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Okay I just figured out that some boys that are young can produce breast milk. I was just talking to this person and he was laughing at how his brother just drank milk, and I said okay? He said breast milk and I said okay, I never knew your brother was a baby. He says his brother is 8 and he says he drank his own breast milk. And I'm like what :blink:?! Then he said it's a common phenomenon in boys sometimes uptil 7 years old. Please someone tell me he is playing a late April Fools prank on me?

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I dont know about like, uptil 7 years old.

But I remember this massager woman, she was telling my that new born babies have breast milk... and that if the mil isnt squeezed out (when theyre still like 1 week or 2 weeks old) then they'll have manboobs when they grow up.

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Okay I just figured out that some boys that are young can produce breast milk. I was just talking to this person and he was laughing at how his brother just drank milk, and I said okay? He said breast milk and I said okay, I never knew your brother was a baby. He says his brother is 8 and he says he drank his own breast milk. And I'm like what :blink:?! Then he said it's a common phenomenon in boys sometimes uptil 7 years old. Please someone tell me he is playing a late April Fools prank on me?

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:lol: get prepared to get shocked out of ur skin cuz there are a few incidents, at the time of puberty during which boys as well as girls experience a rise in estrogen levels, though of course not as pronounced, some boys can experience swelling and soreness of the breast with an associated discharge upon physical stimulation or self manipulation.

Some of the better known conditions leading to galactorrhea ( the medical term for milk discharge) in men are prolactin-producing tumours (of the pituitary gland) and liver cirrhoses, a condition in which the normal degradation of male estrogens is impaired.

http://www.aafp.org/afp/20040801/543.html

Thorazine, an antipsychotic drug employed in the mid-20th century, affected the pituitary gland, inducing high levels of prolactin and a heart drug named digoxin also induces lactation. Other drugs like Phenothiazines, Metaclopromide, Domperidone, estrogen (or phytoestrogens), prolactin, fenugreek, and blessed thistle, all can contribute to initiating and then maintaining lactation in a male (or in a female who has not recently given birth for that matter).

Also-- > http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=14...ytype=printable

I dont know about like, uptil 7 years old.

But I remember this massager woman, she was telling my that new born babies have breast milk... and that if the mil isnt squeezed out (when theyre still like 1 week or 2 weeks old) then they'll have manboobs when they grow up.

=/

Its called "witch's milk" - the expecting mother is laden with the hormone estrogen which passes the placenta and does the same work in the breasts of the fetuses/newborns as it does in the mother---> It leads them to mature and produce milk. This phenomenon is not that common and as the maternal estrogen is degraded and not replenished after birth, it usually wears off after a few days.

The term witch's milk comes from the time where any apparently unusual or abnormal phenomenon would be attributed to the actions of "witchcraft".

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:lol:

This is a very interesting discussion.

Akbar, what percentage of children experience this "witch's milk" phenomenon? Does it pose potential risks or symptoms of any sort?

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This is a very interesting discussion.

Akbar, what percentage of children experience this "witch's milk" phenomenon? Does it pose potential risks or symptoms of any sort?

About 80 percent newborns secrete a tiny quanitity by the 3rd day.... its a harmless discharge from the rudimentary milk glands present in both boy and girl babies at birth and rapidly disappears in a couple of weeks and thats the end of it.

Doesn't pose any risk at all but its better not to squeeze the breasts/nipples as this may cause a few bacteria to enter and start an infection in the breast.

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Boys having breast milk? :sick:

I know boys in the newer generation are starting to have more and more feminine characteristics, physique and behavior.

I wonder what's next? Boys using maxy pads? :blink:

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^^

Advertise!! Spread the good word! More importantly, you need to clearly delineate the incentives that would attract such business partners in the first place. Also, mention any prerequisites like which gender the business partners must belong to? :lol:

Needless to say, it should be a win-win situation for all parties involved -_- IMHO.

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Advertise!! Spread the good word! More importantly, you need to clearly delineate the incentives that would attract such business partners in the first place. Also, mention any prerequisites like which gender the business partners must belong to? :lol:

Needless to say, it should be a win-win situation for all parties involved -_- IMHO.

Lol - No worries my bro. I will PM you all the specs including the ISO standards. Dont want to openly publicise the details lest i get relegated as persona non grata. :Hijabi:

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Okay I just figured out that some boys that are young can produce breast milk. I was just talking to this person and he was laughing at how his brother just drank milk, and I said okay? He said breast milk and I said okay, I never knew your brother was a baby. He says his brother is 8 and he says he drank his own breast milk. And I'm like what :blink:?! Then he said it's a common phenomenon in boys sometimes uptil 7 years old. Please someone tell me he is playing a late April Fools prank on me?

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I've seen teens with swollen breasts and some teens who actually produce 'milk'. Its rather a watery milk, not similar to the one produced by women. Such things are common sense. I was never advised by anyone that it is bad. But by instinct and by common human nature, I know and realise that its disgusting.

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Boys, boys, boys!!! So much for gender roles. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_lactation

Fromthe TALMUD!

The Talmud contains an interesting passage on male lactation (from a 1918 translation:

The rabbis taught: "It happened with one man whose wife died and left him a nursing child, he was so poor that he could not pay a wet-nurse. A miracle happened to him; his breasts opened and he nursed his child." Said R. Joseph: Come and see how great the man must have been that such a miracle was wrought for him. Said Abayi to him: On the contrary, Behold how bad the man must have been that the nature of mankind changed in him and nothing occurred to enable him to earn enough money to pay a nurse. Says R. Jehudah: Come and see how hard it is for heaven to change the fate of a man concerning his livelihood, that the nature of the world was changed, but not his fate. Said R. Na'hman: It is proven by this fact that a miracle occurred, but he was not provided with means for paying a wet-nurse.

Check out this
There's a youtube video posted on the site for those interested in seeing a man breastfeed and pump hahaha.

I first became interested in male lactation in 1978 after reading Dana Raphael's book, The Tender Gift: Breastfeeding. Although Raphael only dealt with the subject briefly, she did say that men can and have produced milk after stimulating their nipples.

While my husband David had no interest in nursing our son, we both were intrigued with the idea. We had just had our first

unassisted homebirth and were excited about applying our positive thinking techniques to other aspects of our lives. Although Raphael had written about milk production through nipple stimulation, perhaps, we thought, David could do it simply through suggestion. He began telling himself that he would lactate, and within a week, one of his breasts swelled up and milk began dripping out. When we excitedly showed my father (a physician) David's breast he said, "Obviously there's something physiologically wrong with David." The fact that David had willed himself to do this, did not impress him. We knew, however, that this was yet another example of the power of the mind.

Still, we were not ready for David to actually breastfeed our baby. First of all, there was no need for it. I was doing just fine on my own. But more importantly, he simply had no desire to do it. After he discovered that his body had indeed been responsive to his thoughts, he suggested to himself that the lactation would stop, and within a week his breast returned to normal. The experiment had been a success.

We didn't give it much thought after that until years later when I came across a short article called "Male Lactation" by Professor Patty Stuart Macadam of the Department of Anthropology at the University of Toronto (Compleat Mother, Fall, 1996, Volume 43).

It is possible, and has been observed in animals and humans. In 1992, 18 Dayak fruit bats were captured from a rainforest in the Krau Game Reserve, Pahang, Malaysia. Of the 10 mature males captured, each had functional mammary glands from which small amounts of milk were expressed. A breast is a breast. Male lactation is physiologically possible and, according to Dr. Robert Greenblatt, production in males can be stimulated by letting a baby suckle for several weeks. Indeed some human males secrete milk at birth and at puberty.
Historically, male lactation was noted by the German explorer Alexander Freiherr von Humboldt prior to 1859, who wrote of a 32-year-old man who breastfed his child for five months. It was also observed in a 55-year-old Baltimore man who had been the wetnurse of the children of his mistress.

My interest in male lactation was piqued again when I recently received the following letter from a friend of mine.

I knew these two wonderful guys, very dear friends of mine for years. A mutual acquaintance of ours was pregnant, unplanned, and did not want to do the whole "adoption thing" so when the guys approached her about taking the baby, they just proceeded as if it had been a planned surrogate pregnancy. The guys were adamant that the baby should get breastmilk. So when she was in her 7th month we bought a really good quality breastpump and Ian started pumping, every 2 hours during the day and once during the night. He was wonderful about it! He used an SNS (supplimental nursing system) after she was born, with donated milk from several friends who were nursing. He was making milk but not a full supply. By the time the baby was 12 weeks old he was making a full milk supply! He stayed at home with the baby (he was a massage therapist) and nursed her exclusively until she was 8 months old!! I don't think many people outside their intimate circle knew about it, I'm sure folks would have had a fit if they'd known...but I thought it was wonderful!

While reading my friend's letter, I suddenly remembered my mother telling me years ago that as an infant I once tried to nurse on my father. I laughed about it at the time, yet I'm sure it is a fairly common occurrence. Babies want to be loved, nursed, and nurtured. The gender of the person doing it is not important.

On the other hand, I think it is safe to say that women are better suited to breastfeeding than men are. They generally produce milk soon after birth, with little or no nipple stimulation. If a mother is completely out of the picture, however, as in the case of adoption, or a mother goes back to work and a baby is left in the care of its father, for some families male breastfeeding might be an acceptable alternative to formula bottles and pacifiers.

For those who claim male lactation is "unnatural," I would have to ask: how natural is canned formula from Nestle' or pacifiers made from petrolium byproducts? If milk production in men were truly unnatural, it wouldn't exist. The fact that it does, leads me to believe that perhaps male lactation is simply nature's back-up system. In any case, it's an interesting phenomenon.

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No offense but I admit that I was expecting participation by brother Haji2003 in this thread. @)

(Knowing that he's been vigorously investigating the more "unnatural" phenomenon found among the human race.)

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