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Kutchis, who speak Kutchi a language similar to Sindhi, also are from Gujrat, but the Kutch side of Gujrat; the Kathyawaris are from Kathyawar and they speak Gujrati.

Swahili is spoken by people who migrated to different parts of Africa.

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Historical Development of the "Khoja" Community:

In order to trace the origins of the Khoja community it is necessary to travel to India in which Hinduism is the predominant religion of its citizens. There are several different sects within Hinduism and its followers belong to a particular caste. The origins of the Khoja community lie in Shakti Marg Hinduism and are believed to have been from the kshatriya caste. Collectively, the Khojas formed the "Lohana community". However, in the early fourteenth century this community underwent a significant transformation when a Persian missionary converted the members to Islam and gave them the name "khwaja". Professor Sachedina explains how this took place. It is certain that the name khoja is the phonetic corruption of the Persian word Khwaja (meaning "master, teacher, respected, well-to-do person") that was given by the Persian Isma'ili missionary Pir Sadruddin to his Hindu converts to Islam in the fourteenth century. (Sachedina, 1988, p.3)

Henceforth, this group of individuals would be known as the "khoja" community and would abandon their former beliefs in Hinduism and replace them with the beliefs of Islam. The "Khoja were a group of Indian Muslims who came mainly from Cutch, Kathiawar, and Gujerat". (Rizvi, p. 93) However, the "khoja" experienced a great deal of turmoil within the community and this eventually resulted in its separation into three distinct sub-groups. As noted earlier the Persian Isma'ili missionary Pir Sadruddin was the first to initiate the development of the group's separate identity. The Isma'ili influence would continue to play an important role in the future development of the khoja community. One of the three sub-groups that would eventually branch off from the original khoja community would be known as the Sunni Khojas. These individuals were opposed to some of the practices of the Agha Khan. (official leader of the Isma'ilis) For example, they opposed the requirement of a particular tax which was owed to the administrators of the jama'at khana. (prayer hall and meeting place for Isma'ilis) They were also opposed to the Agha Khan's "ultimate right over everything that was owned by the Khoja community". (Sachedina, 1988, p. 7) As a result, the Agha Khan, excommunicated the group in September of 1862. Those who continued to follow the Agha Khan were known as the Nizari Isma'ili Khojas who unlike the Sunni Khojas, were Shi'ites. These Khojas were the largest in number and would remain the dominant group. The third and final group, will be the focus of the subsequent portions of this paper. This group was known as the Ithna'asheri Khojas and were few in number. The Ithna'asheri khojas were also Shi'ites and their jama'at (community) was formed in 1905 also as a result of their opposition to the Isma'ili practices. (Rizvi, p. 95) However, this group continued to follow what they felt was authentic Shi'i Islam. It is interesting to note that the relationship between the Sunni and Shi'i Khojas was such that "many among the Sunni Khojas joined this group and even began to intermarry with them". (Sachedina, 1988, p. 8)"

Khoja is not a sect of Islam (Shia or Sunni), however is a name given to a group of people (mainly Lohana Hindu converts) from Gujarat who initially embraced a form of Islam, by a Shia Ismaili Dai/Pir (missionary) by the name of Sayyed/Pir Sadardin/Sadruddin.

The majority of Khojas are Shia Muslims, with exception of a few Sunnis. Among the Khoja Shias, the Ismaili Khojas are the predominant group, followed by the Ithnaasheri Khojas. In recent times, due to intermarriages and personal search, we find some Khojas who belong to other faiths. For example we have some Khojas who are now Christians, Hindus, etc.

The largest Khoja (Ismaili/Ithnaasheri/Sunni) Jamats/Jamaats (communities) are located in Pakistan, specifically in the City of Karachi and surrounding vicinity/areas. Khojas were never expelled from India, however some did move to Pakistan after partition. We can still find large Khoja communities living in different parts of India today. Many Khojas emigrated/moved to East Africa (Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda) between the early to mid 1800's onwards to the early 1900's. From my knowledge and observation, the majority of these Khojas (African Khojas) lessened/severed their links/ties with their counterparts in the Indian-subcontinent, and created their own sort of identity ("African Khoja"). Irrespective of which group (Ismaili/Ithnaasheri/Sunni) they belong to, African Khojas were/are looked upon as being modern, more educated, well organized, and good business people. Due to economic, socio, and political situations in East African in the early 1970's, many Khojas immigrated to Western countries such as Canada, USA. UK, Australia, France, Sweden, Portugal, etc. to name a few. History to some extent is repeating itself for the Khojas out in the West. These Khojas are becoming better/well educated, more affluent in society, and even more organized within their own respective Jamats/Jamaats.

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The Khwajahs or officially Khojas (Urdu) are a (mostly Muslim) community that are mainly concentrated in South Asia, but due to migrations over the centuries have spread to many parts of the globe. The word Khoja is a phonetic corruption of the word Khawaja, an Arabic/Persian title (Arabic: The people are sometimes referred to as Persian Lords because of this lordship.

Ohh so we're talking about Khawajahs. Yeah we have some of them in Pakistan too. Infact one of our family friends are khawajahs. See now it makes sense. I always wondered, how come I never knew or heard of 'khojas' before.

And all khawajahs are not shias. We have some sunni ones too on the Pakistani side :D

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Beautiful topic

Let us not all forget the greatest contribution that the Khoja community have introduced in our Mosques and islamic centres....................

are you thinking that I'm going to say Timetables and Plasma tv's??? No

Are you thinking I'm going to say more and more English lectures for the youth?? No

Are you thinking I'm going to say potatoe balls and buttaz tea as tabbaruk (as opposed to delicious biryani you'll get in pakistani mosques!!) ??? NO

COME ON YOU MUST KNOW THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT

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yes the CHIP AND PIN MACHINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You must be thinking ..."WELL WHY ON EARTH WOULD A MOSQUE NEED A CHIP & PIN MACHINE??"

well dumbo..it's because we the khoja community (no im not khoja im talking from a khoja perspective) love to charge people to recite a surah fatiha for their deceased relatives...and due to extensive market research we have come to know that disturbed and upset relatives of the deceased may not always carry loose change on their person, so to make LIFE easier...or should I say DEATH easier..we've brought in the chip and pin machine to ensure that your surah fatihas will reach your loved one AS soon as your pin number has been verified!!!! YES SIMPLY STATE THE NUMBER OF DAYS YOU WOULD LIKE THEIR NAME READ OUT ON THE MICROPHONE...AND WE'LL ONLY CHARGE YOU £5 PER EVENING.....IT'S GREAT.....THATS APPROXIAMATELY 1000 SURAH FATIHAS IN 5 DAYS.....NOW HOW ABOUT THAT!?????????

WE GUARANTEE NO OTHER KHOJA MOSQUE CAN BEAT OUR VERY SPECIAL PRICES.....AND THIS SUMMER WE HAVE A FANTASTIC OFFER....BUY ONE GET THE SECOND SURAH FATIHA FOR HALF PRICE..OR IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD THAT WE DO SURAH KAWTHER (THE SHORTEST SURAH IN THE QURAN) FOR ONLY 50P!!!!

NO NEED TO HURRY.....YOUR DECEASED ONES AINT GOIN NOWHERE!!!

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^Please contribute more to the topic then a simple "rofl" sis Mrs F.

Anyway, I haven't had the opportunity yet to taste the greatest Khoja dish mankind has set blind eye to. No, not kichro. .The kuku paka! The kuku paka, a chicken-coconut curry, is a Swahili dish from the coast of Eastern Africa. It is also sometimes called an Ismaili dish, and it shows up on some Indian menus -- which all makes sense when one considers that the Swahili civilization itself is a mixture of influences from Africa, Arabia, and India.

Full Recipe

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Whats an Aga Khan?

Agha Khan is basically the title of the imam for the Nizari Muslims (Ismalis)

Edited by Kaka Sahib

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well dumbo..it's because we the khoja community (no im not khoja im talking from a khoja perspective) love to charge people to recite a surah fatiha for their deceased relatives...and due to extensive market research we have come to know that disturbed and upset relatives of the deceased may not always carry loose change on their person, so to make LIFE easier...or should I say DEATH easier..we've brought in the chip and pin machine to ensure that your surah fatihas will reach your loved one AS soon as your pin number has been verified!!!! YES SIMPLY STATE THE NUMBER OF DAYS YOU WOULD LIKE THEIR NAME READ OUT ON THE MICROPHONE...AND WE'LL ONLY CHARGE YOU £5 PER EVENING.....IT'S GREAT.....THATS APPROXIAMATELY 1000 SURAH FATIHAS IN 5 DAYS.....NOW HOW ABOUT THAT!?????????

WE GUARANTEE NO OTHER KHOJA MOSQUE CAN BEAT OUR VERY SPECIAL PRICES.....AND THIS SUMMER WE HAVE A FANTASTIC OFFER....BUY ONE GET THE SECOND SURAH FATIHA FOR HALF PRICE..OR IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD THAT WE DO SURAH KAWTHER (THE SHORTEST SURAH IN THE QURAN) FOR ONLY 50P!!!!

NO NEED TO HURRY.....YOUR DECEASED ONES AINT GOIN NOWHERE!!!

LOL. :lol:

So true...

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Khojas : A Shiite sect that takes Aga Khan as their religious head. The Khojas are a Gujarati speaking community in India, mainly engaged in business.

Whats an Aga Khan?

Khojas do not take Agha Khan as their religious head.

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