Logical Fallacies And How To Spot Them

[dingdong]

Ok I am really afraid of reeading this article as ihtiyat because if some kind of point is proved against Muslims for which I cant think of an answer, my taqwa and belief and stuff goes down and its like torture for me. So I found this article from stumbleupon. I dont want to read because I dont want to die a kafir. Can someone reply with a complete refuttal, if it needs one, so that once it has been refutted, I can read it safely.

http://www.daltonator.net/durandal/creatio...fallacies.shtml

[Renaissance_Man]

Um, this is a page about logical fallacies its not an attack on Islam. How exactly does this pose a danger to your faith? Even though the author is an atheist most of his rebuttals are correct because these are extremely weak arguments employed by fundamentalist Christians. Not every argument by a believer is correct and not conversely every argument by a kafir is false either. Ayatullah Jawadi Amuli's book, "A Commentary on Theistic Arguments" in fact criticizes quite a few arguments for God's existence which he demonstrates to be flawed.

I have to ask, is your faith really so shaky that reading an Internet article will shatter it? Why do you need someone to prove or disprove the article to you when Allah has given you a brain to do just that yourself?

[dingdong]

uhhh well my faith is kind of messed up. sometimes i reach very high levels of qurbat touching my peek while sometimes it goes down unreasonably. i mean it just envelopes me and then i have to sit down, clear my mind and start thinking about WHY i DO believe in Allah. my guess as to why this is happening is because I have a lot of capacity for improvement and knowledge which I dont have so thats why everything keeps moving about. I mean a normal person would just take some weak proof of Allah and be satisfied with that but I feel like getting into the depths and reason out in an unbiased manner. so do you think it is safe for me to read it?

[dingdong]

That want bad I mean I read it and it wasnt bad at all. No attacks on Islam or theories. Just some attacks n tactics and methods. Phew that was close. As soon as I figured out this was somethign to do with creation and stuff, I ran out of there. Thanks

[Asha]

Um, this is a page about logical fallacies its not an attack on Islam. How exactly does this pose a danger to your faith? Even though the author is an atheist most of his rebuttals are correct because these are extremely weak arguments employed by fundamentalist Christians. Not every argument by a believer is correct and not conversely every argument by a kafir is false either. Ayatullah Jawadi Amuli's book, "A Commentary on Theistic Arguments" in fact criticizes quite a few arguments for God's existence which he demonstrates to be flawed.

I have to ask, is your faith really so shaky that reading an Internet article will shatter it? Why do you need someone to prove or disprove the article to you when Allah has given you a brain to do just that yourself?

I agree. Plus another consideration is that some people tend to think that educating oneself is somehow akin to supporting it or believing in it. I want to equally (or maybe even more so) understand my foes (Shaytan) as I do the philosophies or faith that I follow. We must have offense as well as defense.

[~RuQaYaH~]

Not every argument by a believer is correct and not conversely every argument by a kafir is false either.

Exactly

uhhh well my faith is kind of messed up. sometimes i reach very high levels of qurbat touching my peek while sometimes it goes down unreasonably. i mean it just envelopes me and then i have to sit down, clear my mind and start thinking about WHY i DO believe in Allah. my guess as to why this is happening is because I have a lot of capacity for improvement and knowledge which I dont have so thats why everything keeps moving about. I mean a normal person would just take some weak proof of Allah and be satisfied with that but I feel like getting into the depths and reason out in an unbiased manner. so do you think it is safe for me to read it?

Bro, I would really recommend you to go to the following site:

http://www.al-emaan.org/

Look on the left hand side and you'll see the following:

LECTURE

Pro.Hassanain Rajabali U.S.A

Series of lectures delivered by Prof. Hassanain Rajabali at Marana Auditorium Sydney Australia In the month of Rajab 1423 September 2002

Listen to the first three lectures on that list. He gives very logical and scientific reasons for the existence of God - you will love it :)

You're never going to have strong faith unless you have accepted God and Islam through reason (or alternatively, unless you've experienced many miracles or something like that).

wasalaam

[koroigetsuga]

I never shy away from a discussion on Islam. If a point can be made against Islam then I feel must investigate it. The reason I follow Islam is because my "logic" has led me to it; and if logic can lead me away from it then why not follow it. If there is logic against it then I investigate it. Some people are weak and easily reject religion when baseless arguments are made against it as is the case with many atheists I know.

Most of the time when I read atheist and christian arguments against Islam then I find their understanding of many of its concepts and history as very weak and most of the time baseless but I still investigate it anyway.

PS these arguments of logic and logic fallacy actually came to the West from the Islamic Civilization. I'll see if I can find the article that better explains this part of history.

[dingdong]

Well yes for the time being I HAVE accepted Allah thru reason and logic. But the prob over here is that we can keep going deeper and deeper and the arguments between the Atheists and Monotheists will keep going back and forth. So I would rather having limited knowledge but with satisfaction and belief rather than a lot of knowledge with no satisfaction or belief. LOL I am in school and I dont think I have enough time for researching enough.