Engament Ring?

[Guest orbitgum]

Before I begin, let me apologize for posting in this section because I am a guy... but I think this would be the most appropriate section to do it in.

I might be really close to getting engaged to the love of my life (inshallah). But I have some questions... Are engagement rings and wedding rings the same? Do I need to buy two different rings?

And when it comes to diamonds... What is a reasonable price that would satisfy the girl and "her friends" when she shows off the ring. I know its not all about the money or the ring but one of my teachers had told me that if the ring is "cheap" than the girls friends would think your cheap. (Please don't just tell me it depends on how much money I make or have lol)

Thank you.

[Guest orbitgum]

uhmm... girls like diamonds? Why wouldn't you buy her a diamond? It shows you will try to get her anything she wants.... shows you love her....

[Bonafide Hustler]

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Why do you need to buy her a diamond in the first place? Whats the point of buying a the most useless piece of rock that will outlast your own relationship. Well if the diamond prices will quadruple within the next 2 years then thats a diff story.

If I were you, I would grab those shiny diamond rings from the dollar store with a return policy.

Also why are u trying to impress her girlfreinds?? do you want to get with them? STUPID WIFEYS GIRLFREINDS always ruin relationships cuz they cant stop running their damn mouths about the most useless things. You should start ignoring them so they can perhaps move onto discussing bigger and better things... wont happen though.

Edited October 20, 2009 by Bonafide Hustler

[Guest orbitgum]

Take her with you to shop for a ring.

They say its supposed to be worth 2-3 months of your income. You can always upgrade later though, so may as well get something financially appropriate for your circumstances.

Edit: Most diamonds come from slave labor or grossly underpaid and poorly treated people. I'm not sure its halal to support such practices. Better buy a pawn shop or antique shop ring.

Taking her will be a bad idea lol... I don't want her choosing something thats like 50 grand.. or her seeing a 100 grand ring then the one I will get her lol.... I'd rather suprise her lol...

[Bonafide Hustler]

WOAHAHAHHA 3 months of your income on a little piece of rock that your local house spider can use to do dumbbell curls. I DONT GET THE LOGIC HERE, PLEASE EXPLAIN....

[3ashiqat-Al-Batoul]

^ A lot of times the jeweler will ask you what the price range is on the ring you wanna get, and show you all the rings that fit. She can choose from those. And If shes the love of your life and you are about to marry her i don't think you should be embarrassed about her knowing the price range that you are able to afford.

Edited October 20, 2009 by 3ashiqat-Al-Batoul

[Guest orbitgum]

^ A lot of times the jeweler will ask you what the price range is on the ring you wanna get, and show you all the rings that fit. She can choose from those. And If shes the love of your life and you are about to marry her i don't think you should be embarrassed about her knowing the price range that you are able to afford.

your right =] i guess il take her with me to the jewelry store.

[Helen]

Before I begin, let me apologize for posting in this section because I am a guy... but I think this would be the most appropriate section to do it in.

I might be really close to getting engaged to the love of my life (inshallah). But I have some questions... Are engagement rings and wedding rings the same? Do I need to buy two different rings?

And when it comes to diamonds... What is a reasonable price that would satisfy the girl and "her friends" when she shows off the ring. I know its not all about the money or the ring but one of my teachers had told me that if the ring is "cheap" than the girls friends would think your cheap. (Please don't just tell me it depends on how much money I make or have lol)

Thank you.

Congratulations, I wish you the best! Hehe, the friends part you should probably ignore, as for the girl, buy her something nice, the price shouldn't matter (as most diamonds aren't cheap anyway) as long as she likes the ring. But to give you an "about", two of my newly wed friends got diamonds. One, her ring was about 1500 dollars (american), and the other, around 3000 dollars (american), (if I can remember correctly). I won't go on about mine :P

Take her with you to shop for a ring.

They say its supposed to be worth 2-3 months of your income. You can always upgrade later though, so may as well get something financially appropriate for your circumstances.

Edit: Most diamonds come from slave labor or grossly underpaid and poorly treated people. I'm not sure its halal to support such practices. Better buy a pawn shop or antique shop ring.

Taking her to the shop sounds horrible. She's gonna be too shy to choose what she likes, and it's gonna be awkward and uncomfortable. I think he should ask her friend what she likes, and her friend could make her show her some rings she likes, without the soon to be bride knowing anything of what's going on.

WOAHAHAHHA 3 months of your income on a little piece of rock that your local house spider can use to do dumbbell curls. I DONT GET THE LOGIC HERE, PLEASE EXPLAIN....

Diamonds are girls best friends :P

[Irishman]

your right =] i guess il take her with me to the jewelry store.

Maybe best go to the store the previous day, and say you when you will be arriving and to have the tray in a certain price range ready in advance, rather then saying it on the day. Do Muslims wear silver or platinum rings as opposed to gold?

Edited October 20, 2009 by Irishman

[Salaam]

Before I begin, let me apologize for posting in this section because I am a guy... but I think this would be the most appropriate section to do it in.

I might be really close to getting engaged to the love of my life (inshallah). But I have some questions... Are engagement rings and wedding rings the same? Do I need to buy two different rings?

And when it comes to diamonds... What is a reasonable price that would satisfy the girl and "her friends" when she shows off the ring. I know its not all about the money or the ring but one of my teachers had told me that if the ring is "cheap" than the girls friends would think your cheap. (Please don't just tell me it depends on how much money I make or have lol)

Thank you.

An engagement ring has a rock on it, a wedding ring (or band) is just a simple one (like the one in the lord of the rings).

If you ask me it's a bit ridiculous to buy a diamond ring, it's so much hassle, she can't wear it because it's too shiny and she has to walk around in fear of losing it all the time. So just buy her a crystal ring (they're shiny and cost less) and then you can buy her something expensive that's harder to lose!

Edited October 20, 2009 by Salaam

[Irishman]

An engagement ring has a rock on it, a wedding ring (or band) is just a simple one (like the one in the lord of the rings).

If you ask me it's a bit ridiculous to buy a diamond ring, it's so much hassle, she can't wear it because it's too shiny and she has to walk around in fear of losing it all the time. So just buy her a crystal ring (they're shiny and cost less) and then you can buy her something expensive that's harder to lose!

Like a Humvee? LOL

[Guest orbitgum]

Like a Humvee? LOL

lol i was thinking "what a car" then i read this post lol.

Honestly, I will probably get married in 2-3 years. I just want to get engaged now. But I want to buy a diamond ring. Something around $5,000. The girl isnt materialistic. But... I will feel better about my self if I get a more expensive ring... And the value of it will always remain. Why not? She is going to be my wife right (inshallah) I want to treat her like the princess she is =]. I for one don't care much for money. As long as theirs enough to sustain a nice living in an apartment and enough to pay for rent and food and bills.

But do you buy her the ring when your about to get married or when your engaged?

And thank you all for replying. =]

[Irishman]

lol i was thinking "what a car" then i read this post lol.

Honestly, I will probably get married in 2-3 years. I just want to get engaged now. But I want to buy a diamond ring. Something around $5,000. The girl isnt materialistic. But... I will feel better about my self if I get a more expensive ring... And the value of it will always remain. Why not? She is going to be my wife right (inshallah) I want to treat her like the princess she is =]. I for one don't care much for money. As long as theirs enough to sustain a nice living in an apartment and enough to pay for rent and food and bills.

But do you buy her the ring when your about to get married or when your engaged?

And thank you all for replying. =]

Also phone you home insurance provider and see can the ring be insured, even if its lost or stolen outside the house, some policies do cover this.

As for when to buy it, I dont know the Shia traditions on this, but for Catholics/Christians, you normally give her the engagement ring when you ask her to marry you, and then the wedding ring at the wedding itself.

[Jawhara]

Okay..this is from a girl's point of view who has undergone a similar experience..

- Firstly- what is the point of diamonds if they have no resale value?? (they don't)..I really don't see the point

-Secondly..if you go to a real top jeweller like in Dubai or wherever you're at- where you can get your rings custom made, then you could try getting a 'diamond cut' zircon. I have that. Nobody can tell its not a diamond (not that I care) and it looks better than a real diamond because diamonds are sooo expensive- that getting a small one is all people can afford- and it looks kinda bleah. Where as you can get a lovely big diamond cut zircon which is like three times less the price and nobody can tell :P

I mean, my ring was custom made and extremely well done (it was copied off a real diamond ring) and when I once walked into a jewellery shop in Dubai, the guy was swearing that it was a diamond - and nothing else- and asked all his other jeweller friends too!!- until I had to let him take it and check it out on that weird diamond checking machine of his- bear in mind usually jewellers can automatically tell if its a diamond or not.

So yeah..I even had some girls gather around me after i got engaged and they asked me if it was a diamond. When I said it isn't the response i got was 'of course it is, silly'

Honestly, unless you can afford a crazy expensive ring, DON'T get a diamond. They're so useless I don't even see the hype about them. My husband asked me if I wanted a diamond- and I went and got this ring done myself.

My ring was about £100 whereas a diamond ring of that size would be like £300 or something..( I haven't checked prices for two years)

And I wouldn't take her to choose her ring if you have a real big price restraint..its just embarrassing. Sure ask her about the design she'd like- make sure you do that!! but unless you have a nice fat budget, don't take her with you :P

..and remember..the price of rings doesn't determine the happiness of a marriage. Don't ever get something cheap looking though!!

Good luck and congratulations on your engagement :)

Edited October 20, 2009 by Jawhara

[3ashiqat-Al-Batoul]

There's no "shia" tradition regarding rings, there is more cultural traditions. For example, in Lebanon when two are getting engaged some will get the diamond ring "for show" AND the round wedding ring at the same time, as both of them signify engagement but it depends on the finger that you have it on. Others will just buy the round one, no diamond, and they wear it on the engagement finger and when married switch to the other.

In Canada however, Lebs that get engaged get diamonds for the period of their engagement and then when they get married they switch to the other at their ceremony, like irishman said.

So you can choose to do whatever you want really.

[3ashiqat-Al-Batoul]

Okay..this is from a girl's point of view who has undergone a similar experience..

- Firstly- what is the point of diamonds if they have no resale value?? (they don't)..I really don't see the point

-Secondly..if you go to a real top jeweller like in Dubai or wherever you're at- where you can get your rings custom made, then you could try getting a 'diamond cut' zircon. I have that. Nobody can tell its not a diamond (not that I care) and it looks better than a real diamond because diamonds are sooo expensive- that getting a small one is all people can afford- and it looks kinda bleah. Where as you can get a lovely big diamond cut zircon which is like three times less the price and nobody can tell :P

I mean, my ring was custom made and extremely well done (it was copied off a real diamond ring) and when I once walked into a jewellery shop in Dubai, the guy was swearing that it was a diamond - and nothing else- and asked all his other jeweller friends too!!- until I had to let him take it and check it out on that weird diamond checking machine of his- bear in mind usually jewellers can automatically tell if its a diamond or not.

So yeah..I even had some girls gather around me after i got engaged and they asked me if it was a diamond. When I said it isn't the response i got was 'of course it is, silly'

Honestly, unless you can afford a crazy expensive ring, DON'T get a diamond. They're so useless I don't even see the hype about them. My husband asked me if I wanted a diamond- and I went and got this ring done myself.

My ring was about £100 whereas a diamond ring of that size would be like £300 or something..( I haven't checked prices for two years)

And I wouldn't take her to choose her ring if you have a real big price restraint..its just embarrassing. Sure ask her about the design she'd like- make sure you do that!! but unless you have a nice fat budget, don't take her with you :P

..and remember..the price of rings doesn't determine the happiness of a marriage. Don't ever get something cheap looking though!!

Good luck and congratulations on your engagement :)

I very much disagree with what you just said. These two are getting engaged, going to get married and spend the rest of their lives together, they're in love and probably best friends. If they are this close they are also most likely very open about everything with each other, money included. His future wife should know how much money he has so she can prepare herself for that lifestyle. She shouldn't be deceived into thinking he has so much money that he can spend on a simple ring, so he must be very rich.

He can do what irishman said and go a day in advance and have the rings ready, without a price being named, but to deceive her into taking her if he wants to get a super expensive ring (which means he has a lot of money) or not take her at all for fear that she will find out just how much money he has is wrong.

And I'm sure he agrees with me here since it appears they have an open and honest relationship.

[Irishman]

I very much disagree with what you just said. These two are getting engaged, going to get married and spend the rest of their lives together, they're in love and probably best friends. If they are this close they are also most likely very open about everything with each other, money included. His future wife should know how much money he has so she can prepare herself for that lifestyle. She shouldn't be deceived into thinking he has so much money that he can spend on a simple ring, so he must be very rich.

He can do what irishman said and go a day in advance and have the rings ready, without a price being named, but to deceive her into taking her if he wants to get a super expensive ring (which means he has a lot of money) or not take her at all for fear that she will find out just how much money he has is wrong.

And I'm sure he agrees with me here since it appears they have an open and honest relationship.

Yeah, have a tray of rings ready in the price range that is ok for you, and no prices on display on the tray, that way the girl is free to pick the ring she likes, otherwise she might be frightened to pick the ring she likes if its the most expensive, in case it makes her look like a gold digger or materialistic etc...

[BintAlHoda]

i am sure some girls think about price when it comes to rings.... but i think a lot of girls really care more about what is pretty and looks good on them, what is going to match their outfits and other jewelery, etc. sometimes the most expensive ring is not the best choice, it might not be her style or might even look ugly. more expensive is not always better.

since she is going to have to wear it 4ever, u should go shopping together and have her try them on and see which one she likes... girls are really good with this jewelry stuff.... and have an upper limit for the price of course. u should be able to be open about this stuff - after all, u will have to deal with finances throughout ur life.

if she is the type who is shy to ask for something expensive (even though she or her family might expect it), u don't have to buy it that day.... just figure out which one she likes, what her finger size is, and u can buy it later and surprise her.

this is so much fun!!!!!!

congratulations too :) :) :) :) :)

[Calm]

Do Muslims wear silver or platinum rings as opposed to gold?

Men are not allowed to wear gold, they can however wear silver or platinum. Women have the choice, they can wear whatever they want however in our culture(Arabic culture as I'm not sure about other cultures) the ring must be gold whether white gold or yellow gold or mix. Then when we lived in the West for so long our culture changed a bit regarding wedding rings, now its a must for the ring to be a diamond ring, a golden-diamond ring.

As for when to buy it, I dont know the Shia traditions on this, but for Catholics/Christians, you normally give her the engagement ring when you ask her to marry you, and then the wedding ring at the wedding itself.

Again it's all cultural nothing related to religion instructions: The engagement ring is given when the man's family visit the soon to be bride's family to make it public that this girl is the fiancée of this man (we call it Nishaan). Then the wedding ring is given on the engagement ceremony (when they become Islamically married to each other,when the verse of marriage has been recited by the scholar-- usually it happens from few months to -sometimes- a year or two before the actual wedding)on that same day the bride is given her dowry(usually a large amount of money and gold). On the actual wedding day ,during the wedding, the groom gives the bride a full set of gold(could be with diamond or without), it includes ear rings,necklace,bracelet and ring. It's called "Shabkah".

Yes, the groom in our culture spends a lot of money on these traditions however none of these things are religion related, in fact religion encourages women to ask very little for her dowry. We have Hadiths(saying of the Prophet and Imams) saying the better the woman is the least her dowry is. Unfortunately in our culture, people do not follow these Hadiths, for them the higher(more expensive)the bride's dowry is the more dignity and value she has. I disagree with this type of thinking of course, but alas! who am I to change an entire culture.

Edited October 20, 2009 by Calm

[Bonafide Hustler]

So no self righteous sister can step up and explain to me the logic of wasting 3 months of your income on the most useless piece of rock............

[3ashiqat-Al-Batoul]

^ there is no logic. Im wearing cubic zirconium till next summer when im gonna wear my "wedding" ring, rather than the engagement =)

[Helen]

Maybe best go to the store the previous day, and say you when you will be arriving and to have the tray in a certain price range ready in advance, rather then saying it on the day. Do Muslims wear silver or platinum rings as opposed to gold?

Yes, that sounds like very good advice. I think it differs from people to people, but since men can't wear gold, they usually get platinum.

I dont either

Actually is not horrible, it not like it a suprise inst it? They both know they gonna get engage/marry right? My friend got engage not long ago and her fiance ask her hand, when her and her father agree, they went to the jelwery stores and shop for a ring togerther. Me and my friends rather choose our own rings cause we are the ones who will wear it everydays. We want to choose the ring we are confortable with and like it. A ring is not only how it look by itshelf, it also how it look on the girl hand, how confortable it is, how suitable is it with her life style. Like a big diamond ring is not suitable for a nurse.

If the girl just take a ring just to show off to her friends but inst suitable for her, she wont wear it after a while. Inst that a waste? One of my friend choose a gold ring that cost 300$ and she still happy with it. My other friend choose a gold ring with subtle diamonds on it which cost 700$, and it not even an engagement ring, she just wanted one ring. My other friend, choose an engagement ring and a marriage ring, at first she wear it both but since then she wear it only the marriage one cuz she find the diamond of the engagement ring annoying....

Yes sometime girls is shy to said honestly which ring they like best, but the guy should allways remind them that it a marriage ring, she should choose the one she like best aand she more confortable with that she wont mind wearing it everydays for their whole life togerther. That he want her to choose and be honest.

He can also just ask them not to said the prices of the rings, and that she can honestly just try on the rings and choose the ones she like best without knowing how much it cost. Muslim women can wear gold, but muslim mens cannot. They wear silver or platinum rings.

Hehe, I don't know. Maybe some girls don't mind getting it with their husband to be.

lol i was thinking "what a car" then i read this post lol.

Honestly, I will probably get married in 2-3 years. I just want to get engaged now. But I want to buy a diamond ring. Something around $5,000. The girl isnt materialistic. But... I will feel better about my self if I get a more expensive ring... And the value of it will always remain. Why not? She is going to be my wife right (inshallah) I want to treat her like the princess she is =]. I for one don't care much for money. As long as theirs enough to sustain a nice living in an apartment and enough to pay for rent and food and bills.

But do you buy her the ring when your about to get married or when your engaged?

And thank you all for replying. =]

That's the spirit, not caring about money when you're spending it on loved ones! Whether it loses it's monetary value in some years, it doesn't even matter. I doubt anyone would want to sell their engagement/wedding ring anyway. It's a beautiful reminder of that sweet day.

To answer your question, I think it differs from country to country. Some buy a diamond ring for engagement, and that's that. Others buy a gold ring, and then later, for the wedding, get a diamond ring.

Okay..this is from a girl's point of view who has undergone a similar experience..

- Firstly- what is the point of diamonds if they have no resale value?? (they don't)..I really don't see the point

-Secondly..if you go to a real top jeweller like in Dubai or wherever you're at- where you can get your rings custom made, then you could try getting a 'diamond cut' zircon. I have that. Nobody can tell its not a diamond (not that I care) and it looks better than a real diamond because diamonds are sooo expensive- that getting a small one is all people can afford- and it looks kinda bleah. Where as you can get a lovely big diamond cut zircon which is like three times less the price and nobody can tell :P

I mean, my ring was custom made and extremely well done (it was copied off a real diamond ring) and when I once walked into a jewellery shop in Dubai, the guy was swearing that it was a diamond - and nothing else- and asked all his other jeweller friends too!!- until I had to let him take it and check it out on that weird diamond checking machine of his- bear in mind usually jewellers can automatically tell if its a diamond or not.

So yeah..I even had some girls gather around me after i got engaged and they asked me if it was a diamond. When I said it isn't the response i got was 'of course it is, silly'

Honestly, unless you can afford a crazy expensive ring, DON'T get a diamond. They're so useless I don't even see the hype about them. My husband asked me if I wanted a diamond- and I went and got this ring done myself.

My ring was about £100 whereas a diamond ring of that size would be like £300 or something..( I haven't checked prices for two years)

And I wouldn't take her to choose her ring if you have a real big price restraint..its just embarrassing. Sure ask her about the design she'd like- make sure you do that!! but unless you have a nice fat budget, don't take her with you :P

..and remember..the price of rings doesn't determine the happiness of a marriage. Don't ever get something cheap looking though!!

Good luck and congratulations on your engagement :)

Why would you want to sell it? I don't understand why they're useless? Just because it's something expensive that can't be sold? To me, I'd rather get a small diamond, than a big diamond-look alike-zircon ring. It doesn't matter how huge that zircon could be, and how many people would think it's a diamond. I'm not about impressing people (sorry, not implying you are, don't take it the wrong way), but I want a diamond for me. Lol, I don't know how to explain it, as much as I try to, it still sounds materialistic.

Yeah, have a tray of rings ready in the price range that is ok for you, and no prices on display on the tray, that way the girl is free to pick the ring she likes, otherwise she might be frightened to pick the ring she likes if its the most expensive, in case it makes her look like a gold digger or materialistic etc...

Yes, I agree.

i am sure some girls think about price when it comes to rings.... but i think a lot of girls really care more about what is pretty and looks good on them, what is going to match their outfits and other jewelery, etc. sometimes the most expensive ring is not the best choice, it might not be her style or might even look ugly. more expensive is not always better.

since she is going to have to wear it 4ever, u should go shopping together and have her try them on and see which one she likes... girls are really good with this jewelry stuff.... and have an upper limit for the price of course. u should be able to be open about this stuff - after all, u will have to deal with finances throughout ur life.

if she is the type who is shy to ask for something expensive (even though she or her family might expect it), u don't have to buy it that day.... just figure out which one she likes, what her finger size is, and u can buy it later and surprise her.

this is so much fun!!!!!!

congratulations too :) :) :) :) :)

Yes good advice. I agree.

So no self righteous sister can step up and explain to me the logic of wasting 3 months of your income on the most useless piece of rock............

It's not useless. You're putting a smile on her face, and giving her something she most probably will cherish till death. If it's something the person you love, really wants, how is it useless. If you can afford it, she deserves it. Even if. to you, there's no logic behind it.

[keys2paradise]

But I want to buy a diamond ring. Something around $5,000.

My goodness, you really must be smitten ^_^ The only benefit I can see of having an expensive ring is that you can sell it if times get tough :D

Whilst I liked the idea of a ring to signify I am "spoken for" I had no interest in actually going to pick one my self. Niether did my husband :lol: So his parents did...worked for both of us :D

You should ask her what her preferences are, does she want to shop with you or is she happy to let you make a choice. Perhaps show her some rings online, or in a magazine to get an idea for the style and prices she goes for.

Congratulations by the way!

[Bonafide Hustler]

It's not useless. You're putting a smile on her face, and giving her something she most probably will cherish till death. If it's something the person you love, really wants, how is it useless. If you can afford it, she deserves it. Even if. to you, there's no logic behind it.

No she doesn't deserve it, and as you said, there is no logic behind this. You can buy her a gazillion others thing that would show more affection/love. What a stupid way to show you love your significant other because you cant find other more practical ways of doing the same thing. Also women are extremely stupid to start judging a man not willing to waste funds on such rocks.

Also giving the incredibly high divorce rate amongst Muslim couples in the west. That rock is not something she will cherish forever, instead for 30% of the women, itll haunt them through the rest of their lives after separation.

"Divorce is on the rise in the Muslim community, especially in the West. According to a study conducted by Dr. Ilyas Ba-Yunus, a sociology professor at State University of New York, the overall divorce rate among Muslims in North America is at an astounding 31%. The state of California ranks highest with a 37% rate of divorce and New York, Ontario, and Texas follow closely with a 30% rate. Compared to the overall rate of divorce in the U.S. (49%) and Canada (45%), the increasing rate of divorce among Muslims is cause for alarm."

http://jannah.org/ha...topic=15.0;wap2

So again.. can someone here logically explain the merit of such useless senseless wastage of funds??? bahaha

Also please provide concrete evidence to support your point of view. Weird MUST embark on paths to female gratification do not apply here.

Edited October 20, 2009 by Bonafide Hustler

[3ashiqat-Al-Batoul]

Just like somebody can take an object and make it very meaningful, somebody can take a different object and attach the same meanings to it, and cherish it the same way. A cheap necklace that your mother passed down to you may be a lot more meaningful then a 5000 dollar necklace you bought for yourself.

Having said that, an engagement ring is to signify that you are taken. It is not to show off to your friends how rich your husband is. If you want a real diamond so badly and can't think of any non materialistic reasons then, most probably, the reason IS materialistic, and you need to work on that aspect of your personality.

In our culture the man buying a set of gold for his fiance/wife is very important, and they can range from 1000 all together at minimum, to as high as you can go. My fiance wanted to spend quite a lot on it, because he was able to (financially) so why not? But i would rather not get gold at all, i don't like jewelery that much and will never wear it, so i chose for him to get the cheapest he could and then the rest on something i will actually benefit from, university.

Anyhow, everybody has different opinions about what is important :)

Edited October 20, 2009 by 3ashiqat-Al-Batoul

[_jen_]

If your gonna buy her an expensive ENGAGEMENT ring....boy she has gonna have high expectations for the wedding, aniversaries, birthdays and valentines days!! bare that in mind

[Guest orbitgum]

If your gonna buy her an expensive ENGAGEMENT ring....boy she has gonna have high expectations for the wedding, aniversaries, birthdays and valentines days!! bare that in mind

Her birthday is a week before valentines day and my birthday is at the end of February lol... that month is gunna get expensive on us for gifts lol.

Okay..this is from a girl's point of view who has undergone a similar experience..

- Firstly- what is the point of diamonds if they have no resale value?? (they don't)..I really don't see the point

-Secondly..if you go to a real top jeweller like in Dubai or wherever you're at- where you can get your rings custom made, then you could try getting a 'diamond cut' zircon. I have that. Nobody can tell its not a diamond (not that I care) and it looks better than a real diamond because diamonds are sooo expensive- that getting a small one is all people can afford- and it looks kinda bleah. Where as you can get a lovely big diamond cut zircon which is like three times less the price and nobody can tell :P

I mean, my ring was custom made and extremely well done (it was copied off a real diamond ring) and when I once walked into a jewellery shop in Dubai, the guy was swearing that it was a diamond - and nothing else- and asked all his other jeweller friends too!!- until I had to let him take it and check it out on that weird diamond checking machine of his- bear in mind usually jewellers can automatically tell if its a diamond or not.

So yeah..I even had some girls gather around me after i got engaged and they asked me if it was a diamond. When I said it isn't the response i got was 'of course it is, silly'

Honestly, unless you can afford a crazy expensive ring, DON'T get a diamond. They're so useless I don't even see the hype about them. My husband asked me if I wanted a diamond- and I went and got this ring done myself.

My ring was about £100 whereas a diamond ring of that size would be like £300 or something..( I haven't checked prices for two years)

And I wouldn't take her to choose her ring if you have a real big price restraint..its just embarrassing. Sure ask her about the design she'd like- make sure you do that!! but unless you have a nice fat budget, don't take her with you :P

..and remember..the price of rings doesn't determine the happiness of a marriage. Don't ever get something cheap looking though!!

Good luck and congratulations on your engagement :)

Well I want to spend minimum $3000(£ 2000) on a ring. I think that's decent on a diamond. I shouldn't be embarrassed about that. And I can always upgrade the diamond in the future when I become older and have more money.

Btw, everyone thank you for all your replies. A lot of you are congratulating me but I am not engaged yet =[. My parents agreed to the girl. The girl agrees to me. But I haven't even asked her parents yet... Inshallah I will do that this weekend or next weekend.

[Bonafide Hustler]

2000 POUNDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT IN THE SWINE FLU FLOODED HELL

Edited October 20, 2009 by Bonafide Hustler

[Guest orbitgum]

2000 POUNDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT IN THE SWINE FLU FLOODED HELL

thats only 3,278 U.S. dollars. not thaaat much...

[Bonafide Hustler]

Are you out of your mind son???????????

[Guest orbitgum]

Are you out of your mind son???????????

only the best for my angel =]

[Bonafide Hustler]

only the best for my angel =]

Whatever you say cheesecake, I see you are already fully whipped so it dont matter.

[Guest orbitgum]

Whatever you say cheesecake, I see you are already fully whipped so it dont matter.

now u sound like my best friend :dry: .... hate when people say im "whipped".... :mad:

[3ashiqat-Al-Batoul]

^ and the immature insults begin. If you don't agree with it, don't do it, but mind your own business :)

Edited October 20, 2009 by 3ashiqat-Al-Batoul

[Guest orbitgum]

How about buying a diamond from walmart? I think they offer the same quality diamonds for thousands less... Anyone know anything from Walmart diamonds? I WOULD NEVER TAKE HER TO WALMART TO CHOOSE A DIAMOND, but I won't mind buying one form them and wrapping it up and giving it to her... she will never know lol.