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Treatment of taliban soliders - What do you think

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Asalam Alikum..

Just wanted an insight on what people think about the Afghan and Pakistani soldiers at the Guantanamo Bay in Cuba, and the Prisons in Afghanistan. Do they deserve to be treated the way they are being treated???We all have heard of the massacre that took place in Mizar-e-Sharif.. There are other reports of many more massacres that took place. SO what do you guys think..

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Asalam Alikum...

Well seems like most of teh people think that the taliban soldiers should be trated preperly, but what about the massacres??? Was that justified.. On one account, 5000 soldiers were massacared at Mazar-e-Sharif.... Were the Northen Allience and United States forces justified in doing that, or allowing that to happen???

Allah Hafiz..

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If the soldiers can be captured, then you have to take them prisoner.  If they keep fighting and won't surrender, then you have to fight them, even if you kill them all.  But when you can capture them, and murder them instead, that is wrong.

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On one account, 5000 soldiers were massacared at Mazar-e-Sharif.... Were the Northen Allience and United States forces justified in doing that, or allowing that to happen???

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Salaam

way2go, you need to stop relying on the Zionist-controlled American media for your news.  It's a proven, documented fact that American soldiers in Afghanistan massacred thousands of Taliban prisoners:

The Sunday Herald (Scotland)

16 June 2002; Pg. 11

Did the US massacre Taliban?

By Neil Mackay

An explosive documentary accuses Americans of atrocities in Afghanistan.

It has already been shown to the European parliament; now Home Affairs

Editor Neil Mackay reviews the evidence prior to its arrival in the US

==============

THE tape begins with a mound of earth and bones. By the end of the

20-minute reel it seems established, almost beyond doubt, that US soldiers

oversaw and took part in horrific crimes against humanity during the war

in Afghanistan - including the torture and murder of an estimated 3000

Taliban prisoners.

The film, by Scottish documentary maker Jamie Doran, has already been

shown to the German Parliament, the Bundestag, and the European Parliament

in Strasbourg. This week it will be viewed by members of Congress and

military top brass at the Pentagon in Washington. It won't be easy viewing

in the USA.

The war crimes are alleged to have taken place after the fall of

Mazar-i-Sharif in northern Afghanistan at the end of November last year.

The city, which was in the hands of the Taliban, was taken by General

Abdul Rashid Dostum, then fighting with the Northern Alliance. Dostum went

on to accept the surrender of some 8000 Taliban fighters in the nearby

town of Konduz. These Taliban fighters included al-Qaeda, Chechens, Uzbeks

and Pakistanis. After the surrender of Konduz, the Taliban prisoners were

then taken to a fort at Qaala Zeini, almost halfway between Mazar-i-Sharif

and Sheberghan Prison. This is where the story of the massacre begins.

From Qaalia Zeini the Taliban prisoners were loaded onto containers for

the last leg of their journey to Sheberghan Prison. Less than half would

complete the hot, dusty trek.

Amir Jhan was a local commander who negotiated the surrender. He says he

counted 8000 men leaving, but only 3015 arriving. "Among these 3015," he

says to camera, "are local Pashtun people from Konduz, Sheberghan, Balkh

and Mazar, and many of these aren't even the original people I handed

over."

An Afghan general, whose identity has been disguised, explained what

happened on the journey from Zeini to the prison. He tells Doran: "We

worked together, loading and unloading the containers. There were around

200, maybe up to 300 in each. In total, we took about 25 containers from

Zeini to Scheberghan."

The heat was unbearable and the Taliban prisoners began to cry out for air

and water. An anonymous Afghan soldier explains how the Northern Alliance

catered for their suffering prisoners. "I hit the containers with bullets

to make holes for ventilation," he said. "Some of them were killed inside

the containers and then we sent them on to Scheberghan."

The soldier is asked on film: "You specifically shot holes into

containers? Who gave you those orders?"

He replies: ''The commanders ordered me to hit the containers to make

holes for ventilation and because of that some of the prisoners were

killed."

The film crew also interviewed a local taxi driver who had stopped at that

time at a makeshift petrol station just outside Scheberghan. He tells

Doran: "At the time they were taking prisoners from Qaala Zeini to

Scheberghan. I went to fill my car with petrol. I smelled something

strange and asked the petrol attendant where the smell was coming from. He

said 'look behind you', and there were trucks with containers fixed on

them. I was surprised. I saw something very strange. Blood was leaking

from the containers - they were full of dead bodies."

When the trucks arrived at Scheberghan Prison they were greeted by

American forces who had established a command post there to interrogate

prisoners. Some 150 US soldiers and CIA officers were at the site. US

officers ordered the lorries to leave. One Afghan soldier says on film:

"All the containers were full of holes which were visible. In each

container about 150 to 160 had been killed. The Americans told the

Scheberghan people to get them outside the city to avoid them being filmed

from a satellite.

"Everything was under the control of the American commander. In each

container they put 200 or 300 bodies and took them to their destination

and buried them. That's all I know. They put them in the desert for the

dogs to eat them."

Two civilians who drove the trucks from Zeini to Scheberghan and then to

the desert of Dasht Leili were also interviewed by Doran. "We collected

the prisoners from Qaala Zeini and took them to Scheberghan prison," one

said. "Many of the prisoners had lost their lives on the journey and at

Scheberghan they off-loaded the prisoners who were still alive. But some

of the Taliban were injured and others were so weak they were unconscious.

We brought them to this place, which is called Dasht Leili, and they were

shot."

The other driver says: "I am a driver and they commandeered my truck from

Mazar city without paying any money. They took my truck and loaded a

container onto it and I carried prisoners from Qaala Zeini to Scheberghan

and, after that, to Dasht Leili, where they were shot by the soldiers. I

made four trips backwards and forwards with prisoners."

He goes on to say that the commanders of the soldiers doing the shooting

were two of General Dostum's highest ranking officers. One is named as

Kamal Khan.

Images of the burial site in the desert show human bones and clothing with

Pakistani labels. The first driver says: "We were carrying around 200 in

one container and 150 in another. Some of them looked healthy but when we

arrived here they were shot."

The second driver also comments on the health of those who were gunned

down. "Some of them were alive, some of them were injured and the rest

were unconscious," he says.

Doran then asks: "When you brought the prisoners here, were there any

American soldiers with you?"

The driver answers: "Yes, they were with us."

Doran: "Here, at Dasht Leili?"

Driver: "Yes, here."

Doran: "How many Americans were with you?"

Driver: "30 or 40."

If an estimated 3000 Taliban were buried in the desert, those who remained

behind in Scherberghan Prison were said to have fared little better.

Conditions were overcrowded, and there were diseases like tuberculosis,

but it was the Americans that the Taliban had to fear the most.

One Afghan general tells Doran how Taliban selected for interrogation by

American personnel were tortured and summarily executed in barbaric ways.

"I was a witness," he says. "They cut their legs, they cut their tongues,

they cut their hair and cut their beards. They were Arab prisoners.

"Sometimes they did it for pleasure; they took the prisoners outside and

beat them up and then returned them to the prison. But sometimes they were

never returned and they disappeared, the prisoner disappeared. I was

there."

Another soldier confirmed the general's story, adding that he would be

prepared to identify American soldiers if given the chance. "They broke

their necks and cut their tongues," he said. "The Americans had come to

the prison to choose whoever they wanted to send to America. Then they

came again after 10 or 15 days to choose some more to deliver to America.

Many prisoners were killed. Some of them cried. No-one listened to their

cries. No-one cared."

Another soldier adds: "I was a witness when an American soldier broke one

prisoner's neck and poured acid on others. The Americans did whatever they

wanted. We had no power to stop them."

General Dostum is on record saying that "If any of my commanders have

committed such acts, I will kill them myself."

One possible motive for the war crimes could be the killing of CIA agent

Mike Spann during an uprising by al-Qaeda at the nearby Qaali-i-Janghi

fortress shortly before these alleged attrocies.

Andrew McEntee, a former chairman of Amnesty International and a respected

human rights lawyer, believes war crimes were committed. He said the

confessions and filmed evidence of mass graves made it imperative that an

international investigation be launched immediately. He also said that a

team of forensic pathologists should be dispatched to investigate.

"(We must) identify who these people are, because their families have a

right to know," he said. "They have been disappeared involuntarily after

being murdered."

He added: "There is sufficient credible evidence of crimes committed by

Afghans, and Americans as well, where no functioning criminal justice

system could choose to ignore it."

Glaswegian Jamie Doran, who runs the production company Atlantic Celtic

Films, said: "Our six eye-witnesses gave their testimony without being

offered one cent. Their lives are at risk for making these statements.

"I showed a short version of the film to the Bundestag and the European

Parliament earlier in the week as I had received evidence that the graves

were being tampered with." Suspicions are now mounting that troops under

the control of Dostum are trying to remove the corpses and cover up

evidence of war crimes.

"International law is about the chain of command," said Doran. "That's why

Milosevic is on trial in the Hague. Two groups are implicated in these

crimes - troops commanded by Dostum and American soldiers and agents. This

film indicates that it was the Americans who were running the operation.

"What is needed right now is an international body drafted in to protect

the grave site and the launching of an international inquiry."

Andre Brie, a member of the German Party of Democratic Socialism in the

European Parliament, said, after viewing the film, that he wanted an

international commission set up to investigate the "disturbing" questions

raised in the film.

Doran is now finalising a full-length version of the film, to be called

Massacre At Mazar. It will be released in the near future.

The Boston-based Physicians for Human Rights (PHR) said Doran's film

provided the "missing link" to the organisation's ongoing investigations

into war crimes in the area. Its personnel, seconded to the United Nations

Assistance Mission for Afghanistan, has already carried out autopsies on

bodies found in Dashlt Leili. PHR doctors suggested the cause of death was

suffocation, implying the bodies were buried alive.

PHR is also calling for a full investigation. Its executive director,

Leonard Rubenstein said: "If these sites are not protected an accurate

accounting will not be possible."

The Pentagon has denied the charges made in the film. Major Brad Lowell,

of the US Central Command in Florida, which leads US forces in

Afghanistan, said allegations of war crimes had been investigated in March

and proved to be unfounded. He did, however, admit that "no formal

investigation or anything" had taken place. Lowell also said that there

was not enough evidence at the moment from the film "to start a formal

investigation".

The French Communist Party deputy leader in the European Parliament said

he was to ask the International Red Cross to carry out an immediate

investigation.

GRAPHIC: Top: footage of the film, Massacre At Mazar, which alleges

American involvement in the killing and torture of Taliban fighters during

the war in Afghanistan. Centre: Jamie Doran, the Scot who made the film.

Above: harrowing images of makeshift graves in the Mazar area, said to be

those of Taliban fighters Photographs: David Rose

Copyright 2002 Scottish Media Newspapers Limited

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Way2go:- Chill there dude.... First wake up, read the post carefully, then start ur propaganda... moreover, U need to get your facts straightened out..

Once again I say, we, muslims, are blamed for blind fanaticism, whereas, the majority of blind fanaticism I have seen in my life, has come from the so called "LIBERALISED" countries...

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First wake up, read the post carefully, then start ur propaganda... moreover, U need to get your facts straightened out..

Once again I say, we, muslims, are blamed for blind fanaticism, whereas, the majority of blind fanaticism I have seen in my life, has come from the so called "LIBERALISED" countries...

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By the way the Taliban prisoners are treated well. They do not get served food that is against their religion. They've all been given a Quran and allowed to have their daily prayer time.

If Americans were taken captive instead, do you really believe they'd be treated half as good? I doubt it, but which of you will ever admit it?

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well what about the way the prisoners were strung up like animals and made to bow in front of their captors - I doubt whether even animals would be strung up in that fashion - does anyone know about the trial process about these prisoners - I know the Taliban has been branded a terrorist organisation, but most of these people would not have any inkling about any terrorist activity most of them would simply have been pawns in the organisation and yet they have been branded as terrorists because they got caught up in the media frenzy surrounding the 9/11 incident

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well what about the way the prisoners were strung up like animals and made to bow in front of their captors - I doubt whether even animals would be strung up in that fashion - does anyone know about the trial process about these prisoners - I know the Taliban has been branded a terrorist organisation, but most of these people would not have any inkling about any terrorist activity most of them would simply have been pawns in the organisation and yet they have been branded as terrorists because they got caught up in the media frenzy surrounding the 9/11 incident

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Way2go: Where do u get ur facts from???? CNN... Well Bud, its about time U OPEN UP YOUR EYES and realise America is no angel... I never said Northern ALlience is good, but who brought the Northen Allience in forefront??? Wasen't it American who, to quench their own hirst of revenge, brought these savages out??? And as far as they being treated well, why don't you ask your government as to why are they not being treated according to International Ptotocol for POW's, oh let me guess, CAUSE THEY ARE ENEMY COMABATANTS... And as for Mazar Massacre, tell me, wasen't it the AMerican Bombers who were bombing the hell outta the compound??? Or was that Northern Allience as well....

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786-110

salamon alaikom

No one has a right to take revenge except HE (or HIS representatives) not even in their books (Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the lord) Romans 12:19.

God damn the Northern Alliance for supporting America and God damn all those who support tyrrany.

NB- Im no Talibaani, its just that even our ulama fought alongside the Satans lovechild Salah al din al ayubi al takreeti during the crusades. So all muslims should have stood with the Taliban even though they are worse than the Americans, but at least they say they are muslim. Afterall bush said this was a crusade.

وَالْعَاقِبَةُ لِلْمُتَّقِينَ

[28:83]and the good end is for those who guard (against evil)

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May your God grant your wishes to defeat the NA and Karzai's government and when that happens and the US finally give up as well  and pulls out of Afghanistan, the Taliban can return and resume their killing of the shias by the thousands! That would indeed be a great victory over the Satan right? Can you tell me how long after that you will start [Edited Out]ing at the Americans for abandoning the people of Afghanistan? :uhh:  What a twisted #%@*%^ mentality!:s

Kafer

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Way2go: Where do u get ur facts from???? CNN... Well Bud, its about time U OPEN UP YOUR EYES and realise America is no angel... I never said Northern ALlience is good, but who brought the Northen Allience in forefront??? Wasen't it American who, to quench their own hirst of revenge, brought these savages out??? And as far as they being treated well, why don't you ask your government as to why are they not being treated according to International Ptotocol for POW's, oh let me guess, CAUSE THEY ARE ENEMY COMABATANTS... And as for Mazar Massacre, tell me, wasen't it the AMerican Bombers who were bombing the hell outta the compound??? Or was that Northern Allience as well....

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Those taliban prisoners are not POW's because we never declared war. We are protecting our country and our people against further attacks from fanatical people like that (who appear to have their supporters among members of this board).

Well U thought that would hurt huh.. Nope, nuffin happened, but I am becoming more and more certain about ur ignorence.. Firstly, I am a Shia, we were never PRO TALIBAN, but at the same time, unlike you and your government, I am not "ANTI HUMAN".. When a see an unjust, I would raise my voice against it, so if you call me a Taliban lover, I don't care for I know what I am, DO U????

After bombing our embassies in Africa and killing all those innocent Africans we did nothing.

If China Justified in bombing US as US bombed their embassy in Yogoslavia??? I would see what your reaction would be if they do it... As far as killing innocent civilians, OH PEASE as if you care... What about the fact that US bombing killed double or triple the amount of innocent civilians which died on 9/11?? But then again, hell with them.. They are all Taliban and they attacked you "SOIL"..Right???

I am getting really angry. I was hoping for dialogue and understanding but the continual attacks, insults and put downs gets pretty old.

Well bud, reality sucks.. What else can I say.. I must tell you, I never did and never will ever support what ever happened on Sept 11, that was anything but Islamic.. Islam prohibits us from killing innocent, what ever Osama and his gang of looters did, was unjustifiable and TOTALLY WRONG, always was and always will be...

One last word.. From where I stand I see no difference, wut so ever, between Taliban and America... They committed a wrong act, you punished them, their childern, their women and everyone else for that, just in the name of defending your country... SO TWO WRONGS NEVER MAKE A RIGHT...

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Those taliban prisoners are not POW's because we never declared war. We are protecting our country and our people against further attacks from fanatical people like that (who appear to have their supporters among members of this board).

Well U thought that would hurt huh.. Nope, nuffin happened, but I am becoming more and more certain about ur ignorence.. Firstly, I am a Shia, we were never PRO TALIBAN, but at the same time, unlike you and your government, I am not "ANTI HUMAN".. When a see an unjust, I would raise my voice against it, so if you call me a Taliban lover, I don't care for I know what I am, DO U????

After bombing our embassies in Africa and killing all those innocent Africans we did nothing.

Is China Justified in bombing US as US bombed their embassy in Yogoslavia??? I would see what your reaction would be if they do it... As far as killing innocent civilians, OH PEASE as if you care... What about the fact that US bombing killed double or triple the amount of innocent civilians which died on 9/11?? But then again, hell with them.. They are all Taliban and they attacked you "SOIL"..Right???

I am getting really angry. I was hoping for dialogue and understanding but the continual attacks, insults and put downs gets pretty old.

Well bud, reality sucks.. What else can I say.. I must tell you, I never did and never will ever support what ever happened on Sept 11, that was anything but Islamic.. Islam prohibits us from killing innocent, what ever Osama and his gang of looters did, was unjustifiable and TOTALLY WRONG, always was and always will be... But at the same time, America, claimimg to be a "LIBERALISED" country, should not have followed the foootsteps of thoes barbarian Taliban.

One last word.. From where I stand I see no difference, wut so ever, between Taliban and America... They committed a wrong act, you punished them, their childern, their women and everyone else for that, just in the name of defending your country... SO TWO WRONGS NEVER MAKE A RIGHT...

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Syed: When a see an unjust, I would raise my voice against it, so if you call me a Taliban lover, I don't care for I know what I am, DO U????

Reply: Really? Where was your voice when our embassies were bombed? Where was your voice of protest at 9/11 or was there one? Handing out candies perhaps?

Syed: Islam prohibits us from killing innocent, what ever Osama and his gang of looters did, was unjustifiable and TOTALLY WRONG, always was and always will be...

reply: Tell that to all their supporters because they obviously haven't got the message yet. And while you're at it, tell that to the Islamic suicide bombers and their supporters. Get the message to those fanatics in the Philippines who are attacking Christians and see what you can do about getting the message to those who imposed Shariah Law in the Sudan who are now killing, maiming and putting into slavery the Christians because bud, that really sucks!

Syed: They committed a wrong act, you punished them, their childern, their women and everyone else for that, just in the name of defending your country... SO TWO WRONGS NEVER MAKE A RIGHT...

Reply: Of course two wrongs never make a right. But as long as it was Americans being killed, the voice of Islam was silent. So hypocritical.

You call me ignorant? Take a long, hard look in the mirror yourself, but take those blinders off first.

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Really? Where was your voice when our embassies were bombed? Where was your voice of protest at 9/11 or was there one? Handing out candies perhaps?

Well firstly, when your embassies were bombed, being a Pakistani, was in Pakistan a tough response.. and you know what, I didn't have to wait for long before the MISSLES were flying... Did U ever find out as to how many people died IN PAKISTAN.. I doubt it, all you would have heard is that a few of their, TALIBANS, training camps were destroyed, but no, A lot of Innocent Pakistani civilians died in it as well..

As for 9/11, I mentioned it previously, I NEVER DID SUPPORT THAT and NEVER WILL, so I am sorry that I have robbed you of the satisfaction that I was handing out candies... I am a Muslim, for me any innocent person, no matter what religion or ethnic background, is the same... A crime against them is,atleast for me, a crime against the whole humanity.. So do not associate me with what is happening in philliphines or Sudan.. But then again, you never opened up and realised that there could be GOOD muslims out there, F.Y.I there are, lots and lots of them.. ANd you people heard them condeming 9/11 or any similar incidence.. If you wanna turn your face away when they r condeming it, and come here and claim that they never did, well than i can not help you...

Of course two wrongs never make a right. But as long as it was Americans being killed, the voice of Islam was silent. So hypocritical.

Do I even need to answer this one, cause I have already answered it.. Most of the muslims from around the world did condem this henious act and still do. Once again: OPEN YOU EYES..

After saying all that. let me ask you something now, we muslims have condemed all the wrong acts that have been committed, but have you ever condemed any wrong act you country has performed??

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Really? Where was your voice when our embassies were bombed? Where was your voice of protest at 9/11 or was there one? Handing out candies perhaps?

Well firstly, when your embassies were bombed, being a Pakistani, was in Pakistan a tough response.. and you know what, I didn't have to wait for long before the MISSLES were flying... Did U ever find out as to how many people died IN PAKISTAN.. I doubt it, all you would have heard is that a few of their, TALIBANS, training camps were destroyed, but no, A lot of Innocent Pakistani civilians died in it as well..

As for 9/11, I mentioned it previously, I NEVER DID SUPPORT THAT and NEVER WILL, so I am sorry that I have robbed you of the satisfaction that I was handing out candies... I am a Muslim, for me any innocent person, no matter what religion or ethnic background, is the same... A crime against them is,atleast for me, a crime against the whole humanity.. So do not associate me with what is happening in philliphines or Sudan.. But then again, you never opened up and realised that there could be GOOD muslims out there, F.Y.I there are, lots and lots of them.. ANd you people heard them condeming 9/11 or any similar incidence.. If you wanna turn your face away when they r condeming it, and come here and claim that they never did, well than i can not help you...

Of course two wrongs never make a right. But as long as it was Americans being killed, the voice of Islam was silent. So hypocritical.

Do I even need to answer this one, cause I have already answered it.. Most of the muslims from around the world did condem this henious act and still do. Once again: OPEN YOU EYES..

After saying all that. let me ask you something now, we muslims have condemed all the wrong acts that have been committed, but have you ever condemed any wrong act you country has performed??

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i saw a poll in bbc tv

sept.31 2001

it stated that  61% of muslims say that they condemn

wtc thingy

32% undecided

07% support it

another poll  shows

that  54% of Pakistanis (muslims & christians)  mistrust usa , BBC TV news at 12:00 p.m Riyadh time Nov.13

coz i live there so i took the saudi time

another thing on Sept.11 only 5 jews died

out of the hundreds that work there (WTC)

strange is nt it

a mossad agent sent a message 2 his wife on Sept.9 saying that 2 expect something big 2 happen in 2 days

(RiyadhDaily) newspaper

the americans have not showed proof 2 the world about OBL attacking WTC

OBL is no fool 2 risk his life in that way and he scared of dying

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another thing on Sept.11 only 5 jews died

out of the hundreds that work there (WTC)

:wee: :wacko:  :wee:  :wacko:  :wee:  :wacko:

the americans have not showed proof 2 the world about OBL attacking WTC

Didn't you know? The WTC attack was just a conspiracy to enable the Americans to build a pipeline in Afghanistan! In fact my reliable sources are telling me that the whole thing (the collapse of the buildings and such) did not really happened.....it was just clip from a Hollywood movie!

The same sources have also told me that Americans laugh when Israelis soldiers are poking out the eyes of 5 year olds…………..

Kafer

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way2go: Well If I have insulted you, I appologise for that, but when ever I pointed out something, it was a personal attack, its was rather an attack on your biased attitude, but since, in your last post, you acknowledged that even America has mistakes, I guess my assumption was wrong and I applogise..

Now to tell you a fact, even I have lived in America, and I know how people are up there.. They are good hearted, but at the same time, majority is ignorant in a sense that they believe what ever their TV channels tell them... That obviouisly dosen't include everyone.. Now everyone knows that America suffered badly at the hands of a maniac, but just try to realise that there are other people in the world that are suffering at the hands of America too... My heart goes out to all the sufferers of 9/11, but at the same time, it goes out to the sufferers which are suffering due to the actions of OBL and the gang... and if ur's goes out to them as well, then we aren't that different...

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