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Read the Reddit comments to understand what the thread was about, since the post has since been deleted. ....................................................................................... I'm so tired of the utterly nonsensical and VERY COMMON Sunni notion of 'I am happy to seek unity with Shias as long as they don't curse/insult/abuse any Sahaba, and especially NOT Aisha, Abu Bakr, Omar, Uthman. Firstly, any Shia claim regarding the sahabi that happens to go against the Sunni narrative is considered insulting. Secondly, and more importantly, is that the same notion is true for Shias... You are insulting the Ahlul Bayt by not accepting them as divinely appointed leaders of Allah, and infallible individuals, and perfect preservers of the religion of Islam, and a high means of seeking closeness to Allah (intercession). Not only are you insulting revered Shia figures by not following them, you are commiting MAJOR shirk by giving a false attribute to Allah, by saying that Allah has not always appointed an infallible leader on this Earth, and that there currently isn't an infallible leader. Furthermore, the real kicker is that plenty of revered Shia figures, such as Abu Talib (رضي الله عنه), are considered kuffar by Sunnis. Is this not insulting? So, how can we Shias unite with Sunnis based on their own fallacious logic? Shias are the minority, and Sunnis are the majority. It makes Sunnis think that they are Orthodox and that they have to unite with Heterodox for political and humanitarian reasons, and that Shias must make [ridiculous] compromises. Shias are far more receptive to the unity message, because we actually understand Sunni Islam, and can see the commonalities. We understand that we can't make Sunnis compromise on their beliefs. Simply by being the minority within Islam, by nature we Shias already understand Sunni beliefs, whereas Sunnis have a basic strawman understanding of Shia beliefs... which is natural, considering that they are the majority. Anyways, the point of my post is the following: Let's compile a list of revered Shia figures that are not given their proper status by Sunnis, according to Shia Islam... with an explanation given. ...This is to show that we Shias and Sunnis can unite, but we cannot unite upon revered figures and imamah. ...This will also serve as a way of showing Sunnis that this argument of theirs makes no sense. Another important question we may ask is "What about commonly revered figures like Imam Ali (عليه السلام) who is given different status in both sects? Can we unite upon Imam Ali (عليه السلام)?" ...a common Sunni criticism of political unity is that "Ali ibn Abi Talib (رضي الله عنه) is given an improper status in Shia religion because they call upon him... tawassul (intercession) of the 'dead' is Shirk! So there is absolutely no room for unity since we can't even agree on the status of the sahabi" [yes, I am aware that the Imams (عليه السلام) are still alive, but Sunnis don't believe this...] I would love to hear your thoughts. Wassalam. JazakAllah Khair. Fi sabilillah.

1) There is not Sunni in the world who has been able to refute this: Sahih al-Bukhari is the most authentic collection of hadiths in the Sunnah Sahih Bukhari: Narrated Jabir bin Samura: I heard Muhammad say "There will be twelve Muslim rulers." He then said a sentence which I did not hear. My father said "All of them (those rulers) will be from Quraish." Book 89:329 Sahih Muslim is the second most authentic collection of hadiths in the Sunnah Sahih Muslim: Narrated Jabir bin Samura: I heard Muhammad say "The (Islamic) religion will continue until the Hour (day of resurrection), having twelve Caliphs for you, all of them will be from Quraysh." Book 20:4477-4483 And there are more than 20 similar narrations Sunan al-Tirmidhi: The Prophet said: "There will be after me twelve rulers, all of them from Quraysh." Hadith 2149 (numbering of al-Alamiyyah) Sunan Abu Dawood: The Prophet said: "This religion remains standing until there are twelve vicegerents over you, all of them agreeable to the nation, all of them from Quraysh." Book 36:4266 A Jewish man named Na'thal, went to the Prophet and among the questions he asked who would succeed him. The Prophet said, specifying them, "After me, 'Ali ibn Abi Talib and then my two sons, Hasan and Husayn and after Husayn, nine Imams will follow from his children." "The Jewish man said, 'Name them.' "The Prophet said, "When Husayn leaves this world, his son, 'Ali, and after him, his child Muhammad and after Muhammad, his son Ja'far and after Ja'far, his son Musa and after Musa, his son 'Ali and after 'Ali, Muhammad. After Muhammad, his child, 'Ali and after 'Ali, Hasan and after Hasan, his child Muhammad al-Mahdi. These are the twelve Imams." Yanabi' al-Muwadat, p. 431 "This religion shall always be upright till there are twelve from Quraish. When they are no more, the earth will be destroyed (swallowed) with all its inhabitants" Kanz al-Ummaal, vol 12, pg 34, Tr. No. 3386 - Kash al-Astaar, part 1, pg 99 narrating from al-Ebaanah - E'laam al-Waraa pg 384 - Muqtazab al-Asar, pg 3-4 - Manaaqeb of ibn Shar Aashob, vol 1, pg 290 - Behaar al-Anwaar vol 36, pg 267, Chap 41, Tr. No. 87 - Al-Insaaf, pg 361 "Surely this religion will always overcome its opponents and no enemy or deserter can ever harm it till there are twelve caliphs from my nation in it. All of them will be from Quraish" Musnad-e-Ahmad, vol 5, pg 87 Nowehere in Sunnism are there 12 Muslim rulers, all of them from Quraysh. The 'Four Rightly Guided' Rashidun Caliphs were four, there were more than 30 Ummayad Caliphs, Nearly 40 Abbasid Caliphs, and many Sunni Caliphs are not even from Quraysh! Desperate / straw man Sunni responses: 1) "It doesn't say Ahlul Bayt! That means it's not talking about the 12 Imams!" Firstly, that makes no sense whatsoever. Maybe if it specifically said 'not Ahlul Bayt' what you're saying would actually make sense. Secondly, the 12 Shia Imams are the only 12 Muslim leaders who are all from Quraysh in all of Islam. http://en.wikipedia....List_of_Caliphs 2) "There are only 11 Imams! The 12th Imam does not exist! You have no proof he exists!" Firstly, it's important to note that this proof still completely contradicts Sunni'ism, but they completely disregard that fact and think that if they say Shias only believe in 11 Imams that, that somehow makes it any less contradictory to Sunni'ism. Secondly, this argument is made from an Atheist standpoint. Whether he exists or not, Twelver Shia believe in him and their belief of Islam is the only one in accordance with the Quran and Sunnah, so if you want to say you don't believe in the 12th Imam, you might as well be saying you are converting to Atheism. Thirdly, apart from the fact that he was witnessed by countless people at his father's funeral where he even led the prayer, there are dozens of hadiths confirming his existence, many of which are from Sunni sources: Surah Al-An'am, Ayah 55: "Thus do We elaborate the signs, so that the way of the guilty may be exposed." 2) It has been 100% authenticated in the Sunnah that the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said that he will leave the world with the Quran and Ahlul Bayt, and that the 'Quran and Sunnah' narration has been proven to be unauthentic. So why do they continue to attribute lies to the Prophet (pbuh) and reiterate 'my Sunnah', especially when the Sunnah itself confirms the 12 Imams? In addition to this: For those of who who are unaware, the Prophet Harun (as) was the brother and successor of the Prophet Musa (as). Ali ibn Abi Talib (as) in successorship had every right over the Ummah the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) had except prophethood (i.e. to communicate the direct words of Allah in first-person), the same way the Prophet Harun (as) had authority after the prophethood of Musa (as). 3) Proofs from the Quran: The Quran says in Surah Al-Ahzaab, Ayah 33: "...Verily, Allah has decreed to purify you, O' Ahlul Bayt, and sanctify you in a perfect way" Sunni rebuttal: "No! It's taken out of context, it's only talking about the wives of the Prophet (pbuh)!" Firstly, it is important to note that nowhere in this Ayah are the wives of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned. Surah Al-Ahzaab, Full Ayah 33: "Stay in your houses and do not display your finery with the display of the former [days of ] ignorance. Maintain the prayer and pay the zakat and obey Allah and His Apostle. Verily, Allah has decreed to purify you, O' Ahlul Bayt, and sanctify you in a perfect way." Each Ayah is an individual sign of Allah http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayah Secondly, Sunni responses: Maybe these people should look up the meaning of the words hypocrisy and irony. They reject the Quran and Sunnah, but continue saying they are on the right path of Islam and tell others that do follow the Quran and Sunnah they are on the wrong path. Surah Al-Munafiqun (The Hypocrites): {1} "When the hypocrites come to you they say, 'We bear witness that you are indeed the apostle of Allah.' Allah knows that you are indeed His Apostle, and Allah bears witness that the hypocrites are indeed liars." {2} "They make a shield of their oaths, and bar from the way of Allah. Evil indeed is what they used to do." Surah Al-Hajj: {54} "That those who have been given knowledge may know that it is the truth from your Lord, and so they may have faith in it, and their hearts may be humbled before Him. Indeed Allah guides those who have faith to a straight path." {55} "Those who are faithless persist in their doubt about it, until the Hour overtakes them suddenly, or they are overtaken by the punishment of an inauspicious day." {56} "On that day all sovereignty will belong to Allah: He will judge between them. Then those who have faith and do righteous deeds will be in gardens of bliss," {57} "and those who are faithless and who deny Our signs —for such there will be a humiliating punishment. " Allah will punish them for their hypocrisy and denying Allah's signs, as well as barring others from the way of Allah. Surah As-Saaffat, Ayah 83: "And most surely Ibraham was among the Shia of him (i.e., Noah)" Sunni rebuttal: "So?! Who cares if the Quran said Ibrahim, a Prophet of Allah, was a Shia?!" Surah As-Sajda, Ayah 24-25: {24} "And amongst them We appointed imams to guide [the people] by Our command, when they had been patient and had conviction in Our signs." {25} "Indeed your Lord will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection concerning that about which they used to differ." Sunni rebuttal: N/A This also backs the Shia belief that Imams are divinely appointed, and not elected as many of the Sunni Caliphs were. It is also important to note that these are also individual Ayahs. Sunnis don't perform Wudu according to the Quran (Surah Al-Ma'ida, Ayah 6) and say their Wudu is better Surah Al-Ma'ida, Ayah 6: "O you who have faith! When you stand up for prayer, wash your faces and your hands up to the elbows, and wipe a part of your heads and your feet, up to the ankles." It specifically says to "wipe" part of your heads and feet, not 'wash'. This is further emphasized by the fact that it was not simply included into same part as 'washing' faces and hands up to the elbows, but rather is a separate articulation/elaboration. It also specifically says "a part" of your heads and feet, not your entire foot. Sunni rebuttal: "Our way is more complete! That is the bare minimum in the Quran!" Astaghfirullah... And these are the same ones making up slanderous lies about the Shia believing the Quran is incomplete? I've seen many Sunni prayer guides that, when talking about Wudu, say to wash the feet 'properly' by washing the whole foot. Is the way in the Quran not proper?! Astaghfirullah... Surah Al-Anfaal, Ayah 75: "And those who believed afterwards and migrated, and waged jihad along with you, they belong to you; but the blood relatives are more entitled to inherit from one another in the Book of Allah. Indeed Allah has knowledge of all things." This Ayah is clearly talking to the Prophet (pbuh), as it is talking about migrating (i.e. to Medinah) and waging Jihad (i.e. the people who migrated to Medinah and waged Jihad with the Prophet (pbuh) against the polytheists). Ayah 70 also starts with "O Prophet!" and Ayah 75 is a continuation of the same sequence. Surah Al-Anfaal: {70} "O Prophet! Say to the captives who are in your hands, 'If Allah finds any good in your hearts, He will give you [something which is] better than what has been taken away from you, and He will forgive you, and Allah is all-forgiving, all-merciful.'" {71} "But if they seek to betray you, then they have already betrayed Allah earlier, and He gave [you] power over them; and Allah is all-knowing, all-wise." {72} "Indeed those who have believed and migrated and waged jihad with their possessions and persons in the way of Allah, and those who gave [them] shelter and help —they are heirs of one another. As for those who have believed but did not migrate, you have no heirdom in relation to them whatsoever until they migrate. Yet if they ask your help for the sake of religion, it is incumbent on you to help them, excepting against a people with whom you have a treaty; and Allah sees best what you do." {73} "As for the faithless, they are allies of one another. Unless you do the same, there will be turmoil on the earth and great corruption." {74} "Those who have believed, migrated, and waged jihad in the way of Allah, and those who gave them shelter and help, it is they who are truly the faithful. For them shall be forgiveness and a noble provision." {75} "And those who believed afterwards and migrated, and waged jihad along with you, they belong to you; but the blood relatives are more entitled to inherit from one another in the Book of Allah. Indeed Allah has knowledge of all things." Sunni rebuttal: N/A This is also in line with other Ayahs from the Quran about Prophets passing down divine authority through their progeny. Surah Al-Anbiya: {72} "And We gave him Ishaq, and Yaqub as well for a grandson, and each of them We made righteous." {73} "We made them imams, guiding by Our command, and We revealed to them the performance of good deeds, the maintenance of prayers, and the giving of zakat, and they used to worship Us." Surah Al-Ankabut, Ayah 27: "And We gave him Ishaq and Yaqub, and We ordained among his descendants prophethood and the Book, and We gave him his reward in the world, and in the Hereafter he will indeed be among the Righteous." Surah Maryam: {51} "And mention in the Book Musa. Indeed he was exclusively dedicated [to Allah], and an apostle and a prophet." {52} "We called him from the right side of the Mount and We drew him near for confidential discourse." {53} "And We gave him out of Our mercy his brother Harun, a prophet." We come to this again: Surah Al-An'am: {82} "Those who have faith and do not taint their faith with wrongdoing —for such there shall be safety, and they are the [rightly] guided.'" {83} "This was Our argument that We gave to Ibraham against his people. We raise in rank whomever We wish. Indeed your Lord is all-wise, all-knowing." {84} "And We gave him Isaac and Jacob and guided each of them. And Nuh We had guided before, and from his offspring, Dawud and Sulaiman, Ayyub, Yaqub, Musa and Harun —thus do We reward the virtuous—" {85} "and Zakariyya, Yahya, Isa and Ilyas, —each of them among the righteous—" {86} "and Ismail, Alyasa, Yunus and Lut —each We graced over all the nations—" {88} "That is Allah's guidance: with it He guides whomever He wishes of His servants. But were they to ascribe any partners [to Allah], what they used to do would not avail them." {89} "They are the ones whom We gave the Book, the judgement and prophethood. So if these disbelieve in them, We have certainly entrusted them to a people who will never disbelieve in them." {90} "They are the ones whom Allah has guided. So follow their guidance. Say, 'I do not ask you any recompense for it. It is just an admonition for all the nations.'" Surah Al-Furqan: {35} "Certainly We gave Musa the Book and We made Harun, his brother, accompany him as a minister." {36} "Then We said, 'Let the two of you go to the people who have denied Our signs.' Then We destroyed them utterly." Surah Al-Qasas: {34} "Harun, my brother —he is more eloquent than me in speech. So send him with me as a helper to confirm me, for I fear that they will impugn me.'" {35} "He said, 'We will strengthen your arm by means of your brother, and invest both of you with such authority that they will not touch you. With the help of Our signs, you two, and those who follow the two of you, shall be the victors.'" Closing statement: Sunnis who see these signs from the Quran and Sunnah and continue to reject Islam in favor of Sunni'ism can no longer be considered Muslims (imo). There are certain requirements for being a Muslim, and among them are believing in and following the Quran 100% and obeying the Prophet of Allah (pbuh), neither of which Sunnis do. Sunnis have created and follow deviations in Islam, and worse than that is that they accuse Islam of deviations and fabricate lies against Allah's perfected religion. These issues are extremely serious and need to be confronted at every opportunity. I always see people who post here saying 'omg don't say that! You'll hurt the Sunnis feelings!' Islam is more important than their ego. The Quran says to talk in a way that is best, but never says to compromise the truth in doing so. Imam Ali ibn Abi Talib (as) confronted the Sunnis deviations and wrongdoing from the very moment it started and called them munafiqun. People mistake his patience for passiveness. Nahj al-Balagha, Sermon 6: "By Allah I shall not be like the badger, which feigns sleep on continuous (sound of) stone-throwing till he who is in search of it finds it or he who is on the look out for it overpowers it. Rather, I shall ever strike the deviators from truth with the help of those who advance towards it, and the sinners and doubters with the help of those who listen to me and obey, till my day (of death) comes. By Allah I have been continually deprived of my right from the day the Prophet died till today." Nahj al-Balagha, Sermon 7: "About the hypocrites (munafiqun) 'They have made Satan the master of their affairs, and he has taken them as partners. He has laid eggs and hatched them in their bosoms. He creeps and crawls in their laps. He sees through their eyes, and speaks with their tongues. In this way he has led them to sinfulness and adorned for them foul things like the action of one whom Satan has made partner in his domain and speaks untruth through his tongue.' Footnotes by translator: Amir al-mu'minin says about the hypocrites (i.e. those who opposed him before and during his Caliphate) that they are partners in action of Satan and his helpers and supporters. He too has befriended them so much that he has made his abode with them, resides on their bosoms, lays eggs and hatches young one from them there, while these young ones jump and play in their laps without demur. He means that Satanic evil ideas take birth in their bosoms and grow and thrive there. There is no restrain on them, nor restriction of any kind. He has so permeated in their blood and mingled in their spirit that both have become completely unified. Now eyes are theirs but sight is his, the tongue is theirs but the words are his, as the Prophet (Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã) had said, "Verily, Satan permeates the progeny of Adam like blood." That is, just as the circulation of blood does not stop, in the same way the quick succession of Satan's evil ideas know no break and he draws man towards evil in sleep and wakefulness, and in every posture, rising or sitting. He so paints them with his dye that their word and action reflect an exact portrait of his word and action. Those whose bosoms shine with the effulgence of faith prevent such evil ideas but some are already ready to welcome those evils and these are the persons who under the garb of Islam are ever after advancement of heresy." Surah Al-Imran, Ayah 19-20: {19} "Indeed, with Allah religion is Islam, and those who were given the Book did not differ except after knowledge had come to them, out of envy among themselves. And whoever defies Allah’s signs [should know that] Allah is swift at reckoning." {20} "So if they argue with you, say, ‘I have submitted my will to Allah, and [so has] he who follows me.’ And say to those who were given the Book and the unlearned ones, ‘Do you submit?’ If they submit, they will certainly be guided; but if they turn away, then your duty is only to communicate; and Allah sees best the servants." Surah Ghafir (Surah Al-Mu'min), Ayah 4: "No one disputes the signs of Allah except the faithless. So do not be misled by their bustle in the towns." Surah Al-Imran, Ayah 4: "Then those who reject Faith in the Signs of Allah will suffer the severest penalty, and Allah is Exalted in Might, Lord of Retributions." Surah Al-Ma'ida, Ayah 54: "O you who have faith! Should any of you desert his religion, Allah will soon bring a people whom He loves and who love Him, [who will be] humble towards the faithful, stern towards the faithless, waging jihad in the way of Allah, not fearing the blame of any blamer. That is Allah’s grace which He grants to whomever He wishes, and Allah is all-bounteous, all-knowing." Surah Al-Hajj: {54} "That those who have been given knowledge may know that it is the truth from your Lord, and so they may have faith in it, and their hearts may be humbled before Him. Indeed Allah guides those who have faith to a straight path." {55} "Those who are faithless persist in their doubt about it, until the Hour overtakes them suddenly, or they are overtaken by the punishment of an inauspicious day." {56} "On that day all sovereignty will belong to Allah: He will judge between them. Then those who have faith and do righteous deeds will be in gardens of bliss," {57} "and those who are faithless and who deny Our signs —for such there will be a humiliating punishment."

Salam alaykom, I recently made this video displaying Ayahs from the Quran and hadiths from the Sunnah confirming Shia Islam and thought I'd share it here. If you have any feedback or have any errors to point out, such as grammatical mistakes or mistaken Ayah numbers, etc. please let me know. :)