What Is The Shia Opinion Of Malcolm X?

[bobthebuilder]

Malcolm X is one of the biggest reasons i reverted back to Islam.

My question is, what is the Shia belief of him?

By the way, before someone asks, Malcolm was Sunni, not Nation of Islam.

Edited May 3, 2007 by bobthebuilder

[Cyan_Garamond]

Malcolm X is one of the biggest reasons i reverted back to Islam.

My question is, what is the Shia belief of him?

By the way, before someone asks, Malcolm was Sunni, not Nation of Islam.

There is no 'Shia opinion'. God shall judge him.

[Mauricegirodias]

Well said. Allah is the best of judges.

[rahat]

His work towards the end of his life was very positive and good.

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rahat

[hussainak]

Certainly Allah is the best of judges. Onemust lissen to Malcom X's "By Any Means Necessary" speech, truly enlightening

[~sweet~]

^Could you provide a link for that speech

[Rawshni]

His work towards the end of his life was very positive and good.

-

rahat

Could you expand on that, please

[hussainak]

^Could you provide a link for that speech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upHF-WpmacQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVG3gaANAys

Edited May 4, 2007 by hussainak

[Advocate of Islam]

(bismillah)

(salam)

There was a documentary on one of the Islamic channels in the UK about him the other night.

I did not watch all of it but what I did see he sounded like he hated the White people because of the slave trade; he was endorsing the Nation of Islam,

He said the white man had taken away the black mans identity by making them slaves. Islam had given them their Identity back. What every, he did or said, and what sect of Islam he followed is for God to judge not us but I do think he had a lot of hatred for white men in him as did a lot of black people of that time.

[Muslimah_IBe]

(bismillah)

(salam)

There was a documentary on one of the Islamic channels in the UK about him the other night.

I did not watch all of it but what I did see he sounded like he hated the White people because of the slave trade; he was endorsing the Nation of Islam,

He said the white man had taken away the black mans identity by making them slaves. Islam had given them their Identity back. What every, he did or said, and what sect of Islam he followed is for God to judge not us but I do think he had a lot of hatred for white men in him as did a lot of black people of that time.

(salam)

It may be beneficial to try to finish the documentary --better yet read the autobiography. What you think about him may change by the end of it - or not. Allahu alim.

[Advocate of Islam]

(salam)

It may be beneficial to try to finish the documentary --better yet read the autobiography. What you think about him may change by the end of it - or not. Allahu alim.

true but I had a banging migrain and went to bed other wise I would have watched it all!

I had only said my opinon on the few minutes that I had watch, it would be nice to know if anyone else saw the documentary and what they thought!

[Isa Abdullah]

Assalaamu Alaikum

He was from the Nation of Islam. He is one of the reasons why people converted to it in the first place.

But yes later he rejected it when he went for Hajj, and he entered the fold of al-Islam.

But he was assasinated by the Nation of Islam and FBI after just a couple of months or less.

[bobthebuilder]

There was a documentary on one of the Islamic channels in the UK about him the other night.

I did not watch all of it but what I did see he sounded like he hated the White people because of the slave trade; he was endorsing the Nation of Islam,

He said the white man had taken away the black mans identity by making them slaves. Islam had given them their Identity back. What every, he did or said, and what sect of Islam he followed is for God to judge not us but I do think he had a lot of hatred for white men in him as did a lot of black people of that time.

I've made it a mini goal in my life to make sure Malcolm X isn't misunderstood.

He doesnt hate white people near the end of his life because of the hajj.

Read This Letter From Him After He Went To Hajj.

What follows is a letter (in part or in whole) from Malcolm X, known here as Al-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz, to his followers in Harlem. It was reprinted in The Autobiography of Malcolm X by Alex Haley.

Never have I witnessed such sincere hospitality and overwhelming spirit of true brotherhood as is practiced by people of all colors and races here in this ancient Holy Land, the home of Abraham, Muhammad and all the other Prophets of the Holy Scriptures. For the past week, I have been utterly speechless and spellbound by the graciousness I see displayed all around me by people of all colors.

I have been blessed to visit the Holy City of Mecca, I have made my seven circuits around the Ka'ba, led by a young Mutawaf named Muhammad, I drank water from the well of the Zam Zam. I ran seven times back and forth between the hills of Mt. Al-Safa and Al Marwah. I have prayed in the ancient city of Mina, and I have prayed on Mt. Arafat.

There were tens of thousands of pilgrims, from all over the world. They were of all colors, from blue-eyed blondes to black-skinned Africans. But we were all participating in the same ritual, displaying a spirit of unity and brotherhood that my experiences in America had led me to believe never could exist between the white and non-white.

America needs to understand Islam, because this is the one religion that erases from its society the race problem. Throughout my travels in the Muslim world, I have met, talked to, and even eaten with people who in America would have been considered white - but the white attitude was removed from their minds by the religion of Islam. I have never before seen sincere and true brotherhood practiced by all colors together, irrespective of their color.

You may be shocked by these words coming from me. But on this pilgrimage, what I have seen, and experienced, has forced me to rearrange much of my thought-patterns previously held, and to toss aside some of my previous conclusions. This was not too difficult for me. Despite my firm convictions, I have always been a man who tries to face facts, and to accept the reality of life as new experience and new knowledge unfolds it. I have always kept an open mind, which is necessary to the flexibility that must go hand in hand with every form of intelligent search for truth.

During the past eleven days here in the Muslim world, I have eaten from the same plate, drunk from the same glass, and slept on the same rug - while praying to the same God - with fellow Muslims, whose eyes were the bluest of blue, whose hair was the blondest of blond, and whose skin was the whitest of white. And in the words and in the deeds of the white Muslims, I felt the same sincerity that I felt among the black African Muslims of Nigeria, Sudan and Ghana.

We were truly all the same (brothers) - because their belief in one God had removed the white from their minds, the white from their behavior, and the white from their attitude.

I could see from this, that perhaps if white Americans could accept the Oneness of God, then perhaps, too, they could accept in reality the Oneness of Man - and cease to measure, and hinder, and harm others in terms of their 'differences' in color.

With racism plaguing America like an incurable cancer, the so-called 'Christian' white American heart should be more receptive to a proven solution to such a destructive problem. Perhaps it could be in time to save America from imminent disaster - the same destruction brought upon Germany by racism that eventually destroyed the Germans themselves.

Each hour here in the Holy Land enables me to have greater spiritual insights into what is happening in America between black and white. The American Negro never can be blamed for his racial animosities - he is only reacting to four hundred years of the conscious racism of the American whites. But as racism leads America up the suicide path, I do believe, from the experiences that I have had with them, that the whites of the younger generation, in the colleges and universities, will see the handwriting on the walls and many of them will turn to the spiritual path of truth - the only way left to America to ward off the disaster that racism inevitably must lead to.

Never have I been so highly honored. Never have I been made to feel more humble and unworthy. Who would believe the blessings that have been heaped upon an American Negro? A few nights ago, a man who would be called in America a white man, a United Nations diplomat, an ambassador, a companion of kings, gave me his hotel suite, his bed. Never would I have even thought of dreaming that I would ever be a recipient of such honors - honors that in America would be bestowed upon a King - not a Negro.

All praise is due to Allah, the Lord of all the Worlds.

Sincerely,

Al-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz

(Malcolm X changed his name to Malik El-Shabazz after he went to Hajj)

Edited May 4, 2007 by bobthebuilder

[Muslimah_IBe]

true but I had a banging migrain and went to bed other wise I would have watched it all!

I had only said my opinon on the few minutes that I had watch, it would be nice to know if anyone else saw the documentary and what they thought!

I get those crazy horrible migraines, from time to time, too akhi/ukhti :no: !!! I really hope you are feeling much better, inshaAllah. Hope this helps: :) . Be well, inshaAllah!

wasalaam,

your sister

P.S. Hajji Malik alshabazz (aka Malcolm X) reminds me of the average muslim, though he was extraordinary considering his society, community, and circumstances. He was yet another example of how we, as muslims, can face our faults and misguidance of the past - regardless of how many other people witnessed it - and still admit our mistakes while trying to turn toward Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala. It's very basic, yet so beautiful, mashaAllah.

[mirch_masala]

No particular opinion. Matters are now between him and Allah

[Jinn]

We Jinns aren't an opinionated lot like you humans are.

[Rawshni]

^

Now. now, isn't that an "opinion" Herr Jinn?

[only1]

i dont know how i'd view him as a religious leader, but his orating skills *amazing* i admire that in him :angel:

[Fiasco]

He was a wonderful leader. I have nothing but respect for him, for all he did and all he could have done if he wasn't assassinated.

[only1]

^

so true, i always hate it when a great orator is murdered

[Fiasco]

^

so true, i always hate it when a great orator is murdered

uummm...ookk :huh:

[Wisdom Lion]

He was a true hero of humanity. I consider him up there along with Ayatollah Khomeini as one of the most important and wisest figures of the past century

[Ali-F]

He was a true hero of humanity. I consider him up there along with Ayatollah Khomeini as one of the most important and wisest figures of the past century

 

Salam my respected brother. May Allah bless you. 

 

If I may ask, my dear brother: Do you compare Sayed Khomeini with  Malcom?

[Marbles]

Old thread, old members.

 

*nostalgia* :cry:

[Wisdom Lion]

Salam my respected brother. May Allah bless you. 

 

If I may ask, my dear brother: Do you compare Sayed Khomeini with  Malcom?

Yeah I do. Malcolm X lived in the area Ayatollah Khomeini described as the Satan. Ayatollah Khomeini never went to the United States. Can you imagine how much more we would admire Ayatollah Sayyed Khomeini if he lived in the United States and spoke with the truth and courage as he did already? Malcolm X was blessed by Allah.

Malcolm X stood in the face of adversity with the truth in the way no average person had except for Imam Hussain A.S. who of course is the greatest martyr. Malcolm X was a martyr as well.

Malcolm X is the greatest American to have lived so far. He told everybody the true history of Africans while whites were still trying to brainwash blacks. Read the Autobiography of Malcolm X . Truly an amazing book.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENHP89mLWOY

How do I post youtube videos in a post? not the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNsWyZ0mLAA more wise words

Edited January 13, 2014 by SLeePY

[CLynn]

It is always scary to me, the people that idolize Malcolm X.

If you must idolize someone why not Martin Luther King Jr.  At least he was never a thug.  He was a good man of God who achieved more good than Malcolm X ever did.

[Wisdom Lion]

It is always scary to me, the people that idolize Malcolm X.

If you must idolize someone why not Martin Luther King Jr.  At least he was never a thug.  He was a good man of God who achieved more good than Malcolm X ever did.

MLK plagiarized work, he was a cheat. MLK was against humanity. He preached turning the other cheek in the face of a tyrant. He wanted integration, Malcolm X was against integration because he knew the whites would never ever let blacks be equal. 

He was 100% correct. Blacks should have listened to Malcolm X. The media, music labels all have black rappers with black women dancing half naked in music videos, lyrics calling them horrible names, encouraging killing, violence, shooting, drugs, drinking. Or they are glorifying athletes. Never intellectuals though for blacks. They have a black entertainment television but no black education television. 

The white elitists were very clever. They realized for global image they had to take care of the 'black problem' so they removed the physical barriers with the expense of blacks and whites intermingling but overall it would be better for US and global image. 

They needed a new venue to maintain power. To always maintain the power balance. They took control of music and entertainment( CEO's of record labels are white or zionist or both) to subjugate the mind of blacks. To keep those black minds in the wrong things. They glorified vices over virtues. 

Why does this affect blacks more? Because blacks don't have any real leaders now. Blacks have white names, their history destroyed, taught for hundreds of years as being lower than whites. Why do they glorify black rappers that talk about black women as b**** in videos and athletes? Because that's the road they want blacks to take. 

Someone as brainwashed, closed minded like you can never see this. Because Allah has a veil upon you, judging by your previous posts its likely this veil will remain.

Malcolm X= If someone attacks you, respond with self defense. Do not be transgressor. 

MLK= If a tyrant is killing your people and harming you, turn the other cheek

And you said Malcolm X is scary? Lol I think the afterlife is gonne be bad for you clynn. You spit venom where ever you go.

[hasanhh]

It is difficult to get a perspective on Malcolm X  without knowing something about "Elijah Mohammad" and his starting the nation-of-islam.

For one thing, a basic premise of "Elijah Mohammad" was that the whites "stole" the Africans' religion.

Edited May 26, 2022 by Hameedeh
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[Reza]

It is always scary to me, the people that idolize Malcolm X.

If you must idolize someone why not Martin Luther King Jr.  At least he was never a thug.  He was a good man of God who achieved more good than Malcolm X ever did.

 

Knowing you, I'm not surprised...

[CLynn]

 Never intellectuals though for blacks. They have a black entertainment television but no black education television.

 

Greetings Sleepy,

 

I guess you've no familiarity with Bill Cosby or Oprah Winfrey, to name just two.  The opportunity was equally there for them and they are both highly respected people.  I'm sure I could think of more.

LeVar Burton does lots of educational shows.  I'm sure there are plenty of black lawyers and doctors, as well as engineers, etc.  They're not likely to be in the news though are they?  Unless they do something wrong... so on that note it is a very good thing that they are not in the news.

How about Professor Henry Louis Gates who hosts the show Finding Your Roots?

 

Henry Louis "Skip" Gates, Jr., (born September 16, 1950) is an American literary critic, educator, scholar, writer, and editor. He was the first African American to receive the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation Fellowship. He has received numerous honorary degrees and awards for his teaching, research, and development of academic institutions to study black culture. In 2002, Gates was selected to give the Jefferson Lecture, in recognition of his "distinguished intellectual achievement in the humanities."

Gates has hosted several PBS television miniseries, including the history and travel program Wonders of the African World and the biographical African American Lives and Faces of America. Gates sits on the boards of many notable arts, cultural, and research institutions. He serves as the Alphonse Fletcher University Professor at Harvard University, where he is director of the W. E. B. Du Bois Institute for African and African American Research.

 

 

Integration defused a highly explosive situation in the United States, as also every where in the western world.  The problem with the middle east is that they are still so very segregated and view one another this way, never getting to know one another as individuals.

 

and I'm afraid that you are the one that projects hatred with your every post.

 

Salaam.

Edited January 14, 2014 by CLynn

[Wisdom Lion]

Oprah is a joke. Bill Cosby is a funny guy. Their influence is still small compared to the amount of enormous various media moguls have such as Jay Z, Lil wayne, Drake, Rick Ross, Birdman, Nikki Minaj, French Montana, Kevin Hart and other various figures

You saying Salam is equal to a murderer saying "have a good day" right before he tries to kill someone. Spreading lies, while contradicting oneself by saying "peace" at the same time. You have no concept of what peace is. 

You worship our Prophet Isa peace be upon him. You've been brainwashed by lies of Paul, peter and the hundreds of people who changed the bible thousands of times.

[Reza]

CLynn is the SC equivalent to nails on a chalkboard.

[CLynn]

Truth can be hard to hear.

[Wisdom Lion]

Levar Burton is a good person. His role as Kunta Kinte in Roots also Readinf Rainbow. That is all very small mainstream. Doesn't project or influence that far though. Just because there are black engineers, doctors says nothing about the situation of blacks in America. Like I said, the physical barriers are removed. The mental barriers are there specifically to target black youth.

And to have black youth go on a certain path of singing, twerking, rapping, trying to go into sports.

Integration has made the situation worse. Once before the elitist a publicly demonstrated hatred for blacks and to keep them controlled, the integration resulted in deceptive, subtle, psychological methods of achieving that goal.

The Middle East is a different scenario. It's not based on color of skin, or race. Rather funding by rich corrupt monarchies backed by zionists to keep Muslims fighting.

But of course you're going to delude yourself or actually Allah is going to keep you in the state of ignorance you are in because you won't help yourself.

Apparently the truth is very hard for you to hear, see. You're dead and dumb to the truth.

[Reza]

Truth can be hard to hear.

 

“Truth is on the side of the oppressed.”

― Malcolm X