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Read the Reddit comments to understand what the thread was about, since the post has since been deleted. ....................................................................................... I'm so tired of the utterly nonsensical and VERY COMMON Sunni notion of 'I am happy to seek unity with Shias as long as they don't curse/insult/abuse any Sahaba, and especially NOT Aisha, Abu Bakr, Omar, Uthman. Firstly, any Shia claim regarding the sahabi that happens to go against the Sunni narrative is considered insulting. Secondly, and more importantly, is that the same notion is true for Shias... You are insulting the Ahlul Bayt by not accepting them as divinely appointed leaders of Allah, and infallible individuals, and perfect preservers of the religion of Islam, and a high means of seeking closeness to Allah (intercession). Not only are you insulting revered Shia figures by not following them, you are commiting MAJOR shirk by giving a false attribute to Allah, by saying that Allah has not always appointed an infallible leader on this Earth, and that there currently isn't an infallible leader. Furthermore, the real kicker is that plenty of revered Shia figures, such as Abu Talib (رضي الله عنه), are considered kuffar by Sunnis. Is this not insulting? So, how can we Shias unite with Sunnis based on their own fallacious logic? Shias are the minority, and Sunnis are the majority. It makes Sunnis think that they are Orthodox and that they have to unite with Heterodox for political and humanitarian reasons, and that Shias must make [ridiculous] compromises. Shias are far more receptive to the unity message, because we actually understand Sunni Islam, and can see the commonalities. We understand that we can't make Sunnis compromise on their beliefs. Simply by being the minority within Islam, by nature we Shias already understand Sunni beliefs, whereas Sunnis have a basic strawman understanding of Shia beliefs... which is natural, considering that they are the majority. Anyways, the point of my post is the following: Let's compile a list of revered Shia figures that are not given their proper status by Sunnis, according to Shia Islam... with an explanation given. ...This is to show that we Shias and Sunnis can unite, but we cannot unite upon revered figures and imamah. ...This will also serve as a way of showing Sunnis that this argument of theirs makes no sense. Another important question we may ask is "What about commonly revered figures like Imam Ali (عليه السلام) who is given different status in both sects? Can we unite upon Imam Ali (عليه السلام)?" ...a common Sunni criticism of political unity is that "Ali ibn Abi Talib (رضي الله عنه) is given an improper status in Shia religion because they call upon him... tawassul (intercession) of the 'dead' is Shirk! So there is absolutely no room for unity since we can't even agree on the status of the sahabi" [yes, I am aware that the Imams (عليه السلام) are still alive, but Sunnis don't believe this...] I would love to hear your thoughts. Wassalam. JazakAllah Khair. Fi sabilillah.
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Bismillah, We Twelver Shias commonly claim that the Takfiri/Salafi/Wahhabi propagandists are funded by the Saudis and their petro dollars. Do we have any proof of this? Thanks. JazakAllah Khair.
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I recently became convinced of Twelver Shia Islam but have been up to this point following the Hanafi madhab. Although I have been able to find many great books to learn more about Shia history, philosophy, theology, etc., it is hard to know where to begin in regards to changing madhab. I do not know any Shia personally and I do not live near a Shia mosque. One thing I really do not want to do is change in an uncoordinated way and be practising some kind of Hanafi-Jafari hybrid which is acceptable to no scholar of any perspective ever! Maybe this is too vague. To be more specific, what should I change first? My opinion would be my wudu and salat as it is to be performed daily. Any other views? If not, what next? Also I can find a few online resources on how to pray in the Jafari way but is there any online resources you recommend for this and other things? Thanks so much in advance! I am so happy to have found Shia Islam. Jazakallah khair.
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I have learned that there are significant differences between the videos I have seen on Shi'a salah as compared to what I have been practicing as a Sunni, following the Shafi'i Madhab. These differences include: combining prayers, prostrating on a Turbah (prayer stone), not saying Ameen after al-Fatiha, the recitation upon standing from Jalsa, different words in Tahhajud, saying SubhanAllah, Al hamdu lillah, la ilaha illAllah and Allahu Akbar 3X in 3rd and 4th rakats instead of al-Fatiha, saying salam once straight ahead instead of to right then left, and 3X Allahu Akbar to end salah. I have similarly recognized differences between the 4 Sunni Madhabs and chose the Shafi'i as it seemed to me the most authentic as being based on Hadith collections.. The questions I have are, "What is the basis for the Shi'a way of offering salah and why is it significantly different?" Is it based on Shi'a collections of hadith or passed down by word of mouth and demonstration? Should we not follow the way that Prophet Muhammad (saaws) prayed as closely as humanly possible?
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Sallam everyone, I'm new to Shia Fiqh, My Sunni friends have easy to follow syllabus for fiqh books they study in various schools. In indo/Paki they have the darsi nazami syllabus that outlines what students will study over a period of years. Is there anything similar from the shia tradition, does anyone know what syllabus they follow in Qoum, or other parts of the world ? Anyone know of any good basics books on the jafari madhab, fiqh of sallah and 5 pillars?
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Assalamu'alaikum! Dear members, as you can see this is my first post on this forum. I have come here because, being a Sunni Muslim, I was a bit troubled by the variation in the Sehr/Iftar timings of Hanafi and Jafari schools of thoughts (these are the two main madhabs followed in my country). There was a consistent variation of 10 minutes between them. The Shias always closed their Sehri 10 minutes prior to the Sunnis and began their Iftar 10 minutes after them. Why is that? What is the jurisprudence behind this? Jazak'Allah
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(bismillah) Salam, I have a question regarding the schism that occurred at the death of Imam as-Sadiq(as). As far as I know, Imam as-Sadiq had initially intended his eldest son, Imam Ismail, to be the Imam after him. But since Imam Ismail passed away before his blessed father, Imam Sadiq appointed his younger son, Imam Musa Kazim, as his successor. Two points of inquiry: 1)Since only someone infallible can be the Imam of the time, does that mean that originally Imam Ismail was also infallible? 2)Since we know Imam Musa Kazim(as) was infallible, could it be possible that Imam Sadiq had 2 infallible sons, the same way Imam Ali(as) had 2 infallible sons? ws.
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