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Didn't I put a warning above my post saying it's Music? Hmm hmm? Yes, I did.

I'm saying Muslims should start listening to Outlandish, heck I don't need music like this to tell me how strong a Muslimah is, I know already. It's for those that aren't Muslim, they are the one that *might* benefit from songs like this. But Allah knows best.

Wa Salaam,

Dhulfiqar

(salam)

I know you put this warning and I did not listen to the music thanks for the warning...But you need to tell non-muslims that Music is haram and tell them it is replaces by Anasheed and latmiyahs.....Not teach them music.

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Salam un Alaykum,

Music is Haram, and Haram is NEVER good. It might take us time to understand this, but we will figure it out sooner or later. Either the easy way, or the hard way...

Iltemas e dua

Khodahafiz

{By "Music," you know what I mean ~no need to debate the obvious "which music is haram"}

(salam)

I agree

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Salaam Alaikum,

Since we're on the topic, I really like the Islamic (you couldn't really call music) but they use Allah (swt)'s name kind of like Yusuf Islam, I heard it on the shiarightpath.com islamic presentation called watch me bleed:

It goes Allah Allah Allah La ilaha illala.....

Sorry that's a bad description, inshallah you'll understand what I'm talking about...

Masalama

(salam)

There are some nice songs (Nasheed or Latmiyah) which is halal....

Why don't you guys teach them in this way instead of MUSIC (Haram one)

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brother mujji.......all western kids ever do is listen to music and go to clubs and parties.......most american kids dont even have the slightest knowledge of anything. they dont talk or even know about religion or politics(some kids here dont even know where america is on the map).the best way to even let them know about islam is through music(as long as it gives a good message).trust me.. i dont think a bunch of american high school kids would ever listen to Nasheed or Latmiyahas.

and btw.....KEEP IT UP! :)

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Salaam,

I love Islamic songs and music,

when I was in the US there was a Molanna listening to this song in English called, "Covered all over". And it was about the beauty of Hijab and its power in this world. It was just a guy with a spanish guitar singing it. Does neone know the guy who sang the song?

I think Islamic Music is a powerful tool to re-capture the youth.

Wasalaam

(salam)

ISLAMIC HALAL MUSIC OR ANASHEED.

Ex. http://www.almujtaba.com/anasheed1.html

Or Bassem AlKarbalaei Anasheed which are very nice.....

THESE ARE HALA MUSIC OR ANASHEED NOT ANY KIND YOU LIKE...

Salaam Alaikum,

Can you give some sites brother Hassan? btw your link you posted isn't in English

Thanks bro, Jazak Allah

Masalama...

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brother mujji.......all western kids ever do is listen to music and go to clubs and parties.......most american kids dont even have the slightest knowledge of anything. they dont talk or even know about religion or politics(some kids here dont even know where america is on the map).the best way to even let them know about islam is through music(as long as it gives a good message).trust me.. i dont think a bunch of american high school kids would ever listen to Nasheed or Latmiyahas.

and btw.....KEEP IT UP! :)

(salam)

Well....If you guys are serious about sending he Islamic Message then start doing Latmiyahs And Anasheed with messages in it.....Do it in a halal way not HARAM....

You are teaching them what is not allowed in Islam and it is music if you are not teaching them you are encouraging them to listen...

Keep it up or Keep it down...These jokes won't affect....

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Salaam,

I love Islamic songs and music,

when I was in the US there was a Molanna listening to this song in English called, "Covered all over". And it was about the beauty of Hijab and its power in this world. It was just a guy with a spanish guitar singing it. Does neone know the guy who sang the song?

I think Islamic Music is a powerful tool to re-capture the youth.

Wasalaam

(salam)

ISLAMIC HALAL MUSIC OR ANASHEED.

Ex. http://www.almujtaba.com/anasheed1.html

Or Bassem AlKarbalaei Anasheed which are very nice.....

THESE ARE HALA MUSIC OR ANASHEED NOT ANY KIND YOU LIKE...

Salaam Alaikum,

Can you give some sites brother Hassan? btw your link you posted isn't in English

Thanks bro, Jazak Allah

Masalama...

(salam)

I wonder if there are any in English

But here is an example of a Nasheed (For happiness)

www.al-shia.com/media/voice/tavashih/11.ram

And Here is one for saddness

http://www.azadari.com/ram/eng/eng03_04.ram (In English)

This is halal and good for sending message to youth instead of using haram ways which you will get haram from it.

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Asalaamu Aalaikom

Now this confuses me. These are lyrics to their song

Read the bold

Intro]

Ain't gonna be the one who's lost

One who's gone

One who's wrong, no

Don't wanna be the falling one

Crawling one

Drowning one, no

What a beautiful day today

And I can't get a lil' smile from ya

Should've known about everything

I guess, I wasn't made up for what u wanted to

Still the meaning ain't clear

Somebody keeps crying in the morning

And it never dries

I gotta find a way out of the moaning

And I hope I'll get it done in due time

Sure, life is hard

Sure, time is now

Just keep on believing

And u gon' be winnin' 'em all

In due time...

Sista

Brotha

The Lord gon'

Be there

[Chorus]

It's all gon' be alright

You ain't got's to cry

Day in & day out

Eyes never dry

It's all gon' be alright

You ain't got's to cry

Day in & day out

Eyes are never dry

[Rapverse1 (Waqas)]

In the name of the most beneficent the most high

He who holds my soul before and after I die

See I'm lost in confusion so please help me lord

I wanna act right but can't play my cards right

Don't let me go astray show me the right path

So I can be amongst the righteous and not those who catch your wrathAny fool can make a baby only a man can raise one

June 17th you granted me a son

I know the first look is forgiven but the second isn't

But I'm already at my 5th lord now I wish I'd listened

To the truth I know a part of it still in denial

If I knew what your loved one knew I would barely smile

[Chorus]

[Rapverse2 (Lenny)]

Perdon senor

Por todos mis pecados

Aqui estoy llorando

Ante mi cama arrodillado

Senor mio yo he pecado

Senor mio yo he herido

A un ser muy querido

A un ser al que yo amo

Y que siempre he respetado

Yo rezo a que la cuides

Que las penas tu le quites

Alumbrale sus pasos

Y los frios de sus anos

Suplico la bendigas

Dale paz a cada uno de sus dias

Besale el camino

Hacerla feliz yo no ha podido

Es lo unico que te pido

Te lo ruego

En el nombre del Padre

Del Hijo y el Espiritu Santo

Amen

[Translation]

Forgive me my Lord

For all my sins

Here I am crying

Kneeled before my bed

My Lord I've sinned

My Lord I've hurted

A dear one

Someone I love

And always have respected

I pray you to take care of her

And that her sorrow you'll take away

Illuminate her steps

And the cold of her years

I supplicate you to bless her

Give peace to every single one of her days

Kiss her way

Coz I couldn't make her happy

This is the only thing I pray to you for

I beg you

In the name of the Father

The Son and the Holy Spirit

Amen

[bridge]

Sista

Brotha

The Lord gon'

Be there

[Chorus]

[Rapverse3 (Isam)]

Dry ya tears sis I can't stand seeing ya cry

U got so much heart for a lil' girl

U worry like mom

6 years old and she already reads the fam like a book

How come u're so sad kid, don't u worry 'bout it too

So she rather sit next to me so I can explain how it is

How it ain't true her brother is jobless because of his Diin

And it's b.s. when her sista claims her name was the reason for beef

And the fam is full of it when they tell her we gon' leave

Yeah I'm lying to her, but only to see that smile on her face

I'm her role model, whut??? I gots to give the kid faith!!!

I'm prayin that one day she'd be on top of the world

As this pearl puts her veil on

And runs out to her girls...

Knowin'

[Chorus]

I think that one of them is christian obviously and the music is not about promoting islam rather than promoting unity or selling tapes. In the aisha video the lady at then end was not the lady that wore the hijjab in the video I think she was representation of the spanish culture. I seen their interveiw and they said they wanted to show their culture to the world.. Its all about culture and nothin else it seems.

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(bismillah) (salam)

HEY PEOPLE! HAHAHA I KNOW THESE GUYS! They live in Copenhagen near me. I know their younger brothers and everything. One is Paki, One is from marocco and the last guy is from honduras.

Lenny (spanish) is a Catholic. The paki and the Maroccon are the biggest MUNAFIQEENS.

This is copy from the Original AISHA made by Cheb Khaled.

They have made more songs which are successful but that has NOTHING to do with islami at all. Its pure Hip hop and RNB. DOwnload a song called:

GUANTANAMO. In that music video ull see muslim females dancing with guys without wearing hijab. but the point is: dont give these guys a hard time. They are people from the ghetto and have accomplished alot. I mean they make music as so many other people out there. If they are enjoying life then let them. We shouldnt judge others.

Certainly not me. Im from a sayyid family and used to be one of the biggest fashion models in Toronto and New york. Some of you might even have seen my commercials. But alhamdullillah im trying to quit and my marjaee told me that modelling is NOT haram as long as you have decent clothes on AND do editorial shots etc.

Outlandish are VERY VERY successful these days and even went on MTV.

I was born and raised here. There are SO many foreigners living here. The turks and the Pakistanis arrived in the late sixties and early seventies. My dad arrived from the UK in 1972. We have ALOT of pakistanis, Marroccons, Algerians, Palestinians (too many) haha, kurds, arabs in general, Iraqis, Albanians, Serbs, Persians(pork eaters though)....man its GHETTO up here! haha....like France etc.....

Ali

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Asalaamu Aalaikom

Now this confuses me. These are lyrics to their song

Read the bold

Intro]

Ain't gonna be the one who's lost

One who's gone

One who's wrong, no

Don't wanna be the falling one

Crawling one

Drowning one, no

What a beautiful day today

And I can't get a lil' smile from ya

Should've known about everything

I guess, I wasn't made up for what u wanted to

Still the meaning ain't clear

Somebody keeps crying in the morning

And it never dries

I gotta find a way out of the moaning

And I hope I'll get it done in due time

Sure, life is hard

Sure, time is now

Just keep on believing

And u gon' be winnin' 'em all

In due time...

Sista

Brotha

The Lord gon'

Be there

[Chorus]

It's all gon' be alright

You ain't got's to cry

Day in & day out

Eyes never dry

It's all gon' be alright

You ain't got's to cry

Day in & day out

Eyes are never dry

[Rapverse1 (Waqas)]

In the name of the most beneficent the most high

He who holds my soul before and after I die

See I'm lost in confusion so please help me lord

I wanna act right but can't play my cards right

Don't let me go astray show me the right path

So I can be amongst the righteous and not those who catch your wrathAny fool can make a baby only a man can raise one

June 17th you granted me a son

I know the first look is forgiven but the second isn't

But I'm already at my 5th lord now I wish I'd listened

To the truth I know a part of it still in denial

If I knew what your loved one knew I would barely smile

[Chorus]

[Rapverse2 (Lenny)]

Perdon senor

Por todos mis pecados

Aqui estoy llorando

Ante mi cama arrodillado

Senor mio yo he pecado

Senor mio yo he herido

A un ser muy querido

A un ser al que yo amo

Y que siempre he respetado

Yo rezo a que la cuides

Que las penas tu le quites

Alumbrale sus pasos

Y los frios de sus anos

Suplico la bendigas

Dale paz a cada uno de sus dias

Besale el camino

Hacerla feliz yo no ha podido

Es lo unico que te pido

Te lo ruego

En el nombre del Padre

Del Hijo y el Espiritu Santo

Amen

[Translation]

Forgive me my Lord

For all my sins

Here I am crying

Kneeled before my bed

My Lord I've sinned

My Lord I've hurted

A dear one

Someone I love

And always have respected

I pray you to take care of her

And that her sorrow you'll take away

Illuminate her steps

And the cold of her years

I supplicate you to bless her

Give peace to every single one of her days

Kiss her way

Coz I couldn't make her happy

This is the only thing I pray to you for

I beg you

In the name of the Father

The Son and the Holy Spirit

Amen

[bridge]

Sista

Brotha

The Lord gon'

Be there

[Chorus]

[Rapverse3 (Isam)]

Dry ya tears sis I can't stand seeing ya cry

U got so much heart for a lil' girl

U worry like mom

6 years old and she already reads the fam like a book

How come u're so sad kid, don't u worry 'bout it too

So she rather sit next to me so I can explain how it is

How it ain't true her brother is jobless because of his Diin

And it's b.s. when her sista claims her name was the reason for beef

And the fam is full of it when they tell her we gon' leave

Yeah I'm lying to her, but only to see that smile on her face

I'm her role model, whut??? I gots to give the kid faith!!!

I'm prayin that one day she'd be on top of the world

As this pearl puts her veil on

And runs out to her girls...

Knowin'

[Chorus]

I think that one of them is christian obviously and the music is not about promoting islam rather than promoting unity or selling tapes. In the aisha video the lady at then end was not the lady that wore the hijjab in the video I think she was representation of the spanish culture. I seen their interveiw and they said they wanted to show their culture to the world.. Its all about culture and nothin else it seems.

(salam)

I thought people said it was ISLAMIC not CHRISTIAN....That's what I did not notice.....Thanks sister.

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(bismillah)  (salam)

HEY PEOPLE! HAHAHA I KNOW THESE GUYS! They live in Copenhagen near me. I know their younger brothers and everything. One is Paki, One is from marocco and the last guy is from honduras.

Lenny (spanish) is a Catholic. The paki and the Maroccon are the biggest MUNAFIQEENS.

This is copy from the Original AISHA made by Cheb Khaled.

They have made more songs which are successful but that has NOTHING to do with islami at all. Its pure Hip hop and RNB. DOwnload a song called:

GUANTANAMO. In that music video ull see muslim females dancing with guys without wearing hijab. but the point is: dont give these guys a hard time. They are people from the ghetto and have accomplished alot. I mean they make music as so many other people out there. If they are enjoying life then let them. We shouldnt judge others.

Certainly not me. Im from a sayyid family and used to be one of the biggest fashion models in Toronto and New york. Some of you might even have seen my commercials. But alhamdullillah im trying to quit and my marjaee told me that modelling is NOT haram as long as you have decent clothes on AND do editorial shots etc.

Outlandish are VERY VERY successful these days and even went on MTV.

I was born and raised here. There are SO many foreigners living here. The turks and the Pakistanis arrived in the late sixties and early seventies. My dad arrived from the UK in 1972. We have ALOT of pakistanis, Marroccons, Algerians, Palestinians (too many) haha, kurds, arabs in general, Iraqis, Albanians, Serbs, Persians(pork eaters though)....man its GHETTO up here! haha....like France etc.....

Ali

LOOOOOOL........european "ghettos" :!!!: :!!!:

do our paki brothers go around in them cars doing drive-by's on rival gangs. :D

bro...on a previous thread you said you have friends in housing projects in america? or were you talking about denmark......i didnt know they had ghetto sub-cultures in denmark with hip hop and all.

BTW...i heard outlandish's other songs on kazaa(just to check :Hijabi: )...........they are very unislamic and alot of cursing.

if you guys want to hear 100% purely islamic songs....listen to yusuf islam(formerly cat stevens)...he doesnt even use instrument. MashAllah,i like his song "A is for Allah"

http://catstevens.com/

but anyways i dont listen to any songs..........not because they are haram but because im not interested ^_^ (MashAllah,Allah did not let me have an interest in songs and music)

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(bismillah) (salam)

bro AR: yes I know people in the projects in the US. I wouldnt say that they are my FREINDS but they are people I know. Here in Denmark there is alot of crime. Alot of fighting but not like in the US where they have their own territory etc etc. Drive bys never happen. but violense IS increasing though.

Ali

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http://www.outlandish.de/special.htm

he gives his reason for making aisha

BTW.....i didnt know they had ghetto sub-cultures in denmark :blink:

hey i just heard their song "belly dance"......VERY HARAM!what are these guys thinking!

salaams

LOOL AR, mad didnt you know everyone wants to pretend to be from the projects...its 'coooooool"

salaams

baheera-who now really is livin in the ghetto...LOL *new apt, long story...LOL* maybe i should go around saggin my montoo and put my hijab on backwards

LOL

P.S I CANT READ DANISH OR IS THAT DUTCH, WHATS IT MEAN???

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Salaamu Alaikom

Unfortunatly these guys are trying to make Islam into a fashion statement. This is also happening in Dearborn. I see brothers (if I could call em that) having a quran in their car and leaving the bar. I see sisters in convertables with hijjab blasting songs from missy elliot (A completly discusting rapper) There is one instance where 2 hijjabies were playing 2 short (For those who dont know them they are the most VULGER rappers ever) There is a song referring to a woman's mood that she should have only with her husband. they were yelling it outloud I was so ashamed. Anyhow many children want to be different many find difference in being Muslim and feel special because they are "unique". Its all about fashion and it kills me but if we remember many hadith talk about things like this.

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(bismillah) (salam)

Shiarose: OUTLANDISH MIGHT have islamic roots but they make music. they are NOT trying to spread islam at all. I know these people. The paki guy is married ang got a kid. The Maroccon is studying ARABIC in the university. This are MUSICIANS. They aint hardcore religious at all. Why do people call these people BAD muslims etc? Just cuz they make hip hop music?? Come one....in pakistan and the arab countrie MUSLIMS are making music aswell and FEMALE singers sing without hijab....Why judge other people??? Leave them alone. They are muslims and musicians. No one is perfect.

Ali

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They are muslims and musicians.

Haram Music (which is the trend in pakistan) makes that statement an oxymoron. One is either a Muslim or a (haraam) Musician.

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(salam)

Heres the article for those of you who may have not read it.

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Burqa Band: Afghan girls go places

Sunday, 03 August , 2003, 10:37

Berlin: It began in Kabul as a joke, but with the help of a few German musicians Afghanistan's all-girl rock group "Burqa Band" was formed in the space of a day and has hit the airwaves and clubs in Germany.

All that remains of the ephemeral alliance of the Burqa and rock is an amateur video clip and a song remixed by Berlin DJ Barbara Morgenstern which has become a modest summer-time favourite.

The female trio appears on screen as three blue ghosts in a makeshift studio in Kabul; bound by their robes they nevertheless let it all hang out on the drums, electric bass and microphone.

"You give me all your love, you give me all your kisses, and then you touch my burqa, and don't know who it is..." the lead singer moans in halting but determined English.

"Burqa, burqa bluuueee" they sing, in ironic lyrics that still manage to tell the tale of how Afghan women were oppressed by the former Taliban regime.

It's a surprising image in a city where cultural events were virtually outlawed and dance steps can be made out under the gyrating robes, moves that would have meant almost certain death a few years ago.

"There is almost nothing left of the traditional musical culture from before the Taliban. The instruments and infrastructure was all destroyed," said Kurt Dahlke, a music producer sent to run a workshop by Germany's Goethe Institute.

Dahlke, from the Ata Tak record company, and two colleagues arrived in Kabul last October with the aim of helping to re-awaken Afghanistan's musical sensibilities and spread some "traditional music" influence.

They played a mix of Persian, Russian and Indian sounds on local percussion instruments, a harmonium and the Afghan violin.

But they also wanted to spread some rock gospel so they brought records with them and gave some improvised concerts with modern instruments, and in the end they handed over the baton to the locals.

About 100 people attended their workshops, but not a single woman was amongst them. "One day, my colleague Saskia asked our Afghan translator if she wanted to play around on the drums," said Kurt, whose colleagues helped pen the lyrics.

"Two other women, who made the tea, got excited about the idea of playing in a group. But in fear of the reaction in society here, they don't want their names made known," he said.

Despite their precautions, making the video clip proved tedious. "We locked the room. The male students were knocking on the door all the time, they thought our meeting behind closed doors was suspicious. We had to open the door all the time to calm them down," said Kurt's colleague Frank.

They had to abandon an original plan to film the women dancing in a local bazaar, because Afghanistan's taboos remained too strong.

"We haven't show the video in Afghanistan, people there aren't quite ready for it yet," Kurt said.

Recorded western music is tolerated but concerts are unheard of. While Kurt and his colleagues were in Afghanistan, fundamentalist gunmen burst in on a party and fired on the band, killing two musicians.

The Burqa Band has since returned to their families and they are unsure about whether they should ever play again, let alone unmasked.

"Burqa bluuueee... my mother wears blue jeans now, things are changing faster, I don't know if it's good."

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Selam alaycom,

Mashalla, good advice Hassan.  :)  The means doesn't justify the extreme.

Peace,

Um Ali

(salam)

What does the last sentence mean?

Thanks.

i'll use an example, Bush shouldnt go killing thousands of innocents in order to find someone.

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(bismillah) (salam)

Its hard to believe in this BURQA band thing....naudhubillah.....

Ali

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Its hard to believe in this BURQA band thing

(salam)

Sometimes in the name of being free and throwing off opression, people go too far!!

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one of the sisters mentioned that this song is about the man's daughter... the original might have been, but read the lyrics, they changed the view.

Salaam alaikum,

That's what I think. The original meaning of the song may have been one thing, but the video changes the meaning.

WaSalaam, Hajar

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