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  1. is there any mataam or mosques for Shia in Eindhoven?
  2. Kyun karta hai behes matam e shabbir (عليه السلام) per Ek bar dar e zehra s.a pa aakar dekh Agar ho phir bhi utni pareshani Khud ki nasl ka pata laga kar toh dekh. insta- @ammar.Abbas
  3. Salam . . . as i always try to explain in my posts that i am just a beginner in research on shiasm in the search of truth as i will never want to hurt someone's feeling at any level and if you find anything hurtful from my side i apologies in advance as my intention is just to know and learn + please avoid my bad english as well as i am not too good in it . . . so the question that i mostly asked about is MATAM . . . yes i do know that EVERY human being will cry after listening to masaaib of Karbala and after that . . . but i am unable to understand the current form of matam . . . beaten urself in deep grief looks fine to me but the way people do matam in sub-continent is it good? is there any hadiths about it?
  4. Salam, lately i've been very interested to know more about muharram and what shia do. Can anyone please tell me what do shia do in there majlis, in detail. From the start till the ending. That would be great
  5. Where does it say in the Quran that you can do it? Isnt mourning just allowed on the first three days of death? Why is it an annual thing for you and do all shias do it. I think it is self abuse
  6. Why is matam important in shia sect? Is matam some sort of trance state?
  7. (Salam) I am follower of Ayatullah Ali Sistani (hz). I read his (hz) fatwas on net about Zanjeer Zani (Hitting one's back with Knives hanging with chains) that one should avoid this because if a non-muslim sees this he does not understand it. I intend to do Zanjeer Zani this year. I live in Lahore/Pakistan where majority is muslim and even during the procession `majorty is Shia`. My question is that if it is not declared absolute haram by Ayatullah Sistani (hz), then i will like doing this year.
  8. Salam everyone, I recently came accross a post on social media showing pictures of cutting babies foreheads with knives on ashura. It was a long debate with that person afterwards and i asked him for some time to answer his question of whether or not this was fair and islamic. Can anybody please give me some knowledge? Your help will be appriciated alot! Jazakallah
  9. As-Salaamu Alaykum. Do certain practices amongst the Twelvers have a more cultural aspect to it than religious? For instance, what is the basis of conforming to such practices as organising and participating in processions, matam and zanzir?
  10. Karbala Special, Ashura 2010 TV Show, with Hujjatul Islam Ocaq Nejad Agha, as guest. This video explains everything in brief. And I think it will be beneficial to everyone, especially, to the new-to-shia-Muslims and non-Muslims. The topics discussed are: The forms of Quran and the status of Ahlulbayt (Household of the Prophet) in Islam.Why did Imam Hossein rise?Why do we commemorate the tragedy of Ashura after all these years?The Days of God in the Holy Quran.Why do we cry for Imam Hussein?What is the wisdom behind matam (mourning)?The spiritual levels of mourning.Going to the excess and extremism in azadari and the middle path.
  11. Salaam to all, Just like the title says, this post is about zanjeer pictures. Post pictures of zanjeers you have used or you will use for next year. By this I mean the actually zanjeers, not you doing zanjeer matam or bloody pictures. Just the actual zanjeers themselves. Thanks and Wasalam :)
  12. Salaam, Firstly I would like to say I am a shia and have been since birth. Whilst reading another thread on this forum about tatbir, it got me thinking; is matam a central part of a shias faith? Personally whilst i understand it is completely down to the intention of the person doing the action; zanjeer, tatbir etc I don't really agree with it. I understand that matam allows you to feel moved and is a show of emotion and a stance to side with the imams, I dont agree with the concept of tatbir due to the potential harm it can do to you. My question is, are there any hadeeths which state something along the lines of if you do not agree with tatbir etc that you are not considered as a shia? Please note I am talking about tatbir and not matam with just your hands. Thank you for your time Wasalaam
  13. Salaam all i hope you are all well :) I love iranian nohas and i really want this latmiyat translated into english as i really like it and i do understand some of it, however i would love to know what all of it means and would very much appreciate it is someone would be so kind as to provide a translation. I know it may be difficult but if you could please translate as much as you can Thank you May god bless you :)
  14. i personally only found this out recently but on the 23rd of December people who lived around the area of Madina Jannat Ul Baqi went and did matam at Jannat Ul Baqi, now bearing in mind this is the first time this has happened during the regime of the Sauds, and to my knowledge nothing interrupted them while doing to the matam however if anyone knows more about this then please do tell.
  15. First off I would like to say im starting this thread to show others who dont do it why the people who do matam choose to do it, and what they gain from it. I will post my feelings: When I do matam or even say Ya Ali (or any prophets/imams) for that matter, or the month of muharram especially, all the prophets and imams come to mind, my soul vibrates with the essence of their names, Imam Ali's (all imams) sacrifice for Allah, his power and will because of his love and obedience to Allah, his strength in the wars he fought with the prophet for the same of Allah and spreading his religion, his sacrifices he did and saw for the same of Allah, He knew his two sons will become martyred to keep this religion alive, he saw his wife and newborn get killed, his house arrest because of his views for Allah, his rights that got taken, he giving charity while in prayer and verse revealed, Hadith Ghadir, Hadith Kisa, Quran 33:33...all these lighten my soul and body with energy and will power and love for this deen, for striving at all times any time, this feeling cannot be measured! Its like my soul flares towards this sacred path that can never be reached but only sought to. My heart palpitates with sadness and strength, it makes me feel sorry for those who are sick, are being oppressed, those that are hungry, the orphans, if it wasnt for matam for my, and as some people who are against it call it, a "ritual", I honestly would have not been like this to an extent even more. Some might say they are already feel sorry for those types of people, but let me tell you its at another level, I feel happy whether something good or bad happens because I understand it. I sort of feel at a micro level from the true level of what the 14 infallibles felt everyday: Truly living for Allah....It makes me want to do what Hussain A.S did, or all the prophets and imams. I will leave it at this, Wa Salaam
  16. (salam) Is self-flagellation allowed in Islam? I did some research and made this: http://matamislam.blogspot.com/
  17. AOA, Okay I have a question, I'm a bit in doubt of matam, why exactly do we do it? And if the answer is remembrance of Hussain A.S that is fine, but more than matam I doubt Nohas. God forgive me but I think that Nohas sort of sound like songs, they have a rhythm with the matam and usually rhyme. Please do not get me wrong I love Islam/Shias/Muhammad/Ali/Hassan/Hussain. Would be nice for someone to clear things up! Thanks, Salam. "Hussain is from me, and I am from Hussain" -Muhammad
  18. Salaams Ya Ali Madad I just wanted to ask, seeing as for years we have made an effort to do chehlum in Shaam, whether with the dire situation this year if anyone is going and if so how have they arranged visa, travel, accomodation? Wasalaam
  19. What do all of you brothers and sisters think about zanjeer zani? I believe it is haram in most cases, and I want some of your opinions so I can also present my ideas and reasoning.
  20. me and my sunni friend having a chat regarding matam and then he give me these links, can any one tell me what to answer him now. Faroo-e-kafi vol.1 Kitab-ul-Janaiz Ch:80 hadees:1 page:333 " Farmayah Hazrat ny ky Rona, Peetna, Mon per Tamanchy Marna, Seena Kootna, Sar ky Ball Nochna, aour Nooha Karna yeh Soorat taraky Sabber hy or Sahih Tareeqy ko chodna hy" Faroo-e-kafi vol.1 Kitab-ul-Janaiz Ch:78 hadees:7 page:328 " Hazrat Muhammed(s.a.w) ky farzand Tahir ka jab inteqal hoa to App(s.a.w) ny beby Khadeja ko Rony sy manna kiya or farmayah kiya toom Is per Razi nahy ky osy Janat ky darwazy per khara pao" Nahjul Balagha Part 3 page 745 Irshad 322 "Hazrat Ali(R.A) aik jaga sy guzery to kuch orten Maqtooleen per Giryah ker rahy then itny men os qabeely ky sardar ap ky khidmat men hazer hoye to Hazrat Ali R.A os per naraz hoye or kaha ky kiya tomhara bas in orton per nahy chalta ky inhen giryah kerny sy maana ker sako" pleasee respong urgently regarding this. thankyou.
  21. Salam Alykum. So I've gotten some questions and hadiths put in front of me that says that doing matam is not allowed. Can someone please explain it to me? ' it is narrated from Imaam Ja’afar Saadiq that the Messenger of Allaah (sal-Allaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam) said, "A muslim beating his thighs at a time of difficulty is synonymous to wasting his deeds." Muhammad Baaqir said, "Whoever hit themselves, by slapping their faces and chests and pulling their hair then he has left patience and adopted a way other than Islaam and he is despicable. Allaah causes his good deeds to be wasted and whoever cried loudly is impatient which contradicts patience and this is unlawful". The Messenger of Allaah (sal-Allaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam) said to Faatimah (radi-Allaahu ‘anhu), "When I die do not cry over me, or pull your hair, or lament or mourn over me."( Furoo al-Kaafee, Kitaab an-Nikah (2/128) ) The Messenger of Allaah (sal-Allaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam) said at a time of difficulty do not hit your cheeks nor your faces, do not pull your hair, do not rip your clothes nor wear black clothes or lament and mourn( Furoo al-Kaafee, (2/128) ) Imaam Ja’afar Saadiq said, "Crying on the deceased with a loud voice and ripping ones clothes is not permissible( Furoo al-Kaafee (1/118). ) Alee (radi-Allaahu ‘anhu) said, "Whoever at a time of difficulty hit his thighs then his deeds will be wasted."( Nahj al-Balaaghah (2/224) Printed in egypt )
  22. From www.yaali.co.cc [All In One Shia Website] We read in Ahl'ul Sunnah's authority work Ma'arij al Nubuwwah, Chapter 1 page 248: "Adam was so distressed that he smashed his hands onto his knees and the skin from his hands caused gashes from which bone could be seen". As evidence we shall cite the following works: 1. Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 92, Number 446 2. Sunan al Nasai, Volume 3 page 305 3. Adaab al Mufarad, page 426 4. Sahih Muslim Volume 1 page 291 5. Musnad Abu Aawna, Volume 2 page 292 Sahi bukhari Narrated 'Ali bin Abi Talib: That Allah's Apostle came to him and Fatima the daughter of Allah's Apostle at their house at night and said, "Won't you pray?" 'Ali replied, "O Allah's Apostle! Our souls are in the Hands of Allah and when he wants us to get up, He makes us get up." When 'Ali said that to him, Allah's Apostle left without saying anything to him. While the Prophet was leaving, 'Ali heard him striking his thigh (with his hand) and saying, "But man is quarrelsome more than anything else." (18.54) "Then came forward his wife in grief, she smote her face and said (what! I) An old barren woman?" Quran 51:29 We read in Tafseer Kabeer, Volume 9 page 98: Hazrat yaqoob ka rona We read in Ahl'ul Sunnah's authority work Aqd al Fareed, Volume 1 page 342: æáãÇ äõÚí ÇáäðøÚãÇä Èä ãõÞóÑóøä Åáì ÚãÑ Èä ÇáÎØÇÈ æÖÚ íÏóå Úáì ÑÃÓå æÕÇÍ íÇ ÃÓÝí Úáì ÇáäÚãÇä When Umar received news of the death of Numan ibn Muqran, he placed his hand on his head and wailed: 'O my grief for Numan!' We find a similar narration in Kanz al Ummal, Vol.8, Page 117, Kitab al Maut: When Omar heard of Nu'man ibn Muqran's death he beat his head and screamed, "O what a pity that Nu'man died". Let us refute this Nasibi by citing Allamah Shibli Numani al Hanafi is a renowned Sunni scholar from the Indian subcontinent. In his Sirat-un Nabi (Eng translation Volume 2 pg 74) quoting Sirat Ibn Hisham we read the following about Hamzah (as) martyrdom: "The Holy Prophet (P) returned to Madina and found the whole city gone into mourning. Whenever he went, he heard wailing and lamentation in every house. He was grieved to find that all who were martyred in the battle had their mourners doing their duty to the memory of their dear ones. But there was none to mourn the death of Hamzah (ra). Overwhelmed with grief, the words that there was no one to mourn the loss of Hamzah escaped his lips. The Ansâris were touched to the core when they heard this remark from the Prophet(s). They asked their women to go to the house of the Prophet (S) and mourn for Hamzah. The Prophet (p) thanked them for their sympathy, prayed for their well-being, but added that it was not permissible to lament in memory of the dead. (Women in Arabia were used to wailing and lamenting aloud, they would tear off their garments, dig their nails into their cheeks, slap themselves on the face and put up loud screams. This undesirable practice was from that day stopped for future)" Al Muhaddith Shah Abdul Haqq Dehlavi in Madarij un Nabuwat records the event as follows: "When Holy Prophet (s) reached Madina, he saw that cries could be heard from most of the houses of Ansaar (the helpers) but not from Hamza's house. Holy Prophet (s) said that wasn't there anyone to cry over Hamza? The helpers (Ansaar) asked their women to mourn over Hamza first and then they may go and cry over their own martyr. The women went to Hamza's house in the evening and kept crying till midnight. When Holy Prophet(s) woke up and asked about it, he was told the whole thing. Holy Prophet(s) blessed them by saying" May Allah be pleased with you and your children." As narrated by al Tabari in History Volume 9 page 183 (English translation by Ismail Poonawala): Abbas narrates: "I heard Ayesha saying "The Messenger of God died on my bosom during my turn, I did not wrong anyone in regard to him. It was because of my ignorance and youthfulness that the Messenger of God died while he was in my lap. Then I laid his head on a pillow and got up beating my chest and slapping my face along with the women". We read in Tareekh Kamil Volume 3 page 89: "When Uthman was killed his killers intended to sever his head. His wives Naila and Umm'ul Baneen lay over him screamed and began to beat their faces" Narrations also record that Uthman's daughter also acted likewise. As evidence we shall rely on the following Sunni works: 1. Al Bidayah wa al Nihaya, Volume 7 page 371 2. Tareekh Tabari, Volume 6 page 302 3. Tareekh Aathim Kufi, page 159 We read in Riyadh al Nadira page 187: "When Umar died the Djinns recited a elegy 'Umar female Djinns are mourning you in a loud voice and they are beating their faces' Baba Fareed Ganj Shakar of Pak Patan is a major Sunni Sufi Saint. He commands thousands of adherents from the Indian Subcontinent. We read in the Sunni text From Uswa - e - Sufia Uzzaam, Page 8: He used to lament and cry for Imam Husayn (as) on the day of Ashura so much so that he would fall unconscious. It is narrated from him that there was a saintly man in Baghdad and when the tragedy of Karbala was described to him, he cried so piteously and profusely and smashed his head so hard on the ground out of grief that he died! The same night, people saw him in their dream and enquired of his condition to which he replied: I gave up my life for the love of Ahl - e - Bait (as) hence Allah has pardoned me and I now live with Imam Husayn (as). From www.yaali.co.cc [All In One Shia Website]
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