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What system is best for iran. - Islam, reform, western  or monarc

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western democracy

most of the ppl who voted for the system iran has, are living in western democracies themselves.  If their type of govt wasnt good enough for your family than why should it be good enough for the people who live their.

anyways in the end the people will pick the style they want and the way things are going,  its not going to be the current structure.

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most of the ppl who voted for the system iran has, are living in western democracies themselves.  If their type of govt wasnt good enough for your family than why should it be good enough for the people who live their.

indianpride you don't understand, it's not just the reason of the government that people are living in other countries.  There's economical, education, and other reasons.  Other countries such as Israel and USA are working hard to lower the living conditions in Iran, lower the economy, basically destroy it and make it become poverished.  Exact same thing that happened in Iraq, and is still happening.  

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Salaam alaikum,

Imam Khomeini(ra) said that it would take three generations for the Islamic Republic to become a true Islamic republic.  More recently, Imam Khamene'i has spoken out about corruption in the government.  Others have as well.  So I think reform is ongoing and there is room for improvement.  Therefore I voted for the second option.

WaSalaam, Hajar

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Salam Alaykom,

I would totally agree with Hajar.  

Reform/improvement is continous, we can never reach the 'perfect' Islamic government unless we have an Imam, and therefore Imam Mahdi (as) for our time.

Inshallah the Islamic Republic in Iran improves and shows the world the true nature of an Islamic system.  

Indianpride: i think external forces have a major role in what you are talking about.....such as the oppressive  Zionist entity, 'israel' and the disguised so-called democracy of the USA who is nothing but a leader of hypocracy, who only try to lower the status of muslims and the Islamic ummah e.g. Iraq (they are the one who put Saddam in power)

Wassalm

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I also voted for reform/Islamic govt. I really admire those Iranians who have stayed in Iran despite the economic hardships. Those who left most likely did so due to economic reasons rather than political ones. Democracy, (or the western version of it) paired with capitalism and colonialism are anti-Islamic. America would love to do to Iran and Iraq what it's done to Turkey. No thanks!

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Dear Brothers and Sisters,

Salaamun Alaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakaatohu.

I opted for the first choice. I do not know much about Iranian politics, I do however feel that the Country should be run by the Clerics ie. THEOCRACY so that the ideology and thinking of the late Ayatullah Khomeini r.a. continues in the form of his revolution that he had given us, but there is always scope for improvement but it depends which way it will go.

Allah HAFIZ.

Your Shia Brother in Islam,

Shahid Abbas Bokhari.

The Lover of the AHLUL BAYT A.S.

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Salam Alaykum,

Does anyone think that people in Iran are living in "hardship" because of the Economic sanctions?

Well, when I was in Iran, it seemed *most* people are living pleasantly, and enjoying many pleasant bounties.

But I guess it's just the people, they just want to complain, they are living pleasantly while you see them complaining not having money and economy is down.

In summer my father visited a friend of his in Shiraz, Iran. The man had a beautiful home, and he was even having it constructed and said he's spending almost 7 million Toman(that's a lot of money in Iran)

And he was asking his friend how is he doing with his living there, and the man was complaining that we're living in hardship and oh economy is down, no money, gov't doesnt help us to get better jobs.

and my father is like "oh how come u r living in hardship and say u have not enough money when you have this much money to construct your home??"..

so my point is the problem are the people, Iran is doing great... :)

Wsalam

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Salam Karbala,

You don't know what you're talking about.  Just because you went there for a visit and saw some people living to what you call "pleasantly" doesn't mean that's how it is for everybody.  Neither does it mean that is how it is for those people who appear to be living "pleasantly".

You are terribly wrong, a lot of people are living a hard life.  It is very hard to make a living down there, a lot of people are struggling.  

Shoorideh nabash,

salamat agha

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Salam,

It will fall down in a few years if huge reform in all aspects is not carried out, and the way it is going now, it doesn't look like 'some' people are going to allow it.

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Alhamdulillah, nastighfirahu wa nasta`eenahu wa nastadee bihi wa natawakallu `alayh

Wa naudhu billahi min shurruri anfusina wa min sayyi’ati `amaalina

Man yahdillah, fahua al-muhtadi, wa man yudlill falan tajida lahu waleeyin murshidan.

Wa ashadu ann laa ilaha ill-Allah wahdahu laa shareek lah, wa laa matheela lahu fee `uluwi sha’nihi wa `adheemi sultanih wa ashadu anna Muhammadan `abduhu wa habeebahu wa rasuluh

One Important fundemental Piller in Islam is thet We Must followe the Divine Laws of Shari'a Allah have sent down To us, It is  a Gigantic Sin which is KUFR If You do Not rule By the Words of Allah!

Allah the Allmighty says:

"And whoever does not judge by what Allah sent down, then they are Kaafirun (unbelievers)."Surat ulMa'ida, ayah 44,

We Can see from That Ayah from the Quran that ruling according to Allahs words are absolute and A Human cann not reform them or change them, The Holy Quran is perfecrt and Does Not need to change by Time,  The ones Who say that The Quran is Old and Need to reform It and need to reform the Islamic Sharii'a is Bound to the FLAMES OF HELL!

The People of Iran decied in 1979 in a Massive cry for Islam that Iran should be estabslihed as an Islamic republic, Theire are some evil Youth and Old-communists  still in Iran wich are preaching Kufr and Ignorance,

The Supreme Leader of Ayatollah Khameni must Fight  them so they perish from This earth,

Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khameni Said in His July Khutbeh:

" Theire are some evil forces in the country who want to destroy the Islamic republic by the within"

I agree fully with Ayatollah Khameni,  IRAN SHOULD NOT REFORM A BIT! The Islamic way of is not reformable,

If Allah have said Stone the evil Women of Adultery IT BECOMES wajib on You to ston to death  her if a Islamic court findes her Guilty of Evil Adultery,

It is a Pity that  Some Youth of This Forum have Voted for Reformes, Knowe that words like  "Political Reformes"

"More Freedom" Is a veil for the Great SATAN of America

Ayatollah Ruhullah Khomeni  said in very Famous Speach:

"By God, The Evil American Satan is Corrupting the VALUES of our Youth, By God Victory is Our"

Death to Imperialism, Death to Evil America, Death to Communism, MAY God give victory to the Islamic governments of the World ,

I do Not want un-Islamic comments wich are denouncing my use of the Slogan "Death to America"

Note that I am denouncing the Evil  "POLITICAL

REFORMES", I Agree fully with that ECONOMIC reformes must be Done

Edited By Saleh Ali-Sufi on 1033900256

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In His Name, the Most High

Salaams

The fact that this poll has had answers aside from the Current Islamic Government is proof that munafeqeen are amongst us - people who have no understanding of the system of Wilayah and the system of the true Islam.

I see a few people have voted for a "Western Democracy", is proof that board has double agents and enemies of the true Islam on it.

Those who say "Reform but Islamic Government should continue" what do they mean?

What kind of reforms?  

The kind of reforms that allow western garbage to come into Islamic Iran.

Personally, I believe that the internet should be censored in Islamic Iran, and garbage such as the pornography and other useless and haram stuff be blocked at the server ends.

This rhetoric about "talks with America" that is comming out of certain elements of Khatemi's office should be quashed, and someone like Shaykh Rafsanjani(HA) should be brought back.

The Iranian people are khaineen, traitors, they don't know how good a system they have - those who want "western liberalism" and "western freedom" are those who have committed a cardinal sin, they have forgotten the blood of the martyrs, they have forgotten Imam Husayn(A), and they have embraced the Islam of America.

In the west, these vices within Islamic Iran are amplified and we know that it is a small minority within Iran that believe this, and a majority outside Iran, but quite frankly - may all those who oppose the system of Wilayat al-Faqih be cursed by Allah and be deprived of his blessing in this world and the next.

How can you be against a system which is strong against the enemy and merciful amongst the believers?  Which is a description afforded by the Holy Quran for the believers, and for those who are with the Prophet(S).

In this current day and age, especially with the "Axis of Evil" rhetoric comming out of Washington, and the fact that we KNOW that Islam - the true Islam of Muhammad(S) - is the only viable threat to the enemies of truth to the enemies of Allah.

Yet, I am seeing that those who profess believe in the Wilayah of Imam Ali(A) are going against the rightful Islamic Government and giving arguments of "reforms" - did the government of Imam Ali(A) need reforms?  Did the government of the Prophet(S) need reforms?  Did the government at the time of Imam al-Khumayni(A) need reforms? NO NO NO!

So why now?  Why in the time of Imam Ali al-Khamenei(HA) does Islamic Iran need reform?  Because Mr Khatemi opened the doors to western inflitration into Iran.

This is a dangerous trend and not something to be take lightly.

I rememeber a saying of Imam al-Khumayni(A), where he said: "The defence of the Islamic Republic is the most critical thing - even if only one believer remains it is his reponsibility to defend the Islamic Republic and prevent it from annialation"

Yet on this and many boards outside Islamic Iran, I see so-called believers constantly badmouthing Islamic Iran, falling for the rhetoric of failure dished out by Emperor Bush Junior and his cronies, and calling for "reforms" in Islamic Iran.

I suggest that people re-evaulate their own belief, and work out which side they stand on.

To quote Bush's words:

You are either with us (the Bush Administrations - the real terrorists), or you are with them (the believers, the followers of the Wilayah, the followers of the true Islam).

The divide is getting simpler and easier to see.

Think about it.

Islamic Iran, should go back to the situation it was prior to Khatemi's presidency, it should return to the plans that Shaykh Rafsanjani(HA) had for Islamic Iran, and the hell with any negotiations with the New Roman Empire, and with its lackey "Israel".

The enemies of the Wilayah - WILL BE DESTROYED - this is the promise of Allah - as the Wilayah is Hizbullah - and in Quran Allah has said clearly:

"Fa inna Hizballahi humul ghalibun"

(Verily the Party of Allah (Hizbullah) will be victorious)

And Allah does not break his promise.

Think about it.

Allahu Akbar (God is Greatest)

Khamenei Rahbar (Khamenei(HA) is the Leader)

Marg Bar Zidde Vilayat-e-Faqih (Death to those oppose Wilayat al-Faqih)

Marg Bar Munafeqeeno Saddam (Death to the Hypocrites and Saddam)

Durud Bar Razmandegaan-e-Islam (Saluations to the Soldiers of Islam (Baseej, Revolutionary Guard))

Salaam Bar Shaheedan (Saluations to the Martyrs)

Marg Bar Amrika (Death to America)

Marg Bar Israil (Death to "Israel")

With Salaams and Dua's

Shabbir

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Salam o Alekum,

The majority of those who participated in this poll (88%) want the Islamic System of Government to continue. Less then half of them want some kind of “Reform”. However, [b:post_uid0]it is not clear what REFORM means?[/b:post_uid0]

-According to some “Reform” is improvement, which is an ongoing, continues process as there is always scope for improvement.

-Others have said we need “huge reform in all aspects”. I think they are talking about major, dramatic improvements in the current system.

-Some others suggest reform in the Economic area only, keeping everything else the same.

-Some have said that reform is a “dangerous trend” which will lead to “opened doors to western infiltration into Iran”.

I think we need to discuss the issue of “Reform” so that it can get clear what Reform actually means and what needs to be done when people ask for it.

Khuda-Hafiz

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In His Name, the Most High

Salaams

Why not use the definition of reform as is expected by the New Roman Empire (United States of Arrogance), goto this link - it is a search on Google for "Iran+Reform"

http://www.google.com/search?....+reform

Look at the type of sites you get back.

Still want "reform"?

May Allah protect the Wali Amr and the System of Wilayah from the Ignorant munafeqeen who talk of "reform".

With Salaams and Dua's

Shabbir

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