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hamari mustanad kitabon me mutta ka bohat clear ahkamat milte han or baz books me jese haq ul yaqeen or shafi jese books me yahan tuk likha ha k mutta kerne wala hazrat ali or hazrat muhammad SAW jesa maqam pai ga to phir hamare yahan is topic per bat kerna bhi zaroori nahi samjha jata or koi baap apni beti or koi bhai apni bhan k liye mutta ko pasaand nahi kerta .to phir sunnion ka ye kehna sahi ha k mutta ik fahsh amal ha jis ko shia mazhab halal kehta ha or agar halal kehta ha to phir apni mao behno k liye khule dil se qabool kiun nahi kerta

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hamari mustanad kitabon me mutta ka bohat clear ahkamat milte han or baz books me jese haq ul yaqeen or shafi jese books me yahan tuk likha ha k mutta kerne wala hazrat ali or hazrat muhammad SAW jesa maqam pai ga to phir hamare yahan is topic per bat kerna bhi zaroori nahi samjha jata or koi baap apni beti or koi bhai apni bhan k liye mutta ko pasaand nahi kerta .to phir sunnion ka ye kehna sahi ha k mutta ik fahsh amal ha jis ko shia mazhab halal kehta ha or agar halal kehta ha to phir apni mao behno k liye khule dil se qabool kiun nahi kerta

is topic par pehaly baat hochuki hey dost AUR rahi baat jo aap keh rahey hein tu yeh tu suna hi hoga "kitab dost bhi hey aur dushman bhi"...Achi kitab achayi sikhaye gi ,buri kitaab gumrah karey gi.Kitaab tu shayed buri na hou kiyun key jis ney likhi hogi us ko woh baatein sahi lagti hoongi tu (smajhney waley par munhasir hey)

aur agr waaqiyan mein aap ko woh janana hey jo sach hey aur jo sahi hey tu issi topic sey related mein ney kayi jaga baat ki hey,aap is topic sey related forums ko khool kar check karein and dekhein key mein ney kiya baat ki hey aur baaqi sab key kiya nazriye hein.

is urdu forum par tu nahin,liken baaqi dosrey forums jahan yeh baat hoti hey

Is key ilawa agr aap quran bhut zouq-o-shauq sey parhtey hein aur us ki ayaton ko sirf parhtey hi nahin smajhney ki bhi kooshish kartey hein tu Quran sey behtar koi kitab nahin.

InshaAllah,aap ko apney is sawal ka jawab wahan mil jaye ga.

Saath saath duaon ko bhi jariye rakhiye ga

Waisey aap key sawal mein hi aap ka jawab maujood hey,alhamdulillah

Bus aap ko samjhney ki zaroorat hey. :angel:

Jazakallah kheir

Allah sab ko hidayat dey

Edited by asher

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Islam aur muslaman mei bohat bara farq hai.. Kissi nay kaha tha kay islam duniya ka behtreen mazhab hai or musalman badtareen follower. Yaha bhee wohee masla hai.. kiyonkay log isko passand nahi kartay ya upni maoo behno kay liyay yeh lafz sunna bhee nahi passand kartay, issay jaiz ya najiaz hona bilkol sabit nahi hota.

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kiyonkay log isko passand nahi kartay ya upni maoo behno kay liyay yeh lafz sunna bhee nahi passand kartay, issay jaiz ya najiaz hona bilkol sabit nahi hota.

Dost faraqh hota hey.Zara samajh kar tu dekho.Bhut bara faraq dikhey ga.

Quran ko dil sey parh kar tu dekho asr hoga(InshaAllah)

us ki ayaton ko tu samajh kar dekho rooshni hogi.(InshaAllah)

Allah sey muhabbat kar key tu dekho dil ka sukoon miley ga

Us sey dua maang kar tu dekho dil sey,us sey hidayat maang kar tu dekho...Us sey woh ilm maang kar tu dekho jo nafa dey ..

us sey woh rasta mango jo seedha hou,woh cheez jis mein us ki raza hou...

Faraq dikhey ga....

Zaroor dikhey ga..(inshaAllah)

Quran humein sikhata hey...aksar aakhri ayaton mein aap ney suna hoga...

'in ayaton mein gour-o-fikr karney walon key liye nishaniyan hein'

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i m sorry me galat jaga per agayi hoon me kai sunni or wahabhi forums pe jati hoon muje afsoos ha k itne nonserious or la ilm log un me nahi wahan bhi youngsters mojood han lakin jin baton me ap log uljhe hoe han wo log nahi

muje apne shia hone pe dukh horaha ha khas ker khak e batool ki baten sun ker jin ko naam ka bhi ahtaram nahi

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hamari mustanad kitabon me mutta ka bohat clear ahkamat milte han or baz books me jese haq ul yaqeen or shafi jese books me yahan tuk likha ha k mutta kerne wala hazrat ali or hazrat muhammad SAW jesa maqam pai ga to phir hamare yahan is topic per bat kerna bhi zaroori nahi samjha jata or koi baap apni beti or koi bhai apni bhan k liye mutta ko pasaand nahi kerta .to phir sunnion ka ye kehna sahi ha k mutta ik fahsh amal ha jis ko shia mazhab halal kehta ha or agar halal kehta ha to phir apni mao behno k liye khule dil se qabool kiun nahi kerta

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Loag Fake Profiles Sa Aa Kar Jo Kahain Gay Hum Maan Lan Gay?

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Ya Uski Baat Ka Jawaab Dan Gay?

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Behrhaal Jo Ap Na Farmaya Ka Muttah Karnay Walay Nabi Or Imam Jasa Ha,Hairta Ha Mujhay

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Ap Khud Ko Shia Kah Rahy Han,Mujhay Koi Sahih Riwayat Dikha Dan To Maan Jaon Apko,It's

.

My Challenge To You,

....

muje apne shia hone pe dukh horaha ha

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Ya Baat Kahnay Wala Kuch Bhe Ho Sakta Ha Mgar Shia Nahy,

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Behrhaal Muttah ik Sahulat Ha,Sahaaba Na Bhe Muttah Kiya,Ya ik Temporary Nikah Ha,Jis

Main 2 Loag ik Tay Shuda Arsa Tak ik Dosray Ka Sath Rahtay Han,Or Muddat Khatam Honay

Par Woh ik Dosray Sa Alag Ho Jatay Han Or Mehram Nahy Rahtay,

..

Wasalam

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salam,

ye sab Fiqhi,Sharaai masaail hain.

yahan yani Urdu Sub Forum mien aap ko, dil o jigar ko tapanay walay raqeeb, ishq mien roosva, mohabbat mien andhay, piyar mien pagal, es per lattoo, us per wari, sab mil jaain gain, laikin aAp kay sawal ka jawab nahi mil paai ga.

LMAO.

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Itna hangama kiss baat pay ho raha hia... eik cheez jaiz hai to jaiz hai.. agar samjh nahi atta kiyo jaiz hai to upnay app say larain.. SC pay nahi.. or agar yeh gilla hai kay log isko jaiz kiyo nahimantay to loggo key sooch pay aitraaz karein shia mazhab pay nahi... and yes.. chahee koiee kuch kahey.. mei gunnahgar banda hoon lekin is baat pay fakhar hai kay shia hoon.

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syed _demanding me ap ko kal tuk wo sare references dikha doon gi jis me ye kaha gaya ha k mutta kerne wala imam or nabi k derja per ajata ha ,isi ko perh ker to khud per afsoos hoa to apne shia behn bhaion me akar apne dil ka gubar nikal diya ,meri to sirf itni khawahish ha k kash ye mutta jesi manhoos cheez hamare mazhab e shia se nikal di jai kiun k muje gair muslimo or gair shion ko is hawale se face krte hoe barii sharam ati ha

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OHHHH PLZZZZZZZZZZ...BEFORE ANYBODY REPLIES IN HERE......PLEASE CHK OUT THE INTENTIONS OF THE TOPIC STARTER:

hamari mustanad kitabon me mutta ka bohat clear ahkamat milte han or baz books me jese haq ul yaqeen or shafi jese books me yahan tuk likha ha k mutta kerne wala hazrat ali or hazrat muhammad SAW jesa maqam pai ga to phir hamare yahan is topic per bat kerna bhi zaroori nahi samjha jata or koi baap apni beti or koi bhai apni bhan k liye mutta ko pasaand nahi kerta .to phir sunnion ka ye kehna sahi ha k mutta ik fahsh amal ha jis ko shia mazhab halal kehta ha or agar halal kehta ha to phir apni mao behno k liye khule dil se qabool kiun nahi kerta

yeh alfaaz koyee shia apne mu'n se ada nahee karsakta........

1) KOYEE BHEE SHIA MUHAMMAD (s.a.w) AUR AAL E MUHAMMAD (a.s) KE BAARE MEI AISA TASAWWUR BHEE NAHEE KARSAKTA KE WOH UNKE RUTBE TAK PHONCHE...

2) KOYEE SHIA APNE AAPKO ALAG 'MAZHAB' NAHEE KEHELWAYE GA......

aur just incase agar mei 0.00000000000001% chance hai ke mei galat hu'n, to APP PLEASE APNA LEHJA DURUST KEEJIYE.....AUR AAP PLEASE SHIA ISLAM KE BAARE MEI PARHYE AUR PHIR WAHAABIYO'n SE BAAT KARAI'N....APNEE KITAABAI'n PARHEE NAHEE AUR WAHAABI SE BAAT KARNE CHAL DIYE......PEHLE GRADE 1 KA AQAID TO PARHO, PHIR JAAKAR HUQQUL YAQEEN AUR DOOSREE AISEE AZEEM KITAABO'N KE BAARE MEI BAAAT KARNA.....AAP KEE MISAAL WOHEE HAI KE 2 DIN KE BACHE KO THEEKEE NIHAAREE KHILADENA>....PETH TO KHARAB HOGA HEE NA......

useless topic...

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meri to sirf itni khawahish ha k kash ye mutta jesi manhoos cheez hamare mazhab e shia se nikal di jai kiun k muje gair muslimo or gair shion ko is hawale se face krte hoe barii sharam ati ha

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salam,

Aray koi hanggama ya jhagdha thori ho raha hai. sab ko apnay apny khayalaat derj kerney ka haq hai.

LOL,ya wanted me to comment on this topic.

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OHHHH PLZZZZZZZZZZ...BEFORE ANYBODY REPLIES IN HERE......PLEASE CHK OUT THE INTENTIONS OF THE TOPIC STARTER:

yeh alfaaz koyee shia apne mu'n se ada nahee karsakta........

1) KOYEE BHEE SHIA MUHAMMAD (s.a.w) AUR AAL E MUHAMMAD (a.s) KE BAARE MEI AISA TASAWWUR BHEE NAHEE KARSAKTA KE WOH UNKE RUTBE TAK PHONCHE...

2) KOYEE SHIA APNE AAPKO ALAG 'MAZHAB' NAHEE KEHELWAYE GA......

aur just incase agar mei 0.00000000000001% chance hai ke mei galat hu'n, to APP PLEASE APNA LEHJA DURUST KEEJIYE.....AUR AAP PLEASE SHIA ISLAM KE BAARE MEI PARHYE AUR PHIR WAHAABIYO'n SE BAAT KARAI'N....APNEE KITAABAI'n PARHEE NAHEE AUR WAHAABI SE BAAT KARNE CHAL DIYE......PEHLE GRADE 1 KA AQAID TO PARHO, PHIR JAAKAR HUQQUL YAQEEN AUR DOOSREE AISEE AZEEM KITAABO'N KE BAARE MEI BAAAT KARNA.....AAP KEE MISAAL WOHEE HAI KE 2 DIN KE BACHE KO THEEKEE NIHAAREE KHILADENA>....PETH TO KHARAB HOGA HEE NA......

useless topic...

Salam ,

you have a point dear.I also see "bint-e ali" as a case of impersonification [as Shia].

The debate can be done even without disguising oneself as Shia.

Mut-aa is not a black spot on Shism that Shias will hesitate to debate on it.

wassalam

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salam,

aAp kiya kehna chah rehai hain asher, kuch samajhnahi aya?

kiya aap kehrehai hain kay sunnat e Rasool[pbuh]ko badal dena jaaiz hai?

ws

(bismillah)

Walaikum salaam, :cry:

Sunnat-e-rasool (pbuh) ki sunnat par chalney key liye tu mein duayein kart hoon.Mein aisa kiyun kahon?Nazu-billah.......

Dost agr aap ney meri aakhri post ka aakhri fiqra parha hey tu us par zara gaur karein.Allah ney quran mein ayaton key aakhir mein aksar yeh farmaya hey khe meri ayaton par gaur karney walon key liye nishaniyan hein..

Is surah ki ayat dekhein aur us par gaur karein :(surah rum)

http://www.quranweb.org/urdu/

Is surat ki ayat raqam 3 par (surah nisa) aur ayat raqam 24 par gaur karein :

http://www.quranweb.org/urdu/

Sirf in ayaton ko agr aap gaur sey parhein aur samjhney ki kooshish karein duaon ko saath jari rakhtey huey(khe Allah mujehy nafay wala ilm ata kar)tu inshaAllah jinhon ney sawal kiya hey "muta" ka in ayaton mein in ka jawab pooshida hey.

Shaadi mein aur muta mein faraqh wazhiya hey.Is ko jaan lenay key bawajood agr aap ussi rah par chalna chahtey hein jo andheray ki taraf ley kar jaye tu Allah key siwa koi hidayat nahin dey sakta.

mein nahin keht khe mein bhut sahih aur seedhay rastey par chalta hoon,albatta duayein hameshan kart hoon...alhamdulillah...

Jis dost ney yeh sawal kiya us mein jawab maujood tha..tu is ka jawab tu unkey sawal key andar tha..

"phir hamare yahan is topic per bat kerna bhi zaroori nahi samjha jata or koi baap apni beti or koi bhai apni bhan k liye mutta ko pasaand nahi kerta "....

yehi is ka jawab hey.Is key ilawa bhi bhut hein liken guro-fikr karney walon jaisey key quran ney kaha.

Sab sey bari baat jo yahan horahi hey.."Shia muslim"....Quran ney ya Allah ney islam key mananey walon ko musalman kaha hey..."shia"..ya "sunni"..nahin...

Surah hajj ki ayat raqam 78 dekhein:

http://www.quranweb.org/urdu/

Humein dosron sey seekhnay key liye Allah ney kabhi mana nahin kiya liken Allah ney yeh bhi kaha hey guro-fikr karo.Ab guro-fikr tu insaan ka dimag khud hi karey ga ,koi dosra tu nahin.. :angel:

Mutah ek waqt key liye sahi tha liken us key baad aney wali nasloon key liye is ko haraam qarar dey diya gaya tha.Ab aney waley kuch logon ney woh baatein nikali hein jo us waqt key liye jayiz thein liken baad mein haraam keh di gayein thein.Woh khud bhi gumrah hein aur logon ko bhi kar rahey hein.Aap shayed meri baaton ko parh kar kahein mein kaun haut hoon yeh kehnay wal?

Liken quran par gaur farmayein,aap ko us key andar hi is ka jawab mil jaye ga.inshaAllah

Sach aur jhoot key faraqh ko janana zaroori hey aur zaroori nahin her insaan sahi hou.Insaan khatayon ko putla hey.

Anbiya karaam (as) sey bhi ghaltiyan huein.

Liken sab sey barh kar insaan woh hey jo apni ghaltiyon ko samjhey aur Allah ki bargaah mein maafi mangey...

Ayatein mein ney aap ko dikha di hein,is par guro-fikr karna aur samjhna aap ka kaam hey jo key Allah ki madad key beghair na mumkin hey.

Meri Allah sey dua hey ko woh sab ko hidayat dey aur nafey waley ilm sey rooshna karey aur humein apney hifzo-aman mein rakhey :cry:

Wasalaam

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