Sajdah on cotton

[Azadar-e-Ali]

Is it permissible to do sajdah on cotton?

[dingdong]

If I were in a desperate situation I would because pure cotton is something which comes out of the ground.

[*Love AhleBayt*]

Sajda is not permissble on the things which you can wear.

Its not allowed to do sajdah on cotton.

If you dont have the turbah and have noway, you can pray on the floor which is pure, i.e. sand.

Sajdah can only be done on an earth surface.

[_zahra]

you also perform sajdah on tissue...

[Their slave]

If I were in a desperate situation I would because pure cotton is something which comes out of the ground.

Salam alykom brother

Are you a scholar?

[*Love AhleBayt*]

you also perform sajdah on tissue...

You cant now. As we dont know from what has been used to make those tissue papers.

We have the book of Ayatuallah Sistani in Urdu which my mom reads, in it, its written sajdah cannot be performed on anything of that kind.

And to the OP, please ask your Marja about this. As this issue is sensitive and its about obligations.

[*Love AhleBayt*]

1085. Sajdah should be performed on earth, and on those things which are not edible nor worn, and on things which grow from earth (e.g. wood and leaves of trees).

It is not permissible to perform Sajdah on things which are used as food or dress (e.g. wheat, barley and cotton etc.), or on things which are not considered to be parts of the earth (e.g. gold, silver, etc.). And in the situation of helplessness, asphalt and tar will have preference over other non-allowable things.

http://www.najaf.org/english/book/1/index.html

[dingdong]

Salam alykom brother

Are you a scholar?

No I am not. I just didnt remember the rulings so if I was in an unusual situation and didnt know what to do then I would. But now as the rulings ahve been posted I wouldnt.

[_zahra]

You cant now. As we dont know from what has been used to make those tissue papers.

We have the book of Ayatuallah Sistani in Urdu which my mom reads, in it, its written sajdah cannot be performed on anything of that kind.

And to the OP, please ask your Marja about this. As this issue is sensitive and its about obligations.

Oh wow ...:Hijabi:

I always do it...maybe syed fadhulllah has a different ruling?

[dingdong]

^I think I read a ruling that if the tissue is made of natural fibres, its permissible.

[strawberry]

Yah I've heard he does, and even Syed Khoei allowed sajdah on tissue, but Syed Sistani doesn't. Check again though.

[Jondab_Azdi]

Question: Is it permissible to do sajdah on writing paper and on paper tissues, especially, if is not known whether or not the raw material they are made of was from items on which sajdah is valid?

Answer: It is not permissible to do sajdah on paper tissues, only after ascertaining that they have been made from items on which sajdah is allowed; it is permissible to do sajdah on paper if it is made from material on which sajdah is allowed or from cotton or flax.

http://www.sistani.org/local.php?modules=n...d=5&cid=563

w/s

[dingdong]

ahhh great so all this time I had been doing sajdah on tissue papers. Now what? Do I have to repeat all the prayers? And what can I do sajdah on if I was outside my house?

[strawberry]

Use a turbah, or on normal paper. I really don't think you have to repeat your prayers.

[Their slave]

No I am not. I just didnt remember the rulings so if I was in an unusual situation and didnt know what to do then I would. But now as the rulings ahve been posted I wouldnt.

If you dont know the ruling you should remain silent brother instead of saying a fatwa. Because in our faith we are not allowed to put things out of our opinions or speak something we think it is in religion while it has nothing to do with the religion.

[Ali Askari]

Salam Dingdong,

To make it easy, I have in school and work turba whit me. I think that is the best way.

[dingdong]

^Walaikum Assalam

Normal paper is allowed? Secondly if I use a turbah the wahabbis will do God knows what not. :dry:

If you dont know the ruling you should remain silent brother instead of saying a fatwa. Because in our faith we are not allowed to put things out of our opinions or speak something we think it is in religion while it has nothing to do with the religion.

Please read my post again. I did not pass a fatwa. I said that if I was in a desperate situation (meaning no tawdee available and no turbah available) then I would pray on cotton because the ruling which I do remember is that its permissible to pray on things which come out of the ground.

Edited December 6, 2008 by dingdong

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because the ruling which I do remember is that its permissible to pray on things which come out of the ground.

You've remembered part of it (do sajda on the earth or that which grows from the earth). The other part though is that it be something which is neither eaten nor worn. Think about that, what natural fiber are clothes most often made from?

Edited December 6, 2008 by macisaac

[dingdong]

^Yeah that was the only part I was told at weekend classes. Actually a LOT of the stuff was not told to me. I was told half rulings. And yes I missed out on my wajibats for many years due to that. :dry:

[*Love AhleBayt*]

Your dont have to repeat your prayers as far as i know as you werent aware of it.

[dingdong]

^I was told that it is allowed. :unsure:

[*Love AhleBayt*]

^yea, even my dad use to pray on a tissue paper, but than we found out in a Majlis that its not allowed than we stopped.

Najaf.org is a great site, you can read the laws there, you will even get a faster answer from thier site, so you can ask Ayatuallah Sistani about it. Maybe he has some different explanation about it.

[strawberry]

Normal paper is allowed? Secondly if I use a turbah the wahabbis will do God knows what not. :dry:

You can do sajdah on normal paper, because it's made from something natural, and not eaten or worn. Praying on a turbah is good- most moderate sunnis wouldn't do anything; the most I've gotten is somebody asking me why I do sajdah on turbah, to which you can explain that you are doing sajdah on something natural, (not worldly) that the Prophet (s) did sajdah on earth, and that it's meant to be a reminder during the two sajdahs that we're made of earth and will return to it.

[dingdong]

^ah nice but isnt tissue paper also made from the same stuff normal paper is made from?

[*Love AhleBayt*]

As far as i know, in a situation where you have to pray and have no other thing, than you can pray on the floor if its pure, but cant pray on any other material.

You can ONLY do sajdah on the paper if you know its pure and is not made up pf anything else.

Edited December 6, 2008 by *Love AhleBayt*

[arshiraza]

How abt doing sajdah on the nails of ur thumbs??

[dingdong]

^I am not sure but the little bits and pieces I do remember (which mgiht be distorted and wrong now) is that praying on your hand/nails is only allowed as a last resort.

[strawberry]

You can ONLY do sajdah on the paper if you know its pure and is not made up pf anything else.

Okay so I know that praying on the plain printing paper is allowed coz I've seen one of Syed Sistani's representatives do that, so that makes things easier. He prolly assumed it's pure.

and I've asked about the nails because I did it once and I was told that it's only allowed when time is running short and there's absolutely nothing else to do sajdah on.

[*Love AhleBayt*]

^I am not sure but the little bits and pieces I do remember (which mgiht be distorted and wrong now) is that praying on your hand/nails is only allowed as a last resort.

Yea, thats abosuletly right. It is the last resort.

Okay so I know that praying on the plain printing paper is allowed coz I've seen one of Syed Sistani's representatives do that, so that makes things easier. He prolly assumed it's pure.

and I've asked about the nails because I did it once and I was told that it's only allowed when time is running short and there's absolutely nothing else to do sajdah on.

Yea thats right.

There is this book of Ayatuallah Sistani but thats in Urdu called Jadeed Masail, i duno if its available in Arabic. There are answers of all the questions. Its a great book, i just found the paper thing in it.