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[shahed algami]

copul of chickens said:why don't we migrate to turkey & become turkeys?

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a man in a plane greeted his friend jack he said:hi jack! the stewardes paniced why? cuz the plane is been hi-jacked?

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why that bug is wearing hajab?

she is makeing a advert about insect sprys in saudi arabia!

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a snake was cursing:the damn no good husband of maine i loved him for 3 years & it turned out that he is just a hosepipe!

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what did the picture said to the clock?

i am framed! :lol:

[Guest Irfan Ali]

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Edited December 24, 2005 by Irfan Ali

[Orion]

http://www.saanei.org/

[Ali]

Salam Alaikum.

What does he mean by "ÊÃííÏ"? He doesnt mean Taqleed does he?

I mean, I can be a "supporter" of the path of Ayatollah Khomeini but doesnt mean I have to be a Muqalid.

What becomes of the other scholars? Does that statement invalidate them?

[Guest Pearlsinvinegar]

Salam,

Somone have the english..perhaps even farsi to that?

[shabbir.hassanally]

In His Name, the Most High

Salaams

What does he mean by "ÊÃííÏ"? He doesnt mean Taqleed does he?

I mean, I can be a "supporter" of the path of Ayatollah Khomeini but doesnt mean I have to be a Muqalid.

What becomes of the other scholars? Does that statement invalidate them?

I understand what you are saying, and your question is extremely valid. If you will permit this wretch, then I will try and explain what Ayatullah al-Udhma Sanaai(HA) is saying regarding the Leader of the Muslim Ummah, Imam al-Khamenei(HA).

However, I caution those who have issues with the Islamic Government, to please, for the sake of your own souls, please do not reply to my post with slanders and allegations, as this would serve no purpose but to divide, where you will see, once my explanation is complete, insha Allah, that the whole point of the statement of Ayatullah al-Udhma Sanaai(HA) is to create Unity in the ranks of the Muslims.

What Ayatullah al-Udhma Sanaai(HA), is saying is not entirely to do with the concept of Taqleed, it is to follow.

Let me explain the subtle difference if I may.

When one does Taqleed of a Marja' Taqleed, in their every day matters, it is regular matters, such as Taharah, Salaat, Sawm, Hajj, etc matters that do not come into the remit of one who is tasked with the Protection of the Entire Muslim Ummah.

In matters of Taqleed, regular Taqleed that is, a person can choose which ever Marja' they wish, based on the relevant criteria that are well know and do not need to be repeated here.

However, in matters involving a situation where the Ummah requires a unified stance, it is incumbant, for the Ummah to rally around a single call.

For example. The boycott of Zionism and the allies of Zionism, the Leader of the Muslim Ummah has announced that we are to boycott companies that work with the Zionist Entity, and the allies of the Zionists, this then becomes our responsibility, if we shirk that responsibility, since, maybe our regular Marja' Taqleed doesn't issue an edict of the same nature, then we are sinful, this is the system of Wilayat al-Faqih.

For example, if we feel that we cannot abide by the boycott where we live, then we can ask about the limited boycott that the people living in the Western World where the American Empire has domination and American/Zionist produce is unavoidable in some cases, what our responsibilities are to the Wali Amr, and he will tell you, he is obviously aware of the situation and will not do anything that will put the believers in jeopordy.

The fact that your regular Marja' Taqleed doesn't issue an edict as such, doesn't mean that your Marja' Taqleed is against the fatwa of the Wali Amr, it simply means that your Marja' hasn't issued a fatwa on the given subject, possibly due to restrictions on him, or maybe the political, social, cultural and certain aspects of economic arenas are not arena's that he wishes to comment on.

It is important to understand this.

To put it simply, and I know that my explanations are sometimes very long, and sometimes repetative, this is because I am always paranoid that someone will take what I am saying out of context and I am a small person, with little knowledge, and I don't want anyone to misunderstand me and become misguided as a result of me, for this reason, I try and be extra careful, reading and re-reading and re-re-reading my post for inaccuracies and mistakes.

Therefore, to sum up, according to Ayatullah al-Udhma Sanaai(HA) and also many other Marja' Taqleed, including Ayatullah al-Udhma Seestani(HA), and many others, it is clear and completely understandable, that in matters of importance where the Ummah should have a unified voice, social matters, political matters, cultural matters, etc, the edicts of the Wali Amr, the Leader of the Muslim Ummah, Imam Ayatullah al-Udhma Sayyed Ali al-Husayni al-Khamenei(HA) should be followed, whereas in matters that pertain to teh individual, the fatwa of your Marja' Taqleed should be followed.

In reality, this actually makes a lot of sense, since it then provides the Ummah with a very unified voice against all manner of situations, and this system has proven itself as reliable and workable in the absence of our beloved Imam al-Hujjah(May our souls be his ransom).

For example, one of the key reasons for the success of Hizbullah in Lebanon, is its adoption of this system and complete and utter allegience to the Wali Amr, the Leader of the Muslim Ummah, Imam Khamenei(HA), and prior to him, Imam Khumayni(A).

Even when there were issues with Amal and Hizbullah, and much blood was shed, Amal was attacking Hizbullah positions and other such terrible events in recent history, we can see that while the Islamic Leadership, told the Mujahedeen of Hizbullah not to attack and not to retaliate against Amal, Hizbullah took casualties and just went about its business, only fighting in absolute self-defence, and never mounting a direct operation against Amal positions.

However, when the Islamic Leadership came and told Hizbullah, that they could now take out Amal, that is exactly what happened. Indeed it must be said, that very little blood was shed when Hizbullah took out Amal (althought the western and Zionist sponsered press insist it was the opposite, but we expect nothing less from such enemies).

The information I have given you, has been given to me directly by mouth, from people who are inside Hizbullah, and people who were Amal, but have now alligned themselves with Hizbullah.

Some people naturally will disagree with this system, however, having spoken to many people, and being a revert myself, I can say that my entire Hujjah for the validity of Islam as a Spiritual path, a Political path, as a Social Reform Movement, as a Cultural Movement, as a movement in every facet a movement has, is the existance of the Islamic Revolution and the existance of the Wilayah System and the existance of Hizbullah.

It is the only system that actually makes sense in terms of Islam, interms of the Islam of Muhammad(S), teh true Islam revealed over 1400 years ago to Muhammad(S), and prior to that to the 124,000 Prophets, from Adam(A), right upto Muhammad(S).

At all times, we have had a single Leader, a single voice. Many times in Quran, we are told that:

(All) people are a single nation; so Allah raised prophets as bearers of good news and as warners, and He revealed with them the Book with truth, that it might judge between people in that in which they differed; and none but the very people who were given it differed about it after clear arguments had come to them, revolting among themselves; so Allah has guided by His will those who believe to the truth about which they differed and Allah guides whom He pleases to the right path.

(Quran, Surah al-Baqarah, Verse 213)

Be not like those who became divided and disagreed after clear arguments had come to them, and these it is that shall have a grievous chastisement.

(Quran, Surah Ali Imran, Verse 105)

Many other verses also exist, which tell us that we as Muslims are a Unified group.

It is therefore important for us to understand what this Unfied Group concept means. Two different meanings can be taken, for this, and many of the Mufasireen agree on this concept, that it could be interpreted as that in the face of the enemies of Allah, the Ummah, the Muslim Nation, provides a single unified stance.

Therefore, we have one voice, one stance, one unified angle - this is important to understand.

In Islam, everything returns back to Tawheed, everything returns back to Allah, on a superficial level we can see that we are created from the unification of two individuals, therefore it can be argued that without a form ot Unity, a form of Tawheed even, the process of creation is not possible - everything returns to Unity. When we die, when we are burried, we are alone in our graves, with only our amaal as our companions, again, we are returned to unity.

Among the more philosophical and irfani tafaseer of the verse:

Who, when a misfortune befalls them, say: Surely we are Allah's and to Him we shall surely return.

(Quran, Surah al-Baqarah, Verse 156)

explain that we start of as a Unified entity, united with Allah, at the level of the essence of Allah, we are then created, and throughout our creation, while we are physically separate from Allah, our perfections and our various attributes, are in sync with the various attributes of Allah (generally attributes of essence as previously explained by Shaykh SadrasStudent in another thread), our existance is dependent on Allah, on a Unity, and on our death we are returned to that Unified State of being With Allah.

Therefore, Unity, on every level plays a very important part in Islam, and the thinking of the believer must always move towards Tawheed.

In a more practical manner, it is important to understand that we as a single Ummah, as told to us in Quran, many times, even though Allah has told us that he has created us into different "Nations" and "Tribes", the criteria and the aim is piety, closeness to Allah.

O you men! surely We have created you of a male and a female, and made you tribes and families that you may know each other; surely the most honorable of you with Allah is the one among you most careful (of his duty); surely Allah is Knowing, Aware.

(Quran, Surah al-Hujraat, Verse 13)

It is important for us to understand this.

However, it is possible that a question may appear, why not have a different Wali Amr for each nation. The reason is very simple, and based on the definition of Wali al-Faqih as the person with the political, social, economic and cultural responsibility of the affairs of the Muslims, it is against the very nature of Logic, to have multiple Leaders, and enjoys no precedent in Islamic History, therefore it is not in any hadeeth, or Quran.

In fact the Quran, encourages us to avoid becoming divided, and encourages us to unity:

And hold fast by the covenant of Allah all together and be not disunited, and remember the favor of Allah on you when you were enemies, then He united your hearts so by His favor you became brethren; and you were on the brink of a pit of fire, then He saved you from it, thus does Allah make clear to you His communications that you may follow the right way.

(Quran, Surah Ali Imraan, Verse 103)

Therefore, since the very intention behind the creation of nation states, which is indeed a recent invention and innovation, created by the Powers of Colonialism and Imperialism, as a method to divide the people, and pit one group against another, not unlike the manner of Pharaoh:

Surely Firon exalted himself in the land and made its people into parties, weakening one party from among them; he slaughtered their sons and let their women live; surely he was one of the mischiefmakers.

(Quran, Surah al-Qasas, Verse 4)

(It is important that my respected brothers and sisters do not take the literal meaning of the verse alone, it is important for us to think about the Quran, and think about the message, and to relate the message to what is happening in society and the world at large today, and prepare for the future. Like Allah says:

This Book, there is no doubt in it, is a guide to those who guard (against evil).

Those who believe in the unseen and keep up prayer and spend out of what We have given them.

And who believe in that which has been revealed to you and that which was revealed before you and they are sure of the hereafter.

These are on a right course from their Lord and these it is that shall be successful.

(Quran, Surah al-Baqarah, Verse 2-5)

He has revealed to you the Book with truth, verifying that which is before it, and He revealed the Tavrat and the Injeel aforetime, a guidance for the people, and He sent the Furqan.

(Quran, Surah Ali Imran, Verse 3)

Surely We revealed the Taurat in which was guidance and light; with it the prophets who submitted themselves (to Allah) judged (matters) for those who were Jews, and the masters of Divine knowledge and the doctors, because they were required to guard (part) of the Book of Allah, and they were witnesses thereof; therefore fear not the people and fear Me, and do not take a small price for My communications; and whoever did not judge by what Allah revealed, those are they that are the unbelievers.

(Quran, Surah Ali Imran, Verse 44)

Everything that is required is within the Quran, the very Word of Allah, it just requires thought, reflection and sincerety and reliance on Allah, to understand. May Allah grant us this understanding. Amen.)

This is testimony that Quran is a guide for all time, the Quran, talks of many times where ProphetÚáíå ÇáÓáÇãs were sent to groups of people, in various parts of the World, and things like this.

It is important for us to not just look at these as stories, we also have the hadeeth of the Prophet(S):

The Ulema of My Ummah (other versions say of the Final Era), are better than some of the ProphetÚáíå ÇáÓáÇãs of Bani Israel (Children of Israel)

(Bihar, Wasail, al-Kafi)

Also we have the concept of the four nai'b (representatives) of Imam al-Hujjah(AJ) during his absence. All of these are signs, and examples for us.

We must understand that the governership of the Ummah has finally come back to the Family of the Prophet(S), that is the believers in the true Islam of Muhammad(S), remember, the Family of the Prophet(S), is not just a family by Blood, I ask you to reflect on in the context of this discussion, the famous hadeeth of the Prophet:

Salmaan (al-Farisi/The Persian), is from Us, the Ahl al-BaytÚáíå ÇáÓáÇã

(Mutawatir - many sources, Bihar, Kafi, Hayaat al-Qulub, et al)

Which links nicely into an understanding of the concept of Raja', which is another thread on this post, and where Br Ali, had asked me to comment.

(I will not dwell on Raja' it is a complex subject with much disagreement and varying opinions, and so I will just complete my point and then conclude, insha Allah)

One understanding of Raja' is that the rule, that is to say temporal rule, temporal government will return to the Ahl al-Bayt(A).

In a lecture in the Hawza, I remember one of my teachers mentioning this subject, and he said that it could be argued that the Islamic Revolution in 1979 was the first external border of the beginning of the Raja' which will culminate in the return of our beloved Imam al-Hujjah(May our souls be his ransom). How is this so?

Since the family of the Prophet(S), while being the close people in Bani Hashem on one level, can be argued as those who follow the line of the Prophet(S), on a more philosophical level, while Imam al-Hujjah(AJ) is in Ghaybah (occultation), the believers have united, and thrown out oppressive regimes, something the followers of the true Islam of Muhammad(S), have never done, followers of the same line as was tread by Salmaan al-Farisi(A), Abu Dhar al-Ghaffari(A), Ammar ibn Yasir(A) and others from amongst the true and sincere companions of the Prophet(S).

It can be argued that all true believers are the family of the Prophet(S), obviously not on the level of being Sadaat, but that is just one level, on the deeper level, all true believers are with the Ahl al-Bayt(A), and since the government has returned to the true believers, it has hence returned to the Family of the Prophet(S), albeit at a time when the Infallible Imam(May Allah hasten his re-appearance), is in occultation.

It is also interesting, though less relevant possible, that both the Wali Amrs have so far been Imam Ayatullah al-Udhma Sayyed Ruhullah al-Musawi al-Khumayni(A) and the current Wali Amr, Imam Ayatullah al-Udham Sayyed Ali al-Husayni al-Khamenei(HA).

It is admitted that the point while subtle, requires some deeper reflection, which is currently beyond the scope of this posting (which has already become far longer than originally anticipated).

Insha Allah this explains a few issues, although I am sure, that one reading the words scribed by this miserable, sinful and insignificant wretch my brothers and sisters, will possibly have many questions. I will do my utmost. with my extremely limited learning, to try and clear up any misconceptions, insha Allah.

May Allah give us all the strength to defeat our base animalistic selves, and move towards the sublime levels of contentment in the decrees of Allah. Amen, O Lord Sustainer of the Universes.

With Salaams and Dua's

Shabbir

Edited January 12, 2003 by shabbirh

[Ali]

Salam.

No actually that made alot of sense and I don't dissagree with it. I can see how this concepts becomes even more usefull and important when we have scholars being sensored or their life being threatened like in the case of Ayatollah Seestani in Iraq.

Thanks.

[shabbir.hassanally]

In His Name, the Most High

Salaams

No actually that made alot of sense and I don't dissagree with it. I can see how this concepts becomes even more usefull and important when we have scholars being sensored or their life being threatened like in the case of Ayatollah Seestani in Iraq.

Alhamdu lillah, Br Ali, I believe this is the first time that both of us have agreed on the concept of Wilayat al-Faqih - Subhan Allah. :)

With Salaams and Dua's

Shabbir

[Ali]

(salam)

I never dissagreed bro :D After all, all scholars agree on that issue, including mine, who am I to dissagree? It's the details that makes things a bit blurry, and the followers a bit dodgy.

[shabbir.hassanally]

In His Name, the Most High

Salaams

I never dissagreed bro  After all, all scholars agree on that issue, including mine, who am I to dissagree? It's the details that makes things a bit blurry, and the followers a bit dodgy.

I appreciate what you are saying, and I include myself in the ranks of those who maybe have been a little coarse, but it is only because I cannot abide slander.

But alhamdu lillah, I am really happy that we have agreed, and that finally this line is clear. Alhamdu lillah :D

:cry:

With Salaams and Dua's

Shabbir

[shabbir.hassanally]

In His Name, the Most High

Salaams

It's the details that makes things a bit blurry

Brother, do you have any details that you still feel blury? If so let us air them, in a civilized manner and clear up any misconceptions, maybe you can start a new thread or something.

However, we must be careful that people don't interject with slanderous remarks and stuff - you know what I mean?

Lets try and keep this dignified. Insha Allah.

With Salaams and Dua's

Shabbir

[Ali]

Salam.

I wouldn't air them. lol, not here, not now.

I'm still reading up on the stuff. I'll pm/email you if I need anything.

Wa salam.

[shabbir.hassanally]

In His Name, the Most High

Salaams

I'm still reading up on the stuff. I'll pm/email you if I need anything.

No problems brother :D

With Salaams and Dua's

Shabbir

[Guest Irfan Ali]

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Edited December 25, 2005 by Irfan Ali

[Ali]

Salam.

Hmm.. try to maybe clean the CPU fan?

[Ali]

No sure bro, I'm not too laptop-savvy but my PC was pretty loud until I cleaned my fans by cracking it open and cleaning them manually.

[Guest Irfan Ali]

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Edited December 25, 2005 by Irfan Ali

[GenuFlecTioN]

salam alykum,

i myslef dont know farsi, i dunno if farsi and persian is the same? but since i have watched every movie that iran produces, i have learnt alot of farsi words..........maybe you should get some movies........ there is one out there that is kind of new its called "Maryam Al Muqadass", you will never get tired of watching it. Also they have it in arabic with subtitiles, let me know if you want them.....

wasalam

[ya mahdi!]

(bismillah)

salam

i dont think that the film u named be a good film bcuz they talk like ancient people, u can find iranian friend on line or watch iranian films that r about these days not old time

[GenuFlecTioN]

Salam Alykum,

well you can try these sites and see if they have them:

http://www.islamicdebate.net/

http://www.islamic-library.net

http://www.islamicdigest.net/

http://www.e-jihad.net/

wasalam

[pasdar1]

Salam un Alaykum,

What are some good online sites to buy Irani movies?

Try here:

Islamic Prints

Its the store in the masjid somewhere in Washington D.C.

Try to watch the "good" movies, not the depressing ones about husband wife fighting and kid gets lost and what not...

Iltemas e dau

Khodahafiz

[Guest Irfan Ali]

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[Guest Teenage_youth]

(salam)

I think you should contact the persian Embassy in your area, they give away books to those to need them. Well i know the iranian community here called and asked for books and they sent all sorts of books , maybe they have a book that could teach you farsi.

[UmmIbrahim2007]

asalaamu alaikum

Im in the same boat, im workin on my farsi

well, there is a really good book which may help u, should u need heklp with spoken or basically refreshing ur grammer...such as, what da heck is a ezafe and whats "ra" and all that fun stuff

its published in Britian but can be gotten anywhere-its Teach Yourself Persian.

i highly recommend it, it was pub like 1 yr ago, if you need the author lemme know

Some radio programs, Other then islamic Rep of Iran broadcasting

http://www.irib.com (I think)

there is also Radio Farda, based here in the USA, BBC world radio and desutsch welle, those ones I listen to frequently...u can search online for the urls, just click on radio...and voila. but do note they arent Islamic stations

for movies, Iran makes alot ogf quality films, many of the bigger libraries should stock 1-2 also try smaller indep. video stores or ones near large Univ they may have a large selection..ya know, just after watching The REd Ballon i can whine in farsi like a 5yr old...realllllllyyyy good! LOOOOL

*baaaaabaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!*

There r also Farsi resources online i have the urls but i hafta locate the paper...if you really wnat em, pm me

yes Persian and Farsi r the sameeeee thing

another idea is, try to find some iranians/persians to speak too!

that reallly helps!

good luck wit ya arabeeeeyaaaa

salaams

khoda hafez!

baheera

[www.almujtaba.com]

(salam)

Ok... I don't really know about COOL things because I don't have interest in them. And Second I like islamic things better.

This does not matter... What does matter is That MUSIC is haram (Not Allowed) so don't listen to it Please.

Thanks

[IbneSyed]

great articles - great forums - everything abt shiaism according to quran and sunni hadith. a must see.

www.sdol.org

[pasdar1]

Salam un Alaykum,

A kitchen worker hits a water rat on the head to stun it before it is

killed for a meal in a restaurent in the southern Chinese city of

Guangzhou.(AFP/File/Peter Parks)

Iltemas e dau

khodahafiz

:angry: :cry: :no: :sick:

[salmany]

Sallam

Im not eating in china ever!!!

[Ali]

..and they wonder why they have so many damn diseases.

[www.almujtaba.com]

(salam)

YUCK

They eat rats?!

[hidrali]

YUCK

They eat rats?!

they eat anything that crawls

[Ya Mahdi Madad]

(salam)

You ppl are sick!

Why did you have to put the picture there for!!!

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww :sick: :sick: :sick:

LOL!

cya

[Guest ShiaCat]

(salam)

Oh man, thats so :sick: :squeez:

no thank you :no:

[www.almujtaba.com]

Salam Alaikum

:sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:

YYYYUUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKK

I heard they eat lizards, snakes, insects, etc. :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:

[www.almujtaba.com]

(salam)

OH YUCKKKKKKK.

That means they eat chairs (the ones that stand on 4 legs) :D :!!!:

Alhamdoulillah I am a Muslim.