Moharram 2009

[khakay batool]

salam,

waisey tu Moharram har saal hi ata hai aur hum sab aApney pasandeeda Zakir ko sunney kay liyie be-chain rehtey hain. koun kahan padh raha hai? kitna umda padh raha hai? kis kis kay ghar ja raha hai? Alim hai kay sirf khatabat hai? Mujtahid hai kay Ayatullah hai? in sab baton per khoob tabserey rehtey hain. es saal kuch mukhtalif hona chahiyie.

kiyoun na aisa ho kay hum mien sey har ferd har majlis kay baad, aik wo baat share karey jo us kay dil mien utter gaai ho. samajh mien aAgaai ho. ya phir agar kisi baat per ekhtelaf hai tu wo share kiya jaai. zehn mien koi sawal be-daar hova ho tu wo us per behes ki jaai. koi naai riwayat sunni ho tu us per sawal kiya jaai.

filhaal Moharram shoroo nahi hova hai es liyie hamara pehla sawal majlis kay akhri hissey key mutaAlliq hai.

yani ye majlis kay baad "hissa ya tabarruk" kiyoun ban-ta jata hai?

baaz majalis kay baad tu etnay umda khaney ka entezaam hota hai kay lagta hai koi party waghaira ho rahi hai. kiya aAp es say muttafiq hain ya es key khilaaf hain? kiya waqaai aisi dawat kay baghair majlis adhori reh jaaai gee ya sawab kum milay ga?

ws

[shukarAllah]

Slam, apki umda tajweez ko na sarahna zayadati hogi, ap ne buht he umda khayal paish kiya hay... main dil se apky is khayal se mutafiq hon....aur jahan tak majlis se mutaliq apky sawal ka taluq he to main is per itna he keh skta hon k Islam saadgi ki taleem deta hay. Humain saadgi ko he mad-i-nazar rakhna chahiye. Aur agar koi namood-o-numaish se qata-i-nazar achy aur umda khaany paish krta hay to yeh bhe qabil qabool hay. Aur iska majlis k sawab se koi taluq nhi banta...Majlish is liye hoti hay k hum Zikar-e-Ahal-ul-Bait (A.S) se apny diloon ko zinda krain aur apny a'amaal aur kirdaar ko sanwaarain. Allah Pak hum sab per apni rehmat frmaye aur humain apni hifaz-o-amaan main rakhay.Ameen. Was-Slam

[khuram]

yani ye majlis kay baad "hissa ya tabarruk"  kiyoun ban-ta jata hai?

baaz majalis kay baad tu etnay umda khaney ka entezaam hota hai kay lagta hai koi party waghaira ho rahi hai. kiya aAp es say muttafiq hain ya es key khilaaf hain?  kiya waqaai aisi dawat kay baghair majlis adhori reh jaaai gee ya sawab kum milay ga? 

ws

i think its for attracting the public or ye k jo door say aaeay hain unko khany ki fikar na rahay sahi say azadari karain , n imam ke yaad me ki wo to bhukay rahay par unkay zikr ki barkat say beshumar bhukay seraab hotay hain, but obviously it should not look like a party.

[khuram]

salam,

han ye batain apni jaga theek hain,  laikin asl haqdaar(drivers waghaira) aksar aisi mehfilon sey bhokay lota diyie jatain hain.  es barey mie soacha chahiyie. kiya hamarey Maula (as) ney yehi sekhaya hai?

well yahi to khas baat hay es khanay ki k drivers bhi sath he bath kar khatay hain aik dastarkhwaan par ya phir gari may hay daydaytay hain unko.

or jahan tak 28 rajab say 2 moharram tak ki baat hay to es say kia fark parta hay k imam a.s kitnay dino may karbala pohnchay ya harzart qasim a.s ki shadi hue ya nahi ya hazrat ali akbar a.s 18 sal k nahi thay, in baton say na to masaib may kami ya ziadti hoti hay na he karbala k maqsad par koe asar parta hay or na hi hamari mohabbat e ahlulbair alehsalam may fark parta hay or inmay say koe cheez kisi islami asool k khelaf hay. so these things doesnt matter

[khuram]

                                                                                                                                      plz avoid these -ves

[Syed Demanding]

salam,

ferq padhta hai. 28 rajab sey 2 muharram ki tareekhain agar theek nahi hain tu kiya es ka matlab ye nahi hova kay Imam Hussain key safar kay mutaliq tafsilaat ghaaib kr de gaain hain ya ghaaib ho gaain hain??? ye aAm riwayaton ki baat nahi ho rahi hai, tareekh ki baat ho rahi hai.

waisey hum ko khud nahi maloom esi liyie tu sawal kiya hai.

ws

(salam)

Ap Ya Book Zaroor Parhiya Ga,InshAllah Boht Kuch Jan'nay Ko Milay Ga,,

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(wasalam)

[Guest Anam Zehra Haider]

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salam,

waisey tu Moharram har saal hi ata hai aur hum sab aApney pasandeeda Zakir ko sunney kay liyie be-chain rehtey hain. koun kahan padh raha hai? kitna umda padh raha hai? kis kis kay ghar ja raha hai? Alim hai kay sirf khatabat hai? Mujtahid hai kay Ayatullah hai? in sab baton per khoob tabserey rehtey hain. es saal kuch mukhtalif hona chahiyie.

kiyoun na aisa ho kay hum mien sey har ferd har majlis kay baad, aik wo baat share karey jo us kay dil mien utter gaai ho. samajh mien aAgaai ho. ya phir agar kisi baat per ekhtelaf hai tu wo share kiya jaai. zehn mien koi sawal be-daar hova ho tu wo us per behes ki jaai. koi naai riwayat sunni ho tu us per sawal kiya jaai.

filhaal Moharram shoroo nahi hova hai es liyie hamara pehla sawal majlis kay akhri hissey key mutaAlliq hai.

yani ye majlis kay baad "hissa ya tabarruk" kiyoun ban-ta jata hai?

baaz majalis kay baad tu etnay umda khaney ka entezaam hota hai kay lagta hai koi party waghaira ho rahi hai. kiya aAp es say muttafiq hain ya es key khilaaf hain? kiya waqaai aisi dawat kay baghair majlis adhori reh jaaai gee ya sawab kum milay ga?

ws

Wah.

Bibi, mairee baat ka buraa na manayegaa. Hussain (as) to wouh zaat e Paak hain (salawat!) kai jinkai nana kai waseelai sai to yeh kainaat rawaan hai. TO phir aisaa kaisai hosaktaa hai kai HUSSAIN (as) KAI INSANIYAT KI KHAATIR DEE GAEE ITNI BAREE QURBAANI KO HAM UMMAT E MUSLIMA KAI LIYE AIK JEET NA SAMJHAIN?

Tou jab qurbany e KHOON E TAAHIR aik jeet hai to ham iskai badlai RIZK kioon naa baantain? Allah rizk 'ata karta hai HUSSAIN (as) per ronai waloun kou. Hussain (as) per RONA MOMIN KI NAMAAZ O IBADAT HAI. To yeh to Allah ki rehmat ka aik WAZEH saboot hai keh Hussain (as) per ronai waloun ko aur Majlis e Hussain (as) main azaadari karnai waloun ko pait bhar khana milai.

Janab e Syeda e TAHIRA (salawatullah Aleyhaa) nai zindagi bhar PAIT BHAR KHANA NAHEEN KHAYA. To wouh Allah sai kehtee hain kai YA Allah, MERE BACHCHAI PER RONAI WALOUN KO izzat o ehteraam sai nawaazo. Kaheen mere Hussain per RONAI WALAI MAIREE AUR HUSSAIN (as) KI TARHAA takleef o azziyat main naa rahain!

Haan kuchch loug aisai hain jinkai wahan tabarukaat ghar main ikhattai ho kar sarh warh jatai hain. Hain baaz aisai bhi jinko sehat kai hawaalai sai majlis main baanta gaya khana RAAS naheen ata. Ab is main Hussain (as) ki qurbaani ka to koi haath naheen hai na? Baaz to sirf is baat sai hi ultai pair dortai hain keh har saal itna kharcha karna paraigaa aur itni maghaz maari, aur agar khud pakana parh gaya tou..........Allah diloun kai haal behter jaanai, magar main nai yeh TABSIRAY bakhoobi sunnai huai hain. Lougoun ki tabarruk baantnai ki baat aati hai to kamar jhuk jaati hai aur ... IZZAT KA SAWAAL ata hai to karna parta hai. Baaz aisai hain jo andha dhun Ali O Mohommad (as) kai liye laggai rehte hain, zaatti zindagi main bhi aur Imam Bargah kai liye bhi. Allah sab kai amaal dekh raha hai.

Baaz aisai bhi hain jinkou tabarruk ka niwala maut kai munh sai wapis lai aata hai. Usmain JANNAT ki mitti ki khushboo aati hai. Jaisai keh Hussain (as) kai baaz maanai waloun kai jism sai GULAAB ki khushboo ristee hai.

SUBHAN Allah! KIYA SHARF 'ATA KIYA HAI Allah NAI HUSSAIN (as) PER JAAN NISAAR KARNAI WALOUN KOU!

MASHA'Allah.

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i think its for attracting the public or ye k jo door say aaeay hain unko khany ki fikar na rahay sahi say azadari karain , n imam ke yaad me ki wo to bhukay rahay par unkay zikr ki barkat say beshumar bhukay seraab hotay hain, but obviously it should not look like a party.

Naheen, yeh azaadaroun ki sahoolat kai liye kiya jata hai. Magar kuch loug behes kartai hain kai khaali daal chawal houn to kuch qorma biryani sai naheen hat tai. Allah janai kon kiya sochta hai aur kioon.

Edited December 19, 2009 by Anam Zehra Haider

[MOHIB E AHLAYBAIT]

Safar key tareekhon mei ikhtelaaf zaroor hia lekin jis kitab ka app nay zikr kiya woh khod eik controversil kitab hai.

Waisay jahan tak tafseelat ka talloq hai to Karbala kay talooq say bohat see tafislaat hia jo kitabo mei nahi milti. Unmei safar-e-Karbala key tafseelat bhee sahmil hai. Jaha or bhee bohat see aisee rawayatin hai jo shayad baaz loggo ko samjh nahi atti uhi mei eik Janab-e-Aun o Maohammad key age hai (even though is say koie farq nahi parta woh Karbala mei shaheed houay yeh kafi hai.)

Maslan Janab-e-Zainab key age Karbala mei kiya thee phir work your way back to unki shadi kab houie hogi (Hazrat Ali kay aqwal mill jayeingay app ko beti key shadi key age kay barya mei kay kab karni chaiyay) to Janab-e-Zainab key aulad kab houie hogi or karbala mei kiya age hogi, Lekin in bataon say waqait-e-Karbala pay koie asar nahi parta, chahe Aun-o-Mohammad 13-14 saal kay hoon ya phir 25-30 saal kay.

[-SeeKeR-]

iyoun na aisa ho kay hum mien sey har ferd har majlis kay baad, aik wo baat share karey jo us kay dil mien utter gaai ho. samajh mien aAgaai ho. ya phir agar kisi baat per ekhtelaf hai tu wo share kiya jaai. zehn mien koi sawal be-daar hova ho tu wo us per behes ki jaai. koi naai riwayat sunni ho tu us per sawal kiya jaai.

Kuch baatain jo khas meray zehn main reh gayeen woh yeh hain:

aik zakira nay kaha kay jab app ka cell bajta hai to app bechain ho ker uss ko check kernay lagtain hai no matter how busy you are jab kay woh to kisi insan ka hota hai to jab Allah(swt) azan kay zareey bulata hai to app kaisay ignore ya delayed jawab detain hain.

Mahdi modaressi nay aik majlis main kaha: We try and contemplate Imam Hussain(a.s) when we are like a 2-dimensional dot and he a three dimensional figure, so is it even geometrically possible? basically he meant that hum sirf tradition kay teht azadari kertain hain aur maqsad-e Hussain(a.s) ko nahee samjhtay.

Zaki baqri nay bahut umda majlisay pareen... :wub: ...aur Quran ki itni importance batyee that i was truly inspired. Unhon na aik bahut acha point kaha kay ager main hoon to itna majma hai, abb sochain kay Ayt. sistani aa jaeen to kitna ho ga, ager rehber aa jain to kitna ho ga...to just imagine you have Quran which is directly from Allah(swt) but is still gathering dust on shelf.

Aur bhee bahut achi baatin sunnain ko milli per i found these the best.