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I am following your posts brother .

Yes the red sea has two horns , Assuis gulf and al aqaba gulf .

Salam.

Would those 'two horns' or 'Qar-nayn' qualify as the Qur'anic "Bahra" ?

Or 'Buhayra'... ?

Anyhow, in the weblink I posted in an earlier thread, these particular excerpts really caught my interest :

Now, in 2004, we have several French researchers who claim they have located the real, hidden burial chamber in the Great Pyramid of Khufu, which will hold all of his undisturbed burial equipment, if only they could drill a few holes to verify their claims. The search for hidden chambers continues, and will probably do so for some time in the future.

Somewhat widely reported in the news of late, a French team consisting of Dormion and Jean-Yves Verd'hurt claim that a fourth, undiscovered room lies underneath the pyramid's so-called Queen's Chamber and insist that it is likely the burial chamber for the Egyptian Pharaoh, also known as Cheops, even though a damaged sarcophagus was found in the upper chamber known as the King's Chamber. They believe that, were this room to be discovered, it would perhaps never have been violated, and would probably contain the king's remains. To their credit, they have been working in the pyramids of Egypt for 20 years, and their radar analyses in another pyramid, at Meidum, led in 2000 to the discovery of two previously undetected rooms.

This is really not a new story, but rather an older one now brought back into the limelight due to publicity surrounding a book that has just been published by the pair.

Gilles Dormion and Jean-Yves Verd'hurt first set out to probe the mysteries of the Great Pyramid in 1986, returning in 1998. Using a technique called microgravimetry to measure the density of materials, they believe that they have discovered a cavity underneath the Queen's Chamber and evidence that the stone tiling had been moved at some point.

Using radar technology, Japanese investigators also confirmed a cavity a few meters wide. The French team suggest this is a corridor leading to a further chamber in the belly of the pyramid, which could be the real burial chamber. They believe that none of the pyramid's three existing rooms qualify as a royal burial chamber. Indeed, most Egyptologists do not believe that the Queen's Chamber or the Subterranean chamber are burial chambers.

The French team, however, suggests that the King's Chamber, currently believed by most Egyptologists to be at least the initial resting place of the king, also could not be a burial chamber because it is not strong enough, and they point to deep cracks in the massive granite blocks that form the chamber ceiling. Indeed, even some scholars believe that the cracks in the chamber's ceiling may have developed even before the pyramid was put to its intended use, and question its final use as a burial chamber, though most seem to believe that it was built for that purpose. However, even those who believe that the chamber was never put to use believe that Khufu may have been buried elsewhere rather than in another, hidden chamber.

One respected Egyptologist, Jean-Pierre Corteggiani, of the French Institute of Oriental Archaeology in Cairo, was impressed by their work from the start. What first struck him, he said, was that the georadar images were collected and interpreted by a non-Egyptologist, Jean-Pierre Baron, of Safege, a French company that specializes in georadar.

"This specialist works for a company, one of whose main projects is to lay out the future TGV [express train] route from Paris to Strasbourg," said Mr Corteggiani. "If he says it is safe to lay the rails here, because there is no cavity under the ground here, he'd better be right. If not, the death toll will be very high."

Mr Corteggiani was also intrigued by the location of the proposed room, which is said to be under the so-called Queen's Chamber, but further west, which would place it "at the cross-section of the diagonals and the absolute heart of the pyramid", a possibly symbolic resting place for Khufu.

Mr Corteggiani brought Mr Dormion and Mr Verd'hurt's ideas to the attention of Nicolas Grimal, who holds the chair in Egyptology at the Collège de France. Mr Grimal was sufficiently impressed to write the preface to Mr Dormion's book, La Chambre de Chéops that if the findings are confirmed, they represent "without doubt, one of the greatest discoveries in Egyptology".

However, when the two present their conclusions to an international congress of Egyptologists in Grenoble in a week's time (September 6-12, 2004), they are likely to meet with more skepticism.

"The idea that Khufu's burial chamber is still to be found in the pyramid I find unbelievable," said Aidan Dodson, an expert in Egyptian funerary archaeology at the University of Bristol. "Architecturally there is no reason why there should be a corridor underneath the queen's room. The burial chamber has always been known."

The two Frenchmen have come up with a hypothesis that challenges one of the most popular theories about the Great Pyramid: that its internal structure was conceived in advance and built as planned. However, while this hypothesis is popular, there are many Egyptologists who, for many years, have questioned its validity.

Mr. Dormion and Mr. Verd'hurt argue that the pyramid evolved by trial and error, as the architects saw that rooms initially conceived as burial chambers would not take the weight placed on top of them, and went back to the drawing-board.

Above the King's Chamber, whose roof is reinforced with granite beams weighing 50 tons each, they built in an ingenious system of relieving chambers or cavities.

"The idea was to deflect the weight of the masonry over the core of the pyramid away from those roofing beams and out to the sides," said Jeffrey Spencer, deputy keeper of the British Museum's department of ancient Egypt and Sudan.

But the granite beams are cracked - faults that Mr. Spencer said had traditionally been put down to earthquake activity long after the pyramid was completed. Mr. Dormion argues instead that "this accident occurred during the building of the pyramid, in the sight and to the knowledge of the builders".

He points to traces of 4,500-year-old plaster in the cracks - evidence, he believes, of attempts to shore up the roof.

"At the end of the day," Mr. Dormion writes, "the entire problem of the Great Pyramid can be summed up by this theory: Khufu had three funeral chambers built for himself. The first remained unfinished, the second was available and the third cracked. Khufu was therefore interred in the second."

Or rather beneath the second, because the Queen's Chamber itself was not equipped to receive a dead king - lacking, most notably, an entrance wide enough to accommodate the stone sarcophagus Khufu ordered for himself.

Dormion and Verd'hurt believe that an investigation could be non-intrusive. According to them, "...one would simply have to pass a fiber optic cable down through existing holes in the stone, to see if there are portcullis blocks in the corridor below," said Mr Verd'hurt. "Then it will be necessary to enter the front part of the corridor and penetrate the room, taking all precautions to ensure that it is not contaminated."

We must wonder how, exactly, Mr. Dormion and Mr. Verd'hurt have come to the conclusion that there is not simply another sand cavity beneath the Queens Chamber. However, the question of finding answers to these mysteries will probably not come directly from them, as their request to further investigate their findings have been denied by the SCA under the direction of Dr. Zahi Hawass.

Therefore, when two French amateur archaeologists claim to have located the secret burial chamber of Khufu in the Great Pyramid at Giza, it is little wonder that the SCA, under Dr. Hawass' leadership, refused to grant them permission to further their investigations. Gilles Dormion is an architect, while Jean-Yves Verd'hurt is a retired property agent. In refusing them permission to investigate the Great Pyramid further, Dr. Hawass is simply following the rules laid out by the SCA under his direction.

Not that this would necessarily preclude the French Team from operating under the control of a recognized institution. However, Dr. Hawass apparently believes that the investigation would require the drilling of holes. When he turned down the French team's request, he stated that he had consulted with two prominent archeologists, German Rainer Stadelmann and American Mark Lehner, both very well known Egyptologists and specialists on Pyramids in general and the Great Pyramid specifically, and all three "decided that we can't let just anyone make holes in the pyramids" based only on the data we now have".

Apparently, the evidence surrounding the French team's findings are somewhat more questionable than their news releases might indicate, but if their findings are sound, we will doubtless hear much more about all of this in the coming months. On the other hand, we have found that frequently, such headline news simply disappears if the research turns up faulty. So, one way or the other, time, always on the side of the Great Pyramid, will tell.

Amin.

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I am following your posts brother .

Yes the red sea has two horns , Assuis gulf and al aqaba gulf .

Salam.

More on Gilles Dormion and Jean-Yves Verd'hurt vs. Dr. Zahi Hawass and the SCA :

http://www.cite-sciences.fr/francais/ala_c...id_article=3343

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/secretchambers4.htm

http://www.keysofenoch.com/html/new_rooms.html

http://pagesperso-orange.fr/joel.donnet/News145.htm

P.S. : A correction to an earlier post of mine ... Pharaoh Pepi II of Egypt, who reigned from around 2294 B.C. to about 2220 B.C., had the longest known reign of any monarch (74 years).

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Aleikumessalam,

Would those 'two horns' or 'Qar-nayn' qualify as the Qur'anic "Bahra" ?

Or 'Buhayra'... ?

The qarnain of the red sea seems like two horns in the map only .

Bahr = ocean , sea bahr ,river nahr . Egyptian are still calling nile river a sea bahr .

Buhairah = Lake .

Bahrain = when river meets the sea as Rasheed and dimiat meets the white sea mediterranian sea or afratus and dijlah meet the arabian or persian gulf .

Some searchers say the exudos was from Assuis gulf and others say was in al aqaba gulf .

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Aleikumessalam,

The qarnain of the red sea seems like two horns in the map only .

Bahr = ocean , sea bahr ,river nahr . Egyptian are still calling nile river a sea bahr .

Buhairah = Lake .

Bahrain = when river meets the sea as Rasheed and dimiat meets the white sea mediterranian sea or afratus and dijlah meet the arabian or persian gulf .

Some searchers say the exudos was from Assuis gulf and others say was in al aqaba gulf .

Salam.

I follow the extremely few scholars who believe it was the Mediterranean Sea : The Sea of Reeds or The Reed Sea.

I already elaborated my step-by-by scenario of the crossing and drowning at the Easternmost branch of the Nile Delta by Port Said...Where the Nile branch or tributary flows out to the Mediterranean.

And as you stated, the Egyptians STILL call the Nil (Nile) BAHRA...Maybe Allah Taala relates it from THEIR perspective also...

Anyhow, I hope you and others who are interested had a chance to thoroughly go through the weblinks I posted about Dormion & Verd'hurt and their struggle with Dr. Hawass and the SCA...

Since Dr. Hawass gets about 300 or so manuscripts of all types at his desk per week, by the time he gets to mine it might be 2016 if he even makes it through ALL of them...

There are just as many enthusiasts as myself about Ancient Egyptian history and searches for hidden chambers, tombs, etc...

I know that Dr. Hawass removed his personal email from his website because of the overwhelming responses he has received...

After all, Dr. Hawass is a SUPERSTAR of Egyptology. I managed to find out a couple of email links to him which I hope he is still using which I have also emailed my manuscript to him. I also mailed him a hard copy some months back at his Zamalek office.

I will have to wait and have sabr, Inshallah...

He is set to come on a lecturing tour to the U.S. in October but I will not be able to attend...

I know he is no snob, he is quite approachable...

But I was disappointed in Dr. Salima Ikram's response to me...I thought she would see something spectacular in my theory...As far as I know, most Qur'anic scholars have always borrowed from Judeo-Christian accounts regarding the Exodus story. NO ONE has even mentioned Khufu (Cheops) as a possible candidate for the Pharaoh of the Oppression and Exodus.

Inshallah, someday my theory might be realized...Only Allah Rabbil Alamin knows the facts or what will happen...

I would really like it see if Dormion and Verd'hurt get their chance to conclude their theory of Khufu's possible undisturbed burial chamber...

But Dr. Hawass' animosity toward them (somewhat justified due to their showboating method of promoting their theory) has to subside sometime in the future. Their relationship with the previous SCA secretary general was much better...

Amin.

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Aleikumessalam,

Some searchers say the exudos was from Assuis gulf and others say was in al aqaba gulf .

Salam.

Here are excerpts from an article from Dr. Hawass' Plateau Website entitled :

The Three Secret Doors and the Magician Djedi

By Zahi Hawass

I never thought we would find anything behind the door discovered 64 metres inside the south shaft of the Great Pyramid in 1993 by Rudolf Gantenbrink. I said nothing would be discovered behind this door: I believed it was only a block with nothing behind it. But when we used the ultrasonic equipment and learnt that the thickness of the door was only 6cm, I said that this was a surprise and there must be something there.

would like to suggest that these doors hide Khufu's real burial chamber, and the bending in the north shaft was there to avoid the Grand Gallery. This means that the two shafts were carved after the construction of the Great Pyramid. We know the ancient Egyptians tried very hard to hide the tombs by blocking the burial chambers with huge blocks or making the Pyramid entrance so narrow that no one could enter. They also wrote curse inscriptions to try to stop anyone who wanted to enter and disturb the tombs of the Pharaohs.

About 900 years after the reign of Khufu we have a story called "Khufu and the Magician". It tells the story of how Khufu brought the magician Djedi to ask him about the secret documents of the god Thoth, the god of wisdom, so he could design his Pyramid. Djedi knew everything about the secret chambers of Thoth, but he did not reveal the secret. I therefore believe that the burial chambers were hidden behind these doors.

If we look at the copper handles of the two doors we see that the handles are similar to the handles on the canopic jars of Tutankhamun, and the ancient Egyptians used to tie rope to these handles to pull the jars. It seems that the architect then hid the burial chamber of the Pharaoh. He sealed it with these doors and closed the shaft completely so no one could see or know anything. The mystery of the Great Pyramid started then, and this year, 2002, is the beginning of revealing this mystery.

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Judging from this Hawass article excerpt, I wonder if part of Dr. Hawass' opposition to Gilles Dormion and his proposal to penetrate below the Queen's Chamber of the Great Giza Pyramid of Khufu is that maybe Dr. Hawass wants to be the one to discover Khufu's possible yet undiscovered hidden burial chamber ...

It is understandable if this is so ...

Inshallah, whomsoever actually ends up possibly discovering Khufu's undiscovered burial chamber, I wonder what their reaction will be if Khufu does turn out to be the Firawn of the Holy Qur'an and the Pharaoh of the Exodus ?

Only Allah Ta'ala knows ...

Wa Salam.

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I always taught that Firaun of Quran was Ramses II, anyways...this ^ could be true...

Maybe that's why they aligned the pyramids with the stars...to ascend and see God better...Lol :lol: ...Astaghfirullah...

Salam.

These article excerpts from Alan Winston on Khufu's Pyramid are part of my theoretical explanation of the Qur'anic verses in which Allah Ta'ala relates how Firawn[Khufu] ordered Haman[Hemiunu] to build him a lofty tower so he could "obtain knowledge of Musa's God...And deem Musa a liar." :

Certainly unclear in significance, but today one of the primary focuses of continuing investigation in the Pyramid's internal structure, are the two narrow shafts, averaging about twenty by twenty centimeters, that begin in the north and south walls of the chamber and climb steeply upwards. These shafts are not entirely straight, as some might believe. For example the north shaft in the Queen's Chamber bends after about seventeen meters. Some experts think that these are ventilation shafts, while others would see an astronomical function. The north shaft is aligned with the the circumpolar stars Minoris, Ursa and Beta, while the south shaft is aligned with Sirius. Still other people think they may have served some unknown religious purpose.

These objects, along with the robots' discoveries prompted Stadelmann, who was head of the German Archaeological Institute at the time of the Robot exploration, to conclude that the shafts were in fact model corridors, through which the king's soul could rise to the "stars that never are extinguished", that is, the circumpolar stars in the northern sky as well as the "land of light" in the southern sky". In other words, he reasoned that the shafts were built for the dead king's journey up to heaven.

Of course, various questions remain. Other pyramids lack these shafts, and moreover, the use of false doors, believed to allow the deceased access to his or her offerings, needed not have physical openings. Also, why do the shafts exist in both the Queen's and King's chambers?

Nevertheless, this still does not explain the function of the shafts. It would seem that the most popular theory among scholars has been that they did indeed serve some sort of ventilation function, but this view seems to be changing.

It should also be noted that the dominate winds were from the North, so the alignment of the shafts, while pointing to certain stars in the northern and southern hemisphere, was not unusual in itself. They could have played both a practical and a religious aspect, but their existence in only this pyramid seems to perhaps be their dominant function, since it is also the only such structure where the burial chamber is located above the entrance. Again, however, Egyptologists seem to be moving away from the ventilation theory in favor of a more symbolic role for these shafts.

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It is among the "stars that never are extinguished" where Firawn Khufu was possibly searching for Musa's God...

Also, Khaf-Ra's original name was Khaf-Khufu...Further proof that Khufu had indeed deified himself. My theory is that Khufu did not appoint himself Ra because Ra had a designated function as Sun God. The Sun had to rise and set daily and that was Ra's function. Ra was also depicted as a hybrid : A falcon's head upon an anthropomorphic body. Khufu deified himself by putting his own head upon the body of seated lion : The Sphinx. After Khufu lost to Musa's invisible God, his claim of deification became questionable...And his mortality became apparent.

And since Khufu had shutdown the temples of other deitites, after his drowning, a compromise was reached by Khufu's successor Djedef and the powerful Temple of Ra Priesthood. Djedef thus took upon himself the title of Son of Ra...Djedef-Ra. I theorize that Khufu had proclaimed himself a younger brother of Ra-the Sun God...Not Ra himself.

Wa Salam.

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Khfu , Khafra3 ,Manqara3 ,Ramsis II Quran didnt concern about names .

Salam.

In this piece, there is an interesting mention of a German Egyptologist [name not mentioned for some reason] who had also theorized that the Sphinx was built by Khufu :

A carved image of Khufu's head upon the body of a seated lion. The Sphinx was thought of as once having a beard which somehow broke off...

However, in the documentary THE LOST PYRAMID of Djedef-Ra at Abu Rawash, it was newly theorized that Khufu has no representation with a beard and that the Sphinx NEVER HAD A BEARD CARVED...

http://guardians.net/egypt/sphinx/index.html

My theory has Khufu carving out the Sphinx as a self-deification rite BEFORE he ordered Haman [Heminiu] to build the Great Pyramid.

I have provided some snapshots of the Firawn Khufu [The Pharaoh of the Oppression and the Exodus] and his landmark self-deification rite in the Sphinx...

In viewing these photos of Khufu's face, there is no indication that a beard had been carved upon it which later broke off...

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It was said that guns of Napolion brok off his nose and beard .

Ahmad shawqi ( prince of poets ) has described ( Abu lhol ) sphinx in one of his poetries :

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The last one says : Is there a promise between you and the mountains ***** remove in expected date ?

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It was said that guns of Napolion brok off his nose and beard .

Ahmad shawqi ( prince of poets ) has described ( Abu lhol ) sphinx in one of his poetries :

The last one says : Is there a promise between you and the mountains ***** remove in expected date ?

Salam..

After a 6-month search through internet websites, I finally came across some writings that actually SPECULATE on the probability that KHUFU could have been Firawn !

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Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Haman_(Islam)"

Removed. It also should be pointed that Khufu (whose name is often associated with The Great pyramid, thoguh some believes that he only merely retrofited The Great Pyramid instead of building it) had Hemiunu (another name that is also often associated with The Great Pyramid) as his vizier and royal seal bearer. If Khufu was Firaun, then it would mean that Moses and the descendants of Israel exodus would have took place somewhere during ancient Egypt's Old Kingdom era (somewhere in the middle of the third millenium B.C. / 25XX~ B.C.), around one and a half thousand years earlier than the current Ussher-ian dating. If someone wants to suggest that Hemiunu is Haman, let it come from an authority of heiryglyphics. Also note that Hemiunu is 1000 years younger than Haman!

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Here is another weblink regarding the subject, but this one does not speculate about Khufu possibly being Firawn...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firaun

Conclusion : the Wikipedia article, a debate about the Qur'anic Haman being the same person as Hemiunu (Hemon) ONLY SPECULATES an alternative that IF KHUFU was Firawn than the Exodus story would have occured 1500 years earlier. But it does not make a definitive claim that Khufu WAS the Pharaoh of the Exodus !

My COPYRIGHTED THEORY still stands and holds its legal grounds...And Wallahi, I came to this conclusion many months ago on my own...Before I found this article that actually even implied the speculation that Khufu was Firawn !

So far, I have not found a similar implication ANYWHERE else...Not from any articles or books by Egyptologists, historians or archaeologists...

I was excited that I actually found some material that even bothered to speculate that Khufu might have been Firawn !

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It was said that guns of Napolion brok off his nose and beard .

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The last one says : Is there a promise between you and the mountains ***** remove in expected date ?

Salam.

It is now regarded that the Sphinx's nose was vandalised by WWI Turkish soldiers...Not Bonaparte's troops...

Anyway, some key points of mine :

--Khufu changed his name from Khnum-Khuf-wey [Khnum Protects Me] to Khufu or Protector, after his self-deification.

--Khufu's crown prince Kawab[Kauab] died during Khufu's lifetime...Most probably due to the last of the Nine Ayats from Allah (swt) : Widespread death from the plague ...

--Khufu's Queen Merityotes[Meritites] WAS most probably the Firawn's Wife mentioned by Allah Ta'ala in the Holy Qur'an. Not the later queen Henutsen[Khnutsen]. Queen Merityotes was most likely 'Asiya bint Muzahem' of the Quranic scholars. How Quranic scholars came up with the name 'Asiya bint Muzahem' is a mystery, since Allah Ta'ala NEVER ONCE mentions the actual name of Firawn's Wife in the Holy Qur'an ! Queen Merityotes was the one most likely to have found and raised Nabih Musa (as) ...

--Neither the Torah nor the Bible mention of the theme of Pharaoh declaring himself the current Living God of Egypt. Nor do they mention Haman[Hemiunu] and him being ordered to build a 'tower to view Musa's God to obtain knowledge of Him and deem Musa a liar'... The Judeo-Christian theme only focuses on BONDAGE of the Israelites or Jews...

--The Qur'an NEVER directly refers to the Bani Israil as JEWS...

--The 'lofty tower' to be built by Haman IS the Great Pyramid of Giza. A royal palace and temple. Not just a funerary monument for Khufu.

--That Khufu ordered the Sphinx to be carved as a self-deification rite BEFORE he ordered Haman to build the Great Pyramid of Giza.

--That Khufu was not only the very first Egyptian Pharaoh to deify himself but most likely the world's first ruler to do so...And it was all his own idea, not fed to him by anyone.

--That all Egyptian Rulers before Khufu were high priest-kings and not 'living gods' or even demi-gods...After Khufu, starting with his immediate successor Djedef-Ra, all subsequent Egyptian Pharaohs were DEMI-GODS [ Half-Gods; Half-Men] : The sons of the gods [eg. "Son of Ra" or "Son of Horus"] ...

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It was said that guns of Napolion brok off his nose and beard .

Ahmad shawqi ( prince of poets ) has described ( Abu lhol ) sphinx in one of his poetries :

The last one says : Is there a promise between you and the mountains ***** remove in expected date ?

Salam.

Far more profound than this poetry are the ayats from the Holy Qur'an about Nabih Musa (as) , Nabih Harun (as) and Pharaoh Khufu [The Lord of Spikes]...

Two points I forgot to cover :

--That from the Quranic ayahs, it is possible that Nabih Musa (as) may have suffered from a minor speech impediment...Possibly caused by a partial paralysis of a facial nerve...

On two separate occasions, Allah Taala relates about Nabih Musa's kalam or speech pattern...

One occasion has Nabih Musa (as) beseeching Allah Taala to give him an aider from his family...Namely, Nabih Harun (as) . Because Nabih Harun was eloquent in speech...

The other occasion has Firawn Khufu admonishing his subjects to not pay any attention to Nabih Musa as he is a man who is garbled in speech...

This is of course, pure speculation but if somehow when Allah Taala's account of the Exodus of the Bani Israil is ever CONFIRMED ARCHAEOLOGICALLY or SCIENTIFICALLY, than this could be a crucial bit of detail...Who but the Almighty would know this subtle secret of Nabih Musa (as) ??

--Point two is that if, Inshallah, Khufu's undisturbed tomb is found intact in the future, than we must anticipate that at least a couple of the tomb inscriptions would be VERBATIM to at least a couple of the ayahs in the Holy Qur'an about the whole Bani Israil-Firawn affair...This would be the other undisputable evidence that the Holy Qur'an IS THE UNALTERED WORD OF ALMIGHTY Allah (swt) ... !

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It was said that guns of Napolion brok off his nose and beard .

Ahmad shawqi ( prince of poets ) has described ( Abu lhol ) sphinx in one of his poetries :

The last one says : Is there a promise between you and the mountains ***** remove in expected date ?

Salam.

Here is a weblink of an article of the Judeo-Christian chronology of the Exodus Pharaoh :

http://www.biblewitness.org/pharaoh.htm

The Judeo-Christian accounts have Nabih Harun [Aaron] 3-years OLDER than Nabih Musa [Moses]...This makes little sense since traditionally the Pharaoh of the Oppression ordered that the FIRSTBORN male of the Hebrews must die...This would mean that Nabih Harun (as) should have been the one cast into the Nile [Nil] River, NOT Nabih Musa (as) !

The Quranic narratives clearly imply that Nabih Musa (as) was OLDER than Nabih Harun (as)....

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It was said that guns of Napolion brok off his nose and beard .

Ahmad shawqi ( prince of poets ) has described ( Abu lhol ) sphinx in one of his poetries :

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The last one says : Is there a promise between you and the mountains ***** remove in expected date ?

Salam.

A gallery of images of Pharaoh Khufu from recently discovered statues of his...He is never shown with a BEARD...

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It was said that guns of Napolion brok off his nose and beard .

Ahmad shawqi ( prince of poets ) has described ( Abu lhol ) sphinx in one of his poetries :

ÃóÈÇ Çáåóæúáö¡ ØÇáó Úáíßó ÇáÚõÕõÑú *** æÈõáøöÛúÊó Ýí ÇáÃóÑúÖö ÃóÞÕÜì ÇáÚõãõÑú

ÝíÇ áöÏÉó ÇáÏøóåÑ¡ áÇ ÇáÏøåÑõ ÔóÈøó *** æáÇ ÃóäÊ ÌÇæÒÊó ÍÏ ÇáÕøöÛóÜÜÜÑ

ÅöáÇãó ÑßæÈõßó ãÊäó ÇáÑã *** áö áöØíøö ÇáÃóÕíá æóÌóæúÈö ÇáÓÍÜÑ¿

ÊõÓÇÝÑ ãäÊÞáÇð Ýí ÇáÞÜÜÜÑæ *** äö¡ ÝÃóíÇä ÊõáÞí ÛõÈÇÑó ÇáÓÝÜÜÑ¿

ÃóÈíäßó ÚóåÏñ æÈíä ÇáÌÈ *** ¡ ÊÒæáÇä Ýí ÇáãæÚÏ ÇáãäÊÙÜÑ¿

The last one says : Is there a promise between you and the mountains ***** remove in expected date ?

Salam.

The German Egyptologist who has come up with the theory that the Sphinx was carved out by Khufu instead of his sons Khaf-Ra or Djedef-Ra is RAINER STADELMANN.

---Khufu's Great Pyramid is properly called AKHET KHUFU or The Horizon of Khufu ...

---Khufu's self-image of the The Sphinx is properly called SESHEPANKH [sphinx] or "Living Image" ...

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Alaikassalam,

So the beard was not a model yet in Khufu's time ! but what is the point if he has or put a beard or not ?

What about his wife ! her name was not mentioned in Quran but we name her Asia ?

What about ( nefertiti ) or ( nefertari ) Ramsis wife ?

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Alaikassalam,

So the beard was not a model yet in Khufu's time ! but what is the point if he has or put a beard or not ?

What about his wife ! her name was not mentioned in Quran but we name her Asia ?

What about ( nefertiti ) or ( nefertari ) Ramsis wife ?

Salam.

The point of the beard is for positive identification of the image of the Seshep-Ankh [sphinx] or Living Image...Djedef-Ra and Khaf-Ra have for the most part been depicted as having beards...Their father Khufu, on the other hand, has not.

Who is the "we" that actually named Firawn's Wife "Asiya binte Muzahem" ?

Since Ramses II was NOT Firawn of the Exodus, his queen Nefer-tari is irrelevant.

As for Nefer-titi, she was Akhen-aten's [Amun-hotep IV] queen ... Akhen-aten was ALSO NOT the Firawn of the Exodus ...

The TWO most famous landmarks synonymous with Ancient Egypt : The Great Giza Pyramid [Akhet Khufu or Horizon of Khufu] and The Sphinx [seshep-Ankh or Living Image] are directly associated with the Firawn of the Holy Qur'an [The Pharaoh of both The Oppression and The Exodus] ... !

The Great Pyramid is the ONLY surviving member of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World and was the tallest building on earth for 4000 years.

The Sphinx is still regarded as the most famous statue in the world.

Below : The Akhet Khufu [Horizon of Khufu] or Great Pyramid; The Seshep-Ankh [Living Image] or Sphinx of Khufu; Firawn Khufu [Pharaoh Cheops]; Grand Vizier Haman [Hemiunu] ...

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Aleikassalam,

Who is the "we" that actually named Firawn's Wife "Asiya binte Muzahem" ?

My Community and my mother who told me that since I was a child ( Asiah bint Muzahim ) .

I think if we know Khufu's wife name in ( herogliph language ) and translate it to arabic or English ,and it shows us that her name was ( Asia )

so that would asure khufo was Firaun Musa .

Forgive me if my information of egyptiology is low .

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Aleikassalam,

My Community and my mother who told me that since I was a child ( Asiah bint Muzahim ) .

I think if we know Khufu's wife name in ( herogliph language ) and translate it to arabic or English ,and it shows us that her name was ( Asia )

so that would asure khufo was Firaun Musa .

Forgive me if my information of egyptiology is low .

Salam.

Khufu was said to have two additional royal spouses whose names have not been properly recorded...This deduction came from Egyptologists who hypothsize that Khufu's 9 sons and 15 daughters could not have come from his 2 identified queens : Merit-yotes or Henutsen.

Merityotes was Khufu's main queen.

I still would like to trace the origins of how the name Asiya binte Muzahem came about ?

How do you "translate" a Hieratic [Ancient Musri] name into Arabic ? It could be corrupted or adapted into Arabic, possibly but not translated...

Then again, Asiya would have to be part of a lengthy titlular name maybe...

Then that leaves us with "Muzahem" ... Who was he ? And is that an ancient Egyptian name ? Just as in the story of Nabih Yusuf (as), neither does Allah Ta'ala call the Aziz by Potiphar[aka Potipherah], nor his wife by Zuleikha...These are Judeo-Christian traditions. In the early medieval Jewish Elohist and Yahwist traditions, Potiphar's wife is not named. In later medieval Jewish [i.e. The Midrash] and Persian traditions, she is named Zuleikha.

However, Allah Ta'ala does name Hemon [Hemiunu] when quoting Firawn Khufu's decree ["..Ya Hamanu or O Haman.." etc..]

As for Hemon [Haman], his official tomb is near to Khufu's Great Pyramid and has reliefs of his image and some dates in reference to Khufu's reign. However, no body of this Haman or Hemiunu has ever been found. Haman was the son of previous Grand Vizier Prince Nefer-maat and Princess Atet; Haman was said to be either or both cousin and nephew to Khufu. There is a very strong possibility that Haman was never buried in his intended mausoleum. According to the Qur'an, Haman accompanied Khufu in the pursuit of the Bani Israil and drowned along with the Egyptian armed fleet.

When Haman's tomb was discovered and opened, nothing but a chest was found with scrolls that were idenitified as Hemiuniu's diaries. No sarcophagus or corpse of Hemiunu or Haman HIMSELF !

Here is an excerpt from Haman's diaries :

Hemiunu�s diaries are a most fortuitous discovery. Happily, he

was an obsessive diarist, sketcher and artist. There is, however,

much work yet to be done, both in deciphering them, and � once

deciphered � understanding what Hemiunu was portraying,

recording and conjecturing. His diaries cover so many different

aspects of life in the 4th Dynasty of the Old Kingdom � at least, the

life of a privileged member of the aristocracy.

The Old Kingdom of ancient Egypt was, perhaps, the first, and

perhaps, therefore, archetypal society in recorded history. Modern

scholars, who look back on this period as the Golden Age, may find

that the trials and tribulations experienced by such an eminent man as

Hemiunu speak more of a life balanced on a knife-edge. One wrong

foot, and the king�s wrath would have been swift and terrible. There

are also hints of savage punishment for wrongdoers and foreigners�

-------------

Here is another translated excerpt from Hemiunu's diary :

Hemiunu records a difficult meeting with King Khufu.

Present: The King, Prince Ankhaf, Overseers of the Sides, Counter of

the Sacred Stars, Guardian of the Sacred Numbers, and others. The

Priests of Ra was not present, to Hemiunu�s relief.

Khufu: Why has digging on my burial chamber been halted?

Hemiunu: Several diggers have died in the last three days, and many

are ill, your majesty. The men think there is a curse or an angry god in

the rock, that is killing them.

Khufu: And what do you think, you miserable excuse for a festering

dung heap?

Hemiunu: My lord, I believe that the men are dying because they

cannot breathe, due to the fumes from the torches and the lamps.

Khufu: I will have my chamber. The future of all Egypt depends on

my travelling to my star. And for that, I need my underground

chamber.

Hemiunu: I believe there may be a way forward, my liege, and one

that is in keeping with your being the greatest ever King of Egypt,

with the greatest ever pyramid.

Khufu: This had better be good, you snivelling pustule, or else!

Hemiunu: Your command of invective is indeed superlative, my king.

Truly have you mastered the art of overseeing. I propose to cut an

extra passage through the rock and the masonry from the mouth of the

underground chamber to the junction between the Grand Gallery and

the serdab. Fires will be lit in this new passage, which will suck air

down the entrance passage towards the underground chamber. This

will draw in fresh air and relieve the workers.

Khufu: Will not the smoke from these fires impede the building of

my Grand Gallery and serdab?

Hemiunu: Fires will be needed only while your underground chamber

is being dug out, Sire. And, thereafter, the new passage will serve as

an escape route for those who fill the up passage with plug stones.

Khufu: Hm-m-m. I suppose they really do need to escape, do they

Hemiunu?

Hemiunu: Your great mercy is legendary, my King.

Khufu: �as you may need it to be, you pathetic excuse for a

pregnant camel.

Hemiunu: (quietly, to the king) Not your best effort, sire, not your

best. Snivelling pustule was better.

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To view the complete translated document of Haman's diary, here is the following weblink :

http://www.hitchins.net/Books&samplers/HDTaster.pdf

Note that in the table of contents, Haman's diary ends abruptly. And no mention about the conflict with the Bani Israil or Nabih Musa (as) ...

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Aleikassalam,

My Community and my mother who told me that since I was a child ( Asiah bint Muzahim ) .

I think if we know Khufu's wife name in ( herogliph language ) and translate it to arabic or English ,and it shows us that her name was ( Asia )

so that would asure khufo was Firaun Musa .

Forgive me if my information of egyptiology is low .

Salam.

I forgot to add that Derek Hitchins is a systems engineer and apparently an AMATEUR Egyptologist...

He is certainly NO recognized figure in either archaeology or Egyptology.

His two published books on Egyptology are :

The Pyramid Builder's Handbook

The Secret Diaries of Hemiunu

His claim of Hemiuniu's "diaries" being found at his tomb in either 1992 or 1994 has not been commented on by world famous Egyptologists such as Zahi Hawass, Mark Lehner, Rainer Stadelmann, Vassil Dobrev, Salima Ikram, etc...

I have yet to still authenticate the existence of these "secret diaries" via my own research and investigation...They could possibly be an author's imagination and a hoax.

If anyone who is following my posts can assist me in this endeavor, I would be gratified...

Below is a weblink to Derek K. Hitchins other book on Egypt :

http://www.hitchins.net/Books%26samplers/PBHTaster.pdf

I do know this, that NO REMAINS of Hemiunu [Hemon] were ever found at his tomb. Nor a sarcophagus... And there is no positive evidence that he was even buried in his intended tomb.

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My Community and my mother who told me that since I was a child ( Asiah bint Muzahim ) .

I think if we know Khufu's wife name in ( herogliph language ) and translate it to arabic or English ,and it shows us that her name was ( Asia )

so that would asure khufo was Firaun Musa .

Forgive me if my information of egyptiology is low .

Salam.

I had emailed Dr. Salima Ikram and had asked her about Derek K. Hitchins' THE SECRET DIARIES OF HEMIUNU ...

She replied to me that Hitchins' book was "A WORK OF FICTION"...

Thus, I have my answer. No chest was found at Haman's tomb containing his 'secret diaries'. Hitchins' book was a hoax.

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My Community and my mother who told me that since I was a child ( Asiah bint Muzahim ) .

I think if we know Khufu's wife name in ( herogliph language ) and translate it to arabic or English ,and it shows us that her name was ( Asia )

so that would asure khufo was Firaun Musa .

Forgive me if my information of egyptiology is low .

Salam.

Here are a couple of weblinks by anti-Quranic groups who have found alleged "contradictions" with the Quranic narrative of Firawn and Haman...

They have claimed that the Quranic verses have confused THREE different Biblical traditions in the Story of Esther, The Tower of Babel and The Exodus Story...

What my theory points out is that the 'lofty tower Haman is ordered to build to view Musa's God' IS the Great Pyramid of Giza or Akhet Khufu [Horizon of Khufu] !

http://www.***.org/Quran/Contra/old_pharaoh.html

http://www.***.org/Responses/S...llah/haman2.htm

Note- In the above URL, was the 2nd time I came across Khufu's name in an implied form to be the Pharaoh of the Exodus...

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Alaikassalam,

So the beard was not a model yet in Khufu's time ! but what is the point if he has or put a beard or not ?

What about his wife ! her name was not mentioned in Quran but we name her Asia ?

What about ( nefertiti ) or ( nefertari ) Ramsis wife ?

Salam.

Dr. Zahi Hawass finally replied to me...In fact I received two separate responses from him. Alhamdulillah, am gratified. His responses were quite positive and he stated he was looking forward to reading some more material I had emailed him...Didn't have to wait till 2016...

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Alaikassalam,

So the beard was not a model yet in Khufu's time ! but what is the point if he has or put a beard or not ?

Salam.

The BEARD was a model BEFORE Khufu's time but what makes the Seshep-Ankh [Living Image] or Sphinx unique is that recent examination of its chin indicate that it NEVER had a beard attached to it...What this indicates is that only youthful images of Khufu have survived that depicted him before he was represented with a beard. Khufu's sons Djedef-Ra and Khaf-Ra and even Khufu's grandson Menkau-Ra have always been depicted with BEARDS. This is one of the proofs that the Sphinx or Seshep-Ankh is none other than Khufu's very own personal image...

For comparison, here is the ultra-modern CT scan-assisted 99.99% accurate reconstruction of PHARAOH TUT-ANKH-AMUN'S face (sans beard)...

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