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  1. Alhamdulilah, All this because of another thread Converts, Reverts, extrovert, introverts, invert, lil Uzi vert, Gerald levert...convicts, ex convicts!! Assimilation programs, rehabilitations programs?? You people would make new Muslims feel like unfortunate untouchables straight from an animal shelter. Can it not just be new believers or new brothers and sisters of the faith? What is a born Muslim? Technically every soul is pure before being mutilated by its parents or society. There is this pride with “born” Muslims who are from Muslim countries or raised Muslims that serves as a way to make themselves feel better about themselves in a hierarchy way. The bottom line is I have seen a lot of so called born Muslims from Muslim countries who are almost no different from Kuffar. They are out in the dunya here in states doing whatever. I see the kids of Born Muslim parents doing worse things than kuffar kids. A lot of born Muslims in Muslim countries are doing Islamic rituals as cultural habits or cultural norm and not necessarily for the pleasure of Allah. Their hearts are not really about Islam. They would rather be in another country not living as a Muslim or they wish their country wasn’t as “Islamic” strict. I have been to Muslim countries such as Jordan, Saudi Arabia and lived in Malaysia and Singapore and I can tell you there are “born” Muslims there who don’t know Jack about Islam. A lot of the Arabs only know the language but not Islam. And a lot of the so called Born Shia only know Ali or Hussein and when to come to the masjid and put on a Tear show for Karbala. Both of my parents are Muslim but as an individual I had to embrace Islam and act upon the pillars of my faith no matter where I am in the world especially because it’s easy to be involved in everything haraam in the states because it’s the norm. Even if you are raised Muslim that individual has to find his or her way to the straight path of Allah. Giving new brothers and sisters these systematic identity terms that segregate them as believers is something that even the Christians don’t do here in the states. Some Christians May call themselves born again or reformed which is way better in my opinion. Assimilate the converts ?? Assimilate the reverts?? Sounds like terms for ex convicts getting freshly out of prison who have no money, education, or communication abilities. Awwww! Look at the poor convert/revert Muslim! Should we offer him a meal? Yes, give him Some dates! it’s sadiqah! Can you say SALAAAAM WA LAIKUM??? One thing you can do to make new brothers and sisters feel part of the faith is talk to them like people and befriend them like they are human. Talk to them about their struggles and your struggles. Learn their culture and teach them yours. The foreign Arab and Shia Muslims are socially inept here in the states. They are outta of touch so they isolate themselves in their exclusive cultural center “masjids” to feel better about themselves I guess. It’s really the Sunni tableeki Pakistani brothers and African American Muslims doing the ground work for Islam on the street level which really matters. They make new Muslims feel like Muslims without giving them segregated degrading titles. I saw on another thread someone say what what if their kids marry a a white foreign Muslim or even worse a black Muslim??? Whaaaaaat? The ummah 2019 everybody. Smh This is why when the Mahdi is here Islam is going to seem like a totally different religion. Just how prepared are you guys for the Mahdi? May Allah have mercy on the believing men and believing women.
  2. Does Mysticism(Irfan), deviant elements in Philosophy and Sufism have a place in Islam? Now one might ask and especially a Sunni would say what is the difference between the stuff being performed in this video and the Shia stuff done in Aushra? The answer is, they are completely different and are no were relevant to one another. The rituals performed in Ashura is generally grieving for Imam Hussien and reviving his message in order to please Allahسُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى. After all, as Allahسُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى mentioned in the Quran , crying and grieving to whom Allahسُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى adores is a type of worship and he set an example for that by showing how he was pleased with prophet Yaqoob(AS) when he used to weep and cry for Yusef(AS) for years until he eventually became blind. However, in regards regards to Suffism and specifically the types in this video, What they believe is basically that there are ways in which you can reach Allahسُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى other than through fasting, ziyarat, haj, praying and making dhikr but by other physical means or actions such as those performed in this video. Moreover, Allahسُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى did not set an example in the Quran that would reflect on these rituals they are performing as he did for Ashura nor any hadith said by the prophet or the infallibles would reflect on them as well. Does that not make these people specifically deviant? Now since I only have a general knowledge on Irfan and Sufism , I cannot immediately label them as deviant or declare takfeer on them. Moreover, I know for a fact that Sufism is broad and that there are other Sufis that reject these types of rituals and even declare takfeer on those that perform them. However, some of our major scholars have openly declared Sufism as a corrupt ideology and out of the fold of Islam. Scholars such as Ayatollah Sayed Sadiq al shirazi and those that reflect on his views. It is also worth mentioning and quote what our imams have said about Sufism in general. Here are a few hadiths below. “Our master Imam al-Askari (peace be upon him) has also been reported to have said to Abu Hashim al-Ja’fari: “O Abu Hashim! There will come a time where people’s faces are laughing and joyous [while] their hearts are dark and indeterminate. The Sunnah amongst them is innovation and the innovation is Sunnah. The believer amongst them is demeaned and the evil one venerated. Their rulers are oppressive and their scholars through the doors of darkness proceed.Their wealthy pillage the provision of their poor. Their young precede their old, and every ignorant to them is an authority, and every assignee to them is poor. They do not differentiate between the sincere and the doubtful, nor do they know the sheep from wolves. Their scholars are the most evil of God’s creation on the face of earth, because they incline towards Philosophy and Sufism. By Allah! They are of the enemies and people of distortion. They exaggerate in their love for our opponents and they misguide our Shi’a and Followers.” (Safinatul Bihar, By al-Muhadith al-Qummi, vol. 2, p. 58) "It has also been reported that Al-Hussain bin Abul Khattab said: “One day, I was with Abul Hassan al-Hadi (peace be upon him) in the mosque of the Prophet (peace be upon him and his pure family) when some of his companions, among whom was Abu Hashim al-Ja’fari, came to him. Abu Hashim was an eloquent man and had a high position near Imam al-Hadi (peace be upon him).While we were standing, a group of Sufis came into the mosque. They sat in a corner of the mosque and began saying ‘La Ilaha Illallah’ (i.e. there is no God but Allah). Imam al-Hadi (peace be upon him) turned towards his companions and said to them: ‘Do not pay attention to these deceivers for they are allies of the Devils and destroyers of the bases of religion." "It has been reported that our pure Infallibles (peace be upon them) condemned the one who adopts the philosophers and Sufi’s path. When Imam al-Sadiq (peace be upon him) was asked about Sufis, he answered: “they are our enemies, whoever is inclined towards them then he's one of them and will be resurrected with them. There will be people who claim they love us but they are inclined towards them and they try to be like them, call themselves with their name, and say what they say, whoever is inclined towards them he's not from us and we are innocent from him and whoever rejects them and refutes them he's like someone who performed Jihad against the disbelievers with the messenger of Allah (peace be upon him and his pure family)” (Safinatul Bihar, by al-Muhadith al-Qummi, vol. 2, p. 57)" By the way, the people seen in this video adhere themselves to Sunnism rather than Shiaism. It can be seen by the way they pray at the end of the video. That being all said, what are everyone's thoughts and opinions on this?
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