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Why did I become a Sunni or a Muslim?

I have dedicated my story of Islam to shed light into understanding of Persians and Shiats which I hope it will help those searchers of truth. I personally believe that there are enough and complete admonition in Quran, Hadith and the lives of the companion of the Messenger of God ‘Mohammad’ (May the peace and blessing be upon him). But due to recent political situations around the world concerning Sunni-Shiat fights, arguments and quarrels, I felt that maybe I should break my silence and let the world know the truth.

My Muslim name is Abubakr Hashimy belonging to a Persian middle class family and was born in Tehran, Iran. I grow up under secular style of life and ideology. When I was in Iran, my parents use to train me to love the former king of Iran ‘SHAH’ and to avoid religion and to love the west. I remember when my mother use to teach me that when they ask you to go to religious rituals just say that I have stomach ache so that they send you home, and that is exactly what I use to do. During my school years in Iran, we had to study the shiat version of Islam at the public schools, and I mean pressured way of religious studies whether we liked it or not. Time passed until mid-eighties when I was in 6th and 7th grade, when I became a big fan of western rock stars like Michel Jackson and other famous singers. I used to think that this is the coolest thing to do at those times and I was only 12 years old. I may seem very young to some people but my brain had the adolescent mentality unlike nowadays where you find most teenagers belonging to game boy generation.

My parents used to feel worried about me that maybe one day the government extremist may arrest me for being pro-western and send me to war against Iraq as it was common in those days for kids to be recruited to join the Basiji or revolutionary forces. So they decided to migrate to the land of freedom where we all can be safe and happy. Therefore the ideal country for this purpose was United States where we could start a new life and live with those who have the same ideology as we did. But something was about to happen to me which was a shock to everyone and not just to my family members.

When I arrived to United States, I felt very happy as the luckiest man in the world. But after sometime I started feeling homesick and went in to depression for loosing my friends, cozen and relatives back in Iran. I started feeling guilty for the things that I have done in my past life, anything that can be considered sin or mistake. I used to feel dark inside as if I could feel my heart tightened, so I burst into tears hoping for a way out of my misery.

One day when I got out of the shower, I looked at my closet and suddenly remembered what my teacher said once to us in our class and this was about a year before I came to America. He was my religious teacher in the public school who said: ‘ If you want to respect the Quran, you will respect it by reading it’, this saying ringed in my head as soon as I gazed my eyes to the closet where I had a Quran with Persian translation.

I was wearing my towel rope and went to the closet and saw the Quran; I picked it up and sat on my bed. I told myself, let Allah choose a page for me, so I just opened it and started reading. I didn’t have a good tajweed or proper Quranic recitation but I tried to read from what they thought us at the school in Iran and then read the Persian translation. Then suddenly when I was reading it, my head felt light and I felt peace in my heart as if someone threw a water to extinguish the fire. Such a strange feeling of tranquility! This was my first time that I actually was reading the Quran for myself and not for getting a good grade at school in Iran, it felt a huge difference.

So I came across this ayah mentioning that if someone repents, Allah (God) will change the bad deeds to good deeds. So I was filled with hope and felt that this is the best deal that I can get. So I started reading more and more. But sadly, I didn’t know how to perform the five daily Muslim prayers or how to fast due to my dislike of learning Islam in the past when I was in Iran. But since I didn’t know any Islam but the Ayatollah Khomeini way of Shia Islam, so I thought that this was the guided way. My father got so worried that he sent me to YMCA or the fanatic Christian camp which they tried to convert me to Christianity but it back fired on him, because I was a rebellious and a revolutionary son.

A year passed and I use to go to the market in the weekends because I had nothing to do at home and was bored. In the market, for the first time, I saw a Muslim from Palestine by the name Barraq Abdu. I came to know that he was a Sunni Muslim so I felt that since all the Sunnis are kafir (infidel) I have the obligation of enjoining the good and forbidding the evil by converting him to Shiaism. But as the shiat guidelines of how to hang around Sunnis, I used the art of Tuqiah or in an easy translation ‘The Art of Hypocrisy’, which meant that when we meet the Sunnis we say we all are Muslims, brothers, believing one book and should be united but when we go back to our shiat brethren, we call them kafir.

One day when I was debating him about Shias and Sunnis, and I asked him if the Sunnis say in their Adhan(the call of prayer) that Omar or Abubakr (the first two caliphs of Islam) are the friends of god as the shias do with Ali �I bear witness that Ali is the friend of god, I bear witness that Ali is the proof of God, and he responded no, that in those days these issues and problems about who should be the first caliph and etc didn’t exist that is why this new innovation didn’t exist in the time of the prophet Mohammad(saw).

This saying of his made me curious, hit me like an arrow and I started asking myself, that if it didn’t exist in the prophet time, then where did it come from and why? Why do we shias beat ourselves injure ourselves in the day of Ashura, when suicide and hurting ourselves are forbidden in Islam.

I went and bought a book about knowing Islam in Persian written by a Sunni Iranian and learned a summary of the caliphate of Abubakr, Omar, Othman and Ali (May Allah be please with them). There was logical Islamic explanation for their election as the Khalifah or the caliph of Islam. For first time in my entire life, I came across hadith about Abubakr, Omar and Othman (ra). I was shocked, not even as a joke I expected to see our prophet praising them. But here it was our prophet saying if I choose a friend, I will choose Abubakr as a friend or Omar who was given the title of Al-Farooq which means the one who separate the right from wrong, or Othman whom our prophet (saw)said if I have another daughter , I would have married her to him. I didn’t even know that Ali (ra) used to love and defend the first three caliphs of Islam and they used to love him as well.

So after I found out that I was living in darkness, I decided that it is time for me to enter the true Islam, the original Islam, or return to the fundamentals. A week before I become a Sunni, I saw my beloved prophet Mohammad (saw)in a dream. In the dream, I was running away from a crusader and went to this place and closed the door. Then I saw a road in the galaxy coming down towards my direction. I opened the door and it was Prophet Mohammad (saw). I saw him in a green turban as if it was real life and not a dream. In the coming weekend I went to my Palestinian friend in the market and asked him How can I become a Sunni? he said: You are a Sunni!

It was a challenge for me as a young boy of 14 years of age entering Islam. I didn’t know what was Tawheed or Monotheism,because the shia tawheed or idea of monotheism is like Mushrikin or (pagans),they believe in the opposite,for example, they say that if you ask Allah via 12 Imams is better than you ask Allah directly,so they make shirk and partnership to Allah like some sufis. So I thought that now I must ask the first 4 caliphs of Islam for help or to use them like the shiat Imams as wasitah. It took me time to realize that this is a major sin in Islam and that it will kick the person out of Islam.Also their prayer,so I didn’t even know how to pray or fast,etc. My parents moved to the small city of Melbourne in the state of Florida. By then I was 15 years old. At one of the parties I met a so called muslim who told me that there was a mosque in that city so I got the direction and got on my bicycle looking for the mosque.

After finding the mosque which was a humble house in those days, for first time in my life since my arrival to United States, I entered a mosque. I was so happy that I felt, this is my new home. I met many Muslims from different countries and it was so beautiful. I found a lots of good friends who used to help me and give me ride to the mosque if they see me walking in street. This is how I started learning about Islam. But my hardest exam from Allah was about to start.

At first I used to hide my Islam and my connection to the mosque from my parents. I used to tell them that I go to library and study which I was truthful. I used to stop by the library on the way going to mosque so that I don’t lie in Islam. Even when I read the Quran, when my mother used to check on me in my room, I pull my history book forward from underneath my bed, and when she use to leave, I pulled my Quran back again. But this secret was not about to last for ever. It blew up when one of my parent friends found out from the same so called Muslim who told me about the mosque, but sadly this brother left his religion and turned the fire on me.

I had my Quraish who were the secularist Iranians and my parents joining hands in hand against me turning this into a serious and big issue. They started by making many attempts to make me leave Islam including beating me while I performing my prayers, harassing me when reading Quran, forcing me into their wine drinking parties even by coming to the mosque and beating me which didn’t work. My father took a tire off my bicycle and even kicked me out in a cold winter. But nothing worked since I was willing to be killed but not losing Islam. I had no support, the brothers tried to help me by secretly taking me to the mosque because my father threatened the Imam that he will file a law suit against the mosque.

Oh , and me, I had to respect my parents and be patient, turn my other cheek to my father if he slap me but to disobey them when it came to Islam.

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But sadly, I didn’t know how to perform the five daily Muslim prayers or how to fast due to my dislike of learning Islam in the past when I was in Iran. But since I didn’t know any Islam but the Ayatollah Khomeini way of Shia Islam, so I thought that this was the guided way

Uhuh.. because Ayatullah Khomeini (ra) always used to say in his teachings how NOT to pray.. uhuh..

. I came to know that he was a Sunni Muslim so I felt that since all the Sunnis are kafir (infidel)

Uhuh.. because of khomeini (ra), correct?

It was a challenge for me as a young boy of 14 years of age entering Islam. I didn’t know what was Tawheed or Monotheism,because the shia tawheed or idea of monotheism is like Mushrikin or (pagans),they believe in the opposite,for example, they say that if you ask Allah via 12 Imams is better than you ask Allah directly,so they make shirk and partnership to Allah like some sufis.

No way, that's it, my water just broke.

And I'm a man.

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wow what an idiot who would u think waste their time typin fake stories!!!?? and he wasnt following his leader cause his leader was nonsense you guys think that guy could be a leader but not abu bakr umar or uthman wow they were prophets closests friends!!!!!

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wow what an idiot who would u think waste their time typin fake stories!!!?? and he wasnt following his leader cause his leader was nonsense you guys think that guy could be a leader but not abu bakr umar or uthman wow they were prophets closests friends!!!!!

Err yeah, course they were.

I thought you weren't into wasting time typing false stories?

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I have read this before on a nasibi web site. This copy and paste job is as bad as I have ever seen them.

Like Brother P.Ease says you underestimate your readership. We are not idiots.

As for secular Iranians becoming sunnis I know one guy at my uni who did that but so what? He hardly went from shi'ism to sunism. He went from kufr to sunni.

For some it is an act of rebellion against the IRI, whilst also still retaining their islam. For others they genuinly like sunnism. But please dont try to pass this off as some type of indicator of a shift in Iranian Muslims from truth to cover ups.

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(bismillah)

Gameboy generation? I'll have you know I am 13 and I will whoop people 3 times my age in a Debate. If I put a gun to your head and you asked my dad (because you were some how his friend) to ask me to not shoot you.. I would'nt because my dad said not to.. Its called intercession.. Go to a job interview with out any recommendations.. When you get sick dont ask a doctor for help its shirk.. Ask Allah himself. God.. Heres my story..

An egyptian kid called shias kafirs. His dad even called shias kaffirs.. So then he is all like shias dont pray and stuff.. so this was a year ago.. then he saw me doing sunnah fasts and when he called I was usually praying.. So he was like shias dont do that stuff unlike sunnis thank Allah we are sunnis eh.. I told him I was shia.. He sat there he was shocked.. The dude apologized.. Now when I talk to him about sunni islam, I say sahih muslim.. Hes all like WTH is that.. I feel like slapping my self.. the people who claim shias are kaffirs dont even know there own books.. Not advertising his sins but (he also doesnt eat halal)..

How can I take you seriously when you miss the bismillah In your sura fatiha.. its 7 ayats not 6..

Thats the end of my rant.. Sorry If I hurt your feelings.. May allahs wrath be on the enemies of islam and ahlulbayt..

Remember elvis dies on the toilet.

sorry couldnt add in all the punctuation and grammer.. I gotta go to bed.. have to wake up early tommorow

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Why did I become a Sunni or a Muslim?

Why do you presume we care?

I have dedicated my story of Islam to shed light into understanding of Persians and Shiats

You're story did not enlighten us about IRANIANS or Shia- please note is is either SHIA or SHI'ITE never a combination of the two.

I felt that maybe I should break my silence and let the world know the truth.

Again... who are you? Why do you presume the world would care about your life story? Break your silence about your life?? wth??

I remember when my mother use to teach me that when they ask you to go to religious rituals just say that I have stomach ache so that they send you home, and that is exactly what I use to do.

:lol: err well at least your mum got you on the right track eh? Instilling a tendancy toward mendacity. How on earth can you blame not knowing how to pray on Imam Khomeini when it was your mum who told you to feign stomach ache during 'religious rituals'???? When you're asked on judgement day why you didn't pray.. blame Imam Khomeini. let's see how that works out for you.

I may seem very young to some people but my brain had the adolescent mentality unlike nowadays where you find most teenagers belonging to game boy generation.

As opposed to idolizing Michael Jackson?

I was wearing my towel rope and went to the closet

Not to suggest that the rest of your story wasn't... but this really is TOO MUCH INFORMATION!

But sadly, I didn’t know how to fast due to my dislike of learning Islam

You didn't know how not to eat during daylight hours eh? It's a hard concept to grasp.

I can't even be bothered picking apart the rest of your ramblings- they were as convincing as L. Ron Hubbards 'The Way to Happiness'

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(bismillah)

(salam)

if this story is true, i blame your mom first for making you lie and forcing you away from islam...

you see what happened to you is a reported saying of imam Ali (as) that he (as) had never gone into an argument of some sort and lost except with an ignorant. you thought that you are becoming a good muslim (just like an addict who is desperate of life and everything, then suddenly a person comes in and tells him that there's hope, so he grabs unto that person with the thought that he is going in the right path... shaitan is smarter than telling you to steal for a living, you know that's haram and will refuse, so he camouflages that the money you are stealing is your right, making you think that you are doing what is right... a very touching phrase i heard in a lecture the other day, it was somehitng like," if you put your hand on your eyes and block your sight, you wont see anything even if in broad daylight, and that's obviously different than when it is actually dark whether you have your hand on your eyes or not..."

anyways, i advice you to not get your knowledge from ANYBODY, by anybody i mean people claim to be scholars but know nothing of knowledge, those are ignorants spreading their ignorance...

just because a person you met one day, and it happened that in that day you were depressed, hating yourself, and feel that you are worthless, you met a person that seemed nice and knew one thing or too about islam, doesnt make him knowledgeable...

it requires no more than reading few books and getting the facts yourself to know that following ahlul beit (as) is the true islam, the islam that Ibrahim (as), Nouh (as), Issa (as), Mousa (as) were on... (islam doesnt necessarily mean Islam as in who ever says Ash-hadu anna Muhammadan Rasullulh muslim, but the message of islam , and think only of yourself as you stand ON YOUR OWN in front of Allah tabaraka wa ta'3ala you will be asked and it will be your own responsibility to get knowledge about islam (the true one, the islam of ahlul beit (as), not the camouflaged one )...

ws

I have read this before on a nasibi web site. This copy and paste job is as bad as I have ever seen them.

LOL, i knew there is something fishy going on... XD

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The dwindling 'sunnis' on this forum have plumbed new depths of idiocy when it comes to this, copy pasting a fake story about why a person became a deviant. Sorry, sunni.

No sane person, I repeat, no sane person, would leave Islam as taught by the Prophet (S) and the Ahlulbait (as) and replace it with a creed created many years later by one of the Gang Of Four and that has munafiqs, fasiqs and nasibis amongst its idols.

I know a few people who've become shia after being sunnis but the other way round is very rare although I do know of two brothers who went from shia to sunni (ironically they weren't particularly religious when shiah but now have the mandatory long beards & short trousers).

What person leaves a breathtaking garden full of the most beautiful flowers to go live in a hovel? Answer, a person who is blind.

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Funny story. Let us presume it is correct...then..

If someone has become apostate after embracing Islam will it mean Islam is wrong? Poor approach, even i can present many who converted to Shia and found the truth but i do not find any point in this :)

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jazakallah brother sajaad but i just want them to see the truth (sunnah)

I HAVE A MILION DOLLAR QUESTION!!

The shia believe that Allah had appointed Ali (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) to be Caliph. And yet, Ali (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) agreed to arbitration with Muawiyyah (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) during the battle of siffin. The million-dollar question, how could Ali (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) agree to arbitration if it was a matter decreed by Allah?

How could Ali (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) agree to negotiation on this matter if Allah Himself had chosen Ali (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) to be this supposed “Infallible Imam”?

This event proves without a shadow of doubt that Ali (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) was not divinely appointed by Allah nor by His Messenger, since he agreed to arbitration and agreed to Shurah (consultation) to decide who would be the Caliph. This proves that what the Ahlus Sunnah believes is correct: namely that Shurah is the way to elect a leader, much like how Abu Bakr (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) was selected.

There is no plausible explanation that the Shia can give to the million-dollar question: why did Ali (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) agree to Shurah? It is indeed a slap to the face of the Shia faith.

Isn't thing like taqqya is against the personality of Hazrat Ali ra, when he is shair e khuda...? Why didn't he made taqyya in battle of Siffin, in battle of Jamal, why his son Hazrat Hussain ra made taqyya..?

the only way you people answer these question is to lie and make bull out of islam history ..

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jazakallah brother sajaad but i just want them to see the truth (sunnah)

I HAVE A MILION DOLLAR QUESTION!!

The shia believe that Allah had appointed Ali (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) to be Caliph. And yet, Ali (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) agreed to arbitration with Muawiyyah (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) during the battle of siffin. The million-dollar question, how could Ali (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) agree to arbitration if it was a matter decreed by Allah?

How could Ali (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) agree to negotiation on this matter if Allah Himself had chosen Ali (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) to be this supposed “Infallible Imam”?

This event proves without a shadow of doubt that Ali (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) was not divinely appointed by Allah nor by His Messenger, since he agreed to arbitration and agreed to Shurah (consultation) to decide who would be the Caliph. This proves that what the Ahlus Sunnah believes is correct: namely that Shurah is the way to elect a leader, much like how Abu Bakr (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) was selected.

There is no plausible explanation that the Shia can give to the million-dollar question: why did Ali (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) agree to Shurah? It is indeed a slap to the face of the Shia faith.

Isn't thing like taqqya is against the personality of Hazrat Ali ra, when he is shair e khuda...? Why didn't he made taqyya in battle of Siffin, in battle of Jamal, why his son Hazrat Hussain ra made taqyya..?

the only way you people answer these question is to lie and make bull out of islam history ..

Imam Ali(as) agreed to arbitration just as the Prophet(SAWW) made peace treaties with the kaafirs, are you saying the Prophet(SAWW) was breaking his Propethood, by making Treaties like the Treaty of Hudaybiyya, etc.?!

Regarding the incidents of peace made by the Infallibles with the certain tyrants; see this link: http://www.answering-ansar.org/answers/muawiya/en/chap5.php

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Why did the Prophet (s) make peace with the Kuffar of Makka at Hudaibya? The Makkan Kuffar were known for their bad character and evil nature, and yet the Prophet (s) made peace with such individuals. He made a binding covenant with the Kuffar, one which even meant (under the terms) that they would not perform Hajj rather only Umrah, and that any Kaafir that reverted had to be returned to his tribesman. On the written treaty the Prophet (s) even agreed to have his title'Prophet of Allah' being removed. The treaty of Hudaibya was an act that even the brave lion Umar al Farooq vigorously opposed, so much so that he stated that he had 'never doubted the Prophethood as much as he did on that day'. Why did the Prophet (s) enter into such an unjust pact which led to Umar doubting his Prophethood?

In the same way that the difficult situation meant that the Prophet (s) struck out his title from the document, it did not negate his truthful position, Imam Hasan (as) was likewise right for making peace with Mu'awiya. In the same way that the treaty of Hudaibaya did not change the station of the Kuffar as impure, the peace treaty with Mu'awiya, still maintained Imam Hasan's position as on the right path, and further cemented Mu'awiya's as a lying hypocrite. Imam Hasan entered into a peace treaty with Mu'awiya in the same way that Rasulullah (s) made one with the Kufffr of Makka. Whatever excuses these Nasibi offer for the Prophet (s) making peace with the Kuffar of Makka will also be advanced by us to explain the peace treaty Imam Hasan made with Mu'awiya.

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So using your logic, how can you answer why the Prophet(SAWW) would make a peace deal with the disbelievers?! Another point is that the Prophet(as) is still the Prophet(as) regardless of who rejects or accepts his Prophethood; in the same way Imams (like Imam Ali(as) inherently possess the Imamate(as) regardless of who accepts or rejects it. So the situation of muawiyah(la) was a worldly issue that had no affect on Imam Ali(as) still being the Imam, just like the Prophet(SAWW) was still the Infallible Prophet, when he made a worldly peace treaty with the Pagan Quraysh.

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So I came across this ayah mentioning that if someone repents, Allah (God) will change the bad deeds to good deeds. So I was filled with hope and felt that this is the best deal that I can get.

I dont agree with many things in ur story but any ways i thankyou for reminding me this ayat of quraan, may Allah keep momeen on true path(HAQ)

:yaali:

Imam Ali(as) agreed to arbitration just as the Prophet(SAWW) made peace treaties with the kaafirs, are you saying the Prophet(SAWW) was breaking his Propethood, by making Treaties like the Treaty of Hudaybiyya, etc.?!

Regarding the incidents of peace made by the Infallibles with the certain tyrants; see this link: http://www.answering-ansar.org/answers/muawiya/en/chap5.php

Quote- Reply One

Why did the Prophet (s) make peace with the Kuffar of Makka at Hudaibya? The Makkan Kuffar were known for their bad character and evil nature, and yet the Prophet (s) made peace with such individuals. He made a binding covenant with the Kuffar, one which even meant (under the terms) that they would not perform Hajj rather only Umrah, and that any Kaafir that reverted had to be returned to his tribesman. On the written treaty the Prophet (s) even agreed to have his title'Prophet of Allah' being removed. The treaty of Hudaibya was an act that even the brave lion Umar al Farooq vigorously opposed, so much so that he stated that he had 'never doubted the Prophethood as much as he did on that day'. Why did the Prophet (s) enter into such an unjust pact which led to Umar doubting his Prophethood?

In the same way that the difficult situation meant that the Prophet (s) struck out his title from the document, it did not negate his truthful position, Imam Hasan (as) was likewise right for making peace with Mu'awiya. In the same way that the treaty of Hudaibaya did not change the station of the Kuffar as impure, the peace treaty with Mu'awiya, still maintained Imam Hasan's position as on the right path, and further cemented Mu'awiya's as a lying hypocrite. Imam Hasan entered into a peace treaty with Mu'awiya in the same way that Rasulullah (s) made one with the Kufffr of Makka. Whatever excuses these Nasibi offer for the Prophet (s) making peace with the Kuffar of Makka will also be advanced by us to explain the peace treaty Imam Hasan made with Mu'awiya.

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So using your logic, how can you answer why the Prophet(SAWW) would make a peace deal with the disbelievers?! Another point is that the Prophet(as) is still the Prophet(as) regardless of who rejects or accepts his Prophethood; in the same way Imams (like Imam Ali(as) inherently possess the Imamate(as) regardless of who accepts or rejects it. So the situation of muawiyah(la) was a worldly issue that had no affect on Imam Ali(as) still being the Imam, just like the Prophet(SAWW) was still the Infallible Prophet, when he made a worldly peace treaty with the Pagan Quraysh.

What a perfect reply bro may Allah bless you for this service.

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jazakallah brother sajaad but i just want them to see the truth (sunnah)

I HAVE A MILION DOLLAR QUESTION!!

The shia believe that Allah had appointed Ali (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) to be Caliph. And yet, Ali (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) agreed to arbitration with Muawiyyah (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) during the battle of siffin. The million-dollar question, how could Ali (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) agree to arbitration if it was a matter decreed by Allah?

How could Ali (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) agree to negotiation on this matter if Allah Himself had chosen Ali (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) to be this supposed “Infallible Imam”?

This event proves without a shadow of doubt that Ali (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) was not divinely appointed by Allah nor by His Messenger, since he agreed to arbitration and agreed to Shurah (consultation) to decide who would be the Caliph. This proves that what the Ahlus Sunnah believes is correct: namely that Shurah is the way to elect a leader, much like how Abu Bakr (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) was selected.

There is no plausible explanation that the Shia can give to the million-dollar question: why did Ali (ÑÖøì Çááå Úäå) agree to Shurah? It is indeed a slap to the face of the Shia faith.

Isn't thing like taqqya is against the personality of Hazrat Ali ra, when he is shair e khuda...? Why didn't he made taqyya in battle of Siffin, in battle of Jamal, why his son Hazrat Hussain ra made taqyya..?

the only way you people answer these question is to lie and make bull out of islam history ..

Bro i think such questions you should keep to yourself , Judging the ahlulbayt a.s. can backfire on you in very negative ways .

I always say only Sayidina Mu7ammad PBUH was infallible and no one else , that should answer your question .

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Bro i think such questions you should keep to yourself , Judging the ahlulbayt a.s. can backfire on you in very negative ways .

I always say only Sayidina Mu7ammad PBUH was infallible and no one else , that should answer your question .

Let me get this straight you Sunnis criticize our Deen about Imam Ali(as) agreeing to worldly arbitration and Imam Hassan ibn Ali(as) agreeing to a peace treaty with muawiyah(la) and you don't believe the Holy Ahl al-Bayt(as) are Masoom. Yet you acknowledge that the Holy Prophet Muhammad al-Mustafa(SAWW) was Masoom: yet he also conducted peace treaties with disbelievers; like the treaty of Hudaybiyyah!

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Where is the million dollars this lying nasibi promised though? Has anyone been sent it or been asked for bank details so money transfer can be arranged?

Even our resident loon S@jaad stops short of trying to find fault with the Beacons of Light (as), this filthy nasibi lover of Fatty Munafiq has no qualms in trying his hardest (i.e. not very hard but this is the internet generation after all) to try and prove munafiqs and fasiqs were right but the aal of Muhammad (S) were (naudhobillah) wrong.

The Holy Qura'an explicitly testifies to the purity of the Ahlulbait (as) yet we have these so called 'Muslims' denying the fact.

In reality they aren't nasibis, they're far worse because they effectively deny the Holy Book as well denigrate the Prophet (S) and his Glorious offspring (as).

May Allah (SWT) give them exactly what they deserve in this World and the Hereafter.

ALI

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