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Christmas Mubarak I guess would be the politically correct way for a Muslim to say it. So I’ll wish all my Muslim brothers and sisters, Christmas Mubarak! And to all my Christian neighbours I say, Merry Christmas! I also want to share with them some of the Baraka and blessings in remembering and celebrating the birth of one of Allah Ta’ala’s guiding lights on Earth, نبي الله عيسى بن مريم The Prophet of Allah Ta’ala Jesus son of Mary عليه و على نبيّنا صلوات الله May Allah elevate his and our Prophet’s saw status And may Allah Ta’ala help us all in realising just how much we have in common with the rest of humanity. فَأَشَارَتْ إِلَيْهِ قَالُوا كَيْفَ نُكَلِّمُ مَنْ كَانَ فِي الْمَهْدِ صَبِيًّا (29) قَالَ إِنِّي عَبْدُ اللَّهِ آتَانِيَ الْكِتَابَ وَجَعَلَنِي نَبِيًّا (30) وَجَعَلَنِي مُبَارَكًا أَيْنَ مَا كُنْتُ وَأَوْصَانِي بِالصَّلَاةِ وَالزَّكَاةِ مَا دُمْتُ حَيًّا (31) وَبَرًّا بِوَالِدَتِي وَلَمْ يَجْعَلْنِي جَبَّارًا شَقِيًّا (32) وَالسَّلَامُ عَلَيَّ يَوْمَ وُلِدْتُ وَيَوْمَ أَمُوتُ وَيَوْمَ أُبْعَثُ حَيًّا (33) "So she pointed to him. They said, "How can we speak to one who is in the cradle a child?" [Jesus] said, "Indeed, I am the servant of Allah . He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet. And He has made me blessed wherever I am and has enjoined upon me prayer and zakah as long as I remain alive And [made me] dutiful to my mother, and He has not made me a wretched tyrant. And peace is on me the day I was born and the day I will die and the day I am raised alive" Maryam 19/29-33 السلام عليك يا نبي الله عيسى بن مريم و رحمة الله و بركاته

Salaam, Who taught or revealed the Gospel to Jesus? Since we believe Jibraeel revealed the Qur'an to our Nabi and Jibraeel is the Arcangel of Revelation, who revealed the Gospel to Jesus and is there any evidence? Same question for Ibrahim and Musa... Did Allah speak directly to Abraham and Moses? Did Allah also speak directly to Jesus and Muhammad and is there any evidence? By "evidence" I specifically mean Ayats in Qur'an, Hadith or anything from our Imams stating these things. Thank you!

Wa salam alaikum! (did I spell that right?) I have a question about which I would love to hear a Muslim perspective. It regards Jesus Christ, a favorite for all of us. In my conversations with Muslims, many say things like "Jesus never claimed to be God." So I would like to know what you (the Muslims on here) would say about this passage from John chapter 8: 54 Jesus answered, “If I want glory for myself, it doesn’t count. But it is my Father who will glorify me. You say, ‘He is our God,’ 55 but you don’t even know him. I know him. If I said otherwise, I would be as great a liar as you! But I do know him and obey him. 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced as he looked forward to my coming. He saw it and was glad.” 57 The people said, “You aren’t even fifty years old. How can you say you have seen Abraham?[j]” 58 Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I am![k]” 59 At that point they picked up stones to throw at him. But Jesus was hidden from them and left the Temple. [emphasis mine; for full context, check here] In this passage, we see Jesus expressing several important things. God is his father Jesus is older than Abraham Jesus uses the name of God {"I am"} as a description of himself. The Jewish authorities recognized this as a claim to divinity, as evidenced by their grabbing of stones to kill him. God vindicated this claim by hiding Jesus so he could leave the Temple safely. What are your thoughts about this passage?

Jesus does not require women to wear a hijab but requires our hearts to be pure, modest, and full of him. Why in Islam women wear hijab and think that they are close to God when in fact it does mean anything because I know women who wear hijab and tons of makeup and flirt with men. Is Islam misleading women by requiring them to wear hijab? or is this rule just for men to better control themselves. I do not understand. And if it is for men why should I be responsible for another person's lust or desires? As a woman in Middle East country I noticed because I do not wear Hijab, muslim men think they have more "right" to look at me? They stare, in Western countries men are more respectful of women. Middle Eastern men seem to think women are for them and if they do not wear hijab they are trying to show off. Is this the effect of Islam on society? I feel the Western society is better because I am not stared at like here in Middle East.

Hello everybody, I am new to the community and I just have a question regarding the Shia Muslim view on the crucifixion of Christ. I have been interested in comparative religion as of late and I have been studying up on Islamic Christology just to get a better idea of it, and most of my focus has been on the Islamic view of Jesus's crucifixion which is central to my faith and I know can be of huge controversy between Christians and Muslims. As I understand it, the vast majority of Muslims (mainly Sunni) hold to the a substitution view on the death of Christ, that is, someone was made to appear like Christ (possibly Judas) and was crucified in his place instead while Jesus was assumed into heaven by the help of Allah. This seems to be in full agreement with Surah An-Nisa 4:57 where is explicity states, "That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not..." I have, however, come across alternative views and interpretations among with verse, particularly among Ahmaddiyas who advocate for a swoon theory, and I have also come across different theories among Shias, some holding to the traditional view that most Sunnis hold to, while others holding to a more esoteric view like the Ismaili's Shias, though I haven't been able to find a full explanation of their belief. As far as I understand it, some Sunnis don't consider Shias to be true Muslims due to these kinds of beliefs. Could anyone further explain the views on the crucifixion of Jesus in Shia Islam?

Why every time I that I mention Jesus and my love for him, the Muslim person I am speaking with goes into this script, (I feel like it is a script because diverse people have used the same words verbatim), of how they love Jesus too. They say, "One cannot be Muslim unless he believes in Jesus, I love Jesus, I love Jesus more than you" Honestly, this shows a great misunderstanding in the Muslim's person understanding. Do Muslim people realize that Christians do not love Jesus like as a prophet, we do not love him a religious duty. We surely do not love him in the context of a person from the Islamic faith would love him. We do not relate nor believe in him as someone from the Islamic faith. They might as well be two completely different people. (They have different life stories, deaths, resurrection, and prophecies told in the Koran and the Bible). Do Muslim people understand that when a Christian expresses their love for Jesus, they are referring to a love deeper than that of a mother, a child, or a husband/wife? This is a love of "savior", meaning: I was dead and he gave me life. I was poor and he gave me riches. I had ashes, he gave me beauty. He not only gave me life, but a blessed, abundant beautiful. I owe him my life. To me, this type of response to a Christian who talks about their love for Jesus reveals a wide gap of understanding from the Muslim person. Do you owe Jesus your life, did he stay with all night when you were alone and no one was there, did he sing to you songs and comfort and fill your heart with life, truth, and love? If not, then please don't tell me you love him, because you don't know him to love him. How do you love what you do not know? Maybe you love the idea of him, but not him. For example, a weak analogy would be you sharing about the birth of your son, and how much your son means to you and he is your life and your joy and your pride. The person you speak with who has never seen your son, nor knows him, says, "I love him too, more than you, I love him so much". He then says, "What's his name, I forgot" and goes his life without ever spending any time with or buying anything for your son. You would say, "Do not tell me you love my son, your words are just lip service, and flattery". Lip service and words are increasingly meaningless in this world when they have no action behind them. Does this frustration make sense, I always remind myself, the Muslim person has the best intention to make good relations with me, but they just do not understand as they should.

The following are wise teachings of Prophet Jesus(as) in the words of Prophet Muhammad and the Purified Imams. Jesus (as) said: Oh Apostles! How many lanterns have been extinguished by the wind and how many devoted servants of God have been destroyed by self-pride! (Mustadrak-al-wasail/ vol 1/ pg 139/ hadith 10) Jesus (as) said: Verily you will not attain that which you love except through having patience with that which you hate. (Mustadrak-al-wasail/ vol 2/ pg 425/ hadith 22) Jesus (as) was asked: Who taught you good manners? He replied: No one has taught me good manners. I saw the ugliness of ignorance and I put it aside. (Bihar-al-anwar/ vol 14/ pg 326/ hadith 44) Jesus (as) prepared some food for the Apostles. When they were done eating, he himself washed their hands. They said: oh spirit of God, it was our duty to wash your hands. Jesus (as) said: This I did so that you treat your disciples in the very same way. (Bihar-al-anwar/ vol 14/ pg 327/ hadith 42) Jesus (as) said: When a mule is left unridden, unworked and unloaded for a long time, its nature will change and will become bad tempered. Hearts are just the same, when they are not softened by the remembrance of death followed by the perseverance of worship, they will become rough and hardened. (Bihar-al-anwar/ vol 14/ pg 309/ hadith 17) God revealed to Jesus (as) : When I grant you a blessing, embrace it with humility so that I may complete it for you. (Bihar-al-anwar/ vol 14/ pg 328/ hadith 56) Jesus (as) told his disciples: Increase your actions in that which the fire does not consume. They then asked: And what is that? Jesus (as) replied: Good deeds. (Bihar-al-anwar/ vol 14/ pg 330/ hadith 65) Imam Sadiq (as) said: Jesus the son of Mary (as) said: One who lies much loses his worth. (Bihar-al-anwar/ vol 14/ pg 330/ hadith 69) Jesus (as) said: Do not take the world as a lord, for it will take you as a slave. (Bihar-al-anwar/ vol 14/ pg 327/ hadith 47) Jesus (as) said: The body of one who grieves too much will surely become ill. (al-Amali by Saduq/ pg 636/ hadith 853) Jesus (as) said: My servants are my two hands, my horse are my two legs,my bed is the hard earth, and my pillow is a rock. My source of heat in the winter is the light of the sun. I pass my nights while I don't have anything, I rise in the morning while I do not have anything. However, there is no one on the face of this earth that is richer than I am. (Bihar-al-anwar/ vol 14/ pg 239/ hadith 17) Jesus (as) said: The most wretched of people is he who is well-known for his knowledge and not for his actions. (Bihar-al-anwar/ vol 2/ pg 52/ hadith 19) Among the teachings of Christ (as) is the following: Blessed are you if when envied,cursed,backbitten and slandered, you are filled with delight. For verily your reward will become abundant in the heavens. (Tuhaf-al-uqul / page 501) Jesus (as) addressed a man saying: What is your profession? He said: I have taken up deep worship. Jesus asked : Then who provides your livelihood? He said: My brother does. Then Jesus said to him: Then your brother is a greater servant of God than you. (Tanbih-al-khawatir/volume 1/ page 65.) Imam Sadiq (as) said: Jesus the son of Mary said: I gave medicine to the sick and cured them by God's will. I gave sight to the blind and healed the leaper by Gods will. I tended to the dead and gave them life by God's will. I tended to the fool but I was unable to correct him. Jesus was then asked: Oh spirit of God! Who is a fool? Jesus replied: One who is enamoured with himself and his own ideas, who seas only himself in possession of every virtue, and who considers only himself as right and no one else. Such a person as this is a fool to whose cure there is no road. (Bihar-al-anwar/ vol 14/ pg 324)

SalamAlaykum Brothers and sisters. I hope you are all well in shaa Allah. Basically I had a question regarding this Ayat. It's 4:163 Surah An-Nisa, Verse 163: إِنَّا أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ كَمَا أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَىٰ نُوحٍ وَالنَّبِيِّينَ مِن بَعْدِهِ وَأَوْحَيْنَا إِلَىٰ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَإِسْمَاعِيلَ وَإِسْحَاقَ وَيَعْقُوبَ وَالْأَسْبَاطِ وَعِيسَىٰ وَأَيُّوبَ وَيُونُسَ وَهَارُونَ وَسُلَيْمَانَ وَآتَيْنَا دَاوُودَ زَبُورًا Surely We have revealed to you as We revealed to Nuh, and the prophets after him, and We revealed to Ibrahim and Ismail and Ishaq and Yaqoub and the tribes, and Isa and Ayub and Yunus and Haroun and Sulaiman and We gave to Dawood Zabuur (English - Shakir) via iQuran --------____________======___________ Why are the Prophets in such a order in this Ayat. I mean Noah Abraham Isaac Ishmael and Jacob make sense because of the Genealogy but the rest of those Prophets in the Ayat I have no clue. Has any of you come across this Ayat and maybe asked the same Question. Why being in such a Order. And for those who will say that it isn't important etc. I will reply to say that there is always a reason why Allah reveales the Ayat in a specific way. I wanna know in shaa Allah. Cant wait for the replies!!!

Salam, Did Isa (as) get married?

Bismillahi Rahmani Rahim Salam Aleykum, What would you do if Imam Mahdi is not shia? Will you believe and help him? If he has all the characteristics, sunnahs and struggles that Ahlul Bayt (as) mentioned, that both sunni and shia mentioned, trials, justice, Allah's Messenger's (saaws) Sunna and character, piety, knowledge, guidance and help of Allah , many Signs from Allah that he is the one, and everything about him shows you that he is Imam Mahdi, but he is not shia, will you accept him although it contradicts shia views of Imam Mahdi? What if Imam Mahdi is not arab but his origin is arabic? What if he is not born in Madina but Allah will show him from Madina? If he is sunni, but loves the Ahlul Bayt (as) like no other person, and struggles and fights for them while the rest are hesitating, and he struggles and fights for Allah's Messenger (saaws), will you accept him? If he loves the Sahaba (ra), and understands them better than anyone else, he knows what really happened and explains and proves that they were the best of people on earth after the Prophets (as), and as for Muawiya, he rejects him as Sahaba but leaves that matter to Allah's Hands to Judge and points out the errors that Muawiya made but warns to not curse him nor any Sahaba will you still accept him? He hates yazid and defends Hussein (as), when he hears about Hussein (as) his eyes flow with tears and his heart beats fast, but he also loves the Sahaba (ra) and his love for them is very great, will you still refuse him? He defends the shia in whatever they are right, and he even defends them against sunnis, still he loves both and wants them united, so he fights for both of them and teaches them mercy. He loves shia as brothers, LOVES IRAN and its people, supports them in their struggle against the enemies of Allah, he counts shia in Iran and Sayed Nasrallah as best among the best of the Ummah, but he explains shia that some of what they believe is not true and Islamic, but actually a corruption by the zionist crusade, and proves them that Sunni is the correct creed, will you still refuse him just because of what you have been taught all these years? If Imam Mahdi shows you that you have misunderstood the hadith about him from Ahlul Bayt (as), and that a lot of it has been added into your group, will you still refuse him even after that? I need to know whether you are ready to accept Imam Mahdi and fight for Allah with your life, heart and wealth, are you ready to accept him for the sake of Allah if he is not Shia? Ask yourself very well and honestly these questions and answer them, if you answer with "no" in all the questions, then ask yourself whether you are really sincere to Allah after all, whether you follow Allah's Qur'an, or you follow whatever tradition and parents follow. The jews refused Allah's Messenger Muhammad (saaws) because of their envy and pride against arabs, they did not accept him because of his being arab, though he had all the Signs that he is the one propheciesed in their books. That made them fall into worse sins that lead them to all the corruption and injustice they do today. So don't fall into the same trap! If you are not ready, then Shia will suffer trials until they are ready to accept him, even if he is not Shia, and only then Allah inshAllah will reveal him. Allah has Mercy for you, you still believe in His tawhid and you have not fallen to what jews have fallen to when Isa (as) and Muhammad (saaws) came. Therefore, build your Iman and relationship with Allah first, if you have built the Iman and are ready to die for Allah, then you will be ready for Imam Mahdi inshAllah even if he is not shia, Allah Azza wa Jal will enable you to accept him if you have Iman. If you are not ready, then there is much work to be done, work on it inshAllah my brothers and sisters because it will save you from being astray when the time comes, and the Iman will inshAllah earn you a place with Allah Azza wa Jall in Janna and save you from Jahannam. That time will be a very very very hard time, lots of trials will occur that you haven't even thought of, most of the world will be devastated and what will remain will be only few lands, it will be Allah's Help during a nuclear war, meaning when Imam Mahdi comes there will be already a world war which will increase and head towards Malhama. That will then be a huge battle between truth and falsehood, more precisely a battle between the army of Allah vs shaytan and his army, and I mean this literally. The dajjal's army is shaytan's army. Don't worry about the technology and guns, Allah Azza wa Jall already has Plans against that, built Tawakkul in Allah, Allah Azza wa Jal is the Protector. All tyrants and injustice will be broken down, thereafter comes a beautiful rain that will make earth beautiful similar to Paradise, this will be Allah's Mercy before he gives the believers the real Paradise. The earth will be destroyed and remade only after Muslims get Victory worldwide, this fight will not be for anything else except Allah's Haq and Justice. Therefore, Muslims, shia and sunni need a very strong foundation of Tawhid and Yaqin Certainty in Allah Azza wa Jal in their heart, because they will have to struggle like no other people in history, lots of time they will feel like giving up, this is why you must build your Iman in Allah Azza wa Jal, so that nothing can break you, NOTHING. Don't ask for Allah Azza wa Jal to hasten Imam Mahdi's arrival, until you are ready for it. Because when he comes, he is going to put you into work, from children to old, he will give you lots of different directions and teach you how to focus on Allah Azza wa Jal in everything you do, meaning whatever you do will be ONLY for Allah and His Love for you. Allah is number one, everything comes second, his army will be only with this type of men and women. You need to be ready for that work spiritually, mentally and physically, you will need to be educated a lot in Islam and other subjects, because you will do Da'wah while struggling in Allah's Way. Get to work inshAllah, the time is near inshAllah, but get to work and start being merciful to each other in the Ummah, start treating Sunnis as brothers except the extremist fools, but work on unity with Sunni, you will really need it! Whether the Imam is among us or not, our purpose is to serve and worship Allah, that is what matters, so start building Tawhid and Yaqin in Allah Azza wa Jal with knowledge, begin with the Qur'an, then science, know politics, and understand history, focus on fixing your Nafs, make a LOT of Zikr and memorise the Qur'an, learn a lot about spirituality from the Ahlul Bayt (as) especially Ali (as), make him (as) your role model only after Allah's Messenger (saaws); put on top Allah's Messenger (saaws), Shia do not know him almost at all, make more lectures about the Messenger (saaws), and learn how to be like him; never curse (ra) the Sahaba since you have no clue who they really were, their bodies were full of blood to defend Allah's Qur'an and His Messenger (saaws), nobody can dare to insult and slander them, Allah Azza wa Jal your Lord commands Muslims in the Qur'an to not slander each other so fear Allah Al Jabbar your Creator. Learn to take it easy on each other and mankind, be harsh only against Allah's Azza wa Jal enemies, serve Allah Azza wa Jal and help mankind, because a lot of them need Da'wa and will be Muslims especially after the major trials begin, your Da'wah will help them inshAllah. Talk to mankind and new Muslims only about Allah Azza wa Jal, the proofs of Islam and the Qur'an, leave the shia sunni issues aside especially when you yourself do not comprehend what really the issue is - a political one made by zionist jews to cause hatred amongst Muslims. Think about what I said, and do follow my advice seriously, inshAllah you will understand, may Allah Azza wa Jal help and strengthen you for Imam Mahdi, Amin Allah. Salam aleykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu

So here I have a kind of question on the most popular criticism used bu Sunni/Wahabbis against shias. This is what I am talking about : http://www.sunni-news.net/en/articles.aspx?article_no=27879 Summary:Sunnis say that the beliefs of christians and shias are same as they take their prests/imams as gods other than Allah. Like in the case of Ali and Jesus, Christians believe that Jesus was a God but so week to die on a cross, while shias believe that Ali (a.s) is on higher rank than Prophet Muhammad and strong like God but so week to protect Islam after Prophet Muhammad and had to accept all kinds of accusations against him. (ASTAGFIRULLAH) Question : Now my question is that how can we prove them wrong ? Are we really saying that Ali has attributes of God ?

All four Gospels record Jesus as saying, "Blessed are the peace-makers; they will be called sons of God." Bible says that God is not man ‘God is not a man’ (Numbers 23:19) ‘For I am God, and not man’ (Hosea 11:9) Jesus is called a man many times in the Bible ‘a man who has told you the truth’ (John 8:40) ‘Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know.’ (Acts 2:22) ‘He will judge the world in righteousness through a man whom He has appointed’ (Acts 17:31) ‘the man Christ Jesus’ (Tim. 2:5) The Bible says that God is not a son of man ‘God is not a man nor a son of man’ (Numbers 23:19) The Bible often calls Jesus ‘a son of man’ or ‘the son of man.’ ‘so will the son of man be’ (Matthew 12:40) ‘For the son of man is going to come’ (Matthew 16:27) ‘until they see the son of man coming in His kingdom.’ (Matthew 28) ‘But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority’ (Mark 2:10) ‘because he is the son of man’ (John 5:27) In the Hebrew scriptures, the ‘son of man’ is also used many times speaking of people (Job 25:6; Psalm 80:17; 144:3; Ezekiel 2:1; 2:3; 2:6-8; 3:1-3).

Straight forward question: What does one think of the possibility that the words and verses of the Bibles may not have actually been changed or corrupted-- but the way it was interpreted and broken down in explanation by forefathers during that time was corrupt? The majority Shia belief (including that of Allama Tabatabai) says that it was the apostle Paul who was the first to bring in the doctrine of the Trinity and the Atonement of Christ, ones that aren't quite explicitly mentioned in the NT bible ( ignoring the KJV version, that already has it's own controversial issues in the christian population in general) except for the possible verses that could have been interpreted to show this ideology. Are there references to prominent Shia scholars who definitely believe that the words of the Bible aren't the same as they are right now from before (meaning they were changed)? Salam

Mahdi will rule like Solomon and Dhul Qarnayn. why should not we ask Jesus (as) himself about Mahdi (as) !? since the majority of humanity is Christian. in my view point Jesus will return to repeat what humanity has forgotten and what humanity has hidden among the altered Gospels. Matthew 24:24-27 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and show great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. 25 Lo, I have told you beforehand. 26 So, if they say to you, `Lo, he is in the wilderness,' do not go out; if they say, `Lo, he is in the inner rooms,' do not believe it. 27 For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of man. 28 Wherever the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together. Matthew 24:30 then will appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory; Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only. 37 As were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of man. 38 For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, 39 and they did not know until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of man. 40 Then two men will be in the field; one is taken and one is left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill; one is taken and one is left. 42 Watch therefore, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming Matthew 24:43 43 But know this, that if the householder had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have watched and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 Therefore you also must be ready; for the Son of man is coming at an hour you do not expect. 45 "Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom his master has set over his household, to give them their food at the proper time? 46 Blessed is that servant whom his master when he comes will find so doing. 47 Truly, I say to you, he will set him over all his possessions. 48 But if that wicked servant says to himself, `My master is delayed,' 49 and begins to beat his fellow servants, and eats and drinks with the drunken, 50 the master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know, 51 and will punish him, and put him with the hypocrites; there men will weep and gnash their teeth. Luke 12:35 Let your loins be girded and your lamps burning, 36 and be like men who are waiting for their master to come home from the marriage feast, so that they may open to him at once when he comes and knocks. 37 Blessed are those servants whom the master finds awake when he comes; truly, I say to you, he will gird himself and have them sit at table, and he will come and serve them. 38 If he comes in the second watch, or in the third, and finds them so, blessed are those servants! 39 But know this, that if the householder had known at what hour the thief was coming, he would not have left his house to be broken into. 40 You also must be ready; for the Son of man is coming at an unexpected hour." What are they hiding !? Jesus (as) says Mahdi (as) is like ark of Noah : But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only. 37 As were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of man. 38 For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, 39 and they did not know until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of man. 40 Then two men will be in the field; one is taken and one is left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill; one is taken and one is left. 42 Watch therefore, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming ark of Noah ! Son of Man !! Ahlul Bait !!! Mahdi !!!! prophet of Islam pbuh said : أهل بيتي فيكم كسفينة نوح عليه السلام في قومه ، من دخلها نجا ، ومن تخلف عنها هلك my Ahlul Bait is like the ark of Noah. whoever enters it get saved and whoever broaches it, he would get perished. http://library.islamweb.net/newlibrary/display_book.php?bk_no=85&ID=&idfrom=5296&idto=5391&bookid=85&startno=68 Christians should answer why they are not ready, prepared like a good servant for their master, Son of Man, son of the most perfect Man (prophet of Islam pbuh), the second Muhammad, Mahdi !?

In the Quran we have verses like Quran 5:46 SAHIH INTERNATIONAL And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel, in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous. and others like, which show us that Allah (swt) sent Jesus a scripture and holy book of God inspired by Him. Now we have the belief that a book truly inspired by God can never be altered or played with. This is the very reason we say that the Quran is a perfect and clean book because It is the revelation of Allah (swt), which came to the Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) by Angel Gabriel. We know that the Prophet was given the knowledge of the Quran in it's entirety,(sub-question: was the Quran sent down physically as a copy?), and the Prophet slowly began to speak verse after verse to the people at specific times in specific amounts ( 1 or more verses ). At this point, we had many people taking the Quranic words, writing them down, and compiling it. This is where we get sunni narrations of Uthman having these Quran compilations and that whole situation, as well as other scribes who wrote the Quranic words and compiled them. ( non-muslims seem to use this as a tactic to say how the versions of the Quran from the beginning were always different) ---- this part needs correcting as I don`t fully know if this is how we think the compilation of the Quran is believed to be like. If I am correct, the Shia belief is that from apparent narrations, thirteen (or around that) days after the death of the Prophet, Imam Ali (as) stayed entirely indoors, and compiled the same exact Quran we have until this day from beginning to end. More clarification later... _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Now when it comes to Jesus Christ (as) and his Injeel (Gospel), Islam says that , just like the Prophet, the Gospel came from Allah towards Jesus Christ (as) through Angel Gabriel as well. Jesus also told the people of the revelation the same way and spoke of verses from the Gospel Allah (swt) sent down to him (right?). My main questions are: 1. What is the differences between the way Jesus (pbuh) obtained the revelation of God and the Holy Book, and the way Muhammed (pbuh) obtained revelation of God and the Holy Book? 2. What is the differences in the way they were preserved? Better yet, are the books in the NT Bible words that came from God or are they personal entries from the apostles who wrote them? 3. Did Jesus know they were going to create the NT Bible after him? not the most important question in here but curious if there was any mention of Jesus saying that he wanted this after him. 4. What happened with the Injeel of Jesus (pbuh)? Was it a physical copy like the Quran or was it a full revelation that was in the mind of Jesus (pbuh) which was not revealed as a book? NOTE: I know I have probably been terribly inaccurate with somethings I brought up so clarification and corrections are needed. EDIT: I ask because we know that a book truly inspired by Allah can never be altered and corrupted, so I am trying to learn how the Bible, or even the Torah were revealed and what happened to them. I heard narrations like the inspired books of God (Psalms of David, Torah, Bible) are all in possession of the awaited Imam (af), and will be revealed to us in the end.

I was watching Sayed Ammar's recent lectures and he brought up an interesting point about the prophecy of Muhammed in the OT and NT. To our fellow christian members I was wondering if you guys can break down these bible verses to me: Deuteronomy 18:18 18I will raise up a prophet from among their countrymen like you, and I will put My words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him. 19 He uses this verse in the bible to show how Moses was actually, by his wording, mentioning the Prophet Muhammed (as) in this verse ( I believe that christians use this to say Moses was actually mentioning Jesus Christ here). What do you guys think? then he uses this verse, the interesting part Luke 7:28 28I tell you, among those born of women there is no one greater than John, yet even the least in the kingdom of God is greater than he.” He uses this by saying that-- This was Jesus talking about John the Baptist ( prophet Yahya (as) ) and Jesus explicitly says that there is no greater man then john, however in Matthew 3:11-12, John says 11“As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. 12“His winnowing fork is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clear His threshing floor; and He will gather His wheat into the barn, but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.” Who is John referring to? The problem is , is that John can't be referring to Jesus because Jesus already confirmed the presence of John with Luke 7:28, and not only that but giving him the greatest compliment, so John could have just used word's like ' Lord' or 'Jesus' or even' Son of Man' or 'Son of God' if he was referring to Jesus, but he kept it at future tense, where Jesus was already present. Who is John referring to here? John seems to revere this man to the point where he uses an analogy of not being able to touch the sandals of this man to show how great his status is.

Quick question: I was wondering in all christian, catholic, and islamic idealogy-- were the apostles of Prophet Jesus (pbuh) infallible? I've noticed one thing- In christianity, they do not believe in saints or the apostles as saints, which means they are not infallible. Therefore, would they not be subject to subjective and/or accidental human error? ( and also subject to sin ) In catholicism, they believe in saints so therefore I think it holds for their belief to say that the apostles words were correct as a saint is someone who is infallible, and someone who is infallible should have the knowledge of not committing subjective error, as an infallible should not make error at all. ( correct me if im wrong-- i do not know if catholics even belief in the infallibility of saints, so my question still stands anyway - could they have been or were they?

Jesus the Muslim Prophet: History Speaks of a Human Messiah Not a Divine The book is a detailed comparative study of the nature of Jesus according to the Qur’an and the New Testament and other Christian sources. Relevant concepts are also examined in the Old Testament and other Jewish sources, as well as historical sources. The book avoids polemics, focusing on analysing the relevant texts. complete text: http://www.louayfatoohi.com/2015/12/news/my-book-jesus-the-muslim-prophet-free-online/

In Christianity, Jesus has many titles here are a few examples: (Lamb of God)(King of the Jews)(lion of the tribe of Judah) and (God the Son). I know that the Quran denies that God has a son. In Islam, I've read that Jesus is called the Slave of Allah. The Jews, of course reject Jesus as a prophet or messiah. Jesus described himself in the Christian Gospel as "the Son of Man". This is different than claiming to be the son of God. In the Quran, their are only a few instances were Jesus is quoted speaking. Their is one event in the Quran where Jesus speaks when he was just a little baby boy, claiming to be a prophet. I've also read that Muslims believe that their will be a second coming of Jesus at the end of the world. In the Christian Gospel, Jesus was confronted by the Jewish religious authority, when the Jews asked him if he was the Son of the Blessed One, Jesus replied "I Am". He went on saying "And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One coming on the clouds of heaven." - Mark 14:62

I have heard that the Prophet Muhammad had a night journey to Jerusalem. Where he met Jesus, Abraham, Moses, and John the Baptist and led them in prayer. How did the prophet Muhammad know that he was in Jerusalem? And, also how did he know who these other prophets were? Did he ask them their names, or did they address themselves?

Hello, I am Joe I have read up a bit on Islam. I know that Islam is the second largest religion on earth, and that it is growing at a faster rate than Christianity at this point in time. From everything I have read Islam claims a "mysterious" raising up of Jesus to God in Heaven without Jesus having been killed on the cross. And, that someone else was made to have the appearance of Jesus. Most often I have read that Muslims believe that Judas, the betrayer of Jesus was the person Crucified. I have read much of the Quran, and nowhere does it say this is what happened. I am of the belief that when Allah said that Jesus was not killed or crucified, Allah was simply saying that "the Jews" did not kill or crucify Jesus. But, that it was made to appear that they did. When in reality it was the Romans that killed Jesus, but it appeared that the Jews were responsible when they were not, Even though the Jews rejected Jesus as the Messiah.

Salams to all, I guess this is a question im hoping Christians on the forum will be able to help me with, but anyones help would be welcome. In the statement of the Council of Chalcedon it says that Jesus(as) was/is: 'perfect in manhood; truly God and truly man, of a reasonable [rational] soul and body... begotten before all ages of the Father according to the Godhead,' My question is: isnt that which distinguishes Jesus as a person of the Trinity (his being uncreated) the very thing that disqualifies him from being fully human? The word 'man' points to a certain kind of being does it not? In the Abrahamic religions 'man' is a created being by definition (as established in genesis) and so is his soul (Jeremiah 38:16), so in what way can the use of the word 'man' be said to be appropriate if the established criteria for what that word points towards is not being met?

http://trinities.org/blog/podcast-131-10-apologists-mistakes-trinity/ ^part 1 by a Christian Philosopher

In the Name of God A COMMON CALL FOR THE SAVIOUR Once I was reading a Christian theological book, written by one of the evangelists, surprisingly, I found the last chapter, dedicated to the doctrine of the future, to be very interesting. To me as a Shi’ite Muslim, whose way of thinking of Christianity was a religion subject to distortion throughout the history, it was really amazing to come up with great similarity between Shi’ite and Christianity as for the idea of the eschatology. Reading the genuine materials written by scholars whose concern is to speak of the eschatology, one is justified to say that they are resemblance in all aspects; principles, details, and the way that their scholars both Shi’ite and Christian, argue to articulate the various topics pertain to the study of “the last things”. However, what both Shi’ite and Christian followers desire to happen does not meet the way of their life, their daily behaviors, and their understanding of reappearance of their redeemer. Clearly, Shi’ite and Christian scholars alike have not pondered the similarities fall in various parts of the doctrine of future in accordance with their sacred scriptures. In both religions we see explicit declarations conveying large-scale understanding of the conditions world will experience before the coming of the promised man of God. For instance; The world would be full of injustice, tyranny and lies in wickedness. Christianity: “We know that we are from God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one. 1 John 5:19” Islam: He will fill out the earth with peace and justice as it will have been full of injustice and tyranny.[1] Surly, the coming of Him will happen. Christianity : He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus! Revelation 22:20 Islam: The Prophet Muhammad said, Even if the entire duration of the world’s existence has already been exhausted and only one day is left before Doomsday, Allah will expand that day to such length of time as to accommodate the kingdom of a person from my Ahlul-Bayt who will be called by my name.[2] Similar signs in Heavens precede His coming. Christianity :The sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven Matthew 24:29 Islam: Verily, the sun eclipses in the middle of Ramadan and the moon darken at the end of it before the advent of Mahdi.[3] In addition to above mentioned points, one might add the issue of predicting specified time for his coming that has to be considered wrong with regard to the teachings of both religions[4],[5]. Apart from all these similarities found in religious texts, the common trait both Shi’ite and Christian preachers seem to share is to promote their followers to long eagerly for his return or coming. The reason behind such encouragements is to keep the followers motivated in obedience to him up until the very moment of his coming. Moreover, the more believers are engaged in servitude of God, the less they will be caught up in enjoying sinful desires and actions and consequently they are more likely to experience the intimate and deep fellowship with God. As a matter of fact the reappearance of Imam Mahdi or Prophet Jesus requires some preliminaries in which to pave the ground for them to reign on the earth[6] which are yet not fulfilled. If they are to come and bring the righteousness and justice and establish the kingdom of God on earth, there have to be such loyal followers ready to undertake difficulties required for uprising against unbelievers. Pious believers who are fed up with this world, the ones who experienced vital need for coming of the man of God have to exist to stand firm with Imam Mahdi and Prophet Jesus to overcome all unrighteous and evil governments. So that, the more believers look for providing such preliminaries the more his reappearance will be hastened. One of the crucial requirements for the advent of Imam Mahdi or the return of Christ to occur is to experience a real need for a savior, a real need for deliverance from lust, redemption from captivity and spiritual bondage. As long as human beings are entangled in sins, lies, and lust and they are neglected of this relentless hidden ignorance that drives them live without any feeling of deficiency Imam Mahdi will never come. Back to what we have already cited from religious corpus, we see that the world before their coming is experiencing the utmost level of injustice, immorality, sins etc. Hence, only when people reach this awareness that their urgent need which precede every other material stuffs is the need for redemption we could hope the savior, whether Imam Mahdi, Prophet Jesus or they both together, to come and redeem the world. To practice an eager longing for the savior, believers, besides taking care of their daily deeds to keep them in deep fellowship whit the savior, have to pray for his coming since this seemingly simple behavior demonstrates the degree to which they long for him. It is narrated through the Islamic traditions that the people of ancient Egypt –Bani Israel- were promised of a savior that would put an end to wretchedness and misery they suffer from under the government of Pharaoh. They decided to pray to God and cry for 40 mornings. All of the believers in the community attended this spiritual gathering. After the 40th morning God inspired them that, “the time you were supposed to long for your savior has been hastened 170 years, and Moses is coming.” Imam Sadeq, peace be upon him, has quoted this story warning the Shia believers that such appeals to God, since it is a real measure of our vital need, might hasten the coming of Imam Mahdi.[7] References: Ibn Abi Zaynab, Mohammad b. Ibrahim, al-Ghaybah lil'Nu`mani, 970, Sadouq Press, Tehran, 1976. Majlisi, Mohammad Baqer b. Mohammad Taqi, 1698, Bihar al-Anwar( Tibb( a) Bayrout), Beirut, 1982, Dar Ihya' al-Turath al-Arabi Kulayni, Mohammad b. Ya`qoub b. Is-ha, 940, al-Kafi, Tehran, 1986, Dar al-Kutub al-Islamiyyah Irbali, Ali b. Isa, 1292, Kashf al-Ghummah fi Ma`rifah al-A'immah, Bani Hashemi, 1961. [1] - al-kafi, Vol1,P335 [2] - al-Ghaybah lil'Nu`mani, P23 [3] - al-Ghaybah lil'Nu`mani, P271 [4] - Imam Sadeq, all predictors[ about the time of his coming] do lie. al-Kafi, Vol 1, P368. [5] - Matthew 24:44: Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect. [6] - Kashf al-Ghummah fi Ma`rifah al-A'immah, Vol2, P477 : the people from East will come and pave the ground for Mahdi reign. Mark 1:15 : and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.” [7] - Bihar al-Anwar, Vol 13, P140