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Neda - New Evidence

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In His Name, the Most High

Salaams

How did Neda Agha Soltani really die??

Press TV Report on a Documentary that has examined forensic and video/photographic evidence in the case of Neda Agha Soltan, who was murded by her handlers when she outlived her usefulness. Once she was no longer useful to Arash Hijazi she was murded. She was shot in the back of her head based on actual forensic evidence; Arash Hijazi claims she was shot in her back. Evidence provided. Documentary and Report Challenges the Western Version; with evidence and detailed forensic, video and photographic evidence. Aired on January 5, 2010.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-JgvpyL3co

Just another reason why people shouldn't whole hearted except the garbage and gibberish that is allegedly "factual evidence" from Iran - when it is broadcast by CNN, BBC, and propgated via Twitter and other such avenues that are actually only tools of the Psychological War that is being actively waged against Islamic Iran.

Folks, we need to wise up and wake up; Islamic Iran is something we must defend; not immediately condemn "cuz we saw a message in twitter, or facebook, or cuz the BBC and CNN broadcast it". Sheesh! Subhan Allah folks; we need to get a grip; and realise that there's a full scale psychological war being waged against both Islamic Iran and the Muslims at large; the more of the lies and propoganda of the MKO/Shahi/CIA/Mossad/UK/US/Israeli/Saudi lobby we swallow the further from Allah and from the true Islam of Muhammad(S) we will be. Realise this.

With Salaams and Dua's

Shabbir

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This has got to be a joke. No evidence for the claims in the "documentary" has been provided by this PressTV report. It simply makes the claims and expects you to believe them. This is the most ludicrous example of "reporting" I've seen in a long time.

But coming from PressTV, no one should be surprised. After all, they are the ones who reported that Saudi Shi'as had declared independence from the Kingdom and created a country called the "The Republic of Eastern Arabia", and also made up the false report about there being 27 Iranians in world's top 100 scientists list. PressTV makes FOX News look unbiased. :lol:

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This has got to be a joke. No evidence for the claims in the "documentary" has been provided by this PressTV report. It simply makes the claims and expects you to believe them. This is the most ludicrous example of "reporting" I've seen in a long time.

But coming from PressTV, no one should be surprised. After all, they are the ones who reported that Saudi Shi'as had declared independence from the Kingdom and created a country called the "The Republic of Eastern Arabia",

The newly founded nation, which has received little media coverage, is formed in the eastern areas of Qatif and Al-Hasa, a website close to leading Shi'a cleric Sheikh Nimr Baqir al-Namr reported.

"The decision of the proclamation of the Republic was based on the demands of the people of the region," the website added

PressTV had made it really clear that the story had been obtained froma website close to leading Shi'a cleric Sheikh Nimr Baqir al-Namr, hence responsibility on the authenticity of such news is not theirs.

Here is an interesting article...

To start off, there is what appears to be two different Nedas (photos of two different women supposedly her), and (currently) a question of any independent source identifying Neda as a real person.

Then, Neda was said to have been shot by a member of the Basij, an officially sanctioned vigilante organization.

And yet, as they are not police or military, most Basiji are not permitted to carry firearms except for special requirements and when not in actual combat?

And then, why would they pick out a non-protesting woman, 1km from where the protests were occuring, just stepping out of a car for a few minutes. And, how did anyone even know it was a Basiji, since it was claimed to be from a unseen sniper on an adjacent building. (AND IF IT WAS A BASIJI THAT GOT CAUGHT, AS CLAIMED, THAN QUITE SURPRISING NOBODY RECORDED THAT, WHILST THERE WERE SEVERAL DIFFERENT VIDEOS OF NEDA)

Moving now to the video . . .

For the massive injury she supposedly sustained, a direct bullet shot to the center of her chest, I have to wonder, where is all the blood that would be coming from her torso or her back onto the ground, it should have been everywhere, including the spot where they are trying to give her CPR, all over their hands and her clothing, and a huge pool on the ground. Yet the only pool of blood appears to be at her feet before she falls down.

Then, most curious . . .

Shortly into the video, we see blood coming from her mouth. She is not sputtering it out, or coughing it up, as in an inability to breathe. Rather it appears rapidly and self flowing, and runs down both sides of her mouth, almost exclusively. Her center teeth aren’t even stained.

Shortly thereafter blood appears to pour out her right nostril . . . Looking carefully in the video, it appears that both the mouth and nostril bleed occurs right after a hand is seen pushing up onto or into them.

These flow patterns appear more to be from a blood bladder timed for rupture when the camera was in the correct position. And the nose bleed appears only after what appears to be a rapid slight-of-hand insertion of blood into her nose.

Conveniently, an anonymous doctor was on hand to provide the CPR, and to try to save her life, provide credible medical testimony, then disappear from the scene.

Now I am nitpicking, but this video was supposedly shot with a cellphone videocam. It really seems a bit too high quality for that, more like a DV camcorder.

And then, there is the almost too perfect backstory of Neda, preceding the shooting and in preparation to go to the protests - her supposed repeated prescient commentary about any danger there, was a flippant “Don’t worry. It’s just one bullet and it’s over”, and that “Neda had said that even if she lost her life and got a bullet in her heart, she would carry on”.

Of course, we find out that she was not really political and had no intention of active protesting, only that she was passionate about the honesty of the election process, and wanted to be there to see. Her fiancee said she “studied philosophy, music and tourism, was not political”, i.e. principled, but thoroughly inoffensive.

Then on followup, there is the extreme rapid nature of her burial; no wake, or prefuneral proceedings, no Imam attending, or even pictures/video of that proceeding?

We now hear unsubstantiated reports that the Iranian government has banned any memorials or gatherings in her name, which conveniently explains why there is a dearth of public involvement in her very public death.

I don’t want to bust anyone’s bubble, but there seems to be too many “just right” elements to this story.

To ADD:

Dr Arash Hejazi, a publishing student and medical doctor at Oxford Brookes university, had arrived only two days prior to Neda’s death and left the day after anxious to tell the story to the British media of an innocent woman being shot by a Baseej militiaman – this despite the fact that the Baseej never ever carry firearms outside of military compounds (they use sticks, chains and other household items).

The media has since accepted his testimony uncritically, in particular Times of London correspondent Martin Fletcher, who has been nothing short of an obsessed anti-regime propagandist in the wake of the June election. Indeed, Dr Hejazi changed his story early on – he had initially claimed that the assailant was a rooftop sharpshooter [7], but later said that Neda was shot by a man on a motorcycle [8].

Anyone with even a measure of circumspection would be suspicious of Dr Hejazi’s actions and motives as well as his possible involvement with British intelligence which regularly approaches Iranian students and residents in the UK to serve as informers in Iran. Yet, he is hailed as the “man who heroically tried to save” a bleeding Neda (although there is very little to show for it).

Edited by shiasoldier786

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^ Good stuffs bro!

One thing people in this board do not understand that, PressTv is state funded network. It is owned by Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting. Wikipedia/PressTv I see some posters usually compare PressTv to the so called 'free and independent networks' owned by private companies..like cnn, sky, abc..etc...who are worse than state funded networks and always biased in their reports.

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^ Good stuffs bro!

One thing people in this board do not understand that, PressTv is state funded network. It is owned by Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting. Wikipedia/PressTv I see some posters usually compare PressTv to the so called 'free and independent networks' owned by private companies..like cnn, sky, abc..etc...who are worse than state funded networks and always biased in their reports.

Absolutely no media station is "free and independent", and most certainly not a state-funded network.

By default, the media has to portray an image that its sponsors agree with. If they don't then obviously those companies will pull their sponsorships. Is it right? Meh, its the way its always been - it is simply the way the media industry works - there is not really a point in making a fuss over it. Unless theres some kind of socialist revolution, its the way the media is always going to work.

The danger of a state-run media organization is that it must fulfill the political aims of the government and so its content is single-handedly manipulated by the state and it's agenda, whereas other media outlets sponsored by corporations are still in a sense controlled by 'people'.

It is important to note that absolutely every single totalitarian government in history initiated its first step by shutting down media outlets and/or controlling the press, which holds a lot of implications with regard to Iran.

As for the OP, the video posted is laughable at best. The commentary provides no actual evidence for its cockamamie claims. Instead it attaches mere elaboration of its already dubious claims. I am in fact, more suspicious of the Iranian government after watching that video than I was before it.

Oh, and just for laughs:

http://thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=1657#

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PressTV had made it really clear that the story had been obtained froma website close to leading Shi'a cleric Sheikh Nimr Baqir al-Namr, hence responsibility on the authenticity of such news is not theirs.

Actually, the responsibility still falls completely on PressTV for reporting a completely fabricated story, without bothering to verify any of the claims. There are websites that say that the Earth is flat, and I'm sure PressTV would not report that story in its "news" section. There is a huge difference between a news organization, which PressTV claims to be, and a gossip website. If PressTV chose to report whatever nonsense people claim on the internet, like they did in this case, then it would be nothing more than a gossip website. In fact, the editors at PressTV realized this blunder of theirs shortly after publishing this "news" article, and pulled it completely off their site. If there was nothing objectionable in their reporting this obviously false report, as you seem to think, then there would have been no reason for them to pull this article. But they did. Which just goes to show that even they realized that they had messed up.

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Just another reason why people shouldn't whole hearted except the garbage and gibberish that is allegedly "factual evidence" from Iran - when it is broadcast by CNN, BBC, and propgated via Twitter and other such avenues that are actually only tools of the Psychological War that is being actively waged against Islamic Iran.

But we are supposed to wholeheartedly accept the garbage and gibberish that is allegedly "factual evidence" from PressTV? :unsure: CNN, BBC, all of them are biased and skewed, but PressTV is fair and balanced and doesn't report anything but hard facts? It doesn't have an agenda that makes FOX look like a legitimate news organization with the sole aim of reporting the truth? :huh:

We need PressTV and FOX news because (like them or not) they keep any one news organization from becoming too strong and hold the other guy "accountable." Fair enough. Now can we stop pretending that PressTV is anything other then transparent propaganda that isn't interested in reporting anything but their own absolute truth? For the sake of rationality? Of intelligence?

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Actually, the responsibility still falls completely on PressTV for reporting a completely fabricated story, without bothering to verify any of the claims. There are websites that say that the Earth is flat, and I'm sure PressTV would not report that story in its "news" section. There is a huge difference between a news organization, which PressTV claims to be, and a gossip website. If PressTV chose to report whatever nonsense people claim on the internet, like they did in this case, then it would be nothing more than a gossip website. In fact, the editors at PressTV realized this blunder of theirs shortly after publishing this "news" article, and pulled it completely off their site. If there was nothing objectionable in their reporting this obviously false report, as you seem to think, then there would have been no reason for them to pull this article. But they did. Which just goes to show that even they realized that they had messed up.

Often, when I'm watching the news, be it on BBC or Sky News, there will be a breaking news item that will pop up, and it will say that X news agency (or website) has reported X,Y and Z. They will also go on to mention that the report is yet to be confirmed or verified. Many of these stories later on, turn out to be fake. So, these sorts of things are quite common in the news industry. But ofcourse, once its verified that the report was fake, its taken off immediately. Its the same case with PressTV.

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Often, when I'm watching the news, be it on BBC or Sky News, there will be a breaking news item that will pop up, and it will say that X news agency (or website) has reported X,Y and Z. They will also go on to mention that the report is yet to be confirmed or verified. Many of these stories later on, turn out to be fake. So, these sorts of things are quite common in the news industry. But ofcourse, once its verified that the report was fake, its taken off immediately. Its the same case with PressTV.

"27 of the top 100 scientists are Iranian" is not a breaking news item that later turns out to be false. There is a difference between "Tornado kills 76 people" being inaccurate and a news organization selectively reporting utter bull. Big difference. Look into it, preferably without your IRI blinders on this time.

Not to mention, all this discussion about PressTV is quite irrelevant here, as an independent film maker has produced the documentary, with PressTV just broadcasting it.

So when FOX broadcasts a documentary about how evil Iran is.. that is willfully propagating lies and unbecoming of a legitimate news organization. When PressTV does it.. well it was an INDEPENDENT film maker. :huh: Does the element of "choice" not exist here? Does PressTV feel an obligation to run every documentary produced by an independent film maker? Are you perhaps missing that critical bit where PressTV (for pretty gosh darn obvious reasons) decided to run this particular documentary?

I am not even asking for much, honestly. Just a LITTLE bit of critical thinking.. just a tad.

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PressTV makes FOX News look unbiased. :lol:

Very well said. :D

Criticizing the Iranian government on this forum is like criticizing Bush administration in a neo-con forum.

PressTV is the main source of information here as much as FOX and Newsweek are sources of information in neo-con forums.

I find it hilarious how people's hate, one-sided and bias makes them so much like their worst enemies. :D

I read this section every once in a while for a good chuckle.

This section and its "tough guys," the "real shias," who unquestionably support Iran provide good laughter.

That is all for now.

I must go.

My Mossad/CIA masters are contacting me.

It's time for them to pay me.

:D

.... Hilarious

:D

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"27 of the top 100 scientists are Iranian" is not a breaking news item that later turns out to be false. There is a difference between "Tornado kills 76 people" being inaccurate and a news organization selectively reporting utter bull. Big difference. Look into it, preferably without your IRI blinders on this time.

So when FOX broadcasts a documentary about how evil Iran is.. that is willfully propagating lies and unbecoming of a legitimate news organization. When PressTV does it.. well it was an INDEPENDENT film maker. :huh: Does the element of "choice" not exist here? Does PressTV feel an obligation to run every documentary produced by an independent film maker? Are you perhaps missing that critical bit where PressTV (for pretty gosh darn obvious reasons) decided to run this particular documentary?

I am not even asking for much, honestly. Just a LITTLE bit of critical thinking.. just a tad.

If an American lady had been shot in New York under suspicious circumstances, with many inconsistencies in the story of how she died, not to say, the witness changing accounts of what he saw, from saying that the assasin was on a roof-top, to a motorbike, and fleeing to an enemy state the next day, and if the US Government was being falsely framed for her death, than I say, Fox News would have the full unobjectionable right to show a documentary which examines all the evidences.

I am not even asking for much either, honestly. Just for a while, put back all your hate for the IRI, and think with an unbiased mind about what really may have happened.

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Very well said. :D

Criticizing the Iranian government on this forum is like criticizing Bush administration in a neo-con forum.

PressTV is the main source of information here as much as FOX and Newsweek are sources of information in neo-con forums.

I find it hilarious how people's hate, one-sided and bias makes them so much like their worst enemies. :D

I read this section every once in a while for a good chuckle.

This section and its "tough guys," the "real shias," who unquestionably support Iran provide good laughter.

That is all for now.

I must go.

My Mossad/CIA masters are contacting me.

It's time for them to pay me.

:D

.... Hilarious

:D

I find it quite hillarious as well, that shias on this forum, with every tiny opportunity they have, try to bad-mouth and vilify the Islamic Republic, yet you hardly see them critisize the Zionists or the West for their involevement in many of the problems that the ummah is facing.

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^Shia bro, why don't you ignore these kids!

They want PressTv, a state-funded network to criticize the Iranian government 24/7 just like BBC or CNN to deceive the people of the world in favor a few losers in exile.

PressTv is what it is. And most people on this board prefer to read from PessTv rather to rely on BBC only. If you like it the opposite..you are free to do it.

PressTv, a state funded channel is courageous enough to hire people like the British guy Andrew Gilligan to run the "Forum" and in most of in his discussing concerning Iran, he is no better than those who represent Sky or BBC and he always slams Iranian policies and the government just like an opposition in PressTv studio in London. Do we have anyone in BBC Persian or BBC English to host any program who supports the Ayatollahs in Iran and slams and condemns the British government in his programs...?

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^Shia bro, why don't you ignore these kids!

They want PressTv, a state-funded network to criticize the Iranian government 24/7 just like BBC or CNN to deceive the people of the world in favor a few losers in exile.

PressTv is what it is. And most people on this board prefer to read from PessTv rather to rely on BBC only. If you like it the opposite..you are free to do it.

PressTv, a state funded channel is courageous enough to hire people like the British guy Andrew Gilligan to run the "Forum" and in most of in his discussing concerning Iran, he is no better than those who represent Sky or BBC and he always slams Iranian policies and the government just like an opposition in PressTv studio in London. Do we have anyone in BBC Persian or BBC English to host any program who supports the Ayatollahs in Iran and slams and condemns the British government in his programs...?

:D OK.

...

Sorry my Mossad/CIA masters tell me I should not reply to this post, or my cover will be blown. :D

...

This "loser in exile" always has a good time reading this section.

You guys are awesome. ^_^

Anyways bro.

Take care of yourself

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:D OK.

...

Sorry my Mossad/CIA masters tell me I should not reply to this post, or my cover will be blown. :D

Well, no body claimed that Mossad/CIA is that stupid to hire people like you! :lol: You guys are only good for demonstrations in front of the Iranian embassies across Europe..That is why they kept you on welfare to give you some good free times. ;)

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Well, no body claimed that Mossad/CIA is that stupid to hire people like you! :lol: You guys are only good for demonstrations in front of the Iranian embassies across Europe..That is why they kept you on welfare to give you some good free times. ;)

You know us so well.

Well done to you sir... well done.

Keep up the good work.

:D

Now, if you excuse me, I have to go pick up my welfare cheque to be able to buy more green tops and candles to go sit in front of some embassy.

:D

Anyways.

You may have the last words.

May Allah open the hearts and eyes of good people to see the crimes being done under the name of Islam.

This would be my last post for now.

I'll come back again, or perhaps post here again, when I need a good chuckle.

I hope FOX news has some good informative programs on Iran this evening, as I am so eager to learn more about Iran.

:D

Peace.

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I hope FOX news has some good informative programs on Iran this evening, as I am so eager to learn more about Iran.

:D

Peace.

Well, I read FoxNews everyday. They report good stuffs on outer space programs, slams Leftists, and are patriots. You can ignore the racist branch of it. Always good things to learn from anywhere.. even when you go and chant "Death to Islam" in front of Iranian embassies, you may find good friends or girlfriends in the process. ;) :D

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Often, when I'm watching the news, be it on BBC or Sky News, there will be a breaking news item that will pop up, and it will say that X news agency (or website) has reported X,Y and Z. They will also go on to mention that the report is yet to be confirmed or verified.

First of all, when the BBC or Sky News reports on any unverified or unconfirmed stories, they have the journalistic integrity to actually state that the report is unverified or unconfirmed. PressTV, in that "news" report makes no such disclaimer. It simply states: "The Shia minority in Saudi Arabia has declared independence from the Kingdom, creating a country called the "The Republic of Eastern Arabia"." No mention of this being an unconfirmed report whatsoever.

Secondly, what about the 27 Iranians in the top 100 scientists. Which website did they get this from? What was that, again??? Oh, that's right, they didn't get it from any website. They made it up.

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I find it quite hillarious as well, that shias on this forum, with every tiny opportunity they have, try to bad-mouth and vilify the Islamic Republic, yet you hardly see them critisize the Zionists or the West for their involevement in many of the problems that the ummah is facing.

The fact that you find it hilarious for shias to criticize a country (coupled with your incessant attempts to prove PressTV is a legitimate source of news) is really very telling. I guess the title "Islamic Republic" were supposed to shut me up? That title might be sufficient to keep you complacent, but it most certainly does not cut it for me.

Why should I criticize the West when nearly 95% of this website is already drinking that kool aid? Who is going to hold the "Shias" accountable for their involvement in the problems the ummah is facing?

Edited by Zahratul_Islam

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Why don't you all just put aside the two sides you hold onto so dearly in this political debate and just objectively research the nature of modern media, both state controlled and corporate funded.

You don't really have to be a critic of IRI to be critical and sceptical about reports on Press TV or any other media outlet. Just like you don't have to be anti-British to be sceptical about BBC.

Read some Chomsky folks.

Likewise, you don't have to be a blind lover of IRI to accept those Press TV reports which seem credible.

Its just common sense and a bit of knowledge on how the media work, I can't believe its so black and white, either-or for many of you.

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First of all, when the BBC or Sky News reports on any unverified or unconfirmed stories, they have the journalistic integrity to actually state that the report is unverified or unconfirmed. PressTV, in that "news" report makes no such disclaimer. It simply states: "The Shia minority in Saudi Arabia has declared independence from the Kingdom, creating a country called the "The Republic of Eastern Arabia"." No mention of this being an unconfirmed report whatsoever.

Well... I really don't know how much more clearer you want PressTV to be. The fact that they explicitly mentioned in the report that the news item was obtained from "a website close to leading Shi'a cleric Sheikh Nimr Baqir al-Namr", shows fully, that they acknowledged, and informed the reader, of how biased the source could be.

And cummon, lets not even talk about the BBC. How conveniently did they display photographs during the Iranian election crisis, claiming it to be an anti-government rally, while it was as a matter of fact a photograph from a pro-Ahmadinejad rally.

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Secondly, what about the 27 Iranians in the top 100 scientists. Which website did they get this from? What was that, again??? Oh, that's right, they didn't get it from any website. They made it up.

Isn't deciding who the top 100 scientists are, a matter of opinion?

Even if they wrongfully did claim an organization mentioning so, it has hardly anything to do with the issue being discussed, i.e. if PressTV is the "mouthpiece for the Iranian Government", as some try to imply. Quite amusing that you keep on bringing it up.

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Well... I really don't know how much more clearer you want PressTV to be. The fact that they explicitly mentioned in the report that the news item was obtained from "a website close to leading Shi'a cleric Sheikh Nimr Baqir al-Namr", shows fully, that they acknowledged, and informed the reader, of how biased the source could be.

And cummon, lets not even talk about the BBC. How conveniently did they display photographs during the Iranian election crisis, claiming it to be an anti-government rally, while it was as a matter of fact a photograph from a pro-Ahmadinejad rally.

iran_protest_rally_lie2.jpg

iran_protest_rally_lie1.jpg

Isn't deciding who the top 100 scientists are, a matter of opinion?

Even if they wrongfully did claim an organization mentioning so, it has hardly anything to do with the issue being discussed, i.e. if PressTV is the "mouthpiece for the Iranian Government", as some try to imply. Quite amusing that you keep on bringing it up.

In His Name, the Most High

Salaams

Kudos on your post bro. However, I fear that there are some on this board who will always try and find problems with anything with even the mildest of connections to the true Islam of Muhammad(S), to Islamic Iran and to Wilayat al-Faqih. No matter how clear your explanation and how clear the logic; there are some of these people who just won't hear the truth; even if you take a megaphone and scream down their proverbial ears. Deaf, dumb and blind; and they will not return (Quran).

I mean come on; some of these people go as far as to openly insult Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah(HA) (See: ). Sure their intent is to attempt to insult me (which is fine; no problem; as long as they don't insult the righteous Ulema; I'm happy to take their slurs); but why use the name of Sayyed Hassan(HA) to do it? Why bring him into it? It exposes a hidden hatred and hidden agenda of some of these people.

The problem is that they are deluded. Nothing I say will ever convince "shiasoldier" that the IRI is not God's heaven on earth. Like I said, amusing and yet so very tragic.

Anyway, who cares what I say? According to Shibby (who coincidentally also goes by the name "God") I am going to hell because my head isn't stuck up Nasrallah's backside. How on earth can you expect me to take people this irrational and brainwashed seriously?

They will constantly try and find reasons - no matter how pathetic and lame - to find fault with Islamic iran and Wilayat al-Faqih; this is because there is an illness in them; the same illness that plagued those who partook in the murder of Aba Abdillah(A), his family(A) and companions(A) on Ashura.

If there is the possibility for these people tor reform; we pray that they reform; however; if they are going to be a hinderance and enemies to the true Islam; then we pray that Allah alleviate us from such people.

With Salaams and Dua's

Shabbir

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If there is the possibility for these people tor reform; we pray that they reform; however; if they are going to be a hinderance and enemies to the true Islam; then we pray that Allah alleviate us from such people.

I don't think I will be reforming.. so you better get to praying shibby.

Like I said before, if Allah is taking your hateful, insincere prayers seriously.. I would rather be burning in the deepest pit of hell. The problem with you is that you aren't an overzealous teenager, you are a bully in his 40's or 50's who actually believes I am going to hell because I didn't take the haddith of Imam Nasrallah as divine truth. How am I supposed to be anything but condescending and sarcastic with you?

As for my "secret" agenda.. it isn't all that secret Shibby :huh:

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In His Name, the Most High

Salaams

Kudos on your post bro. However, I fear that there are some on this board who will always try and find problems with anything with even the mildest of connections to the true Islam of Muhammad(S), to Islamic Iran and to Wilayat al-Faqih. No matter how clear your explanation and how clear the logic; there are some of these people who just won't hear the truth; even if you take a megaphone and scream down their proverbial ears. Deaf, dumb and blind; and they will not return (Quran).

I seriously doubt if PRESS TV is a manifestation of true Islam of Muhammad.

They will constantly try and find reasons - no matter how pathetic and lame - to find fault with Islamic iran and Wilayat al-Faqih; this is because there is an illness in them; the same illness that plagued those who partook in the murder of Aba Abdillah(A), his family(A) and companions(A) on Ashura.

Sorry you got it wrong. The murderers of Aba Abdillah[a], his family[a] and companions[a] ≠ critics of "Islamic " Iran and Wilayat al-Faqih.

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Poor lady, she trusted the MKO Mafia....who blackmailed her. : (

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Salaam bro !

by the time i was refferring to her "stree walking" i.e rioter walking on the street, the zionists cyberarmy on this board cried fool ! labelling me as a one without heart...

Today, truth manifests clearly as was the case of zuliqha accusing Yusuf (as) to be a rapist !!!

the zionist cyberarmy on this board will comeout with many other false and fake "cases" to deceive themselve. they don't know that any mumin believer cannot fall so easily in their evil traps. Some are hooligans from UK, some are guine guys from "tal abib" some are Al-CIA spies... all of them united in this rat race !!!

Ma'a Salaam

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Well... I really don't know how much more clearer you want PressTV to be. The fact that they explicitly mentioned in the report that the news item was obtained from "a website close to leading Shi'a cleric Sheikh Nimr Baqir al-Namr", shows fully, that they acknowledged, and informed the reader, of how biased the source could be.

And cummon, lets not even talk about the BBC. How conveniently did they display photographs during the Iranian election crisis, claiming it to be an anti-government rally, while it was as a matter of fact a photograph from a pro-Ahmadinejad rally.

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Isn't deciding who the top 100 scientists are, a matter of opinion?

Even if they wrongfully did claim an organization mentioning so, it has hardly anything to do with the issue being discussed, i.e. if PressTV is the "mouthpiece for the Iranian Government", as some try to imply. Quite amusing that you keep on bringing it up.

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Salaam bro Shiasoldier786 !

Ahsant' for the pics, i will share them on our french forum inch'Allah.

don't bother yourself with some labourers paid by the US senate "VOICE" budget and associates, the synagogue of Satan will never stop attacking the truth, let alone ISLAM of Mohammad (pbuh). I really don't know why you are wasting of your time with these stupid comments from some deranged and disturbed minds from the "CIVILISED WORLD" !!!

Ma'a Salaam

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Well... I really don't know how much more clearer you want PressTV to be.

How about adding that the report is "unverified" or "unconfirmed"? How much harder would it be to include that one extra word in the interest of journalistic integrity?

The fact that they explicitly mentioned in the report that the news item was obtained from "a website close to leading Shi'a cleric Sheikh Nimr Baqir al-Namr", shows fully, that they acknowledged, and informed the reader, of how biased the source could be.

More nonsense. Like I mentioned earlier, there are websites that say that the Earth is flat. You won't see PressTV reporting this as "news", because the job of a news organization is not to parrot false information, it is to investigate the sources and propagate actual news.

And again, you didn't answer my question. If what PressTV did in that "news" report was fine, then what was the need of pulling that article off their website?

The very fact that they had to backtrack and remove that article completely off their site, without any explanation for doing so whatsoever, is clearly enough to show that they knew they had bungled up.

And cummon, lets not even talk about the BBC. How conveniently did they display photographs during the Iranian election crisis, claiming it to be an anti-government rally, while it was as a matter of fact a photograph from a pro-Ahmadinejad rally.

And this is what journalistic integrity is. When it was pointed out that it was the wrong information, they immediately corrected it. This is the correction they issued on that same page: "Update 19 June 2009: an earlier version of our caption was incorrect. We wrongly stated that this was a pro-Mousavi rally when in fact it was a pro-Ahmadinejad rally."

But you don't see PressTV issuing any correction for either of the mentioned "news" reports. Why not?

Isn't deciding who the top 100 scientists are, a matter of opinion?

But claiming that the ISI has named them so is not a matter of opinion.

So, do you see PressTV offering a correction and updating that "news" article???

No, you don't.

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I don't think I will be reforming.. so you better get to praying shibby.

Like I said before, if Allah is taking your hateful, insincere prayers seriously.. I would rather be burning in the deepest pit of hell. The problem with you is that you aren't an overzealous teenager, you are a bully in his 40's or 50's who actually believes I am going to hell because I didn't take the haddith of Imam Nasrallah as divine truth. How am I supposed to be anything but condescending and sarcastic with you?

As for my "secret" agenda.. it isn't all that secret Shibby :huh:

(bismillah)

(salam)

it is a shame that you will keep on insisting with your ignorance

poor adab no doubt now added with poor akhlaq

like muhammad can never be mohd or mo

shabbir can never be shibby or shibs or sho

please don't insist or persist

may Allah(swt) behaqe muhammad (pbuh) and ali muhammad (as) guide you.

(wasalam)

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How about adding that the report is "unverified" or "unconfirmed"? How much harder would it be to include that one extra word in the interest of journalistic integrity?

More nonsense. Like I mentioned earlier, there are websites that say that the Earth is flat. You won't see PressTV reporting this as "news", because the job of a news organization is not to parrot false information, it is to investigate the sources and propagate actual news.

And again, you didn't answer my question. If what PressTV did in that "news" report was fine, then what was the need of pulling that article off their website?

The very fact that they had to backtrack and remove that article completely off their site, without any explanation for doing so whatsoever, is clearly enough to show that they knew they had bungled up.

And this is what journalistic integrity is. When it was pointed out that it was the wrong information, they immediately corrected it. This is the correction they issued on that same page: "Update 19 June 2009: an earlier version of our caption was incorrect. We wrongly stated that this was a pro-Mousavi rally when in fact it was a pro-Ahmadinejad rally."

But you don't see PressTV issuing any correction for either of the mentioned "news" reports. Why not?

But claiming that the ISI has named them so is not a matter of opinion.

So, do you see PressTV offering a correction and updating that "news" article???

No, you don't.

As you seem to be a really big fan of the BBC, heres a good example for you. During the 2006 Hezbollah-Israel conflict, many a times did the BBC cite IDF sources and other zionist websites, which claimed that the Israeli Army had captured certain villages and towns in Southern Lebanon. However, it soon became clear that these were fairy tales and that the Zionists were hardly able to advance a few miles into Lebanon throughout the 33 days.

During that time, I never heard the BBC say, ''oh, we are really sorry for citing the IDF, and the reports we got from them were made up''. This is how the news industry works dude, im sorry, but get real.

Similar to the BBC citing IDF sources, as the IDF was one of the parties involved in that conflict, how different is it to cite a source close to the clerics website during the Saudi crisis?

Regarding the hoax photographs that the BBC published, well DUHHH did they have to spit out their mistakes, because... well, they had ALREADY been exposed. Its not rocket science, nor does it make them more or less ethical. To be frank, what sort of foolish imbeciles have the BBC hired? How hard is it to tell the difference between Ahmadinejad and Mousavi? Do they even look the same a tiny bit for Gods sake!?

Granted, PressTV did cite an inaccurate source on that issue (though they did fully make the reader aware about how biased the source could be), and this happens to all major news organizations. However, what the BBC has been involved in, is mass public deceit, and only true zionist sympathizers would defend them for so. Not to say, you also find Fox News, owned by a self proclaimed zionist, Rupert Murdoch, more impartial than PressTV (as you mentioned in a post above). And as the respected brother Shabbir said, all we can do is do dua and pray for you, and your likes.

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Salaam bro Shiasoldier786 !

Ahsant' for the pics, i will share them on our french forum inch'Allah.

don't bother yourself with some labourers paid by the US senate "VOICE" budget and associates, the synagogue of Satan will never stop attacking the truth, let alone ISLAM of Mohammad (pbuh). I really don't know why you are wasting of your time with these stupid comments from some deranged and disturbed minds from the "CIVILISED WORLD" !!!

Ma'a Salaam

W.salaam! :D

Check out this website as well Bro,

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/june2009/061809_iran_propaganda.htm

Its not the first time that the BBC has been caught deceiting the public.

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During the 2006 Hezbollah-Israel conflict, many a times did the BBC cite IDF sources and other zionist websites, which claimed that the Israeli Army had captured certain villages and towns in Southern Lebanon. However, it soon became clear that these were fairy tales

Reference???

Regarding the hoax photographs that the BBC published, well DUHHH did they have to spit out their mistakes, because... well, they had ALREADY been exposed.

Just like PressTV has "ALREADY been exposed" for their fabrications, but you don't see them "spitting out their mistakes". Like I mentioned, they have no journalistic integrity.

To be frank, what sort of foolish imbeciles have the BBC hired?

The kind that PressTV can only dream to hire.

However, what the BBC has been involved in, is mass public deceit,

Absolutely wrong. BBC corrected it's error. It is PressTV which is engaged in mass public deceit, since it posts fabricated "news" stories, and doesn't even offer corrections.

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