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Pak being blamed under a heinous intl conspiracy

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Finally a Pakistani leader sensed the real challenges facing the Pakistani nation.

It is always being said about Indo-zionist alliance and how hard they are trying to work together to cause unrest in SA/ME, cause sectarian conflicts and to weaken the Islamic countries and no body wanted to believe that...every day they even make deals and agreements with them like nothing is really going on..

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Mumbai terror doing of Bush-Zionsts-Hindus, Pak being blamed under a heinous intl conspiracy: Moosavi

By: Salman Alvi

RAWALPINDI, Pakistan: The Quaid-i-Millat-i-Jafariya Agha Syed Hamid Ali Shah Moosavi has said that Pakistan has been blamed for terrorism in India under a heinous international conspiracy which is a matter of concern and a condemnable act. He said Bush, Zionists and Hindus are behind this conspiracy so as to create an excuse to attack Pakistan and punish her for following Nazria-e-Asaasi (basic ideology - Islam) and being an atomic power.

This was stated by him while addressing a 51-member delegation of religious and Matmi organisation of Islamabad that called on him at the head of Allama Fakhar Abbas Abidi. He said Pakistan came into being in the name of Islam and is in the grip of terrorism since then the biggest proof of which is that its eastern arm was cut in 1971. He said everyone knows who was behind that tragedy and who had said that we have drowned the Two-Nation Theory in Bay of Bengal. He said despite all that we desired to extend friendship to all but it was taken as Pakistan’s weakness. He said the recent Indian incident is being named as the second 9/11 while Pakistan goes through 9/11 the day in and day out.

Agha Moosavi said that the decision to send ISI man on the demand of Indian Prime Minister should have been taken after consultation because such issues should have been tackled by our mission in that country. This step is tantamount to non-trust on international style of ambassadorism and making embassies ineffective. To whom our rulers desire to make happy? They should never forget that people have elected them for Pakistan's safety, integrity, defense and supremacy of its honour and dignity.

He said Pakistan has displayed large-heartedness by extending all type of support to India but was this justified after India labelling a huge accusation on Pakistan? He asked India whether they would send chiefs of Indian agencies to investigate incidents of terrorism taken place in Pakistan in general and in Sarhad province in particular in the light of clear-cut proof of Indian involvement.

He said there is a saying of the Amirul Momineen Hazrat Ali Ibne Abi Talib (A.S.) which goes: Become enemy of the oppressor and become helpful to the oppressed. In the light of that saying, he added, we strongly condemn oppression and strongly condemn the open act of terrorism in India while express our sympathies with the bereaved families and the affected. He said we had also condemned 9/11 and in reply Iraq and Afghanistan were destructed and Pakistan is being given the gifts of missile attacks by the allied forces.

The TNFJ chief said that Islam is a great and complete religion based on justice and fair-play. He said there is a saying of the Maula-e-Kainaat Ali Ibne Abi Talib (A.S.) that goes: Islam is a religion that is based on righteousness and truthfulness and it is the source of that knowledge from which streams of wisdom are derived and this is the candle that lits many candles and is a high-rise minaret that enlightens the way to Allah.

He said the whole life of the Paighambar-e-Islam (SAAW) stands witness that he always condemned aggression, war, arson, riot and preached peace, justice and fair-play and always given preference to peace and tranquillity over war and conflict on which Meesaq-e-Madinah and Sulah-e-Hudaibia (Medinah and Hudaibia Pact) stand witness. And he even said to this extent while addressing to whole humanity: O sons of Adam! Your blood, your wealth and your honour have been made haraam (prohibited) for one another".

The Quaid-i-Millat-i-Jafariya Agha Moosavi said the nation is going through a critical moment at present, therefore, the government and all patriotic forces should give their personal and party differences and give priority to the integrity and survival of the nation and the country.

He said the whole nation would side with the government if she adopts a courageous point of view after consulting all sections of society and take effective steps for the protection of the motherland.

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good , we need more clear headed statements by Shi'a leadership - and even take the lead in defending Pakistan against this India-Zio-Americans (India is, for all practical purposes, now in the Zionist-American orbit - and acts entirely in concert with their agenda).

The people of Pakistan know the reality, but India's Hindu population is one of the most Islamophobic in the world - even more so than the US:

"Non-Muslims of India are on top of the list as having the most negative view towards Muslims, with 67% (second to Nigeria) associating Muslims with violence, 58% arrogant, 64% selfish, 55% greedy, and 50% immoral."

http://almusawwir.org/2007/10/31/india-and...slim-attitudes/

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Things are set to get much much worse in Pakistan and Afghanistan with this latest operation looking like its achieved the purpose it was designed to do. The holes in the emerging 'official blame' story are so obvious and the lies crystal clear - yet, I really don't think the powers behind the attacks really care at this point how much their cover is blown. They are almost like programmed machines. As you said, bro, we're going to need more clear and forceful statements from the leadership so that the population will have the chance to not be swept away with what is going to be unleashed. :(

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The holes in the emerging 'official blame' story are so obvious and the lies crystal clear - yet, I really don't think the powers behind the attacks really care at this point how much their cover is blown.

Thats precisely it. They know we are fragmented and redundant save a few. And those few are the final targets in their equation namely the breakup of Pakistan, destruction of Iran and Hezbollah. Alas we live in such days where shia muslims are saying "oh well let the Iraqis decide on SOFA".

Its also good to see a shia pakistani bold enough to make those statements but maybe the ISI spooks on this forum will come out all guns blazing....lol

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check out this excellent analyses by Zaid Hamid --- where he points out that the terrorist whose picture is being shown all over is wearing an orange/saffron colored string, bracelet of some sort around his wrist...

http://www.shiatv.net/view_video.php?viewk...d31c8cd58b5d995

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I believe, he is right on most of the issues... And I agree this guy is not looking like a Paki Muslim or even an Indian Muslim at all.

It was something preplanned to accuse Pakistan and then go for a war having the back ups of the West, especially the US. But, somehow it went wrong...after 911 almost every Israeli ally using such tactics to find an excuse when they feel powerful to go after their archenemies.

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Aint free speech wonderful....lol

Sleepy village baffled by link to captured terrorist

A sleepy village in Pakistan has found itself at the centre of the Mumbai terror plot, leaving locals bewildered.

Faridkot, a settlement in the south of the Punjab province, has been overrun by Pakistani intelligence agents and police for the past three days after it was reported by Indian officials that the lone gunman captured alive in Mumbai came from a place called Faridkot.

Agents from Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) were still questioning locals yesterday.

"All the agencies have been here and the (police) special branch," said village elder Mehboob Khan Daha. "We have become very worried. What's this all about?"

A dusty backwater, the inhabitants are peasant farmers who own small parcels of land and are poorly educated. Water buffalo and goats roam the dirt tracks of the village.

Men sit around gossiping on traditional woven rope beds, placed out in the open, wearing the usual baggy shalwar kameez pyjama suits, some with turbans. Roughly built small brick homes and little mud huts are dotted around the village, which has a population of about 3,000. It is 34 miles east from the nearest large city, Multan.

"There are no jihadis here," said Ijaz Ahmed, 41. "I can think of maybe 10 or 20 people here who have even been as far as Multan."

The Faridkot link is a key plank of India's accusations against Pakistan. The captured gunman, variously named as Ajmal Amir Kamal, Azam Amir Kasav or Azam Ameer Qasab, is said to come from Faridkot, which is described as being near Multan. He is said to speak fluent English and a clear photograph of him shows a young man in western clothes. Shown a picture of the alleged militant, Daha said: "That's a smart-looking boy. We don't have that sort around here."

In Faridkot, no one appeared to be able to speak much English; most could only converse in a dialect of the provincial language. None of the villagers recognised the face in the photograph.

They said the intelligence agents wanted to know if there was any presence of the radical Deobandi or Al-Hadith religious movements in the village, to which they were told "no". The agents mentioned five names, villagers said, including Ajmal, Amir, Kamal and Azam, all common names in Pakistan. There were five Ajmals in the village, all present except one who is living in provincial capital Lahore, and none fitted the description of the militant. The Azam in the village is a 75-year-old retired railway worker.

One of the Ajmals, a man who thought he was about 30, has worked in a nearby tea factory for the past 12 years, he said. The police and intelligence agencies have been asking his whereabouts.

"All I ever do is go to work, which is about 3km away. I have never been beyond Kanewal (the closest town)," said Muhammad Ajmal. "I'm uneducated."

Faridkot lies in a part of Punjab known for extremist activity but the village itself did not show any signs of being a hotbed of militancy. Written on a board at the entrance to the village mosque, it is declared that members of the hardline Tablighi Jamaat "are not permitted".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/0...gunman-faridkot

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I've been watching pakistani media, and one good thing about all of this is that I don't think anyone in Pakistan is buying the Indian version of events. Along with lots of other mistakes, the Indian regime's direct accusation of Pakistan is seriously backfiring 'cause they have not presented any proof, and what proof they have presented is turning out to be serious nonsense.

So while the zio-western and some of the Indian media is going bezerk with its accusations of Pakistan (suits their political purposes) - Pakistanis appear to have gotten more intelligent and are taking a critical reading of these events.

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Why is it hard to believe the existence of crazy terrorist who blow people/civilians and claim he is doing it for his religion (Islam)?

Terrorism is a real and a serious issue. Some muslims just don't wanna admit they have this problem.

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^

some Jews, Xtians, Americans, Hindus etc. seem to have the same problem - except that they don't seem to be trashed like Muslims are... nor are members of their communities so quick to pass blame on their own without proof --- of-course, even amongst Muslims now there is a growing sense of skepticism that the word's terror is not something we have to take the entire responsibility for --- Of-course there are some Muslims (such as like yourself) who indeed are quick to blame Muslims without any proof - and such Muslims indeed do have a problem.

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Why is it hard to believe the existence of crazy terrorist who blow people/civilians and claim he is doing it for his religion (Islam)?

Terrorism is a real and a serious issue. Some muslims just don't wanna admit they have this problem.

That is not the point. Terrorism is real, terrorists do exist and they believe they are doing for good and serving their religion in most cases, in Islamic countries.

The point here is that, who is using these terrorists? How they get organized? How their cells are activated in certain manner of times and place? Do all the members, ORGANIZERS, fund raisers, and sympathizers of these terrorist are Muslim? or at least believe as those guys who blow themselves up?

There could be people or parties who wanted to take action, BUT, how it was done and who is trying to create excuses might have some other backers.

And I hope they fail to achieve whatever they wanted to.

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Why is it hard to believe the existence of crazy terrorist who blow people/civilians and claim he is doing it for his religion (Islam)?

Terrorism is a real and a serious issue. Some muslims just don't wanna admit they have this problem.

Ali Akhbar

Where are those that will stand up for the religion and distance themselves from these perverted, morally bankrupt, cruel and subhuman Muslim terrorists that defile our religion and humanity. Zareen is right that we should not be making excuses for Muslim terrorists.

I know that these boys will not get the virgins they so desperately wanted (and were no doubt promised by their brainwashers) when they get to the afterlife. The noble one will judge them harshly as should we.

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"...the story coming out of the Indian government is frankly incredible. The terrorists left a satellite phone conveniently placed next to the body of their ship's captain, whose throat they had slit, with the numbers of their handlers stored in memory. Very convenient. Even less convincing, however, is the assertion that even after Ajmal Kasab, the lone survivor of the terror squad, had been captured, he continued to get messages from his handlers. That little embellishment, I believe, gives the show away. Add to this the oddly unprepared – indeed, criminally negligent – role of the Indian security apparatus, and the whole thing reeks to high heaven. "Fishy" is putting it mildly."

The pressure to cement an Indo-American alliance has been growing for quite some time and is slated to accelerate. India's special relationship with Israel, for one thing, is second only to our own. For another, President-elect Obama's promise to escalate the war in Afghanistan and even spread it into Pakistan is congruent with the plans of India's War Party, which is waiting in the wings to take the reins and confront Islamabad.

The argument that we must end the war in Iraq so that we can concentrate on the "real" enemy, the amorphous and exaggerated al-Qaeda, which is supposedly hiding in the wilds of Pakistan's tribal areas, is leading to an even wider, more open-ended conflict, one so combustible that it could spark a nuclear exchange between Pakistan and India.

As bad as George W. Bush was, he never messed up that badly. One can almost hear the collective sigh of relief now that we are approaching the day when an easily-manipulated ignoramus is no longer in charge of American foreign policy. What may be even more dangerous, however, is a very smart president who thinks he and his advisers know more than they actually do.

The strategic shift in the balance of U.S. military forces in the region, away from Iraq and eastward to Afghanistan and Pakistan, seems almost to have been conceived in order to confirm the complaints of the anti-American forces in the region that the U.S. and its allies have launched a crusade to eliminate Islam from the map. From this perspective the pattern is clear enough: having exhausted their efforts in Iraq, now the West strikes from a different direction, in alliance with India. At the geographic center of it all, you'll note, sits Iran, which can look forward to being surrounded on both sides.

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=13848

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