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Hassan Fallah

Muqtada al-Sadr announced “Mumahhidoun”

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As the 'Eid al-Adha holiday, one of two major Muslim holidays, begins on Monday, papers are reporting on yet another “reorganization” of the Mahdi Army by Shi'a leader Muqtada al-Sadr.

Since 2003, Muqtada’s movement and militia have undergone a consecutive series of restructurings, reorganizations and purges, with little evidence on the ground to show the effect of these projects. As a result, the militia previously known as the Mahdi Army has been given a new name after every such attempt: this time, Az-Zaman reported, Muqtada al-Sadr announced that the activist wing in his movement will now be known as the “Mumahhidoun,” which will acquire a “cultural” character, aiming to educate the young activists and “combat the secular currents.”

Judging from the newspaper report, the standards for admission into the “Mumahhidoun” are a bit strange for an ex-militia: Sadrist volunteers will have to progress through intensive educational courses, each lasting several months, before being accepted as a full member of the movement. Sadrist sources said that 300 “students” have been so far accepted out of 6000 applicants. Az-Zaman quoted sources who reiterated claims to the effect that Sadr wants to recreate the Lebanese Hizbollah model in Iraq with a bottom-up approach, hence the focus on producing disciplined and professional activists and purging unwanted elements.

Sadrists have not posted any electoral material of their own, which confirms that Muqtada will not involve his movement in the elections directly, but will content “to support lists and personalities that he approves of.” The paper said that the lists of ex-Prime Minister Ibraheem al-Ja'fari seem to flourish in pro-Sadrist area, an indication of Ja'fari’s unwritten alliance with the Sadrists in the coming elections.

Edited by Hassan Fallah

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if his intentions were pure he could just help his relative ayatullah sayed hussain al-sadr who has already started such activities and has built many hospitals, schools and factories across iraq to treat, educate and provide a job and money for people. muqtada could easily join them instead of setting up another useless organisation called mumahidoun.

wallahu a3lam

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I agree, Syed Hussein isn't an ayatollah though^

he is an ayatullah. what i think you mean is that he is not a marja3.

wallahu a3lam

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Is he still as big as a few years ago?

Whether its Ahmed Challabi or Ja`afari, they both need his support in the coming elections. He is still having mass support among general Iraqis. Maliki was able to outs him by aerial and ground support of invading Armies and later he organized a semi tribal Militia named as " Support Councils" to confront /check-balance US brokered Sunni's Awakening Council and Kurdish Beshmergas. No one can rule over Baghdad without support of Muqtada. One can rule over tiny broken states of Basra or Arbil but Baghdad belongs to Sadrioun.

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^ I am almost sure that the religious parties will lose significantly in the next general elections. Most iraqis i have talked to say they will not be voting for them next time round, be it hakim, sadr, da3wa or fadhila. Moqtada sadr and Hakim especially has lost a lot of popular support, dont fool yourselves guys. However knowing how much us iraqis (and arabs in general) love to think their a plot in everything...moqtata will have to rely on the peoples paranoia to get anything he wants.

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according to a recent survey done by ICRSS across iraq the popularity of the iraqi politicians between the iraqis is:

1 - Nouri al-Maliki [Prime Minister - Dawa Party] 17.2%

2 - Ayad Allawi [Former Interim Prime Minister - Iraqi National List] 16.7%

.....

4 - Ibrahim al-Jaafari [Former Prime Minister - National Reform Movement] 7.9%

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8 - Moqtada al-Sadr 3.8%

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14- Abdul Aziz al-Hakeem [Head Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council] 1.9%

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20- Ahmed al-Chalabi [iraqi National Congress] 0.5%

and when asked who they will vote for in next election:

1 - None 17.9%

2 - Islamic Dawa Party [Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki] 14.7%

3 - National Accord Front [Former Interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi] 13.3%

.....

8 - National Reformist Movement [Former Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari] 4.3%

9 - Sadr Movement [Moqtada al-Sadr] 4.1%

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13- Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council [Abdul Aziz al-Hakeem] 2.4%

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16- Islamic Dawa Party-Iraq 0.6%

17- Iraqi National Congress 0.4%

so according to the results above looks like that hopefully the iraqis will vote for the seculars next time (unless a new fatwa is issued by sayed sistani) and therefore i dont think muqtada sadr can help anyone however he may need help himself.

wallahu a3lam

Edited by Najafi.

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And murdering other Shi'i leaders like al-Khoei the younger...

(salam)

This is not the proper Islamic way to speak about a fellow shia who passed away, regaurdless of his politics. Please refrain from making such statments in the future.

Peace

Edited by Al-Mufeed

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Not even gonna get into Al Khoie.

Allahu Alem.

What I will say is that needs must. if they didnt fight baghdad would have been shialess.

lets say they killed one they also saved 3 million.

You do the math.

Well then the the prophet could have killed Omar and Abu Bakr and saved the entire Muslim Ummah. He would have killed 2 and saved all of humanity. Let's just say Moqtada had nothing to do with the killing of Sayed Majied for arguments sake, he however didn't do anything about it when he could have. Your words hurt, especially to many who are on sc...Imam Ali (as) says "a wise man thinks before he speaks..."

Edited by Bani Hashim110

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And murdering other Shi'i leaders like al-Khoei the younger...

The Sadrists didn't kill the younger al-Khoei who was nothing but a no good british, american, zionist agent anyway.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2936887.stm

Another quote about him: Strongly pro-US, Sayed Abdul Majid Al-Khoei was a bitter critic of Saddam Hussein. He temporarily lived in London waiting for an opportunity to return to Iraq.

The (edited) Abdul-Majid al-Khoei in the past with his buddy the war criminal former british leader tony blair(la).

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Edited by Al-Mufeed

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Oh how the exile filth love to talk nonsense.

While we all sat warm in our homes the sadrists were on road protecting the shia from the nawasib in baghdad.

And the shia repaid them by moaning.

Ahlul shifaq wa nifaq

exile filth? are you including ayyat baqir hakim? and the other opposition groups? if it wasnt for ahmed chalabi, saddam would still be in power oppressing the ''sadrists''

dont be so harsh. and dont forget...a significant number of the ''mehdi militia'' were baathists.

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exile filth? are you including ayyat baqir hakim? and the other opposition groups? if it wasnt for ahmed chalabi, saddam would still be in power oppressing the ''sadrists''

dont be so harsh. and dont forget...a significant number of the ''mehdi militia'' were baathists.

Salamu alaikum you make some good points. Grand Ayatullah Baqir al-Hakim(ra) was a great Mujahid that would be leading Iraq right now if the wahhabis, americans, british, and zionists hadn't assassinated him(ra). Some foreign groups also worked against the kaafir tyrant saddam(la); it's okay to give some credit to a person like Ahmed Chalabi on this; however Chalabi and others in his ilk also were somewhat puppets of the western occupation. As for the Sadrists, not many of them were baathists. Most of the Sadrists followed Grand Ayatullah Mohammed Sadiq al-Sadr(ra) who was assassinated by agents of the kaafir nasibi saddam(la) in 1999. Of course the Sadrists had to live in Iraq, under the tyrant saddam(la) so they probably had to do certain things likely to save their lives and not face even more persecution and threats from saddam(la) and his baathist agents. Most Mahdi Army fighters were religious students and never worked for saddam(la) or his baathist thugs.

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The Sadrists didn't kill the younger al-Khoei who was nothing but a no good british, american, zionist agent anyway.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2936887.stm

Another quote about him: Strongly pro-US, Sayed Abdul Majid Al-Khoei was a bitter critic of Saddam Hussein. He temporarily lived in London waiting for an opportunity to return to Iraq.

The munafiq Abdul-Majid al-Khoei in the past with his buddy the war criminal former british leader tony blair(la).

0410-03.jpg

:squeez:

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Do you disagree? I understand being against a kaafir tyrant like saddam(la) but that doesn't mean you should go running arm in arm with those people (like tony blair) who are hardcore allies of the zionists who are the chief enemy of the Muslims.

Abdul Majid al-Khoei and his master Tony Blair(la)

0410-03.jpg

2004 pic of Tony Blair(la) of Britain with his true top ally the war criminal genocidal monster ariel sharon(la) of zionist "israel"

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exile filth? are you including ayyat baqir hakim? and the other opposition groups? if it wasnt for ahmed chalabi, saddam would still be in power oppressing the ''sadrists''

dont be so harsh. and dont forget...a significant number of the ''mehdi militia'' were baathists.

What?

Im talking about the idiots on here who diss the sadrists and yet dont know what was happening on the streets of Iraq.

They protected us and anyone who denies this is a pure liar.

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Well then the the prophet could have killed Omar and Abu Bakr and saved the entire Muslim Ummah. He would have killed 2 and saved all of humanity. Let's just say Moqtada had nothing to do with the killing of Sayed Majied for arguments sake, he however didn't do anything about it when he could have. Your words hurt, especially to many who are on sc...Imam Ali (as) says "a wise man thinks before he speaks..."

And when was the Prophet (saaw) supposed to kill these two and for what crime?

What a stretch, abdul majid khoie strolls in from london, brings the baathi stooge along to the shrine with him and expects to just have the keys given to him, all the time whilst espousing pro occupation theories and you want to blame Muqtada for his reckless behaviour?

Khoie did not deserve to die, as mob rule is not what Islam is about, but he, admittely like many exiles, misjudged the iraqi mood. Muqtada and his people lived under the torture and rape and murder the whole time so his follwers were rightfully peeved. Yes, Muqatada could have done more, but then many people could have done more. It is a long step to say he could have done more and then say he killed him himself, as others have said.

Either way the fact remains that the sons of sadr city are the reason Imam Musa Kadhim's shrine is still standing and why baghdad is not 100% sunni.

BTW i am not saying that BECAUSE they killed one they saved three million. i said they MAY have killed one but ALSO saved 3 million. Hence the good outweighs the bad. The two acts are not linked, unlike your confusing example.

Edited by Hassan kachal

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What?

Im talking about the idiots on here who diss the sadrists and yet dont know what was happening on the streets of Iraq.

They protected us and anyone who denies this is a pure liar.

ah ok. understood :)

let us hope they will protect the oppressed again when/ if the baath try to do a coup.

Edited by iraqiunited

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Whether its Ahmed Challabi or Ja`afari, they both need his support in the coming elections. He is still having mass support among general Iraqis. Maliki was able to outs him by aerial and ground support of invading Armies and later he organized a semi tribal Militia named as " Support Councils" to confront /check-balance US brokered Sunni's Awakening Council and Kurdish Beshmergas. No one can rule over Baghdad without support of Muqtada. One can rule over tiny broken states of Basra or Arbil but Baghdad belongs to Sadrioun.

Muqtada is the man of the hour on the ground in Iraq no one can rule Iraq without him

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Oh how the exile filth love to talk nonsense.

While we all sat warm in our homes the sadrists were on road protecting the shia from the nawasib in baghdad.

And the shia repaid them by moaning.

Ahlul shifaq wa nifaq.

What a joke the Sadrists protecting the Shias? Then i guess running to the shrine of Najaf and taking refuge while you are being attacked by the Iraqi forces is also protecting the Shia's holy shrines. Maybe having Sayed Sistani under house arrest and trying to force him to leave Iraq just because he is originally Iranian is protecting the Shias too. Maybe killing innocent (or even guilty if you wish to say) people inside of the holy shrine of Najaf is again another protection that came from the Sadrists for the Shias.

The Sadrists didn't kill the younger al-Khoei who was nothing but a no good british, american, zionist agent anyway.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2936887.stm

Another quote about him: Strongly pro-US, Sayed Abdul Majid Al-Khoei was a bitter critic of Saddam Hussein. He temporarily lived in London waiting for an opportunity to return to Iraq.

The munafiq Abdul-Majid al-Khoei in the past with his buddy the war criminal former british leader tony blair(la).

0410-03.jpg

The Sadrists did infact kill Sayed Abdul Majid Al-Khoei as well as Maher Al-Yaseri and Hayder Al-Killidar and hence an arrest warrant was issued for Muqtada Al-Sadr. Get your facts right.

Any proof that Sayed Abdul Majid Al-Khoei was a British/American/Zionist agent would be very much appreciated. Untill i see any proof i believe you could be a British/American/Zionist agent too. And if the picture with Tony Blair is your proof then i guess the brother of one of your favourite politicians and the current leader of SIIC is also a British/American/Zionist agent.

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Salamu alaikum you make some good points. Grand Ayatullah Baqir al-Hakim(ra) was a great Mujahid that would be leading Iraq right now if the wahhabis, americans, british, and zionists hadn't assassinated him(ra). Some foreign groups also worked against the kaafir tyrant saddam(la); it's okay to give some credit to a person like Ahmed Chalabi on this; however Chalabi and others in his ilk also were somewhat puppets of the western occupation. As for the Sadrists, not many of them were baathists. Most of the Sadrists followed Grand Ayatullah Mohammed Sadiq al-Sadr(ra) who was assassinated by agents of the kaafir nasibi saddam(la) in 1999. Of course the Sadrists had to live in Iraq, under the tyrant saddam(la) so they probably had to do certain things likely to save their lives and not face even more persecution and threats from saddam(la) and his baathist agents. Most Mahdi Army fighters were religious students and never worked for saddam(la) or his baathist thugs.

Lets be realistic and accept theh fact that most of the people in Jaish Al-Mehdi (Sadrists) are young brain washed Shias who just love playing with guns or Ba3this who had no choice but to join Jaish Al-Mehdi in order to survive after the 2003 war. Also please keep in mind that even Sayed Muhammed Al-Sadr who was killed by the Ba3th regime was openly co-operating with them and was the only marja3 who the Ba3th regime allowed to hold prayers in the shrine of Imam Ali in Najaf. It is very well known the even his marja3eeya was set up by the Ba3th regime when he came out of the prison after the Ba3this were refused by Ayatullah Sayed Hussain Al-Sadr.

And all you need to do to figure out who Jaish Al-Mehdi are is to look at the havoc they caused in Karbala during Sha'ban. Please look at the following videos.

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Part 4

Part 5

Part 6

This is the exact protection some members were talking about i believe.

Do you disagree? I understand being against a kaafir tyrant like saddam(la) but that doesn't mean you should go running arm in arm with those people (like tony blair) who are hardcore allies of the zionists who are the chief enemy of the Muslims.

Abdul Majid al-Khoei and his master Tony Blair(la)

0410-03.jpg

2004 pic of Tony Blair(la) of Britain with his true top ally the war criminal genocidal monster ariel sharon(la) of zionist "israel"

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Interesting because Sayed Hassan Nasrullah had exactly the opposite opinion of yours when he said before the Iraq war that we should fight along side Saddam agaisnt america!

Before calling anyone anyone's master edit your signature which is clear SHIRK. Also please refer to the pictures of Sayed Abdul Aziz Al-Hakim which i believe are always left out selectively.

What?

Im talking about the idiots on here who diss the sadrists and yet dont know what was happening on the streets of Iraq.

They protected us and anyone who denies this is a pure liar.

Have a look at the videos and see how well we are protected.

Indeed trying to kick out Sayed Sistani and having him under house arrest was yet another protection.

And when was the Prophet (saaw) supposed to kill these two and for what crime?

What a stretch, abdul majid khoie strolls in from london, brings the baathi stooge along to the shrine with him and expects to just have the keys given to him, all the time whilst espousing pro occupation theories and you want to blame Muqtada for his reckless behaviour?

Khoie did not deserve to die, as mob rule is not what Islam is about, but he, admittely like many exiles, misjudged the iraqi mood. Muqtada and his people lived under the torture and rape and murder the whole time so his follwers were rightfully peeved. Yes, Muqatada could have done more, but then many people could have done more. It is a long step to say he could have done more and then say he killed him himself, as others have said.

Either way the fact remains that the sons of sadr city are the reason Imam Musa Kadhim's shrine is still standing and why baghdad is not 100% sunni.

BTW i am not saying that BECAUSE they killed one they saved three million. i said they MAY have killed one but ALSO saved 3 million. Hence the good outweighs the bad. The two acts are not linked, unlike your confusing example.

Having the keys? Are we having romours again. As a matter of fact that mob which entered the shrine wanted to kill Hayder Al-Killidar who the Sadrists call Ba3thi but unsurprisingly forget about Muqtada Al-Sadr's own father. Sayed Abdul Majid Al-Khoei was killed as a result of trying to convince the Sadrists that a shrine is a holy place and you can not kill people inside the shrines no matter who they are. But did the Sadrists care about the shrine!? I believe no! Furthermore the killing of Sayed Abdul Majid Al-Khoei was carried out under the direct order of Muqtada Al-Sadr and hence the arrest warrant issued for him.

Its ironic you are talking about Baghdad but all you need to do is look at the videos in Karbala.

wallahu a3lam

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