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a.ali khan hashmi

Hashmi Syed

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does anyone can answer this question tell me that does all hashmi peoples are syed?

becouse im hashmi but we also got the tittle of khan becouse of my family profession,

my dada said that we are hashmi.

but we dont call our self syed.

becouse my family think that syed are only those people who are the descendant of bibi fatima and imam ali.

but hazrat hashim was the great grandfather of imam ali and hazrat muhammad.

and hazrat hashim had (1)asad (2)abu saifi (3)nadla (4)abd-al-muttalib.

so hazrat abdullah father of hazrat muhamad and hazrat abu talib were the sons abd-al-muttalib.

where are those people who are descendant of three other sons of hazrat hashim.

they are hashmi,

so are they syed?

we dont have family shajra.

but im still in confusion please help me if you can.

i think that, syed are those people who's surnames are:

(1)alvi

(2)hassani or gilani

(3)hussaini

(4)abidi or zaidi

(5)jafferi

(6)baqri

(7)mosavi or kazmi

(8)rizvi

(9)naqvi

(10)taqvi

(11)askari

but other peoples like hashmi qureshi and abbasi are not syed.

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Syeds are the offspring of Imam Ali (as) and Lady Fatima (as). Just because you are of Bani Hashim does not necessarily make you Syed. Also, Syeds can have any last name. They do not have to be limited to the names you listed.

Yeah.......i think Akbar673 is rite.

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Syeds are the offspring of Imam Ali (as) and Lady Fatima (as). Just because you are of Bani Hashim does not necessarily make you Syed. Also, Syeds can have any last name. They do not have to be limited to the names you listed.

I agree on it........

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Ok Boss Lekin mujhe ek bat jani hai hashmi qurshi kon hai phir ye bata dooo plz

hum bhi hashmi qurshi hai lekin humara shajra to hazrat imam hussain se milta hia to hum syed nhi hai kia

..

our hai sare imam hazrat ali ki ulad main se hain hazrat muhammad s.a our hazrat ali ko banu hashim kaha jata hai our un ke dada hazrat mutlib ko quraish

is lye hum hashmi qurshi kehlwate hain

jo syed hai wo hashmi qurshi hai jo ye nhi hai wo syed nhi hai

(1)alvi

(2)hassani or gilani

(3)hussaini

(4)abidi or zaidi

(5)jafferi

(6)baqri

(7)mosavi or kazmi

(8)rizvi

(9)naqvi

(10)taqvi

(11)askari

ye sab is lye syed hai ke ye hazrat ali ki ulad main se hain sab ka khandan hashmi hai our qabela  quraish hai ap log jis imam ki ulad main se ho un ka laqab lagate hoo

our hum humare imam jaha se haim wo ches nam ke age lagate hain

ager ap ko zeyada ilm nhi hai to kesi alem se pochoo ok....................... hashmi qurshi syed hote hain abbasi ka mujhe nhi pata.....

sirf hashmi lafz nhi hai hashmi qurshi pora lafz hai ok dear...our ha hum ahle bait ko mane wale hain

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12 Imam Hashmi Hain Our Qurshi Hain

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On 6/14/2016 at 8:12 AM, M Furqan Hashmi said:

Ok Boss Lekin mujhe ebat jani hai hashmi qurshi kon hai phir ye bata dooo plz

hum bhi hashmi qurshi hai lekin humara shajra to hazrat imam hussain se milta hia to hum syed nhi hai kia

..

our hai sare imam hazrat ali ki ulad main se hain hazrat muhammad s.a our hazrat ali ko banu hashim kaha jata hai our un ke dada hazrat mutlib ko quraish

is lye hum hashmi qurshi kehlwate hain

jo syed hai wo hashmi qurshi hai jo ye nhi hai wo syed nhi hai

(1)alvi

(2)hassani or gilani

(3)hussaini

(4)abidi or zaidi

(5)jafferi

(6)baqri

(7)mosavi or kazmi

(8)rizvi

(9)naqvi

(10)taqvi

(11)askari

ye sab is lye syed hai ke ye hazrat ali ki ulad main se hain sab ka khandan hashmi hai our qabela  quraish hai ap log jis imam ki ulad main se ho un ka laqab lagate hoo

our hum humare imam jaha se haim wo ches nam ke age lagate hain

ager ap ko zeyada ilm nhi hai to kesi alem se pochoo ok....................... hashmi qurshi syed hote hain abbasi ka mujhe nhi pata.....

sirf hashmi lafz nhi hai hashmi qurshi pora lafz hai ok dear...our ha hum ahle bait ko mane wale hain

Bhai hashmi khandan Jdr b hn WO ziada janab e aqeel A.s ya jafar a.s Talib a.s ki aulad hn Fatmi syed ni hn aur fatmi syed yani Mola Ali badshaH ki aulad mn sy IMAM 12 hn is lye unka mqam bara ha hn sb hashmi khandan sy hi lkn Unka mqam bars ha Kyun k WO fatmi hn baqi Pakistan mn Jo b hashmi hn WO ziada janab e aqeel ki auLad hn Aur hashmi khandan sb syed hn 

Aur janab e aqeel Mola Ali Badshah k Bhai hn

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To answer the question of the OP, according to Ayatullah Syed Khamenei, descendants from Imam Ali's other sons (Abbas, Aqil, etc.) are considered 'Alawi Syeds. Anyone from the Bani Hashim is considered a Hashimi Syed.

Ruling from his website and istifa'a:

Q 1005: Are the rules of sayyids applicable to descendants of ‘Abbās, the son of Ali ibn Abī Tālīb (a.), e.g. can the students of Islamic studies who have that family tree wear the religious garment which shows that they are sayyids? Do the children of ‘Aqīl ibn Abī Tālīb (a.) fall into this category as well?
A: The descendants — through paternal lineage — of ‘Abbās, the son of Ali bin Abī Tālīb are regarded as ‘alawī sayyids [a sayyid from the descendants of Imam Ali (a.)]. All sayyids, whether descendants of Imam Ali or that of ‘Aqīl [Imam Ali’s brother], are considered as hāshimī sayyids. They enjoy the rights specific for hāshimī sayyids.

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On 12/30/2016 at 1:40 AM, Shaykh Patience101 said:

 

To answer the question of the OP, according to Ayatullah Syed Khamenei, descendants from Imam Ali's other sons (Abbas, Aqil, etc.) are considered 'Alawi Syeds. Anyone from the Bani Hashim is considered a Hashimi Syed.

Ruling from his website and istifa'a:

Q 1005: Are the rules of sayyids applicable to descendants of ‘Abbās, the son of Ali ibn Abī Tālīb (a.), e.g. can the students of Islamic studies who have that family tree wear the religious garment which shows that they are sayyids? Do the children of ‘Aqīl ibn Abī Tālīb (a.) fall into this category as well?
A: The descendants — through paternal lineage — of ‘Abbās, the son of Ali bin Abī Tālīb are regarded as ‘alawī sayyids [a sayyid from the descendants of Imam Ali (a.)]. All sayyids, whether descendants of Imam Ali or that of ‘Aqīl [Imam Ali’s brother], are considered as hāshimī sayyids. They enjoy the rights specific for hāshimī sayyids.

Syed.PNG

 

Only the descendants of Mola Ali karam Allah wajoh and Hazrat Fatima radiAllah o anha are Syeds and Ahlul Bait and they also have hashmi surnames at times.

The Desendants of Hazrat Abbas (prophet salal laho alihi wasalm’s uncle), Hazrat Jafar and Hazrat Aqeel (both are brothers of Mola Ali) radiAllah o anhum ajmaeen are all Ahlul bait but not Syeds.

Similarly the descendants of Mola Ali radiAllah anho from other wives are also Ahlul bait but not Syeds.

To be a Syed your lineage should go up to Mola Ali either through Hazrat Hassan or Hazrat Hussain radiAllah anhum ajmaeen.

Jazak Allah Khair

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Salam...kya mujhe koi bata sakta hai ke jiska surname shaikh hota hai kya wo syed hote hai ?agar hote hai to kaun se Imam se ? Plz bataiye

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