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Waiting To Marry Imam Mahdi (atfs) ?

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Recently I have heard that some Shia women in Pakistan do not marry anyone and infact are waiting for Imam Mahdi(atfs) to reappear and marry them ?

I dont know whether this is true or not, but the question is:

does having this kind of feeling towards Imam Mahdi(atfs) is stupidity or absolute blasphemy ?

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(wasalam)

see

http://www.al-islam.org/mahdi/nontl/Toc.htm

chapter 10.

there are such things mentioned in some books as for how authentic it is, Allahu A'lam.

After going through Ziyarat Aali Yasin I don't think it is very far fetched.

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=vO7BNre0S38&feature=related

The Imam lives in the world and prays and eats etc. He is not a myth like Santa Claus or something.

Marriage is the Sunnah of the Prophet (sawa). Do you really think he would remain unmarried for 1200 years?

It is hypothetical I know and we can only "prove" it via inductive reasoning not deductive unless we actually meet his kids! :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive_reasoning

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deductive_reasoning

I have read some anecdotes of 'Ulama who have claimed to have visited the green island (al-jazirat al khadraa).

Don't tell me you have never heard of it?

I saw a book on the topic of the green island at al-Khoei Center in NY which was about 300 pages in Arabic. Didn't purchase it but who knows.

It might be true.

It is however agreed upon by the Shi'ah 'Ulama that the Imam is alive in this world, living, breathing and visiting different places incognito. He is not living in some unseen realm. He is living right here is this world with us.

It is another topic but many 'Ulama say that just as there were two occultations, major and minor there will be two Zuhurs, major and minor.

More has happened in the last 100 years of human history in terms of technological progress than has taken place in the last 1100 years. We are in the minor Zuhur.

There are so many books written of people in our days who have met the 12th Imam. See Sayyid Hasan al-Abtahi's books, especially "Meeting with the Imam".

I know for a fact that even you can meet the Imam. He will come and visit you but you have to become a mu'thir because only a mu'thir can be a true Shi'ah.

see http://al-islam.org/uswat_alarifin/

here is a short story from the book:

14. Cultivating the Nafs: a Condition to Earn Serving the Imam of the Time (aj)

Hujjatul-Islam wal Muslimin Quddas says that the sheikh one day said, “In Tehran, there was a scholar teaching the ‘two lam`as’.

One day, this scholar heard that one of his ordinary students was undertaking supernatural deeds. The knife of the professor which he used to use quite often for writing (they used to write at that time with reeds for which they needed a knife to arrange their pens) was lost, so he was angry with his sons and family members thinking they were the ones who took it away from his pocket then lost it somewhere. Several days passed by and the knife could not be located.

The professor did not forget about his knife even after the passage of this period. One day that student said to the professor after the end of the class, ‘O Sheikh! You forgot your knife in the pocket of your old vest; so, what sin did your children commit?’ The professor remembered that he actually had put the knife in the pocket of his vest, but he wondered about the student and how he came to know about it. He realized that the student was connected with the friends of Allah, so he said this to him one day, ‘I have some work with you after the class.’ After the students had gone out, he said to him, ‘I am sure you are connected with the Imams (as); so, can you meet the Imam of the Time (aj)?’ He kept insisting on him to answer this question, so the student had to admit that he was connected with the Imam of the Time (aj), whereupon the professor said to him, ‘If you see the Imam again, convey my Salam to him and tell him that I am eager to see him, and I request him that we meet even if it is for just few minutes.’

“Several days passed by and the student said nothing. The professor did not dare to ask him because he was concerned lest the Imam (as) should have refused to accept to meet him, but he found himself forced to ask him after his patience had run out: ‘Did you convey my message to the Imam (as), and what was his answer?’ The student tried to dodge the answer but the professor said to him, ‘Tell me and do not be shy, for you are only a go-between messenger (“And the Messenger has only to convey the clear notification”). The student said, ‘The Imam said, ‘It is not necessary that we should appoint a time for him to meet; so, let him cultivate himself, and I shall go to him myself.’”

http://www.alseraj.net/29/intro.shtml?ÇÓæÉ+++ÇáÚÇÑÝíä

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Salam

^Thaqalain.....anything i can say is insulting so meh.

Everybody else: Yes it is true in many places in the world fathers lock their daughters up in their room their entire life so they can marry the imam (af) when he reappears. This was discussed in depth in a thread in the past.

My opinion? Sheer stupidity.

Wasalam.

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salaams,

one more point to mention.

http://www.mowswoat-suhofe-alltyybeyyn.org...xz31.html#z3f17

ÒíÇÑÉ íæã ÇáÌãÚÉ æåæ íæã ÕÇÍÈ ÇáÒãÇä

ÕáæÇÊ Çááå Úáíå æÈÇÓãå

æåæ Çáíæã ÇáÐí íÙåÑ Ýíå ÚÌáå Çááå

ÇáÓáÇã Úáíß íÇ ÍÌÉ Çááå Ýí ÃÑÖå ¡ ÇáÓáÇã Úáíß íÇ Úíä Çááå Ýí ÎáÞå ¡ ÇáÓáÇã Úáíß íÇ äæÑ Çááå ÇáÐí Èå íåÊÏí ÇáãåÊÏæä ¡ æíÝÑÌ Èå Úä ÇáãÄãäíä ¡ ÇáÓáÇã Úáíß ÃíåÇ ÇáãåÐÈ ÇáÎÇÆÝ ¡ ÇáÓáÇã Úáíß ÃíåÇ Çáæáí ÇáäÇÕÍ ¡ ÇáÓáÇã Úáíß íÇ ÓÝíäÉ ÇáäÌÇÉ ¡ ÇáÓáÇã Úáíß íÇ Úíä ÇáÍíÇÉ ¡ ÇáÓáÇã Úáíß Õáì Çááå Úáíß æÚáì Âá ÈíÊß ÇáØíÈíä ÇáØÇåÑíä .

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íÇ ãæáÇí íÇ ÕÇÍÈ ÇáÒãÇä ¡ ÕáæÇÊ Çááå Úáíß æÚáì Âá ÈíÊß ¡ åÐÇ íæã ÇáÌãÚÉ ¡ æåæ íæãß ÇáãÊæÞÚ Ýíå ÙåæÑß æÇáÝÑÌ Ýíå ááãÄãäíä Úáì íÏß ¡ æÞÊá ÇáßÇÝÑíä ÈÓíÝß ¡ æÃäÇ íÇ ãæáÇí Ýíå ÖíÝß æÌÇÑß ¡ æÃäÊ íÇ ãæáÇí ßÑíã ãä ÃæáÇÏ ÇáßÑÇã ¡ æãÃãæÑ ÈÇáÅÌÇÑÉ ÝÃÖÝäí æÃÌÑäí ¡ ÕáæÇÊ Çááå Úáíß ¡ æÚáì Ãåá ÈíÊß ÇáØÇåÑíä

namely

ÇáÓáÇã Úáíß Õáì Çááå Úáíß æÚáì Âá ÈíÊß ÇáØíÈíä ÇáØÇåÑíä

do you know what that means? case closed.

Âá means descendants not forefathers.

you can not have an Aal unless you have children.

the simple answer to those ignorant fathers if they even exist is that the 12th Imam (as) can marry them if they want to marry

him even now. He doesn't need to come out of the occultation to marry them. The reason he is not proposing to them, lol, is because they are ignorant unclean souls.

ÓæÑÉ ÇáäæÑ - ÓæÑÉ 24 - ÂíÉ 26

ÇáÎÈíËÇÊ ááÎÈíËíä æÇáÎÈíËæä ááÎÈíËÇÊ æÇáØíÈÇÊ ááØíÈíä æÇáØíÈæä ááØíÈÇÊ ÇæáÆß ãÈÑÄæä ããÇ íÞæáæä áåã ãÛÝÑÉ æÑÒÞ ßÑíã

Vile women are for vile men, and vile men for vile women. Good women are for good men, and good men for good women; such are innocent of that which people say: For them is pardon and a bountiful provision.

ÓæÑÉ Âá ÚãÑÇä - ÓæÑÉ 3 - ÂíÉ 179

ÇáãíÒÇä Ýí ÊÝÓíÑ ÇáÞÑÂä ÊÞÑíÈ ÇáÞÑÂä Åáì ÇáÃÐåÇä äæÑ ÇáËÞáíä

ãÇ ßÇä Çááå áíÐÑ ÇáãÄãäíä Úáì ãÇ ÇäÊã Úáíå ÍÊì íãíÒ ÇáÎÈíË ãä ÇáØíÈ æãÇ ßÇä Çááå áíØáÚßã Úáì ÇáÛíÈ æáßä Çááå íÌÊÈí ãä ÑÓáå ãä íÔÇÁ ÝÇãäæÇ ÈÇááå æÑÓáå æÇä ÊÄãäæÇ æÊÊÞæÇ Ýáßã ÇÌÑ ÚÙíã

It is not (the purpose) of Allah to leave you in your present state till He shall separate the wicked from the good. And it is not (the purpose of) Allah to let you know the Unseen. But Allah chooseth of His messengers whom He will, (to receive knowledge thereof). So believe in Allah and His messengers. If ye believe and ward off (evil), yours will be a vast reward.

ÓæÑÉ ÇáãÇÆÏÉ - ÓæÑÉ 5 - ÂíÉ 100

Þá áÇ íÓÊæí ÇáÎÈíË æÇáØíÈ æáæ ÇÚÌÈß ßËÑÉ ÇáÎÈíË ÝÇÊÞæÇ Çááå íÇ Çæáí ÇáÇáÈÇÈ áÚáßã ÊÝáÍæä

Say: The evil and the good are not alike even though the plenty of the evil attract thee. So be mindful of your duty to Allah, O men of understanding, that ye may succeed.

(5) ÓæÑÉ ÇáÃäÝÇá - ÓæÑÉ 8 - ÂíÉ 37

áíãíÒ Çááå ÇáÎÈíË ãä ÇáØíÈ æíÌÚá ÇáÎÈíË ÈÚÖå Úáì ÈÚÖ ÝíÑßãå ÌãíÚÇ ÝíÌÚáå Ýí Ìåäã ÇæáÆß åã ÇáÎÇÓÑæä

That Allah may separate the wicked from the good, The wicked will He place piece upon piece, and heap them all together, and consign them unto hell. Such verily are the losers.

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you can not have an Aal unless you have children.

You are wrong. It means family. Ali (as) was not Mohammad (pbuh) kid and is part of his family. The pure family of Imam Mahdi (as) is the 11 Imams (as), Mohammad (pbuh) and Fatima (as).

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You are wrong. It means family. Ali (as) was not Mohammad (pbuh) kid and is part of his family. The pure family of Imam Mahdi (as) is the 11 Imams (as), Mohammad (pbuh) and Fatima (as).

(wasalam)

really? proof?

you don't even know the difference between Âá and ÐÑíÉ and ÚÊÑÉ and Ãåá do you?

well my proof is in

Çä Çááå ÇÕØÝì ÇÏã æäæÍÇ æÇá ÇÈÑÇåíã æÇá ÚãÑÇä Úáì ÇáÚÇáãíä

3:33

Family is just a rough general translation but Aal comes from Aala Yauulu which means to return. It means descendants my friend, it does not mean forefathers. Forefathers is Aabaa.

Otherwise Aalu Ibraheem would include Adam and Nuh in the above verse 3:33 and Allah does not make redunant statements for nothing.

Aalu Ibraheem does not mean the forefathers of Ibraheem. Likewise Aalu al-Mahdi does not mean the forefathers of al-Mahdi.

Aalu al-Mahdi means the descendants of the Mahdi.

Now don't just reply with "you are wrong." lol.

prove me wrong. you can't. why?

because i am right.

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you don't even know the difference between Âá and ÐÑíÉ and ÚÊÑÉ and Ãåá do you?

ÐÑíÉ = offspring

the rest means family and it can include fathers and you are wrong.

The verse you quoted proves nothing on your part.

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Auli-Yaseen (pbuh) includes Imam Ali (as).

Auli-Mohammad (pbuh) includes Imam Ali (as).

It doesn't mean only "offspring".

It means family.

ÕáæÇÊ Çááå Úáíß æÚáì Âá ÈíÊß

"your house", the Imam Mahdi (as) belongs to the chosen house of 33:33, and the people of that house are Mohammad (pbuh), Fatima (as) and the 12 Imams (as).

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(wasalam)

you haven't proven anything. you don't even know arabic how can you prove anything?

if you want to prove it use some lexicons man, not dogma.

go look up Lane's Lexicon at http://www.studyquran.co.uk/LLhome.htm

Aal never includes forefathers, ever in Arabic. Ask any Arab.

It may extend sideways and downwards but never upwards in lineage.

My Aal does not include my father. Don't you know that?

Even Hans/Wehr's dictionary should explain that sufficiently.

How proficient are you in Arabic anyway? Just because you might know urdu it doesn't extend into Arabic.

Arabic is a whole different language.

Shakir translates Aal as descendants. Mir Ahmad Ali and Pooya mention in their commentary that Aal

means posterity.

You are a rude person. It is not good ettiquette to just jump in our discussion and say, You are wrong without even saying salaam 'alaykum nothing. You should have said salaam, thanks, i like this topic but i disagree with your opinion etc etc.

Now who has made a fool of themselves here? I have proven my case using lexicons, Shi'ah translations and commentaries and all you could say is rude stuff.

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(wasalam)

see

http://www.al-islam.org/mahdi/nontl/Toc.htm

chapter 10.

there are such things mentioned in some books as for how authentic it is, Allahu A'lam.

I have read it and as far as I'm aware, most [if not all] scholars consider it unauthentic because it is filled with inconsistencies and contradictions.

In that very same book which have quoted [the same chapter], Ayatullah Amini refutes these incidents:

Mr. Hoshyar: The story of these unknown countries is undoubtedly a legend. The only source for it is the anecdotal account related in Hadiqat al-shi'a, Anwar nu'maniyya and Jannat al-ma'wa. In order to elucidate this we should look at the source of the anecdote. The story has been related in the following form:

Marriage is the Sunnah of the Prophet (sawa). Do you really think he would remain unmarried for 1200 years?

Well, if Prophet Isa (A) can remain unmarried, why not Imam Mahdi (ATF)? It is not about my thinking and it is quite possible that he (ATF) might be married, but one of the refutations of such speculations which I had read was that having a wife and children increases the risk of exposing the Imam of our time (ATF) and if he did have a wife [or children], then it escalates the dangers of the enemies coming to know about him (ATF). So, it is possible that he is married, but it is highly unlikely.

There are also no authentic and consistent reports of him having children. So these speculations are just that. Speculations.

I have read some anecdotes of 'Ulama who have claimed to have visited the green island (al-jazirat al khadraa).

Don't tell me you have never heard of it?

The very first link which you gave and directed to the chapter (10) talks about it. In it, Ayatullah Amini refutes this "legend", as he puts it.

It is however agreed upon by the Shi'ah 'Ulama that the Imam is alive in this world, living, breathing and visiting different places incognito. He is not living in some unseen realm. He is living right here is this world with us.

Nobody contested this.

It is another topic but many 'Ulama say that just as there were two occultations, major and minor there will be two Zuhurs, major and minor.

More has happened in the last 100 years of human history in terms of technological progress than has taken place in the last 1100 years. We are in the minor Zuhur.

This is the second time someone has mentioned about minor and major Zuhur. I would like reference to this since it is something new to me. Can you provide ahadith supporting this?

There are so many books written of people in our days who have met the 12th Imam. See Sayyid Hasan al-Abtahi's books, especially "Meeting with the Imam".

Nobody contested this either. We're talking about him having a family.

Again, I would appreciate if you can provide references for the minor and major Zuhur.

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Auli Ab-Baytic

Means people of Your House. Aul can mean people, for example, "Auli-Firon" means people of Firon. "Auli Baytik", means the people of his House, which is the Ma'asoomeen (as). His House is the Chosen House in 33:33.

It doesn't matter translations are not always right, Auli means family in most contexts, and sometimes means people. Like I said, Auli-Mohammad (pbuh) includes Ali (as) and Auli-Ibrahim (as) includes Sarah (as).

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actually you have people with such beliefs right here on SC. see:

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=234940326

This is not about ladies who are waiting to marry the Imam, it is about answering men who say that ladies are not ready for second marraige with them. The reason is stated in the poll as , because they think men nowadays are not worth it, and that, if their personalities were like Imam, the girls would marry them.

You see, men compare themselves to the Imam and say, that when the Imam could marry more than once, they should also do it, so the poll just states that it is wrong for them to compare themselves to the Imam.

Don't misinterpret the poll, it is not ladies waiting to marry the Imam(no lady is actually saying that), it is as blasphemous as men comparing themselves to the Imams.

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(salam)

In mefatihal Jinnan there is something on the lines with him having offspring.

It is prayer regarding "Sahib Al-Amr" and in it we pray for "wa waladeh wa thuryateh".

The supplication was reported from Imam Retha (as) ot pray for "Sahabal Amr".

If Sahabal Amr is not the current Imam (as) of that time but Imam Mahdi (as), then this supplication is refering to Imam Mahdi (as) having kids.

The prayer seems to apply just as much to Imam Retha (as) as it would to Imam Mahdi (as) as all of the Imams (as) were working to establish justice and we see the same sort of prayer taught by Imam Sajad (as):

O God,

surely Thou hast confirmed Thy religion in all times

with an Imam whom Thou hast set up

as a guidepost to Thy servants

and a lighthouse in Thy lands,

after his cord has been joined to Thy cord!

Thou hast appointed him the means to Thy good pleasure,

made obeying him obligatory,

cautioned against disobeying him,

and commanded

following his commands,

abandoning his prohibitions,

and that no forward-goer go ahead of him

or back-keeper keep back from him!218

So he is the preservation of the shelter-seekers,

the cave of the faithful,

the handhold of the adherents,

and the radiance of the worlds!

O God,

so inspire Thy guardian219 to give thanks

for that in which Thou hast favoured him,

inspire us with the like concerning him,

grant him an authority from Thee to help him,220

open for him an easy opening,221

aid him with Thy mightiest pillar,

brace up his back,222

strengthen his arm,223

guard him with Thy eye,

defend him with Thy safeguarding,

help him with Thy angels,

and assist him with Thy most victorious troops!224

Through him

establish Thy Book, Thy bounds, Thy laws,

and the norms of Thy Messenger's Sunna

(Thy blessings, O God,

be upon him and his Household),

bring to life the guideposts of Thy religion,

deadened by the wrongdoers,

burnish the rust of injustice from Thy way,

sift the adversity from Thy road,

eliminate those who deviate from Thy path,

and erase those who seek crookedness in Thy straightness!

And although Imam Mahdi (as) will be the completes that only, all the Imams (as) were part of that.

Anways, if the supplication is seen to be regarding Imam Mahdi (as) and Imam Retha (as) commanding to pray for "Sahabal Amr' with that refers specifically to Imam Mahdi (as), it can be seen as explicit stating Imam Mahdi (as) having kids.

wa salam

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I am also curious about the idea of a minor and major rising. There are duas that hint at this concept e.g. from the Friday Ziyarat:

'May Allah fulfill, at once, in advance, the promise He made with you - to shower mercy & make distinctly visible (your) leadership.'

(emphasis mine)

But I do not have the hadith.

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Kindly edit the topic as whatever times its coming on top, this is hurting our feelings.

If user can't edit , other users can open another thread to discuss off-topic issues.

And even if we can't brerak the thread , please try to merge it to other topics to keep the same discussion in the same unbreakable thread.

And the lastly if we can't do anything as mentioned, we can resolve this thread by a concise/final reply/final words from an Al`im.

We can't question everything and if questioned we must resolve and don't let it open for exposure to fitna.

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