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My question is clear and it is in relation to loyalty within marital relationships only.. I will elaborate furthermore in case it’s not understood.. If a man is allowed to marry more than one wife.. how then can he claim to be a loyal person? What can we understand from the Qur'an / Islam in general when it comes to loyalty / faithfulness? I hope my question is clear..
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The discussion is continued with the sunni friend who posted he following hadith: The discussion is continued here under in response to the above posts: The reply is given as under: You have reached back to the state of baseless and false assumptions’where you were before: These assumptions were proved already null void and baseless and accepted by your as well but being u turn nature you have again taken u turn. Nothing has been proved what I have asked the narration. So you dont believe in the words of the wives of the prophet SAWW. including Aisha., Umme Salama and Saffiya RA, and you falsely claim that they are included in the progeny Ahl Albayat ie Ahlul kissa covered under the verse 33;33? You have admitted that the wives were not covered under the cloak thus confirming by the Prophet action they are not covered in the verse of purification as per the saying, words and action of the prophet saww. except 5 purified members. . The action of the prophet saww by coming to the house of Imam Ali AS and Fatima SA and reciting the verse of purification for them and hadith mentioned earlier are concrete proofs making your assumptions null and void. The quoted hadith by you does mot exist in any of the 6 Siheen books (Sihah Sitta) . Also its text is contradictory to the hadith mentioned in Sahih Muslim and Sahih Tirmizi, so it is unreliable/ unacceptable. This is another a sold and concrete evidence of our view in the discussion conducted so far in the referred thread. Logical assessment of text is quite obvious as Umme Salama RA did not know that she was included in ahl lul bayat otherwise there was no need of asking her, it so it is confirmation she is excluded from Ahl albayat as referred in the verse of purification last part of 33:33. The hadith posted by you, does not mention the covering of the Ahl alabayat including the prophet saww himself under the cloak which is clearly mentioned in the hadith in Sahih Muslim and Sahih Tirmizi.. Now as per own Principe and confirmation this hadith does not exist in sahih bukhari but exist in sahih Muslim and Tirmizi Alone. These narrations mention that 5 persons were duly covered with cloak by the prophet saww which you are denying by lying. . If you himself take contradictory hadith from your own books, then it is a proof of shattered principle and your false believes. Where is in the narration from sahiheen books that any wife of the prophet saw was covered under cloak (declared as Ahl albayt),? No doubt wives were part of residents of house in general meaning but kept out of cloak from the scope of verses of purification 33;33. The other hadith without any covering of ahl albayat and the text that “You are Inshalla” is nothing but very weak and considered as fabrication. Waslam
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You want four wives when you cannot even handle five prayers concentrate on yourself then think about Sunnah Marriage is beautiful relation to make. It is a fulltime job. Where you have to do a lot of compromise, sacrifice, respects, patience, bonding, understanding, friendship and most of all trust and faith. When we see a person, we may attract to her/him through his/her smile, looks, appearance, talks, status. It could be anything. Some go for friendship, some go for serious terms and some go for marriages as quote says, “A successful marriage built daily. Your children are watching your marriage. Be mindful to set a good example. To model them in their future marriage.” Muslims from London, UK can perform umrah with his wife. When we talk about marriages and relations. All country and its religion have its own perspective regarding to culture and inheritance. When we talk about western modern European. They have very simple theme about marriages. If you are not settling, down then just move on. There is no limitations in their religion about concern and relations. However, in Islam, you would find sincerity, loyalty and ever-bounding feeling. . God says about marriages,” "They (your wives) are a clothing (covering) for you and you too are a clothing (covering) for them." (Surah 2, Verse 187). In Islam you still have right to get married again with the permission of your wife or another reason, if you want a child. You are allowed to get married again with the clause that if you can do justice between them as Allah says,” "Marry of the women, who seem good to you, two or three or four; and if ye fear that ye cannot do justice (to so many) then one (only) or (the captives) that your right hands possess." This verse plainly allows a man to have up to four wives (Allah conveniently granted Muhammad an exception... on authority of Muhammad, of course). According to the Hadith, the "justice" spoken of merely refers to the dowry provided the bride, not the treatment accorded following the wedding”. Sunnah allows you to get married four times. More than four times is not permissible. As well as Allah says about prayers. They are obligatory to you. If you are keen or eager to get married repeatedly, firstly concentrate on your fard. Then think about Sunnah. As Quran says about marriages, “And of His signs is that He has created spouses for yourselves from your own selves so you might take comfort in them and He has created love and mercy among both of you. In this there is evidence (of the truth) for the people who (carefully) think." (Surah 30, Verse 21).feel yourself obliged and fortune to have lawful Muslim wife. Go at Allah’s home and make dua to live together in this or next world.
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Hi, I'm at a struggle with this one. Any insight would help immensely. So, I have read that she was one of the wives of our prophet who bore him a child, Ibrahim, who passed away in his infant years. So I suppose it's a reason why she was considered highly from amongst all his other wives at the time. A fellow mominah asked me regarding her interference between Hafsa bin Umar and our Prophet, for which Surah Tahrim speaks of where he vowed to stop himself from all contact with Maria Al-Qibtiyya to please Hafsa bin Umar? can someone pls shed some light on this? TLDR: prophet spent night with one wife on the day he was supposed to spend it with Hafsa bin Umar, did he act fairly/equally/justly? I'll be honest, I'm stuck Coz the mominah that asked me this doesn't seem to follow normal logic(well I hope mine is normal)
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Why Prophet was exempted from the dividing the time among wives ? Some opponents of Islam say that the Quran is not from God because there is some verses that talk about personal life of prophet that is not related to Islam and Muslims. تُرْجِي مَن تَشَاءُ مِنْهُنَّ وَتُؤْوِي إِلَيْكَ مَن تَشَاءُ ۖ وَمَنِ ابْتَغَيْتَ مِمَّنْ عَزَلْتَ فَلَا جُنَاحَ عَلَيْكَ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ أَدْنَىٰ أَن تَقَرَّ أَعْيُنُهُنَّ وَلَا يَحْزَنَّ وَيَرْضَيْنَ بِمَا آتَيْتَهُنَّ كُلُّهُنَّ ۚ وَاللَّـهُ يَعْلَمُ مَا فِي قُلُوبِكُمْ ۚ وَكَانَ اللَّـهُ عَلِيمًا حَلِيمًا (Al-Ahzab.51) "You may put off whichever of them you wish and consort with whichever of them you wish, and there is no sin upon you [in receiving again] any [of them] whom you may seek [to consort with] from among those you have set aside [earlier]. That makes it likelier that they will be comforted and not feel unhappy, and all of them will be pleased with what you give them. Allah knows what is in your hearts, and Allah is all-knowing, all-forbearing." Actually , the social life of the Prophet was so busy and nearly any month has been imposed a war on him.. In addition, the responsibility of education and training people and resolving conflicts of people and fighting against hypocrites and guiding Islamic nation was upon the prophet (SAWA) So if he wanted to take the time to divide among women could not do the great responsibilities , And the prophet's life should be relaxed to perform its responsibilities without concern with peace of mind. And this is mentioned in the Quran to Muslims know this decision is only for the Prophet not others.. Also if Quran did not exempt the Prophet and the Prophet could not divided time in difficult conditions the Prophet lost the people's trust and hypocritical accused the Prophet that he introduces himself as an example, while deal with it's wives in injustice way! Therefore because of prevent this misunderstanding this verse came in the Quran. In addition, we know that the Prophet, even in the final days of life were divided time between women fairly.
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I accidentally posted the same exact thing twice (whoops) so how do I delete it? Again I'm new to the site so I apologise.
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In The Name of God Surah Ahzab, verse 6 1- النَّبِيُّ أَوْلَى بِالْمُؤْمِنِينَ مِنْ أَنفُسِهِمْ 2- وَأَزْوَاجُهُ أُمَّهَاتُهُمْ 3- وَأُوْلُو الْأَرْحَامِ بَعْضُهُمْ أَوْلَى بِبَعْضٍ فِي كِتَابِ اللَّهِ مِنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ وَالْمُهَاجِرِينَ 4- إِلَّا أَن تَفْعَلُوا إِلَى أَوْلِيَائِكُم مَّعْرُوفًا كَانَ ذَلِكَ فِي الْكِتَابِ مَسْطُورًا What if we compare part 3 to part 1 !? Can part 3 be about relatives of Muhammad PBUH too.
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It is proven logically that this Sorah is about Aisha RA, not Maria RA. 1. Aisha RA was Rasoolullah SAW's wife. Maria RA was a slave girl. A slave girl can be purchased from her master while a wife remains wife unless death or divorce occurs. In the case of divorce, still Allah allows to reconciliate. 24: 6 And those who accuse their wives [of adultery]....... 2. Abu Bakr RA stopped helping his poor relative who took part in slander on Aisha RA. It is natural, a father may feel in the same way. But because he was a virteous person and Allah loves him to continue his virtues, He told him with kind, loving and respectful words to continue to support his poor relative. It can't be Muqawqis, who sent Maria Qibtia as a gift to Rasoolullah SAW when Rasoolullah SAW sent him a letter to accept Islam. He did not accept Islam and sent the messenger back to Madina with some gifts including Maria Qibtia. Muqawqis did not support Muslims financially, especially after the incident of Ifk. Because he did not have any blood relation with Maria RA. 24:22 And let not those of virtue (Ulul Fadhl) among you and wealth swear not to give [aid] to their relatives and the needy and the emigrants for the cause of Allah , and let them pardon and overlook. Would you not like that Allah should forgive you? And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful (Indeed this is due to slander, the next verse explains). 24:23 Indeed, those who [falsely] accuse chaste, unaware and believing women are cursed in this world and the Hereafter; and they will have a great punishment. 24:24 On a Day when their tongues, their hands and their feet will bear witness against them as to what they used to do. Ali RA reply and view of ifk Ali RA said, “O Messenger of God! Once, you were leading the prayer. You took off your shoes. We took off our shoes following you. When you finished the prayer, you asked us why we had taken off our shoes. We said we had taken them off to follow you. Thereupon, you said, ‘Gabriel ordered me to take them off because they were not clean.’ Is it possible that you were informed about the dirt that polluted your shoes and you were ordered to take them off but you would not be ordered to remove something that blemished your honor?” Halabi, Insanu’l-Uyun, Vol. 2, p. 624-625. Quranic verse, 24:26 Evil women are for evil men, and evil men are [subjected] to evil women. And good women are for good men, and good men are [an object] of good women. Those [good people] are declared innocent of what the slanderers say. For them is forgiveness and noble provision.
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I ask Sunni brothers: 1- Can your prayers be complete without Durood? IF yes then come up with full evidence۔ And if not, tell us since the blessings are just sent upon Muhammad saww and his progeny and not upon his companions or wives in prayers, When the prayers in this manner can be complete without sending blessings to companions or wives, why does Sunnis add the names of these groups to Durood on occasions other than prayers? 2- Mention a saheeh and authentic text hadith of the holy prophet saww with complete source wherein it is reported that it is obligatory to send Durood upon all the companions or wives of the holy prophet saww. And also tell if it is obligatory then how can your prayers be in order without them?
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(salam) I got this email from 'the ahlul bayt islamic mission', did something new happen?
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