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Interior Ministry (body responsible for holding elections) has announced and published the results. The results have been published in details (categorized by provinces, cities, expats locations etc).. It is well documented and available on various websites now including ShiaChat too..

This is what i call evidence.. I hope you understand now.

The reported results you cite have been analyzed and deemed questionable by a highly credible website dedicated to the statistical analysis of elections.

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To all the non Iranian Supporters of Ahmedinejad...(Specially people from countries that get financial aid from Iran) you'll will be receiving 5 kilos of potatoes each for your loyal support. If you have any minor you have to take care of an additional 2.5kg of potatoes. Please accept our potato aid instead of financial aid this time. We have to build our country now, and we have excess potatoes we can donate to you'll. Please continue supporting us, You'll shall get more potatoes per head. All shia brother and sisterswho support Mousavi, you'll are most welcome to come and work in iran if you are out of jobs due to the global recession. The only thing is you'll will have to earn the same amount of salary our fellow iranians earn. $500 for shia chatters who have bachelor, masters degree. $200 if you are a college graduate. If high school, we have plenty of volunteer work you can do to build Iran. Karoubi Supporters, you'll each will get a rosary to do estikhara whether to get potato aid or work as a volunteer in Iran. If Rezai supporter you'll get do alittle bit of all, abit of potato, abit of work, and make istekhara only once.

Ws Supreme Leaders of Iran.

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Meanwhile, Iran's government is wobbling. It would seem that the theocracy is more than a bit worried. First, they took three hours to announce the totals, and now the mullah-in-chief is going to "investigate." These are interesting times.

Even if the "recount" supposedly announced by Khamenei is a stall tactic just to buy time to really rig the original results, it does reveal that perhaps he is no longer the "supreme" leader, and that there are other power centers (military?) that Ahmedinejad serves as a frontman for, that are calling the shots in Iran now.

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In fact, I have presented evidence that the election was rigged. But I can't "prove" the allegation, just as those who believe the official story can't "prove" that the government's version is correct.

That's just it- I don't think either side can definitively prove their case. This is what I was worried about from the beginning. So where does this leave us? I don't know.

Cyan- from my understanding (which is limited), there are some tensions between certain prominent figures in Qom and Ahmadinejad. I'm not saying that they support a reformist candidate or whatever, but it isn't apparently all peaches and cream. Allahu alim.

Wasalaam

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These are all appointees of Ahmadinejad, no? If so, there are certain grounds for suspicion of bias to most. In Bangladesh, for example, what happens when one government's term ends is that a caretaker government assumes control and, assuming they would be less biased and more independent than a partisan government, hold and manage the elections. This is not the case in Iran, is it?

Thats how the elections take place in Iran.. its nothing new that AN has done.. same was the situation when Khatami was President after his 1st term and Interior Ministry handled the elections..

And every country has a different system with regards to poll.. In India there is a seperate 3 member Election Commission which conducts the poll.. although again the case is that the govt. nominates new members to the comission after incumbent's term expires.. and so we can't compare election system in one nation with another and raise concerns over it after the election results have been declared..

There is need for election reforms.. but that should not be a point of concern after you have agreed to the system and participated and lost the elections.. If one is really sincere then accept the outcome of poll process and work for poll reforms so that they are in place before next elections.. but opposition is not interested in that..

What opposition is doing can be done by everyone when they lose elections.. because ultimately the govt. also only has official counts of votes and custody of casted ballots as proofs of a sound elections.. If this is not acceptable as a proof then even when a reformist wins next time, principalist can reject the results on same basis as opposition is doing today...

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There is need for election reforms.. but that should not be a point of concern after you have agreed to the system and participated and lost the elections.. If one is really sincere then accept the outcome of poll process and work for poll reforms so that they are in place before next elections.. but opposition is not interested in that..

Either that or at least address the need for this reform prior to the elections and not post-losing-the-race if you fear there may be cheating involved.

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If you are saying the election was rigged then the onus is on YOU to present evidence to back it up. If you don't have any, stop wasting bandwidth with your baseless accusations and rumours. The Interior Ministry has released detailed information regarding the breakdown of the share of the votes. In some cities, Mousavi won more votes than AN. However, AN won twice as many votes as Mousavi overall. The result is not difficult to comprehend, if you have an idea of the demographics of Iranian society.

Mousavi's supporters should look closely at who is supporting them in spreading these rumours of election irregularities. It tends to be Iran's enemies.. Doesn't that tell you something?

On the basis of events that took place today and yesterday, it is clear that Mousavi should be brought up on charges of incitement to riot, and prevented from standing for election again. If he was'nt satisfied with the election process, he should not have participated. No doubt he will not be satisfied with any response the Guardian Council or Interior Ministry give to his written complaints either. The only answer he will accept is: 'yes you are right'. This man's real calling in life is as a mobster/gangster. If you think he really believes in democracy, ask yourself why he incites his supporters to mob violence. If this man was in power and his supporters didn't suddenly become rich (of course, like most western politicians he makes the empty promise 'more pay less work!' and this would quickly be followed by disillusion when he fails to deliver), what kind of street thuggery would characterise his rule?

Yesterday's 'contender' should find a new hobby to sustain his self-importance methinks.. maybe hard drugs or porn or whatever else his western allies would like to infect Iranian urban life with in the name of 'liberal democracy' or 'freedom'.

EXACTLY. Well said. Hopefully he will be tried for his incitement and huge damage to Iran's interests, image, and security.

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As I noted earlier, neither you nor me can prove that the election was either legitimate or stolen, because neither you nor me has access to the ballots themselves. You are relying on statements from a self-serving government, and I am relying on other reports, some of which I have posted in the earlier thread in the form of edits. But there is no "proof." There can't be.

I agree, no one can prove anything. The report you posted are the 'unofficial results' (Iranian Home Office). The fact is neither of the results, official or non-official can be proven. Iran does not have an international monitoring of the voting system and the numbers that are given cannot in fact be disputed nor proven fraudulent.

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I agree, no one can prove anything. The report you posted are the 'unofficial results' (Iranian Home Office). The fact is neither of the results, official or non-official can be proven.

And they want a legitimite govt. to be dismissed on basis of unproven charges..

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Perhaps just for the sake of perspective, but are American presidential elections watched over by international monitors?

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That's just it- I don't think either side can definitively prove their case. This is what I was worried about from the beginning. So where does this leave us? I don't know.

Like all Americans, I am watching this from afar, and am impressed by the desire of Iranians for free elections, popular sovereignty, and adherence to a written constitution, all of which are concepts introduced to the world by the American revolution of 1775-1781. The sight of millions of Iranians in the streets of their cities demanding these rights cannot help but stir the hearts of Americans who are watching. Now we await the outcome. Will Iran's leadership bow to the will of the people as it did in 1979, or will it crush the will of the people, as the Chinese did in 1989 in Tiananmen Square?

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness

- Thomas Jefferson, The Declaration of Independence, 1776

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Like all Americans, I am watching this from afar, and am impressed by the desire of Iranians for free elections, popular sovereignty, and adherence to a written constitution, all of which are concepts introduced to the world by the American revolution of 1775-1781. The sight of millions of Iranians in the streets of their cities demanding these rights cannot help but stir the hearts of Americans who are watching. Now we await the outcome. Will Iran's leadership bow to the will of the people as it did in 1979, or will it crush the will of the people, as the Chinese did in 1989 in Tiananmen Square?

Who cares about you're [Edited Out] revolution? The United States government has done nothing but caused havoc and mischief in the world and since you are a tax payer you are too accountable for these damages. We will crush these protesters and no one cares about how Americans feel. I suggest you worry about you're own problems. Second if the government decides to crush them or not is the Iranian people's choice.

You come from a nation filled with ignorant people who know nothing and run news networks like the CNN and Fox news and actually BELIEVE IT. Maybe you should go watch the Bill O'rilley show or jump around and dance when Obama speaks about change.

Iran for Iranians.

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The sight of millions of Iranians in the streets of their cities demanding these rights cannot help but stir the hearts of Americans who are watching.

Did scenes of riots and demonstration on streets of France stirred the heart of Americans after Sarzosky was elected as the President of France ????.. Or probably it did not, because Sarzosky was a US ally and it did not matter if masses protested the results.

And did the pro democracy movements, in US closest Mid East allies like Egypt, not move American's heart enough to convince their leadership to not entertain a dictator like Hosne Mubarak ???.. Again probably it did not.. because Mubarak is your ally.. and US still hobnobs with those Arab dictators freely and proudly

More than any other place, Americans should have atleast been moved when their own ex-President was reported/alleged to have rigged the US elections.. that moment showed how true this nation is to the spirit of Democrarcy..

Sometimes its not bad to do some reality check on claims of moral supremacy and authority.. But thats not possible when someone is blinded by his/her 'HOLIER THAN THOU' feelings...

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Like all Americans, I am watching this from afar, and am impressed by the desire of Iranians for free elections, popular sovereignty, and adherence to a written constitution, all of which are concepts introduced to the world by the American revolution of 1775-1781. The sight of millions of Iranians in the streets of their cities demanding these rights cannot help but stir the hearts of Americans who are watching. Now we await the outcome. Will Iran's leadership bow to the will of the people as it did in 1979, or will it crush the will of the people, as the Chinese did in 1989 in Tiananmen Square?

As an Iranian reading your optimistic views for Iran, I cannot help but to fart. First of all, stay out of our affairs. If people think there is a problem with our voting system, we will resolve it. We WANT a theocracy. We LOVE a theocracy and we do not want your Thomas Jefferson or liberal democratic values AT ALL. We are a collectivist society, that means we are very keen on unity and our religion and we do not want to seperate it because your priests could not control themselves, both in political power and with the kids. We do NOT share this history with you and have thus no reason to want to be like you at all.

In fact we hope Americans can one day come out of their totalitarian lifestyles and take a deeper look into life, to see that putting your mothers and daughters in striptease bars, clubs, putting them on billboards on the street and allowing them to date different men and sleep with them does not mean you allow freedom and the will of the people, neither does it mean you respect women or give them equal rights. The movement of feminism was popularized by Bernays who simply wanted women to start smoking because half of the market was missing due to the smoking taboo. Similarly, much of the freedom people have gotten is the freedom to have sex with whoever and even animals, with small children, child pornography, lust and urge culture where women and men are constantly stimulated to behave like animals. This is not freedom, this is not the will of the people. The West through its propaganda has constantly used moral corruption to bring people towards its own culture and lifestyle: The Iranian TV on our satellite channels are all based and funded by the United States, almost all of the channels show halfnaked women dancing and singing to people who want an ethical life and government. This is how you and your filthy government attempts to influence the world and impose your ideas on them.

I am sorry, but we want nothing of this liberalism or the liberal democracy that you offer: Our Iran is a theocratic and democratic Iran and it will always remain this way. I am happy that the Chinese today are the ones handing YOUR people the foodstamps. And that the political hegemony and economic decline of the US and Europe has already begun, to the pleasure of Asia, since this will be the region of the coming century: hopefully without your zealotry.

By the way, your article of "Revolutionary guards arrested in Iran" is derived from Cyrus News, a website loyal to the Shah, a dictator whom you installed 30 years ago and the refugees are still living in your country living from billions of dollar assets stolen oil money in the Virginia falls mountains. Talk about a parochial mindset.

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It seems that elements of the Revolutionary Guard are contemplating switching sides. From an outside perspective, this reminds me a lot of 1979.

According to the Cyrus News Agency, Tuesday morning 16 senior members of Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps were arrested. "These commanders have been in contact with members of the Iranian army to join the people's movement," CNA reports

http://www.cyrusnews.com/news/fa/?mi=9∋=2307 I hope you can read Farsi you dumb yank. This website is anti-government and spreading disinformation.

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One of the reports i read today said that most of the heavily used Twitter accounts have been traced to Israel and media outlets like Jerusulum Posts.. it is alleged that they were created just a day before voting and have been highly in use..

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As an Iranian reading your optimistic views for Iran, I cannot help but to fart. First of all, stay out of our affairs. If people think there is a problem with our voting system, we will resolve it. We WANT a theocracy. We LOVE a theocracy and we do not want your Thomas Jefferson or liberal democratic values AT ALL. We are a collectivist society, that means we are very keen on unity and our religion and we do not want to seperate it because your priests could not control themselves, both in political power and with the kids. We do NOT share this history with you and have thus no reason to want to be like you at all.

In fact we hope Americans can one day come out of their totalitarian lifestyles and take a deeper look into life, to see that putting your mothers and daughters in striptease bars, clubs, putting them on billboards on the street and allowing them to date different men and sleep with them does not mean you allow freedom and the will of the people, neither does it mean you respect women or give them equal rights. The movement of feminism was popularized by Bernays who simply wanted women to start smoking because half of the market was missing due to the smoking taboo. Similarly, much of the freedom people have gotten is the freedom to have sex with whoever and even animals, with small children, child pornography, lust and urge culture where women and men are constantly stimulated to behave like animals. This is not freedom, this is not the will of the people. The West through its propaganda has constantly used moral corruption to bring people towards its own culture and lifestyle: The Iranian TV on our satellite channels are all based and funded by the United States, almost all of the channels show halfnaked women dancing and singing to people who want an ethical life and government. This is how you and your filthy government attempts to influence the world and impose your ideas on them.

I am sorry, but we want nothing of this liberalism or the liberal democracy that you offer: Our Iran is a theocratic and democratic Iran and it will always remain this way. I am happy that the Chinese today are the ones handing YOUR people the foodstamps. And that the political hegemony and economic decline of the US and Europe has already begun, to the pleasure of Asia, since this will be the region of the coming century: hopefully without your zealotry.

By the way, your article of "Revolutionary guards arrested in Iran" is derived from Cyrus News, a website loyal to the Shah, a dictator whom you installed 30 years ago and the refugees are still living in your country living from billions of dollar assets stolen oil money in the Virginia falls mountains. Talk about a parochial mindset.

Yes for the most part I agree with you even though I am an America. Long live Iran.

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One of the reports i read today said that most of the heavily used Twitter accounts have been traced to Israel and media outlets like Jerusulum Posts.. it is alleged that they were created just a day before voting and have been highly in use..

it is obvious that the whole "twitter revolution" is being run from american intelligence HQs or Pentagon or wherever else it may be...

I just read on one of the twitter feeds the following:

State Dept says it pressed twttr not 2 shut dn 4 maintenance b/c of its role in #iranelection

Twitter had a scheduled maintenance and State Department apparently got involved and convinced twitter to postpone it. since when does State Department get involved in online activities of this nature, especially twitter ??????????

Also, apparently BBC changed its color to green in "solidarity"???!?! the collusion of western media in inciting riots and an attempted coup is obvious for all to see now. their cover is blown, they are no longer pretending to be mere observers now that they got their so-called "revolution" off the ground. but little do they know that this revolution will not exceed the boundaries of rich anti-religious north Tehran.

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Like all Americans, I am watching this from afar, and am impressed by the desire of Iranians for free elections, popular sovereignty, and adherence to a written constitution, all of which are concepts introduced to the world by the American

Its amazing to see Americans, the supposed inventors of all those goodies, reduced to being impressed or enjoying those goodies from afar. Many thought that Bush also rigged the elections and many more witnessed him reducing that so called cherished constitution to toilet paper. Where was the American desire for their free elections or popular sovereignty or adherence to written constitution? Do you believe that today's Americans have a fraction of the strength that the Iranians are showcasing today or were blessed with during the times of the founding fathers? I highly doubt it.

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if there is any doubt about BBC's role in inciting these riots , see how they are reporting the pro-Iran (called "pro-Ahmadinejad" ) rally :

"Thousands of supporters of President Ahmadinejad staged their own rally in Vali Asr Square in central Tehran - some bussed in from the provinces, correspondents say."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8103577.stm

AS IF there are no Ahmadinejad supporters/voters in Tehran , and AS IF non-Tehranis are lesser Iranians !!!

Also note how they describe a rally that did not quite bring more than a few thousand protestors in north tehran as "mass opposition rally" , avoiding referring to "thousands" of protesters , whereas for Ahmadinejad rallies that have hundreds of thousands of participants are described as "thousands" of protestors... and also, notice that the circle of protests is being reduced and the inciters are now rallying in places where they are actually from (moussavi stronghold in northern tehran) , but this is just mentioned in passing , that the rally was held in northern tehran, with no further explanation as to what northern tehran is..

BBC:

The importance of such new means of communication was highlighted by a US official on Tuesday.

The official said the state department contacted Twitter over the weekend to urge it to delay a planned upgrade that could have cut daytime service to Iranians.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8103577.stm

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it's official , obama is trying to stage a coup d'etat in IRI :

U.S. State Department speaks to Twitter over Iran

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. State Department contacted the social networking service Twitter over the weekend to urge it to delay a planned upgrade that could have cut daytime service to Iranians, a U.S. official said on Tuesday.

"We highlighted to them that this was an important form of communication," said the official of the conversation the department had with Twitter at the time of the disputed Iranian election. He declined further details.

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssTechMed...T01137420090616

Twitter delays down time to aid Iranian protesters

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Social networking service Twitter delayed a planned upgrade to avoid cutting daytime service to Iranians who have been using it to coordinate protests against a disputed presidential election.

"... Our network partners at NTT America recognize the role Twitter is currently playing as an important communication tool in Iran," the blog post said. NTT America is a subsidiary of NTT Communications Corporation of Japan

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...9061601221.html

Edited by AshrafN

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Ahmadinejad is not our president

The number of people who voted is a lot more than the previous elections. This means they want to change something, They are tired of something. The results are funny. Ahmadinejad 24 million ?! sounds stupid ! Mousavi, Karroubi, and Rezaee all believe the results have been changed. All three of them can certainly prove it. Ahmadinejad is a liar, No one can trust his ministers and the men who work for him. We ( Mousavi and Karroubi fans ) don't care what Khamenei says. Unlike the great Imam Khomeini, Khamenei is acting just like kings. He can not tell us what is right and wrong. We say the results have been changed and he says NO ! Everything's OK ! He doesn't even give us the chance to talk.

Some employees working at the ministry revealed the real results. Most people have voted for Mousavi. Ahmadinejad being the president for another four years?! that's a disaster !

What simpletons like you dont realize that challenging the results this way as opposed to legal and proper way is an attack against the very foundation of the regime. On the second thought I think you all know it but are too afraid to spell it out.

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Who cares about you're [Edited Out] revolution?

Prior to the American Revolution, there were no written constitutions, no concept of popular sovereignty, and no concept of individual rights separate from those of governments. Whether you know it or not, billions of people care about our [Edited Out] revolution. Our [Edited Out] revolution is just as revolutionary today as it was 230 years ago. When they revolted in China, what did they carry? A replica of the Statue of Liberty. When they revolted in Teheran this week, what did they demand? Free elections. You can say whatever the hell you want to say, but our [Edited Out] revolution still inspires the world in a way that your mullahs will never even begin to touch.

As an Iranian reading your optimistic views for Iran, I cannot help but to fart. First of all, stay out of our affairs. If people think there is a problem with our voting system, we will resolve it. We WANT a theocracy. We LOVE a theocracy and we do not want your Thomas Jefferson or liberal democratic values AT ALL. We are a collectivist society, that means we are very keen on unity and our religion and we do not want to seperate it because your priests could not control themselves, both in political power and with the kids. We do NOT share this history with you and have thus no reason to want to be like you at all.

Obama is in fact staying out of Iran's election, and has gone out of his way to say so. As for the rest, it would seem that several million of your people have a pretty big problem with your government. But yes, it will in fact be up to Iranians to handle this. As for priests not controlling themselves, I think the record of religious corruption speaks for itself, both in the West and in Islamic nations. The difference is that, in the West, religious authorities do not wield civil authority in the name of God. Instead, they must rely on persuasion.

The separation of church and state is a signature American idea. It is one of the key ideas that separated us from Europe.

Experience witnesseth that ecclesiastical establishments, instead of maintaining the purity and efficacy of religion, have had a contrary operation. During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution. -- James Madison, author of the U.S. Constitution and fourth president of the U.S.

Such sentiments were common at the time of the American Revolution. As a result, the U.S. constitution forbids the establishment of religion by government; guarantees the free exercise of religion free of government suppression; and forbids any religious qualification for holding governmental office. Domestic laws in the U.S. forbid discrimination in housing, employment, or accommodations based on religion.

What simpletons like you dont realize that challenging the results this way as opposed to legal and proper way is an attack against the very foundation of the regime. On the second thought I think you all know it but are too afraid to spell it out.

In fact, the Iranian rulers ignored their own legal procedures in a number of ways. That, plus highly suspicious voting results, have sent millions of Iranians into the streets against their government.

Many thought that Bush also rigged the elections and many more witnessed him reducing that so called cherished constitution to toilet paper. Where was the American desire for their free elections or popular sovereignty or adherence to written constitution?

You seem not to have noticed a few things. In 2006, Bush's party was driven from control of Congress in free elections. Last November, Bush's party lost more control in Congress, and the other party's candidate was elected president in free elections. Then there was the shocking and shameful torture committed by the American military under Bush's orders. It was first revealed within the U.S. military and publicized by the American free press. Further actions were taken on behalf of the detainees by American civil rights organizations pursuing legal cases through the American independent judicial system, and several key rulings according to the U.S. constitution have resulted in the freeing of more than half of the Guantanamo Bay prisoners. Those efforts continue today, and within a year the prison will be closed.

That's how a free country works. What happened under Bush was shameful, and if you look at my postings on this site in past years you will see the record of my own anguish, which was shared by millions here. Fortunately, our system did work, although I would be remiss if I didn't admit to being worried that it wouldn't. If it were up to me, there would be war crimes trials for Bush and his cronies, and many of them would be imprisoned. I doubt that will happen, but the true object of such trials -- exposing the behavior and changing it -- will be accomplished. This is because the American system worked as it was designed to work. This country does a lot of bad stuff, but we don't keep too many secrets.

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Prior to the American Revolution, there were no written constitutions, no concept of popular sovereignty, and no concept of individual rights separate from those of governments. Whether you know it or not, billions of people care about our [Edited Out] revolution. Our [Edited Out] revolution is just as revolutionary today as it was 230 years ago.

The Romans

The Roman Republic created their constitution in the year 509 B.C. so it certainly predates the U.S. constitution and actually played a significant role in the creation of the U.S. constitution as both are based upon the concept of a Republic.

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Iraq

Excavations in modern-day Iraq by Ernest de Sarzec in 1877 found evidence of the earliest known code of justice, issued by the Sumerian king Urukagina of Lagash ca 2300 BC. Perhaps the earliest prototype for a law of government, this document itself has not yet been discovered; however it is known that it allowed some rights to his citizens. For example, it is known that it relieved tax for widows and orphans, and protected the poor from the usury of the rich.

Detail from Hammurabi's stele shows him receiving the laws of Babylon from the seated sun deity.

After that, many governments ruled by special codes of written laws. The oldest such document still known to exist seems to be the Code of Ur-Nammu of Ur (ca 2050 BC). Some of the better-known ancient law codes include the code of Lipit-Ishtar of Isin, the code of Hammurabi of Babylonia, the Hittite code, the Assyrian code and Mosaic law

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Islam

After immigrating from Mecca to Medina, the Prophet Muhammad established a nation of equals based on the brotherhood between the Muslims in Medina and those from Mecca regardless of wealth or social status. The Muslims of Medina shared their wealth and homes with the immigrants from Mecca, who left their homes and possessions behind to escape from religious persecution.

Muhammad invited the Jews to join the new society as an independent nation, governed by rabbinical court, within the Muslim Nation. The Jews accepted and an agreement known as The Covenant of Medina was signed in 622 AD.

The covenant guaranteed all the parties equality and freedom of religion; emphasized the sanctity of Medina, life, and individual possessions; and prohibited crime.

The Covenant of Medina was a giant leap for mankind and established the basis for treating non-Muslim minorities within the Muslim Nation which ruled the civilized world for more than 8 centuries.

Minorities were not merely tolerated but treated as independent nations free to practice their religion, wear their traditional clothing, maintain their own language and customs, and follow their religious law.

The treatment of minorities within the Muslim Nation was superior to that within any country in the world today. This treatment was also one of the reasons Islam spread very rapidly throughout the civilized world in the 7th century.

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Yeah, again my point, you're retarded.

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