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  1. Assalamu Alaykum everyone, recently I have been having problems comprehending the concept of Istighatha and invoking those saintly entities other than Allah. I have a few questions, 1. Are the imams (عليه السلام) available 24/7, as in, are they omnipresent and always hear the duaas we make to them? 2. If they can hear our duaas, then what if millions supplicate to them at once? Do they hear them all at the same time? 3. Is it not a contradiction that if the imams (عليه السلام) hear millions all at once? Owing to my limited understanding, I believe this is an attribute of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). That's all for now, Salam.
  2. بسم الله و له الحمد السلام عليكم و رحمة الله I would like to have a discussion concerning the verse: We did not send any apostle but to be obeyed by Allah’s leave. Had they, when they wronged themselves, come to you and pleaded to Allah for forgiveness, and the Apostle had pleaded for them [to Allah]for forgiveness, they would have surely found Allah all-clement, all-merciful. (4:64) This is arguably to most used verse from the Qur'an both by scholars and laymen to prove not only the validity of calling on other than Allah for one's needs, but the recommendation of it. In fact it is considered to be such a strong proof that when it is produced, the one bringing it forth often sees the discussion as being over. Here is an example of one of the eminent jurists of our era confirming that this is his understanding of the verse, from the website of the marja' sayed Muhammad Sa'id al-Hakeem: Q: Are there any authentic narration, Duas or Ziyarats in Shia books that direct us to ask the Ahlulbait (peace be upon them) directly for sustenance, children, and the like? A: Seeking intercession of the Prophet and the Ahlulbait (peace be upon them) and asking them does not require an extra proof other than what is mentioned in the Holy Book. The following verse is sufficient to prove it, when Almighty Allah said: “And if, when they had wronged themselves, they had but come unto thee and asked forgiveness of Allah, and asked forgiveness of the messenger, they would have found Allah Forgiving, Merciful” (4:64). http://english.alhakeem.com/pages/quesans/listgroup.php?AllGroup My question is, apart from personal interpretation, how do people come to understand this verse in this way? Does it make linguistical sense? Was this the reason for its revelation? Did the Imams, peace be upon them explain it in this way? Do the preceding and succeeding verses lend weight to this interpretation? I have done a little research into this verse today, this is what I have found. * All corrections welcome Concerning the reason for the revelation of this verse, shaykh al-Tusi narrates this story: وذكر الحسن في هذه الآية: أن اثني عشر رجلا من المنافقين اجتمعوا على أمر من النفاق وائتمروا به فيما بينهم، فأخبره الله بذلك، وقد دخلوا على رسول الله، فقال رسول الله: إن اثني عشر رجلا من المنافقين اجتمعوا على أمر من النفاق، وائتمروا به فيما بينهم، فليقم أولئك فليستغفروا ربهم، وليعترفوا بذنوبهم حتى اشفع لهم. فلم يقم أحد. فقال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله: ألا تقومون؟مرارا -. ثم قال: قم يا فلان وأنت يا فلان، فقالوا يا رسول الله نحن نستغفر الله ونتوب إليه، فاشفع لنا. قال الآن أنا كنت في أول أمركم أطيب نفسا بالشفاعة، وكان الله تعالى أسرع إلى الإجابة أخرجوا عني، فاخرجوا عنه حتى لم يرهم And with regards to this verse, al-Hasan mentioned that twelve men from among the hypocrites gathered together (to undertake) an act of hypocrisy and conspired together in that regard. So Allah informed him (the Prophet) about that, and after they had entered upon the messenger of Allah, he said to them that twelve men from among the hypocrites gathered together to commit and act of hypocrisy, and conspired together in that regard. So verily those people should stand and seek forgiveness from their Lord and recognise their sins so that I may intercede for them. However none stood up, so the messenger of Allah, peace be upon him and his family said: Will you not stand? And he repeated it. Then he said stand O so and so and you O so and so. They said: O messenger of Allah, indeed we seek forgiveness from Allah and repent unto Him, so intercede for us. He said, today I was the target of this act of yours, however I would gladly intercede for you (?) and Allah, Most High is swift in replying, leave me. So they left him until he could no longer see them. In al-Kafi, shaykh al-Kulayni narrates: على بن ابراهيم عن ابيه عن محمد بن اسمعيل وغيره عن منصور بن يونس عن ابن اذينة عن عبدالله النجاشى قال، سمعت ابا عبدالله (عليه السلام) يقول: في قول الله عزوجل، (اولئك الذين يعلم الله ما في قلوبهم فأعرض عنهم وعظهم وقل لهم في انفسهم قولا بليغا) يعنى والله فلانا وفلانا وما ارسلنا من رسول الا ليطاع باذن الله ولو انهم اذ ظلموا انفسهم جاؤك فاستغفروا الله واستغفر لهم الرسول لوجدوا الله توابا رحيما يعنى والله النبى (صلى الله عليه وآله) وعليا (عليه السلام) مما صنعوا، يعنى لوجاؤك بها ياعلى فاستغفروا الله مما صنعوا واستغفر لهم الرسول لوجدوا الله توابا رحيما فلا وربك لايؤمنون حتى يحكموك فيما شجر بينهم فقال ابوعبدالله (عليه السلام): هو والله على بعينه ثم لايجدوا في أنفسهم حرجا مما قضيت على لسانك يا رسول الله يعنى به من ولاية على ويسلموا تسليما لعلى ...from Ibn Adhina, from 'Abd Allah al-Najashi, he said: I heard Aba 'Abd Allah (peace be upon him) saying, regarding the words of Allah, the Glorious and Exalted: They are the ones whom Allah knows as to what is in their hearts. So let them alone, and advise them, and speak to them concerning themselves far-reaching words (4:63) by God it means so and so and so and so and We did not send any apostle but to be obeyed by Allah’s leave. Had they, when they wronged themselves, come to you and pleaded to Allah for forgiveness, and the Apostle had pleaded for them [to Allah] for forgiveness, they would have surely found Allah all-clement, all-merciful (4:64). By God this means the Prophet (peace be upon him and his family) and 'Ali (peace be upon him) from that which they (the hypocrites) fabricated. Meaning if they came to you with it (the fabrication) O 'Ali then sought forgiveness for that which they fabricated and the Messenger had sought forgiveness from them, they would surely have found Allah all-clement and all-merciful. But no, by your Lord! They will not believe until they make you a judge in their disputes (4:64) Abu 'Abd Allah (peace be upon him) said: By God, that is none other than 'Ali, then do not find within their hearts any dissent to your verdict (4:64) (that you proclaimed) with your tongue O messenger of Allah, meaning by that, of the wilayah of 'Ali, and submit in full submission (4:64) to 'Ali. al-Kafi, volume 8, Hadith #526 Admitedly al-Majlisi has greaded this narration as 'weak' (Miraat al-'Uqul, vol.26, page490), however al-Ayyashi has narrated the same hadith in his tafsir, and out of well over a dozen narration that shaykh Yusuf al-Bahrani reported in Tafsir al-Burhan, most have similar wording to this, but more importantly, none corroborate the modern interpretation of this holy verse. al-Qummi said in his tafsir: وقوله ﴿وَمَا أَرْسَلْنَا مِن رَّسُولٍ إِلاَّ لِيُطَاعَ بِإِذْنِ اللّهِ﴾ اي بأمر الله، وقوله ﴿وَلَوْ أَنَّهُمْ إِذ ظَّلَمُواْ أَنفُسَهُمْ جَآؤُوكَ فَاسْتَغْفَرُواْ اللّهَ﴾ فإنه حدثني أبي عن ابن أبي عمير عن ابن أذينة عن زرارة عن أبي جعفر (ع) قال " ولو أنهم إذ ظلموا أنفسهم جاؤوك يا علي فاستغفروا الله واستغفر لهم الرسول لوجدوا الله توابا رحيما " هكذا نزلت And his saying: We did not send any apostle but to be obeyed by Allah’s leave (4:64) or by Allah's command, and His saying: Had they, when they wronged themselves, come to you and pleaded to Allah for forgiveness (4:64), my father narrated to me from Ibn Abi 'Umayr from Ibn Adhina from Zurara from Abi Ja'far (peace be upon him) he said: And had they, when they wronged themselves come to you O 'Ali and pleaded to Allah for forgiveness and the Messenger had pleaded for them that would have found Allah all-clement all-merciful, that is how it was revealed. ------------------------------------ As far as I can see, this verse has nothing at all to do with us calling directly on the Prophet, al-Tusi didn't understand the verse that way, and the narrations about this verse give the context and attach it to the verses before and after it. Looking forward to your explanations. و اسلام عليكم و رحمة الله
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