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Read the Reddit comments to understand what the thread was about, since the post has since been deleted. ....................................................................................... I'm so tired of the utterly nonsensical and VERY COMMON Sunni notion of 'I am happy to seek unity with Shias as long as they don't curse/insult/abuse any Sahaba, and especially NOT Aisha, Abu Bakr, Omar, Uthman. Firstly, any Shia claim regarding the sahabi that happens to go against the Sunni narrative is considered insulting. Secondly, and more importantly, is that the same notion is true for Shias... You are insulting the Ahlul Bayt by not accepting them as divinely appointed leaders of Allah, and infallible individuals, and perfect preservers of the religion of Islam, and a high means of seeking closeness to Allah (intercession). Not only are you insulting revered Shia figures by not following them, you are commiting MAJOR shirk by giving a false attribute to Allah, by saying that Allah has not always appointed an infallible leader on this Earth, and that there currently isn't an infallible leader. Furthermore, the real kicker is that plenty of revered Shia figures, such as Abu Talib (رضي الله عنه), are considered kuffar by Sunnis. Is this not insulting? So, how can we Shias unite with Sunnis based on their own fallacious logic? Shias are the minority, and Sunnis are the majority. It makes Sunnis think that they are Orthodox and that they have to unite with Heterodox for political and humanitarian reasons, and that Shias must make [ridiculous] compromises. Shias are far more receptive to the unity message, because we actually understand Sunni Islam, and can see the commonalities. We understand that we can't make Sunnis compromise on their beliefs. Simply by being the minority within Islam, by nature we Shias already understand Sunni beliefs, whereas Sunnis have a basic strawman understanding of Shia beliefs... which is natural, considering that they are the majority. Anyways, the point of my post is the following: Let's compile a list of revered Shia figures that are not given their proper status by Sunnis, according to Shia Islam... with an explanation given. ...This is to show that we Shias and Sunnis can unite, but we cannot unite upon revered figures and imamah. ...This will also serve as a way of showing Sunnis that this argument of theirs makes no sense. Another important question we may ask is "What about commonly revered figures like Imam Ali (عليه السلام) who is given different status in both sects? Can we unite upon Imam Ali (عليه السلام)?" ...a common Sunni criticism of political unity is that "Ali ibn Abi Talib (رضي الله عنه) is given an improper status in Shia religion because they call upon him... tawassul (intercession) of the 'dead' is Shirk! So there is absolutely no room for unity since we can't even agree on the status of the sahabi" [yes, I am aware that the Imams (عليه السلام) are still alive, but Sunnis don't believe this...] I would love to hear your thoughts. Wassalam. JazakAllah Khair. Fi sabilillah.
Sunni Sheikh Insulted Muawiyah On Dubaitv (latest)
smfaheem posted a topic in Shia/Sunni Dialoguehttp://gulfnews.com/...n-uae-1.1002400 Dubai: The UAE's Twitter community was up in arms over the weekend after a well-known Islamic scholar allegedly criticised the first Ummayad Caliph Muawiya Bin Abu Sufiyan, one of the companions of Prophet Mohammad (pbuh). Shaikh Ahmad Al Kubaisi, who hosts a popular weekly religious show, criticised Muawiya in respect to a historic event, the infamous battle between Muawiya's forces and the forces loyal to Imam Ali Bin Abi Talib, a cousin of the Prophet. Twitter users have appealed to the Dubai Media Incorporated (DMI) to stop the show. They accuse Al Kubaisi of insulting companions of the Prophet. In a statement issued yesterday, the DMI said that it welcomes all opinions in an objective manner to benefit the community and take into account the protection of its established beliefs and values. The DMI added that it would like to clarify in this context that the speech of preacher Shaikh Ahmad Al Kubaisi on Friday, during the programme Okhar Motashabehat, which literally means similar themes but different purposes, aired on Dubai TV, "reflects his personal views and convictions, and did not reflect the opinion of the DMI or its attitude in this respect". It added that the DMI insists on undiminished respect for the Prophet's family, all the Prophet's companions and all the Islamic symbols without diminution of any one of them.
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