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  1. Hi everyone, I have a poll for my Iranian brothers and sisters. I was wondering, where do the majority of the Iranians on this page reside. I would appreciate it if you could answer my poll. This poll in anonymous.
  2. So I had this dialogue with an Iranian in the comments section who claimed her culture and history had nothing to do with Islam and that Islam some how destroyed her country, I debunked all her fallacious arguments and exposed her use of unsound logic(I have highlighted certain points in color coding for emphasis/or to highlight the jist of the arguments). Also my name in the comments section was Sean Penn, the Iranian was Zaba Newsjunkie: JohnDuffin • 16 days ago Salmon Rushdie tells a story how he drove from the UK to India to see his family. He was able to drive through the middle east w/o All of the Islamic countries driving their citizens to the field of battle in the name of Islam back then, like they have been doing for the last couple of decades. There are many countries that are under Islamic control now that would be wonderful to visit. We will just have to wait for Islam to burn itself out before a real sustainable business of traveling can even be remotely considered. Iran has a lot to show the world, once the violent Islamic leaders are driven out, and civilization can return. 3 • Share › Reason_and_Doubt JohnDuffin • 16 days ago Iran is unique in being a Shiite-led government. Shia isn't common in the Muslim world, they're a minority of the overall Muslim population. A lot of what is great about Iran is because of Islam. The poets Rumi and Hafiz were both Muslims. Works like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... were influenced by moderate and even liberal interpretations of Islam. Beautiful art and architecture lies hidden to the Western world because of politics now. The scary stuff you see on TV today is the result of an authoritarian government, pushing strict interpretations on a populace rocked by violence and hit hard by international sanctions. Saudi Arabia isn't much different, but they're Sunni and we call them allies. 6 • Share › Human Being Reason_and_Doubt • 16 days ago Not so. Persian poets and philosophers have been fighting against Islam for the last 1400 years. Omar Khayyam, Hafiz, Ferdowsi and others used poetry to protect the people of Iran from the toxic influence of Islam. Muslims and particularly Muslim women have been the primary victims of Islam. Islam is not compatible with a civilized way of life. Can you name one Islamic nation where people can freely criticize Islam and not lose their lives? 4 • Share › Sean Penn Human Being • 15 days ago Iranian contributions to science were immense during the Abbasid era. 3 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago Iranian contributions to science were immense MYTH • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Ah so the House of Baghdad was a MYTH Alhazen didn't exist the Moors who brought Ancient Greek and Roman culture were never came to Spain all scientists during that period were a MYTH? 1 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago Lies that Moslems make up. Islam invented nothing. Propaganda is not truth. Mendacity is not history. What follows is a list of items that Moslems never invented but claim as their own. In times past this was called 'lying', with mendacity a psychopathic condition usually found in mental degenerates. Today it is recognized as truth or at least as 'an interesting viewpoint, which cannot be dis-proven, since reality does not exist, and we don't know anything'. http://western-civilisation.co... • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Totally because the first person to propose separation of church and state was Averroes an Arab Muslim. 2 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago islam is a political ideology with the thinnest of thin veneers of religion. For details: politicalislam.com • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Nice no original ideas all articles! 1 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago I'm pointing out the problem in the world is mostly islam, which foments a staggering 95% of current armed conflicts. • Share › Reason_and_Doubt Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago About as true as Mel Gibson's claims about Jews. • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Reason_and_Doubt • 14 days ago Are you protecting islam's secrets? ANYONE can pull up a list of hot spots and see who is fomenting. 95% are islamic. • Share › Reason_and_Doubt Zaba Newsjunkie • 14 days ago A lot of those 'hot spots' are countries with impoverished people, authoritarian regimes, and atrocious standards of living. The problem is that you keep insisting that the egg laid the chicken. • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Can you even form your own original arguments or do you keep posting links 1 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago The problem is islam. The rest is commentary. Go and study. • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Red herring Fallacy you did not address my point! 1 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago There is nothing good about islam. • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Answer my argument instead of using smokescreen and red herring fallacies. 2 • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Red Herring again! 1 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago too salty • Share › Mike B Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago The only one salty is you. Did a Muslim employer not give you a job; is that why you're mad? • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Mike B • 15 days ago islam is not compatible with the West. There are many reasons NOT to hire a muzlim. • Share › Mike B Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago That's pretty funny, because Muslim people tend to be wealthier and more educated than the their fellow Americans, and 100% guaranteed all of them are smarter than you. • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Mike B • 14 days ago I'm just crushed.... • Share › Mike B Zaba Newsjunkie • 14 days ago From all your hatred towards Muslims, it seems like you are crushed. Maybe go ask a Muslim to give you a job. • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Again Biased sites with no objectivity. 1 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago got facts? • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago 14 centuries of islamic history as recorded by Arab historians. Biased. • Share › Reason_and_Doubt Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago The West can corroborate...unless you want to tell us Muslims were the only people with a written language til the 20th century • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Reason_and_Doubt • 14 days ago The West was not observing islam's 'most perfect human ever'. • Share › Reason_and_Doubt Zaba Newsjunkie • 14 days ago Zayn Malik? • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Random biased article NICE! 1 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago biased How so? Got other facts? • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago islam is a culture destroyer • Share › Reason_and_Doubt Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Well, now that Hasbara has weighed in... • Share › Human Being Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Not so. Check out: Razi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Avicenna https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Omar Khayyam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Iranians have contributed a lot to science. • Share › Sean Penn Human Being • 15 days ago I am an Iranian studies major, and what you have said is wrong rulers in the Muslim world patronized poets like Hafiz, Sadi, and Ferdowsi. For instance, Timur was a patron of Persian miniatures and calligraphy under the Timurid era Persian arts reached a new height during his time, he also patronized Hafez who wrote to poets during the Timurid era. Also, the historical Persian empire built on the successes of many of its satrapies or client states which would include modern day Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Azerbaijan and the Central Asian countries such as Turkmenistan. 2 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago the historical Persian empire had nothing to do with islam. • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Ah so give up the Arabic script, give up the Arabic and Chinese influence in Persian miniature painting. Give up the floral and geometric designs in Persian metalwork pottery and carpet weaving which arose during that time period and see what's left of "Iranian culture." 1 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago Did they have a choice? NO! • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Ferdowsi had the choice to use any other script Pahlavi, Avestan etc he used the Arabic script 1 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 14 days ago Ferdowsi had the choice There is no choice under islam. The name is self defining. Since you are a self described Iranian studies major, you would know EXACTLY what islam means! • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago He was, apparently, a good dhimmi. • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago They did 1 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago I stand corrected: convert or die. • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Reason_and_Doubt • 16 days ago A lot of what may be great about Iran is in spite of Islam. 3 • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Well partly but philosphers and scientists like Avicenna arose during the Abbasid era and the Baghdad House of Wisdom was created during this time period with contributions from Persians, Arabs, Turks, and even North Africans. 2 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago islam means submission to Allah and sharia law. That leaves NO room for independent thought and action. islam invented nothing. • Share › Sincere Ironic Reason_and_Doubt • 16 days ago Iran used to be one of the leaders in the world for math and science until Islam took hold. 1 • Share › Sean Penn Sincere Ironic • 15 days ago Actually it was known for its accomplishments in medicine during the Abbasid era you see great philosophers and scientists like Avicenna or Averroes. Science and math only left Iran and the Muslim World after the destruction of the House of Wisdom in Baghdad by the Mongols who burned libraries and scientific works. 2 • Share › Sincere Ironic Sean Penn • 15 days ago First, Medicine is a Science. Science no longer flourishes in this region, because too much of it contradicts the teachings in Islam. 1 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sincere Ironic • 15 days ago not to mention the inbreeding..... • Share › Righteous Reverend Cynical Sean Penn • 15 days ago And now comes ISIS to continue the job. At least the Mongols had decent BBQ. • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sincere Ironic • 15 days ago How Muslims Did Not Invent Algebra Enza Ferreri follows up on her earlier post about the inflated claims of Islamic contributions to science, this time tackling the topic of Islam and mathematics, specifically algebra. There is archaeological evidence that the roots of algebra date back to the ancient Babylonians, and were then developed in Egypt and Greece. The Chinese and especially the Indians also advanced algebra and wrote important works on the subject. http://gatesofvienna.net/2013/... • Share › Sincere Ironic Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago There is a difference between saying that they were one of the leaders in the world on math and saying they invented Algebra. Even the the word Algebra comes from Arabic. 1 • Share › − Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Greeks and Romans borrowed Algebra Math and Science from the Egyptians! • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago All those societies are ARAB now. • Share ›
  3. So I had this dialogue with an Iranian in the comments section who claimed her culture and history had nothing to do with Islam and that Islam some how destroyed her country, I debunked all her fallacious arguments and exposed her use of unsound logic(I have highlighted certain points in color coding for emphasis/or to highlight the jist of the arguments). Also my name in the comments section was Sean Penn, the Iranian was Zaba Newsjunkie: JohnDuffin • 16 days ago Salmon Rushdie tells a story how he drove from the UK to India to see his family. He was able to drive through the middle east w/o All of the Islamic countries driving their citizens to the field of battle in the name of Islam back then, like they have been doing for the last couple of decades. There are many countries that are under Islamic control now that would be wonderful to visit. We will just have to wait for Islam to burn itself out before a real sustainable business of traveling can even be remotely considered. Iran has a lot to show the world, once the violent Islamic leaders are driven out, and civilization can return. 3 • Share › Reason_and_Doubt JohnDuffin • 16 days ago Iran is unique in being a Shiite-led government. Shia isn't common in the Muslim world, they're a minority of the overall Muslim population. A lot of what is great about Iran is because of Islam. The poets Rumi and Hafiz were both Muslims. Works like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... were influenced by moderate and even liberal interpretations of Islam. Beautiful art and architecture lies hidden to the Western world because of politics now. The scary stuff you see on TV today is the result of an authoritarian government, pushing strict interpretations on a populace rocked by violence and hit hard by international sanctions. Saudi Arabia isn't much different, but they're Sunni and we call them allies. 6 • Share › Human Being Reason_and_Doubt • 16 days ago Not so. Persian poets and philosophers have been fighting against Islam for the last 1400 years. Omar Khayyam, Hafiz, Ferdowsi and others used poetry to protect the people of Iran from the toxic influence of Islam. Muslims and particularly Muslim women have been the primary victims of Islam. Islam is not compatible with a civilized way of life. Can you name one Islamic nation where people can freely criticize Islam and not lose their lives? 4 • Share › Sean Penn Human Being • 15 days ago Iranian contributions to science were immense during the Abbasid era. 3 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago Iranian contributions to science were immense MYTH • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Ah so the House of Baghdad was a MYTH Alhazen didn't exist the Moors who brought Ancient Greek and Roman culture were never came to Spain all scientists during that period were a MYTH? 1 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago Lies that Moslems make up. Islam invented nothing. Propaganda is not truth. Mendacity is not history. What follows is a list of items that Moslems never invented but claim as their own. In times past this was called 'lying', with mendacity a psychopathic condition usually found in mental degenerates. Today it is recognized as truth or at least as 'an interesting viewpoint, which cannot be dis-proven, since reality does not exist, and we don't know anything'. http://western-civilisation.co... • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Totally because the first person to propose separation of church and state was Averroes an Arab Muslim. 2 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago islam is a political ideology with the thinnest of thin veneers of religion. For details: politicalislam.com • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Nice no original ideas all articles! 1 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago I'm pointing out the problem in the world is mostly islam, which foments a staggering 95% of current armed conflicts. • Share › Reason_and_Doubt Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago About as true as Mel Gibson's claims about Jews. • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Reason_and_Doubt • 14 days ago Are you protecting islam's secrets? ANYONE can pull up a list of hot spots and see who is fomenting. 95% are islamic. • Share › Reason_and_Doubt Zaba Newsjunkie • 14 days ago A lot of those 'hot spots' are countries with impoverished people, authoritarian regimes, and atrocious standards of living. The problem is that you keep insisting that the egg laid the chicken. • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Can you even form your own original arguments or do you keep posting links 1 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago The problem is islam. The rest is commentary. Go and study. • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Red herring Fallacy you did not address my point! 1 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago There is nothing good about islam. • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Answer my argument instead of using smokescreen and red herring fallacies. 2 • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Red Herring again! 1 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago too salty • Share › Mike B Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago The only one salty is you. Did a Muslim employer not give you a job; is that why you're mad? • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Mike B • 15 days ago islam is not compatible with the West. There are many reasons NOT to hire a muzlim. • Share › Mike B Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago That's pretty funny, because Muslim people tend to be wealthier and more educated than the their fellow Americans, and 100% guaranteed all of them are smarter than you. • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Mike B • 14 days ago I'm just crushed.... • Share › Mike B Zaba Newsjunkie • 14 days ago From all your hatred towards Muslims, it seems like you are crushed. Maybe go ask a Muslim to give you a job. • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Again Biased sites with no objectivity. 1 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago got facts? • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago 14 centuries of islamic history as recorded by Arab historians. Biased. • Share › Reason_and_Doubt Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago The West can corroborate...unless you want to tell us Muslims were the only people with a written language til the 20th century • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Reason_and_Doubt • 14 days ago The West was not observing islam's 'most perfect human ever'. • Share › Reason_and_Doubt Zaba Newsjunkie • 14 days ago Zayn Malik? • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Random biased article NICE! 1 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago biased How so? Got other facts? • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago islam is a culture destroyer • Share › Reason_and_Doubt Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Well, now that Hasbara has weighed in... • Share › Human Being Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Not so. Check out: Razi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Avicenna https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Omar Khayyam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Iranians have contributed a lot to science. • Share › Sean Penn Human Being • 15 days ago I am an Iranian studies major, and what you have said is wrong rulers in the Muslim world patronized poets like Hafiz, Sadi, and Ferdowsi. For instance, Timur was a patron of Persian miniatures and calligraphy under the Timurid era Persian arts reached a new height during his time, he also patronized Hafez who wrote to poets during the Timurid era. Also, the historical Persian empire built on the successes of many of its satrapies or client states which would include modern day Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Azerbaijan and the Central Asian countries such as Turkmenistan. 2 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago the historical Persian empire had nothing to do with islam. • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Ah so give up the Arabic script, give up the Arabic and Chinese influence in Persian miniature painting. Give up the floral and geometric designs in Persian metalwork pottery and carpet weaving which arose during that time period and see what's left of "Iranian culture." 1 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago Did they have a choice? NO! • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Ferdowsi had the choice to use any other script Pahlavi, Avestan etc he used the Arabic script 1 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 14 days ago Ferdowsi had the choice There is no choice under islam. The name is self defining. Since you are a self described Iranian studies major, you would know EXACTLY what islam means! • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago He was, apparently, a good dhimmi. • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago They did 1 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago I stand corrected: convert or die. • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Reason_and_Doubt • 16 days ago A lot of what may be great about Iran is in spite of Islam. 3 • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Well partly but philosphers and scientists like Avicenna arose during the Abbasid era and the Baghdad House of Wisdom was created during this time period with contributions from Persians, Arabs, Turks, and even North Africans. 2 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sean Penn • 15 days ago islam means submission to Allah and sharia law. That leaves NO room for independent thought and action. islam invented nothing. • Share › Sincere Ironic Reason_and_Doubt • 16 days ago Iran used to be one of the leaders in the world for math and science until Islam took hold. 1 • Share › Sean Penn Sincere Ironic • 15 days ago Actually it was known for its accomplishments in medicine during the Abbasid era you see great philosophers and scientists like Avicenna or Averroes. Science and math only left Iran and the Muslim World after the destruction of the House of Wisdom in Baghdad by the Mongols who burned libraries and scientific works. 2 • Share › Sincere Ironic Sean Penn • 15 days ago First, Medicine is a Science. Science no longer flourishes in this region, because too much of it contradicts the teachings in Islam. 1 • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sincere Ironic • 15 days ago not to mention the inbreeding..... • Share › Righteous Reverend Cynical Sean Penn • 15 days ago And now comes ISIS to continue the job. At least the Mongols had decent BBQ. • Share › Zaba Newsjunkie Sincere Ironic • 15 days ago How Muslims Did Not Invent Algebra Enza Ferreri follows up on her earlier post about the inflated claims of Islamic contributions to science, this time tackling the topic of Islam and mathematics, specifically algebra. There is archaeological evidence that the roots of algebra date back to the ancient Babylonians, and were then developed in Egypt and Greece. The Chinese and especially the Indians also advanced algebra and wrote important works on the subject. http://gatesofvienna.net/2013/... • Share › Sincere Ironic Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago There is a difference between saying that they were one of the leaders in the world on math and saying they invented Algebra. Even the the word Algebra comes from Arabic. 1 • Share › − Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago Greeks and Romans borrowed Algebra Math and Science from the Egyptians! • Share › Sean Penn Zaba Newsjunkie • 15 days ago All those societies are ARAB now. • Share ›
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