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  1. Selfie: An image that includes oneself (often with another person or as part of a group) and is taken by oneself using a digital camera especially for posting on social networks The Salfie taker sees towards only the face of himself or herself instead of outside environment infront of the one making selfie. Salafi: A member of a conservative Muslim sect that attempts to return to the original teachings of Muhammad and his immediate followers. In real life it is seen that hard liner Salafi consider himself a muslim and others as unbelievers alike a selfie where the selfie taker watches only his face instead of the complete environment infront of him / her. Any thoughts?
  2. "The first step in knowledge is to listen. Then to be quiet and attentive. Then to preserve it. Then to put it into practice. Then to spread it." Hilyah al-Awliya by Abu Nu'aym: volume 3, page 283.
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    Bismillah Rahman Raheem. I am absolutely heartbroken after finding out Anti-Majos 3 had made a video entitled “when fake matam turns real!!” and making comments from the contributors with things about God being pleased with those who did (killing the Shias in that shooting video) or bringing a scholar who says that the only solution for the Shias is to kill the men, take their women as captives and enslave their children (I think the name was specifically Rami Issa). What is the sick and disgusting stuff? Did their prophet (saws) hurt the Jews and Christians during his time? The prophet only ever fought in a battle after being expelled with his followers from their homes, getting harassed and looted constantly, having the peace treaties broken and absolutely being oppressed! Now can anyone tell me when did the Shias do that? I think we need to report these channels for their hate speech which is a CLEAR crime. If the police will not listen then at least we have to try and take down these hate-inspiring videos and channels by reporting it on YouTube and Google. Who is with me and willing to help do this? Anti-majos production even called Imam Mahdi a “rat” in one of the YouTube comments when they themselves should believe in his appearance. Absolutely disgusting and sickening. What a great shame they bring to Islam for their fighting and enmity towards the other sects!
  4. Can there be understanding, tolerance and mutual respect toward Salafis and Salafism under the, in the Islamic Republic of Iran anyway, oft-propounded ideal of Islamic Unity?
  5. Every single Salafi following their Aqeedah believes Allah has two literal eyes he sees out of, but these two eyes are not like ours. Ibn Khuzaymah writes: “”Our Creator and Lord has two eyes, by them He sees what is under the soil, what is under the seventh earth and what is above the heavens.” [Kitab al-Tawhid, Ibn Khuzaymah] Ibn Taymiyyah writes "The Hadith means that Allah hears through his ears, and sees through his Eyes" (screenshots above] Now look at what Imam Muhammed al-Baqir (as) has said : علي بن إبراهيم، عن محمد بن عيسى بن عبيد، عن حماد، عن حريز، عن محمد بن مسلم، عن أبي جعفر عليه السلام أنه قال في صفة القديم: إنه واحد صمد أحدي المعنى ليس بمعاني كثيرة مختلفة، قال: قلت: جعلت فداك يزعم قوم من أهل العراق أنه يسمع بغير الذي يبصر ويبصر بغير الذي يسمع، قال: فقال: كذبوا وألحدوا وشبهوا تعالى الله عن ذلك، إنه سميع بصير يسمع بما يبصر ويبصر بما يسمع، قال: قلت: يزعمون أنه بصير على ما يعقلونه، قال، فقال: تعالى الله إنما يعقل ما كان بصفة المخلوق وليس الله كذلك. (sahih) (صحيح) [Imamiyya website translation] Salafis respond by saying 'His eyes are not like our eyes'. To that, here's a Sunni Maturidi-Hanafis response:
  6. Pakistan is Majority Sunni but you can find Shias in Significant number. Since it is believed that Quaid-e-Azam (Founder of Pakistan) was Ismaili Shia. But I see Wahabis and Deobandis are very much in Power. Barelvi is the only Sunni Branch which you can say is Shia Friendly but even Barelvis have lost their Control. Multan (City of Pakistan where I live) is City of Saints and filled with Shrines but people are are now thinking celebrating death anniversiry of Saints is something wastage of time. So SHOCKING point for me is Founder of Pakistan was Shia but today Wahabis are in power. It feels like in some years Pakistan will just be like Saudi Arabia.
  7. As-Salam-u-Alaikum everyone, I am currently a Masters by Research student studying the relationship between Sunni and Shia groups in Britain, my research is completely unbiased with no political or religious agenda whatsoever. I myself come from a mixed religious and cultural background and contradicting opinions on religion have been part of my upbringing, as such I very much appreciate a healthy debate. I have focussed on the relationship between Salafi and Shia groups in Britain and how that relationship has potentially evolved since the initial emergence of Salafism in Britain in the 1980s. I wanted to ask the people on this forum for their potential insight into these groups? Particularly what you think may be the biggest influencing factor: whether that might be essential theological differences, international or British politics or societal factors? Again, I would really appreciate any feedback you may have and thank you all in advance. If you would prefer to contact me directly my email address is misha.monaghan.2016@live.rhul.ac.uk Jazakumullahu Khair
  8. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/18/saudi-arabia-talks-alliance-rebuild-iraq-return-arab-fold It seems a serious hole in the Shia world is in the making. Iraq is drifting towards its Arab neighbour Saudi Arabia, leaving Iran further isolated. The article says that Muqtada Sadr has long been a critic of Iran's influence. And Saudi Arabia is opening a consulate in Najaf. All this is very ominous of a greater Wahabi influence in the Muslim world and beyond. I personally think Iraq should move closer to KSA ONLY under the condition that they restore Jannat ul Baqi and agree to joint control of Mecca and Medina by all Muslim nations. What do you guys think?
  9. Can anyone here give me some channels/sites where I can learn more about the beliefs of Shia, Sunni, Salafi, science etc. Because Ramadan is about learning too! Now I am a Shia, and I have the proof for the Shia are right, but I want to know what my brothers believe in (But I do not think Salafi see me as a brother...)
  10. I am talking about Dr Bilal Philips who is a very popular sunni speaker amongst millions of muslims who admire him. Here is a comment of his on Ashura on Facebook: (2013) "If anyone is stupid, it is you, for Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) did not teach us to remember the martyrdom of his own beloved uncle, Hamzah, so why should we have to remember that of his grandson?" This is height of jahliyat(ignorance) and it just goes to show how irresponsible sunnis are when they accept a hypocrite leader like him. I think we are witnessing the signs of judgement day when we have such leaders representing Islam.
  11. https://www.medinaminds.com/is-banning-salafi-literature-the-answer/
  12. So here I have a kind of question on the most popular criticism used bu Sunni/Wahabbis against shias. This is what I am talking about : http://www.sunni-news.net/en/articles.aspx?article_no=27879 Summary:Sunnis say that the beliefs of christians and shias are same as they take their prests/imams as gods other than Allah. Like in the case of Ali and Jesus, Christians believe that Jesus was a God but so week to die on a cross, while shias believe that Ali (a.s) is on higher rank than Prophet Muhammad and strong like God but so week to protect Islam after Prophet Muhammad and had to accept all kinds of accusations against him. (ASTAGFIRULLAH) Question : Now my question is that how can we prove them wrong ? Are we really saying that Ali has attributes of God ?
  13. This a the last music video of Hamed Zamani, Iranian revolutionary singer.
  14. There are many Sunni, Salafi, Deobandi, Barailvi, Ahl-e-Hadees and Wahabi Ulema that converted to Shi’a, especially in the Indian Subcontinent, many who were subsequently killed by Sippah-e-Sahaba (Lanatallah Aley On The Nasibi Wahabi Kuffar!). I’m only writing the ones that are common knowledge. List of the names of those Ullema who converted from the Sunni Schools of thought to Shia'ism: Maulana Wazeer Turabi - From Bhawalpur who was ex Deobandi, he has converted scores of people including Sunni Mullah's to Shi'asim Muhammad Tijani Simaoui - A Sunni Aalim born to a Sunni Aalim. Maulana Ismail Deoband Ex Deobandi converted to Shi’a. Was a big time debater and was responsible for converting entire villages to Shi’a when defeating their Mullah’s in debates. He also converted scholars to Shi’a when they lost such as Hafiz Sayfullah (Wahabi) and Saeed’ur Rahman Alavi (Deobandi). Killed when his car brakes mysteriously failed (Nasibi Wahabi). Hafiz Sayfullah - Read above Saeed'ur Rahman Alavi - Read above Maulana Ghulam Husayn Naeemi Ex Deobandi debated in Punjab Martyred by SSP (Lanatallah Aley On Nasibi Wahabi). Allamah Talib Husayn Kirpalvee (ex Barelvi) wrote over 50 books on the life of Rasul (s), Maula ‘Ali and Ahl’ul bayt . Martyred by SSP (Nasibi Wahabi!). Allamah Abdul Kareem Mushtaq Ex Barelvi authored 40 books refuting Nasabi lies against Shi’a appealed to the common man, converted many to Shi’a. Martyred by SSP (Nasibi Wahabi). Allamah Shah Zaeem Fatami was a Deobandi, infact the son in law of their leader Ataullah Bukhari, authored ‘Purdah ut tha hai’ [veils are lifted] when he converted. Was poisoned by his family (Laanat on Dushman-e-Ahlul Bayt). AM Abdul Qayum Alavi He was not just a Wahaby but was infact the side kick of Maulana Ghulamullah of SSP. He wrote one book when he was Sunni but exposing the Wahaby’s Tareekh Nasabi, and then wrote Tareekh Nasabi V2 when he became Shia. (Slap on the face of the Nasibi Wahabis) Maulana Tawakkul Husayn Ex Deobandi alive and kicking Ex Deobandi, very harsh volatile speaker Maulana Hafiz Younis Gujjar Ex Barelvi he is quite popular amongst the Punjabi speaking audiences. Maulana Tajideen Haydheri Ex Barelvi, converted in 70’s and a major debater, defeated all these Nasibi Mullah’s and was the lone Maulana who appeared in court in the 80’s (Karachi) when SSP filed a petition to declare Shi’a Kaafirs (Laanat on Dushman-e-Ahlul Bayt). Hafiz Muhammad author of the famous Fulq un Najaath A Sunni Maulana who authored this to counter all the Hate mail he’d received when he became Shi’a Allamah Haroon Gilani - converted four years ago from a Sunni family of Ulema and Pirs. Maulana Abdul Saqi Ex Barelvi scholar I heard when he was Sunni and after he was a Shi’a, good speaker really knows his stuff. Maulana Zahid-u-Rashdi - General Secretary of SSP (Sindh area) who became Shi’a in Prison I heard him speak in Rawalpindi but his name has slipped my mind. Maulana Imran - One of the SSP leaders stationed in Rawalpindi. Hakeem Syed Mahmoomd Gilani - Ex Ahle-Hadith became shia after research of famous books - wrote famous books : Aylia, Ohm aur Ali etc - He was Ahle Hadith before. from Sialkot. Danish Alvi - Big name from Charsada N. W .F .P, recently killed by SSP (Lanatallah Aley On The Nasibi Wahabi Kuffar!). He was a very learned man who converted 100s to Shia'ism. Shaykh Marwan Khleefat - author of 'Raabtul safinah' (I boarded the ark of salvation) Shaykh Mutasim Sayid Ahmed author of 'AlHaqeeqa AlThaia' (The lost Truth) Shaykh Isam Imad, he had a debate with the Wahabi sheikh and compulsive liar Uthman AlKhamees which ended in Uthman AlKhamees pulling out of the debate. This is the link for the debate, http://www.shiaweb.org/monadarat/Real/munazara1.html Sheikh Abu Muhammad Ordoni - Previously a Wahabi scholar wrote the book 'Fatima the Gracious'. This is online in english, http://al-islam.org/gracious/ Abdul Hakeem Buturabi - Converted from Sunni to Shia Ghulam Abbas (Spanish lawyer) converted to shiaism first he became sunni then he converted to shia after reading Ayatullah Shaheed Mothari articles on web. Idrees AlHussainy - Author of the book 'Laqad Shayyaany AlHussain' - 'Hussain made me a Shia' Maulana Abdul Hakeem - from Sunni to Shia Maulana Abdul Hakeem Carney - American Christian to Sunni to Shi'a Aalim Allama Muhammed Basheer more popularly known as "Fateh taxela who converted the full village of Taxela to the Shia'ism. Sheikh Jihad Ismael from Sydney reverted to Shiaism. Professor Ali Ibrahim - From Hindu to Sunni to Shia. Shiekh Hamidu - South Africa, Sunni to Shia Shiekh Safiyullah Khan - South Africa (former student Al-azhar), Sunni to Shia Shiekh Shaheed Matti - South Africa (former Al-azhar Student) Shiekh Usama Abdulghani- Was a sunni, then became shia Alim -USA Dr Hamid Algar - An author and speaker, he become shia after converting from chritianity to sunnism. Moulana Zakariya - from south africa Sheikh Abdillahi Nassir - An East African Sunni scholar/'alim became a Shi'a. Juma Omari Mayunga - a staunch Wahabi scholar became a Shi'a and has written tafsir of Qur'an with commentary in Kiswahili. Maulana Waheeduzaman - The first person who translated Sahih Bukhari to Urdu, a big Wahabi aalim, converted to shiaism in his last days. Shiekh Ali Grant - Argentinian, Sunni to Shia, His lectures are available at: www.hyderi.org Sakhawat Hussain - Recites majalis in Canada and America. Known for converting many Sunnis. AM Maulana Osama Al Mughani - Washington, USA, became shia from sunni, converting most of his family too. Sumiaki (Ruhollah) Religious researcher and computer engineer (Japanese) Sheikh Abdul Rahman Al-Ali Imam of a mosque in the province of Al-Anbar, Iraq (Iraqi) Leonard Peter Surenson (Dutch) Crystal Edwinson (Swedish) Doris Cluzin Music expert (German) Professor Lekenhowzin (American) Professor Istwili Claude (French) Hassan Shuhata (Egyptian) Roberto Arcadi (Italian) Dahir Hassan (American) Roberto Raico (Italian) Dr. Ali Linistad (Norwegian) Dr. Ali Kruger (German) Dr. Hussein Labiyal (German) Dr. Abdul Khaliq Aiman (Egyptian) Dr. Harish Waldman (Austrian) Amer Abu Tariq (British) Salih Al-Wardani (Egyptian) Yusif Kabisof (Russian) Ahmed Hanif (Canadian) Abdul Salam Al-Lagmish (Belgian) Fujiro Lumunuku (Italian) Abdul Wahid (Russian) Hassan Shamsuri (Malaysian) Ibrahim Zinco (African) Michael Buth (American) Dr. Ali Al-Shiekh (Iraqi) Abdul Baqi (Algerian) Mohammad Nadhim Zainalof (Russian) Shams Al-Arif (Indonesian) Mrs. Kazrum (Fatima) (Russian) Mrs. Hasina (British) Mrs. Nosrat bint Mohammad Isa (Malaysian) Mrs. Zainab Al-Hisi (German) Sheikh Hussain Al-Durghami (Egypt) Sheikh Hassan Shehate (Egypt) Sheikh Atallah Al-Saeed (Egypt) Sheikh Qandil (Egypt) Sheikh Mahmood Rajab (Egypt) Sheikh Dr. Muhammad Muhran (Egypt) Sheikh Dr. Muhammad Bakr (Egypt) Sheikh Mousa Saleh (Egypt) Sheikh Muhammad Abdulhafiz (Egypt) Sheikh Muhammad Al-Antaki (Syria) Sheikh Ahmad Al-Antaki (Syria) Sehikh Jamal Al-Halabi (Syria) Sheikh Seed Dahdooh (Syria) Sheikh Abdulmuhsen Al-Serawi (Syria) Sheikh Ibrahim Al-Qaderi (Syria) Sheikh Hussain Al-Raja (Syria) Sheikh Muhammad Naji (Syria) Sheikh Abdulaziz Kan'an (Syria) Sheikh Yaser Al-Hasaani (Syria) Sheikh Ahmad Al-Ghezali (Syria) Sheikh Dr. Muhammad Al-Tijani (Tunis) Sheikh Mubarak Beghdash (Tunis) Sheikh Ahmad Saleh (Tunis) Sheikh Hamad Al-Reeh (Sudan) Sheikh Mutasem Sayd Ahmad (Sudan) Sheikh buqroon (Sudan) Sheikh Ali Al-Hashemi (Kuwait) Sheikh Muhammad Al-Sehil (K.S.A) Sheikh Muhammad Al-Rabeei (K.S.A) Sheikh Dr. Marwan Khalifat (Jordan) Sheikh Hassan Al-Saqaf (Jordan) Sheikh Mustafa al-ordoni (Jordan) Sheikh Dr. Isaam Al-Imaad (Yemen) Sheikh Zakaria Al-Hadhrami (Yemen) Sheikh Hassan Al-Aeidroos (Yemen) Sheikh Dr. Muhammad Al-Mughli (Algeria) Sheikh Abdulbaqi Gerna (Algeria) Sheikh Mousa Shaki (Morocco) Sheikh Al-Maqdesi (Palestine) Sheikh Muhammad Shehada (palstine) Sheikh Alawai Al-Atas (indonesia) Sheikh Eidroos Al-Saqaf (indonesia) Sheikh Hussain Al-Kaf (indonesia) Sheikh Uloomaldeen Saeed (philippine) Sheikh Ahmad Qaemi (Turkey) Sheikh Muhammad Al-Amedi (Turkey) Sheikh Murad Bazkin (Turkey) Sheikh Hassan Kooni (Burkina Faso) Sheikh Hussain Sorabi (Burkina Faso) Sheikh Shareef Ahmad (Burundi) Sheikh Alfa Umar Bah (Ghuinea) Sheikh Ahmad Kolibali (Mali) Sheikh Tijani Malem (Niger) Sheikh Idrees Tijani (Nigeria) Sheikh Abdullah Naser (Kenya) ..................................... The list is never ending continuous slap on the face of the likes of Nasibis like Yasir, Canadian, The fake profiled Ali Raza and their Wahabi likes. Even today, members of such groups as SSP and Lashkar-e-Jhangvi are enlightened by the call of Allah and love for the Ahl-e-Bait. Maybe it is time for you Munafiqs to follow the footsteps of your forefathers and embrace Islam once and for all.
  15. Before anyone says that they are kafir or non-Muslim etc, this cannot be true because their shahada is same as any Sunni Muslim. To be a Muslim you have to agree to this shahada: لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا الله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ الله (lā ʾilāha ʾillā l-Lāh, Muḥammadun rasūlu l-Lāh) There is no god but God, Muhammad is the messenger of God. Only difference is that they believe that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was a Mahdi. I believe that technically the Ahmadiyya Muslims are Sunni Muslim, it is one of the branch of Sunni sect because it inherits majority of its teaching from Sunni school. Bear in mind that technically a certain branch comes under a certain sect according to whatever its teaching is inherited from. e.g. Shia Islam = Alawi, Twelver, Zaydi etc because it inherits its teachings from Shia school Sunni Islam = Ahmadi, Hanafi, Maliki, Wahabi, Salafi etc because it inherits its teachings from Sunni school Please share your intelligence. Here is the Ahmadiyya shahada which is exactly the same as any other Sunni branch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFiyt-Ijc0Y
  16. So, i want to perform a social experiment. I want to gather as much ridiculous Wahabi Fatwas as possible that we see online. And trust me i have seen some really out of this world and totally just crazy, crazy fatwas by these Wahabi Thugs. The only condition is that they have to be in video format and if possible with English translations for all of us to enjoy the monkey show. #5291 - Saudi Cleric Ali Al-Malki: West Tampers with Burgers, Whiskey to Induce Birth of Girls among Muslims (Archival) http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/5291.htm - This idiot read an article in China, never mentions the articles name, no source, who wrote it, who translated it, what exactly was mentioned in article but is willing to testify in front of God on day of judgement that since he read it in an article it must be true. I mean i am lost with words to be able to describe the shallowness of the intellect of this man and these are men who declare us Kafir and pray for us in the mosques to die and rot in hell.
  17. To all Shia on this board: first my condolences from the United States to any of you who were touched by the brutal murder of Sheikh al-Nimr in Saudi Arabia. I am not a Shia or a Muslim but a human being who is disgusted by what took place and disgusted that our leaders here in this country do not have the courage to condemn this act of barbarism. I understand as well as you do that there is more at play behind the scenes and we all know that the US, for its faults, does not actually want anyone to be beheaded, let alone an innocent and holy man like the Sheikh. We are greedy and deceitful beings - all of us - and evidently whatever Saudi Arabia does for the US is calculated to be worth our morals and decency as a nation. I've said it before: some day, historians will look down on the US during this period for being so nakedly self-serving to the point of enabling medieval barbarism. That brings me to the second thing I want to say: please do not judge Americans by the conduct of our government. I know many of you are probably American but many are not, and the America you see on television and read about in editorials, kissing the ring of King Abdullah/Salamander and bombing people with robots. The truth is that most of us are too busy or too stubborn or unfortunately too ignorant to think a moment about the significance of what America does abroad. A large part of that is due to our history and our geography; we've never been invaded and most of us think that war is something that happens "over there" to "those people" because the media and even society feeds us that notion to keep us from knowing better. So the focus of attention in America shifted immediately from an inconvenient truth (that our "ally" "over there" is a deceitful barbarian) to a welcome truism (Iran cannot be trusted and doesn't respect international norms because it is radical). At best, or perhaps worst, you might hear a commentator speak of it as though Saudi and Iran are equally to blame or equally radical and bad. "The Shia and Sunni never get along," etc. Sadly you may even hear "well, they're fighting each other..." as though the Iraq-Iran War was a glaring success and not a bloody atrocity. All that Americans (and many other Westerners, but particularly Americans) understand is that Muslims seem to be engaging in violence everywhere. They don't know or ask which Muslims or what they are fighting about because if you work a 9-5 job and have to raise kids and pay your bills and all that, you don't think you have the time to learn about some exotic far away conflict; you just think: Muslims fight, it's what they do! This takes me to the third point I'd like to raise: that the Iranian reaction and prominent Shia reactions in general have either served the enemy's purpose and played into Saudi hands, or otherwise focused on the wrong things. I won't waste your time explaining how burning the Saudi flag/embassy is counterproductive or why cursing Saudi's Western enablers for supporting evil won't win converts. Please keep a level head now and in the immediate future - as Shia usually do - because if you do, you will win. What Saudi represents and supports is not only disgusting; it's unsustainable even in the medium run. This doesn't mean I encourage you to lie down and take it or to be silent; rather, I am encouraging you to operate within the bounds and norms of the law to shed the light on Saudi evil. Don't walk into the trap they set out of desparation; fight only from a position of strength when you are guaranteed a victory. You already have what is just on your side, just be patient with us and give us time to catch up! I know you will because as I mentioned previously, Shia are always at the receiving end of the salafi nonsense. They get attacked by salafi and then called a terrorist by the salafi governments in the Middle East. Eventually the superiority of Shia morality and intellect will lead to victory; I am not Shia and I can see that 10000 miles away.* A caveat: give em hell where they already are in Iraq and Syria!
  18. Salam I was wondering about the view upon videos actually making fun of "Allahu Akbar". In the internet we typically see videos that make fun of this islamic term/sentence. So I was wondering what the islamic response to this would be because I feel kind of ridiculed by these videos. Like Allahu Akbar gets turned into a so called "meme" which for me is totally ridicolous because of these isis dogs. I don't know how to respond or react to this and I've met even muslims who don't mind and even they are making fun of it.
  19. Saturday night turned into a horror movie at London’s Leytonstone underground station as an attacker slashed a person’s throat while shouting “this is for Syria.” Police, who had difficulty detaining the man with only a Taser, are now treating the incident as a terror act. The attack took place in the ticket hall at Leytonstone station. Witnesses described a horrific scene, with a pool of blood on the floor and the attacker shouting, while threatening to stab others. Source: https://www.rt.com/uk/324882-london-leytonstone-station-stabbing-syria/ NOTE TO ALL ARBAEEN: Please stay safe because the wahabi's have struck literally a day before Arbaeen so please be careful at the Arbaeen Procession 07 December 2015. Also be careful look after the muslimah sisters as well because there is no telling of a attack on them or us by Far Right Protesters.
  20. So-called Muslims like Ibn Taymiyyah claim that – Allah forbid – Fatima Zahra (s.a.) was wrong in her claim over Fadak. At any rate, she should not have severed all communication from Abu Bakr and Umar. They were the rulers (haakim) of the time and she should have been cordial with them. Reply There is an interesting incident on the subject. At the end, readers can easily conclude whether Fatima Zahra (s.a.) was right or wrong and the message she sent across generations of Muslims by refusing to communicate with Abu Bakr and Umar. Being an infallible, there was complete wisdom in her stand that frustrates Muslims till date when they are called upon to answer the question – FOR MORE ARTICLES CLICK HERE Who is the Imam of Fatima Zahra (s.a.)? Allamah Amini (r.a.) corners Muslim scholars Some Saudi Salafi scholars invited Allamah Amini (r.a.) – the author of the Al-Ghadeer, arguably the most decisive book on the event of Ghadeer – for dinner. However Allamah Amini (r.a.) turned down their invitation. They insisted that Allmah Amini (r.a.) accompany them. On insistence, Allmah Amini (r.a.) acceded to their request. However, he put a condition that there would be no discussion or debate over dinner. They agreed. After dinner, a Salafi scholar in the assembly (there were around 70-80 of them) attempted to initiate a discussion. However, Allamah Amini (r.a.) refused to be drawn into a debate. Some of them suggested that in order to increase divine blessings, every scholar in the gathering should narrate a tradition from the Holy Prophet (s.a.w.a.) so that the gathering is illuminated through it. Those present there were are renowned traditionalists (Haafiz-e-hadees), a title conferred on those who have memorized at least a hundred thousand traditions. They started narrating traditions one by one until it was Allamah Amini’s (r.a.) turn. Allamah Amini (r.a.) said – My condition for narrating the tradition is that when I have narrated the same, each one should confirm whether he considers this tradition authentic or not. All those present agreed. Thus Allamah Amini (r.a.) narrated the famous tradition of the Holy Prophet of Islam (s.a.w.a.): قال رسول الله (صلوات الله علیه و آله ) : من مات و لم یعرف امام زمانه مات میته جاهلیه ‘One who dies without recognising the Imam of his time dies the death of ignorance.’ Thereafter he asked each and every person to testify the authenticity of the tradition. Everyone testified that the tradition was indeed authentic. Then Allamah Amini (r.a.) said: Now that you all accept this tradition, I have a question for each one of you: Did Fatima Zahra (s.a.) recognise the Imam of her time or not? And if she did, who was the Imam of Fatima Zahra (s.a.)? All the scholars present fell silent for a long time, with their heads bowed down. And since they didn’t have any reply, they began leaving the assembly one by one. Clearly they were in a fix. If they claim – she didn’t recognize (her Imam), then they are saying Fatima Zahra (s.a.) left the world in a state of disbelief (Allah forbid), and it is impossible that the Chief of all Women of the Worlds dies a disbeliever (Allah forbid)! If they say she did recognize (her Imam), then they have to find another Imam for her in place of Abu Bakr, since Bukhari (the most prominent scholar of Ahle Tasannun) says: ماتت و هي ساخته عليهما Fatima (s.a.) left the world in a state of intense anger at Abu Bakr (and Umar – as the narration says علیهما i.e. both of them) Since the Ahle Tasannun scholars were cornered and had no option but to testify to the legitimacy and leadership Ali b. Abi Talib (a.s.), they left the assembly with their heads hanging in shame.
  21. I did not think a Salafi would ever think about talking and laughing with a Shia but it happened to me. I spent some time in my uni prayer rooms with a Salafi and other Sunnis, they were all cool even the Salafi. He still did think that shias came from Ibn Saba but I corrected him. Now I wonder, did this happen because he is not an extreme Salafi and he was ignoring some of his school's ruling or do Salafis not have a problem with Shias? Gotta say they really were curious about Mut'a.
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