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Iran Fined $2.65 Billion For Terrorism

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Iran fined $2.65 billion for terrorism

By MATT APUZZO, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 26 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Iran must pay $2.65 billion to the families of the 241 U.S. service members killed in the 1983 bombing of the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut, a federal judge declared Friday in a ruling that left survivors and families shedding tears of joy.

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U.S. District Judge Royce C. Lamberth described his ruling as the largest-ever such judgment by an American court against another country. "These individuals, whose hearts and souls were forever broken, waited patiently for nearly a quarter century for justice to be done," he said.

Iran has been blamed for supporting the militant group Hezbollah, which carried out the suicide bombing in Beirut. It was the worst terrorist act against U.S. targets until the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

Hundreds of people crowded into a federal courtroom to hear Friday's ruling. Parents have grown old since their children were killed. Siblings have grown into middle-age. Children have married and started families of their own.

Weeping spectators stood and erupted in applause and hugs as Lamberth left the bench.

The ruling allows nearly 1,000 family members and a handful of survivors to try to collect Iranian assets from various sources around the world. Finding and seizing that money will be difficult, however, and the families are backing a law in Congress that would make it easier for terrorism victims and their families to do so.

Families were encouraged by Libya's decision to ultimately accept responsibility for the 1988 bombing of a Pan Am flight over Scotland. The country, once a pariah by Washington's view, agreed to compensate the families of the 270 victims. Part of the $2.7 billion has been paid. A final $2 million installment to each family is outstanding.

"This is a sense of victory, of winning a battle," said Paul Rivers, who was a 20-year-old enlisted Marine on the second floor of the barracks when it exploded. "When we win the war is when we collect, when we make them pay for what they did."

Iran has denied responsibility for the attack. The nation did not respond to the 6-year-old lawsuit and was represented only by an empty table.

Family members said they hoped Friday's ruling would pressure foreign governments not to sponsor terrorism. Lynn Smith Derbyshire, whose brother, Vincent Smith, was killed in the attack, said countries won't stop until "it begins to actually cost them money to kill Americans."

Some disagreed about whether that will happen. Roxanne Garcia-Bates, who was 16 when her brother, Randy Garcia, was killed, said she was surprised to find a sense of comfort being with the other families in court. She said she was pleased that Lamberth had made such a strong statement, but doubted that Iran would change anytime soon.

"You can't take enough money away to get them to stop what they're doing," she said.

All agreed that emotions remain raw to this day.

Rivers described being one of the second floor's five survivors. All but him lost arms or legs, he said. He was buried in the rubble for two hours, he said. Debris had punctured his eardrum and "I literally had rocks inside my head."

Shirley Murry of Baltimore, who was 16 years old at the time, described the tense days of waiting around the television for word of her brother, Ulysses Parker. Today, every time the news carries a story about a fallen soldier or an explosion overseas, she said it's like that first day all over again.

Lamberth said the law "offers a meager attempt to make the surviving members whole." He said he hoped the judgment would alert Iran that terrorism has consequences and help in the families' healing process. Pausing, he added:

"That's all I can do."

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Keep dreaming! If this is justice then start paying up for the number of civilians killed by US and Israel and see how much the total comes to. I sure do hope that Israel and US have very deep pockets because they might end up on the aid charts given their track record.

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Keep dreaming! If this is justice then start paying up for the number of civilians killed by US and Israel and see how much the total comes to. I sure do hope that Israel and US have very deep pockets because they might end up on the aid charts given their track record.

US and Israel are not a terror entity like the way Iran is by supporting a terrorist group. Thus accidental killings cannot be put in the same level as Muslims using terrorism to kill people.

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US and Israel are not a terror entity like the way Iran is by supporting a terrorist group.

You really need to research before you talk.

MKO and PEJAK are two known groups that US are funding at the moment against Iran. And did you forget the killings carried out by Saddam for more than a decade, who funded him during the 8 year war? Who made him all high and mighty? Was it not US?

How about the killing of Rachel Corrie, a support worker killed by Israeli snipers in occupied Palestine? I guess that is not an act of terrorism eh. Israel has killed enough terrorism acts themselves they do not need a group to do it for them because big daddy US can stop all resolutions in UN hence lets roam free and get trigger happy! Remember Qana? Was that accidental? :lol: please give me a break! That is an enough to suggest their terrorism.

Oh lastly who funded and formed Al Qaeda and who still has links with them? Is it not CIA? Yea right US and Israel do not support terrorism or terrorist groups!

I will believe your statement when I can see pigs fly!

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US and Israel are not a terror entity like the way Iran is by supporting a terrorist group. Thus accidental killings cannot be put in the same level as Muslims using terrorism to kill people.

Oh really?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0mCydl8KP0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuTdwHk2QS4

There is NO excuse for killing hundreds and hundreds of innocent children.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J98SIyhHqtY...ted&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?search=&m...p;v=0Py_cMPyku4 - they dont even know who they shoot at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9A_vxIOB-I u.s. troops 'liberating' iraq by messing with people their own age and size.

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lets also not forget the conditions of that time. the u.s. marines were not wanted in beirut, and they were firing missiles into the mountains above beirut, naturally you become an enemy when you're on someone elses land doing that. even the marines didnt know why they were still there.

hizballah never even said they did it. its just an accusation, nothing more than that. hizballah has never hidden what they do, why would they need to do that? they tape their missions and show them to the world for proof! why would they not be so proud about this one? when you show me proof other than accussations ill believe it.

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I wish our dead were valued this way.

Curious how the compensation offered by the US for Iraqi civilians that they kill is a few hundred dollars, but the life of an American is measured in tens of millions of dollars.

This is just an excuse to pile on the pressure on Iran.

The story is slowly working its way through the courts - but in 2008 you'll probably see Lockerbie blamed on Iran as well.

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Curious how the compensation offered by the US for Iraqi civilians that they kill is a few hundred dollars, but the life of an American is measured in tens of millions of dollars.

This is just an excuse to pile on the pressure on Iran.

The story is slowly working its way through the courts - but in 2008 you'll probably see Lockerbie blamed on Iran as well.

Lockerbie has already been blamed on Iran. Gaddafi insists he had nothing to do with it, but paid the compensation because it was in his countries economic interest just to take the blame.

I almost can believe the Iranians did Lockerbie, as revenge for the above link I posted. Well, at least I wouldn't put it passed them.

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Iran has been blamed for supporting the militant group Hezbollah, which carried out the suicide bombing in Beirut. It was the worst terrorist act against U.S. targets until the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

Only problem is that it has never been proven that Hizbollah was involved in the attack. American intelligence officials admit that they have "no idea" to this day who was responsible. Hizbollah has been a convenient scapegoat for years. This BS ruling is pure politicking, nothing more.

On the other hand, as mentioned by others, there are documented links of American intelligence services to thousdands, if not millions of deaths in the past century. Let's call it an even million people. Well, keeping consistent with the rate of $$ten million a head set by this ruling, the US can distribute $ten trillion to the victims of the schemes its money has paid for.

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I recalled the incident but not the compensation. It does not not effect my point though, the US made it clear it was not paying because it had to, and the ruling was made by an international court, not a Iranian one.

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US and Israel are not a terror entity like the way Iran is by supporting a terrorist group. Thus accidental killings cannot be put in the same level as Muslims using terrorism to kill people.

Well it depends what your definition of terrorism is and what conditions you use to get to that definition and then apply that to see wether Iran is a Terrorist entity or not. For us Muslims what the US does is more closer to Terrorism than that which al Qaeda or Hezbollah does. Basic fact is that the US has been invading and medling in countries which it does not have power in for decades and the premise of Democracy is laughable considering the fact that they have even invaded many Democracy's and organise coup's which have resulted in dictatorships.

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Sorry Delta. :( And terrorism is usually simply violence by somebody you do not like. It can also mean acts carried out by a non-state group against civilian targets for the purpose of influencing public policy. Trying to say if such and such a group is 'terrorist' is waste of time usually, since people usually believe anything bad they hear about a group they dislike, and anything good they hear about a group they like. Prejudice is thus self-reinforcing.

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This is just political timing as they're trying to massively brain-wash society into thinking Iran is evil and guilty for everything.

- What about the US government's crimes in aiding and protecting Saddam which led to millions being murdered?

- What about Hiroshima?

- What about Agent Orange; chemical bombing civilians in Vietnam? Which to this day vietnamese people still have cancer resulted from the US's chemical weapons attacks.

- US military shot down an Iranian civilian passenger air-bus.

The list goes on, I think the counter sues would leave them owing past trillions of dollars.

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Same reason how al-Qaeda's bombing of an Iranian bus carrying Revolutionary Guards is considered terrorism by many on the boards.

Actually, the vast majority of people on SC agreed that it wasn't an act of terrorism. An inbred yank ran into a thread shouting "OH NOES HYPOPOTACRACY TEH MUSLIMS - TERRORISM?!" , despite us all agreeing that it wasn't.

As for the payout - good luck trying to get the money :lol:. Perhaps you can ask your new best friend Khatami to use his amazing influence in Iran to get it for you? Or perhaps some students will do your bidding.

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US and Israel are not a terror entity like the way Iran is by supporting a terrorist group. Thus accidental killings cannot be put in the same level as Muslims using terrorism to kill people.

Accidental???!!!

Iraq War Vets Talk About Random Civilian Killings http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f6c_1189246422

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US and Israel are not a terror entity like the way Iran is by supporting a terrorist group.

You really need to research before you talk.

MKO and PEJAK are two known groups that US are funding at the moment against Iran.

What's even worse is the fact that the MKO actually features on America's list of terrorist organizations.

One count on harbouring terrorists, one more on funding them.

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