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Salam guys and thank in advance for helping with this, It is my understanding that the Shia' believe the Prophet SAW had only one daughter (Fatima Az Zuhra)? I'd like to be able to reconcile this point to see what their rationale is. 1. If the Prophet SAW wasn't the father of Ruqayyah, Umm Kulthum, and Zaynab, then who was? 2. If Umm Kulthum, Ruqayyah, Zeinab, were called as Umm Kulthum bint Muhammad and Ruqayyah as bint Muhammad etc., why did not their names/references change like in the case of Zaid ibn Harith, who was formerly known as Zaid ibn Muhammad? As you know, upon revelation the Prophet SAW was instructed that children should retain the names of their biological parents, this would extend to the ladies. 3. What are the dates of marriage between Khadijah RA and our Prophet SAW (were they married 25 years before her death?), dates of birth for the potential daughters of the Prophet SAW, according to Shia' rendition of history? According to Sunni Sources, the marriage of Khadijah RA and the Prophet SAW was in 595 AD. The following are also Sunni Sources: Ruqayyah was born approx. 601 AD, died 624, after/during battle of Badr Umm Kulthum was born approx. 603 AD, did 630 AD Zeinab was born 599 AD, and presumed to also die in 630AD It seems Lady Fatima AZ may or may not have been born in 605, or 615, and died 632 AD. Also, Qasim bin Muhammad, if the shia' believe that he was a son of the Prophet SAW, his birth was 598 AD, and died in 600 or 601 AD. Take note his birth precedes all of his sisters (or half sisters) births and was the first child. Following this narration of history, it would stand to reason that the Prophet SAW did indeed have four daughters under Khadijah RA. Unless the Shia narration of history of these birthdates and deaths are substantially different from the Sunni sources, I'd very much like to learn these. 4. Is the rationale that Zeinab, Ruqayyah, Umm Kulthum aren't Ahlul Bait or daughters of Prophet Muhammad SAW because they were not included in the cloak in Hadith - Ahl al-Kisa? From what I understand, in both Sunni/Shia sources, the cloak includes the Prophet SAW, Imam 'Ali AS, Fatima AZ, Imam Hassan RA & Imam Hussein RA. However, when did that take place?, I think according to Shia' and Sunni sources, it took place in 9th to 10th year of Hirjah which equates to 631 AD... We know Imam Hussein RA was born 626 AD, therefore his birth took place after Ruqayyah already died (per Sunni sources), and therefore could not be included in the cloak by default if she was in fact the daughter of the Prophet SAW. In any event, if the event of the cloak took place in 631AD, Ruqayyah, Zeinab, and Umm Kulthum have already died in 630 AD (per Sunni sources) and therefore could not have been included in the cloak by default. This implies that one cannot argue if whether these 3 individuals were or were not the Prophet's daughters based on the Hadith of the Cloak alone (incident of Mubahala). I'm looking for references, and concise answers, please. @wmehar2

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