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Is Music Forbidden In Shia Islam?

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I may have asked this question a while ago, in fact I think I probably did, but it was not its own topic. Only a very limited number of answers were given.

I've searched the net and came to no answer about music in Shia Islam.

Is it forbidden. Why or why not? And what Hadith says this?

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Assalamu ‘Alaikum Warah Matullahi Wabarakatuh Jafarr Here are some traditions that may be of interest to you, regarding the issue of music: Hazrat Imam Ali ar-Reza (a.s.) remarks, "A person invites D

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I am a classically trained musician, and music is my life. According to some people that follow Sistani, classical music is permissible, whereas anything that is not meant for the purpose of art is h

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According to Ayatollah Sistani (ra) music that is used as entertainment and amusement gatherings is haraam. "Permissible music is the music that is not suitable for such gatherings, even if it does not soothe the nerves (emotional or mental state)..."

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Meaning all music is haraam except for which that is NOT suitable for entertainment or amusement gatherings

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Of course Music is haram in Shia Islam.

A famous hadith I heard from a scholar say that one of the Imams (as) narrated that listening to music was like slapping your Imam Ali (as) on the face. That's how bad music can be.

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I have a question about Shabbir_Hussain's picture of the Imams... are you sure it's halal to have pictures of the Imams?

I mean, we're not allowed to have pictures of the Prophets...

alot of shias say no, I'm not sure if there is evidence to if you are allowd or not

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Some hadiths to prove music harm quote the qawlal zoor aya and also aya about the poets, and so if you look about the poet aya, it makes exception to those who believe and do good... also qawlal zoor shows the nature of the music at that time, so when used for right purpose, some see it as not haram, for example, revolutionary anasheed in lebanon, is seen as not haram

there hadiths and I think it's also historical fact, that Dawood (as) And Auli-Dawood (as) used music and the nature of the zaboor was that it was sang with music, anyways - it depends on what Marjaa you follow I guess

In Iran and Lebanon, Islamic anasheed is encouraged. Also asked a Sheikh in my city who is Shirazi and who I respect, and he told me if for Islamic purpose it's alright.

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Assalamu ‘Alaikum Warah Matullahi Wabarakatuh Jafarr

Here are some traditions that may be of interest to you, regarding the issue of music:

Hazrat Imam Ali ar-Reza (a.s.) remarks,

"A person invites Divine wrath when in his house instruments like flute, drum and chess are played for forty days. If this man dies within these forty days, his death would be of a sinner and a transgressor. His place shall be in Hell. And what a dreadful place it is!"

(Mustanad al Taraqi)

The Holy Prophet (s.a.w.s.) has stated,

"A person who possesses a sitar, on the day of Qiyamat will be raised with a black face. His hands will be holding a sitar of fire. Seventy thousand angels with maces of fire will be hitting him on the face and the head. The singer will arise from his grave, blind, deaf and dumb. The adulterer will be similarly raised. The player of flute will also be made to rise in this way as will be the drum player."

(Mustadrakul Wasael)

Hazrat Imam Ali ar-Reza (a.s.) has said,

"To listen to a musical instrument is one of the Greater Sins."

(Mustadrakul Wasael)

Amirul Momineen Ali (a.s.) says,

"Angels do not even enter a house that has wine, drum, tambourine or a flute. Even the prayers of the inhabitants of this house are unacceptable. They are deprived of barakat."

(Wasaelush Shia)

The Holy Prophet (s.a.w.s.) has also said,

"The Almighty Allah has sent me as a mercy to the worlds, to guide the people. And He ordered me to eradicate the playing of flute and other instruments of music, all games of vice, idol (worship) and all practices of the days of ignorance."

(Mustadrakul Wasael, Chapter 79)

Imam Ja'far as-Sadiq (a.s.) reports from the Holy Prophet (s.a.w.s.) that he said:

"I prohibit for you dancing and playing flute, drums and tabla."

(Al Kafi)

Imam Ja'far as-Sadiq (a.s.) has also said,

“Even learning to sing or play music and teaching it, to sing and play music, to be paid for these things or to be in any way engrossed in these vices is Haraam."

(Tohafful Uqool)

The sixth Holy Imam, Imam Ja'far as-Sadiq (a.s.) said,

"Listening to music, songs and useless words cultivate hypocrisy in the heart, in the same way as algae grows in water."

(Al Kafi)

Al Kafi mentions a tradition of Imam as-Sadiq (a.s.) that,

"Singing and music is a nest for the bird called hypocrisy."

Imam Ja'far as-Sadiq (a.s.) says:

"The house where music is played is not safe from sudden disasters. Supplications at such a place are not answered. Angels do not enter this place."

The Holy Prophet (s.a.w.s.) is quoted to have said:

"Molten lead shall be poured into the ears of one who listens to songs, intently."

(Mustadrakul Wasael)

It is also narrated from Imam Ja'far as-Sadiq (a.s.) that he said,

"Whenever a person begins singing, two satans mount on his shoulders and continue to hit their heels upon his chest, till the time he sings the song."

Hazrat Imam Ali Ibn Musa ar-Reza (a.s.) said,

"One who avoids songs shall be provided by Allah, a tree, which will produce such a melodious sound as has never been heard by anyone. But the one who has not kept himself aloof from songs will not be able to hear this sound."

(Al Kafi)

The following tradition of Allah's Messenger (s.a.w.s.) is recorded in the book Tafseer Majmaul Bayan,

"One who has listened to too many songs will not be able to hear the Ruhaanis on the Day of Qiyamat."

"Who are the Ruhaanis, O Prophet of Allah (s.a.w.s.)?" someone asked.

The Prophet (s.a.w.s.) replied,

"They are the melodious singers of Heaven."

A similar tradition from Hazrat Ali (a.s.) is found in Nahjul Balagha,

"Hazrat Dawood (a.s.) will be the chief of the singers of Paradise."

(Nahjul Balagha)

"The people will listen to such melodious songs from Hazrat Dawood (a.s.) in Heaven, the like of which have never been heard by anyone. However only those who have refrained from listening to songs in this world would be able to hear them."

The Holy Prophet (s.a.w.s.) said:

"Singing is the stepping stone to fornication."

(Mustadrakul Wasael)

Imam Ja'far as-Sadiq (a.s.) says,

"And all those wasteful pastimes are haraam which make one forgetful of Allah; like songs and playing musical instruments."

The traditions concerning the signs of the last stage before the Zuhoor of our Imam (a.s.) mention music:

"And you shall see that music will be so prevalent that no one will dissuade others nor will he find in himself the need to do so. And you shall see that music would be openly played even in the two sanctuaries (the city of Makkah and Madinah)."

(Mustanade Naraqi)

Much of the "popular" music abundant in general society today in my opinion features:

-Severe amounts of violence almost to a sadistic level

-Constant derogatory references to women

-Encouragement of the intake of intoxicants

-Encouragement to seek fornication

-The creation of wild romantic fantasies inside the minds of the youth, and influencing them into believing that they can play these fantasies out, in the real world, which can sometimes lead to tragic consequences

Thus not only is the listening to this "popular" music, sinful in itself, it can also act to induce further sinful acts.

There are also hazardous effects upon ones health:

Music has been shown to cause the release of elevated levels of the stress hormone Adrenaline (Epinephrine), which can act to trigger the process of Vasoconstriction, this can lead to:

- Increased blood pressure

- Irregular heart rates

- Profound affects upon the nervous system

Independently, high levels of music have been shown to induce medical stress reactions, which is obviously expected, due to Adrenaline release. Other proven effects of music listening are increased frequency of headaches, fatigue, stomach ulcers and vertigo.

I would like to strongly emphasise that the music I have referred to in this post, is music that is currently being utilized in sinful entertainment and amusement gatherings, and most certainly not the Islamic Anasheeds and poetry recitals.

I hope i have been of assistance. Regards

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I have a question about Shabbir_Hussain's picture of the Imams... are you sure it's halal to have pictures of the Imams?

I mean, we're not allowed to have pictures of the Prophets...

In general, most Shia scholars say it's permissible to draw pictures that protray the Imam (as), but it's haram to actually claim or believe that the drawings are really the Imams (as).

it's haram to listen to music? i so did not know that. I know some people did not listen to it. But wow.

In general, music is haram. However, there are certain songs (that do no inact entertainment, corruption, etc) that are deemed halal. But, it depends on the song you listen to, so you should ask your scholar.

However, Islamic music (nasheeds, etc) are halal, but have its limits.

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Sis :lol:. Don't worry about the slighest of things. There are many young brothers and sisters in Shia Islam that are addicted to music, and can't seem to avoid the lust. They are well aware that the type of music they listen to is haram, but they can't seem to get a grip on the addict. It's very common among Muslim teens.

I assume your also a young (16-17 year old) teenager still struggling to maintain her strong faith, like me, and everyone else. So, don't worry about it, because others have it worse. As long as your aware of how sin can hurt you, and try your best to avoid that cause, Allah (swt) is always merciful and beneficient.

Take care :)

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Your welcome :).

I'm flattered to hear that.

Thanks for providing those hadiths with us, I have passed it on to my local youth group. I think that music is a growing problem in our muslim communities unfortunately, its really easy to get into music, and it takes a lot of willpower, especially when you are rolling with your buddies and they are listening to music, to tell them to turn it off

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In general, most Shia scholars say it's permissible to draw pictures that protray the Imam , but it's haram to actually claim or believe that the drawings are really the Imams .

Hmm.. Isn't that a bit contradictory ?

"Everyone agrees that it's Ok to draw the Imams [as], but not Rasullallah [saw] (despite the fact that the both have the same status in Islam ?).. but just not claim it's them.. or even, believe it's them" - in which case, you don't believe it's the Imams in picture, and thus it isn't ?

IMHO, Since in Shia Islam, both the Imams [as] and Rasullallah [saw] are Masoom, any ruling on their potrayal, needs to be consistent for both. Thus, since one is not allowed, I cannot see the logic in allowing the other also. :huh:

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I am a classically trained musician, and music is my life. According to some people that follow Sistani, classical music is permissible, whereas anything that is not meant for the purpose of art is haram.

I mean, is it haram to perform Beethoven's Piano Concerto no. 4 with the New York Philharmonic at Carnegie? Come on...

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^ No, you are mistaken, the Sayyed (ha) allows the same with a condition:

Q107: Is it permissible to hang portraits of the Prophet (S), and Imams (a.s.) in the house? Is it correct to believe that they are their (a.s.) pictures?

A: It is permissible to hang them. But to believe that they (portraits) are in accordance with them (a.s.) is certainly a wrong belief. (FM, p. 418)

Q108: Some directors release historical films about the Prophet (S) or the Imams (a.s.). Is it permissible to represent the noble Prophet (S) before the people in his role as the Prophet (S), or to represent the Imam (a.s.) in his role as the Imam (a.s.)? If the answer is in the affirmative, is it necessary for the one representing them to be a believer (muímin)?

A: It is permissible to represent them (a.s.) provided that it does not impugn their noble station and sacred personalities ó be it in the future ó in the eyes of the people. It is quite likely that the attributes and characteristics of the one playing the role will have some influence in this. (FM, pp. 418-19)

http://www.najaf.org/english/book/2/inside/33.htm

The Persian Shah

The ruling is consistent for all ma3Sumeen (as).

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About music and singing, according to Sayyed Sistani (ha):

http://www.najaf.org/english/book/5/inside/54.htm

http://www.najaf.org/english/book/5/inside/55.htm

Wa'Salam

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Your welcome :).

I'm flattered to hear that.

Salaam Alaykum

Imam Ali (as) says:

"Praising a person more than he deserves is worthless flattery. And saying less than what he deserves reflects jealousy."

Imam Ali (as) also says:

"Never allow anyone to flatter you and to give you credit for any good that you may not have done; for the tolerance of flattery and unhealthy praise stimulates pride in man and makes him arrogant."

Wa Salaam.

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Some hadiths to prove music harm quote the qawlal zoor aya and also aya about the poets, and so if you look about the poet aya, it makes exception to those who believe and do good... also qawlal zoor shows the nature of the music at that time, so when used for right purpose, some see it as not haram, for example, revolutionary anasheed in lebanon, is seen as not haram

there hadiths and I think it's also historical fact, that Dawood (as) And Auli-Dawood (as) used music and the nature of the zaboor was that it was sang with music, anyways - it depends on what Marjaa you follow I guess

In Iran and Lebanon, Islamic anasheed is encouraged. Also asked a Sheikh in my city who is Shirazi and who I respect, and he told me if for Islamic purpose it's alright.

with salams

WA wr wb

Who said Prophets sang? I think this is another misconception. Check the link below for some hadiths.

http://www.ummah.net/khoei/wabil/music1.htm

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Actually it's decided by Allah swt and taught through our Holy Prophet and Imams (pbut), as was provided in this thread numerous hadeeth.

Hopefully we are not going to start a new Usulli-Akhbari debate here :)

Yes, it's decided by Allah (swt) & taught by the ma'sumin (as). But since I don't have the capability of law derivation, I follow marjas whose specialty I can depend on (once again, the doctor analogy).

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Actually it's decided by Allah swt and taught through our Holy Prophet and Imams (pbut), as was provided in this thread numerous hadeeth.

I think it's more than safe to say that these maraja probably are as aware of the ahadith corpus or more than you or anyone else here. If they say there are not grounds to make blanket statements about ALL music, then I'm sure they have their good reasons.

So the answer to the original poster. If you want to ask a black and white question, i.e. "Is music (i.e. ALL of it) haraam?" The answer is NO. Only some music is. Other music is OK or even good for you.

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I think it's more than safe to say that these maraja probably are as aware of the ahadith corpus or more than you or anyone else here. If they say there are not grounds to make blanket statements about ALL music, then I'm sure they have their good reasons.

So the answer to the original poster. If you want to ask a black and white question, i.e. "Is music (i.e. ALL of it) haraam?" The answer is NO. Only some music is. Other music is OK or even good for you.

I agree, I never said all music is haram. I agree fully with the large majority of ulama, music for merrymaking activities and dancing activities is haram. So classical is ok, also anasheed if I am not mistaken.

Wasalam bro

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I agree, I never said all music is haram. I agree fully with the large majority of ulama, music for merrymaking activities and dancing activities is haram. So classical is ok, also anasheed if I am not mistaken.
If you are Twelver.

I know, a majority of us are Twelver. Still, it should be emphasised, not everyone is.

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I agree, I never said all music is haram. I agree fully with the large majority of ulama, music for merrymaking activities and dancing activities is haram. So classical is ok, also anasheed if I am not mistaken.

Wasalam bro

Bro. Salaams.

I just wanted to ask. What is 'classical' music? Are we talking about goras (white people) wearing wigs and stockings? Like Brahms, Bach and Beethoven? What I find funny about the term 'classical' is that AIUI in his time Bach was not classical at all, he was quite revolutionary. If classical means old, does that mean that 300 years from now Michael Jackson will be classical?

My concern is that the formula that I hear being repeated over and over is that the music should not be suitable for 'gatherings of entertainment'. Now in the age of ipods, what you need to bear in mind is that ALL classical music, when it was created, WAS specifically for gatherings of amusement. That is how it was heard, in a concert.

I've flagged up my position in other threads on music, so I am not going to go over all that again. But it does strike me that sometimes people use terms like 'classical' as a shorthand and when you probe a little bit more things are a bit messier than they may seem.

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I'm curious why so many writers claim that "all" mujtahids say music is completely haram, when that is far from the case? As we know, Ayatollah Jannaati, Ayatollah Fadlallah and more say something different about music. Yet articles like this one continue to get published:

http://www.imamreza.net/eng/imamreza.php?id=5300

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Salamalaikum,

If I ever start writing books, I will name the first "The 100 Versions of Islam", the second would be "Everyone is their own Imam"

Ya Ali Madad

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At minimum, there are restrictions on the type and purpose of music that is allowed. According to some scholars, all music is prohibited.

I'm still a little unclear on the definition of "ghina". I interpret "suitable for gatherings of entertainment" to mean "suitable for gatherings of debauchery and/or immoral activity" due to the fact that my marja allows classical and some other types of music, and I can't figure out any purpose in going to a classical music performance except for entertainment.

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Salamalaikum,

If I ever start writing books, I will name the first "The 100 Versions of Islam", the second would be "Everyone is their own Imam"

Ya Ali Madad

Surely you won't forget to include yourself in there now.

Bro. Salaams.

I just wanted to ask. What is 'classical' music? Are we talking about goras (white people) wearing wigs and stockings? Like Brahms, Bach and Beethoven? What I find funny about the term 'classical' is that AIUI in his time Bach was not classical at all, he was quite revolutionary. If classical means old, does that mean that 300 years from now Michael Jackson will be classical?

My concern is that the formula that I hear being repeated over and over is that the music should not be suitable for 'gatherings of entertainment'. Now in the age of ipods, what you need to bear in mind is that ALL classical music, when it was created, WAS specifically for gatherings of amusement. That is how it was heard, in a concert.

I've flagged up my position in other threads on music, so I am not going to go over all that again. But it does strike me that sometimes people use terms like 'classical' as a shorthand and when you probe a little bit more things are a bit messier than they may seem.

My prime example is a music by man called "Yanni". Look him up and listen to one of his songs. No lyrics of course, he only uses piano at a slow and mellow pace. I've asked Imam Khamenei (as) this, and on top of the merrymaking and gathering issue, he also said any music that takes you away from thinking of Allah swt and leads to carelessness and forgetfulness of Allah swt.

I don't really listen to it, but when I do, it soothes the soul, and actually makes me think of Allah swt because I'm very calm and he immediately enters my mind :)

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