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Read the Reddit comments to understand what the thread was about, since the post has since been deleted. ....................................................................................... I'm so tired of the utterly nonsensical and VERY COMMON Sunni notion of 'I am happy to seek unity with Shias as long as they don't curse/insult/abuse any Sahaba, and especially NOT Aisha, Abu Bakr, Omar, Uthman. Firstly, any Shia claim regarding the sahabi that happens to go against the Sunni narrative is considered insulting. Secondly, and more importantly, is that the same notion is true for Shias... You are insulting the Ahlul Bayt by not accepting them as divinely appointed leaders of Allah, and infallible individuals, and perfect preservers of the religion of Islam, and a high means of seeking closeness to Allah (intercession). Not only are you insulting revered Shia figures by not following them, you are commiting MAJOR shirk by giving a false attribute to Allah, by saying that Allah has not always appointed an infallible leader on this Earth, and that there currently isn't an infallible leader. Furthermore, the real kicker is that plenty of revered Shia figures, such as Abu Talib (رضي الله عنه), are considered kuffar by Sunnis. Is this not insulting? So, how can we Shias unite with Sunnis based on their own fallacious logic? Shias are the minority, and Sunnis are the majority. It makes Sunnis think that they are Orthodox and that they have to unite with Heterodox for political and humanitarian reasons, and that Shias must make [ridiculous] compromises. Shias are far more receptive to the unity message, because we actually understand Sunni Islam, and can see the commonalities. We understand that we can't make Sunnis compromise on their beliefs. Simply by being the minority within Islam, by nature we Shias already understand Sunni beliefs, whereas Sunnis have a basic strawman understanding of Shia beliefs... which is natural, considering that they are the majority. Anyways, the point of my post is the following: Let's compile a list of revered Shia figures that are not given their proper status by Sunnis, according to Shia Islam... with an explanation given. ...This is to show that we Shias and Sunnis can unite, but we cannot unite upon revered figures and imamah. ...This will also serve as a way of showing Sunnis that this argument of theirs makes no sense. Another important question we may ask is "What about commonly revered figures like Imam Ali (عليه السلام) who is given different status in both sects? Can we unite upon Imam Ali (عليه السلام)?" ...a common Sunni criticism of political unity is that "Ali ibn Abi Talib (رضي الله عنه) is given an improper status in Shia religion because they call upon him... tawassul (intercession) of the 'dead' is Shirk! So there is absolutely no room for unity since we can't even agree on the status of the sahabi" [yes, I am aware that the Imams (عليه السلام) are still alive, but Sunnis don't believe this...] I would love to hear your thoughts. Wassalam. JazakAllah Khair. Fi sabilillah.
Asadollah Al Ghalib ‘Ali ibne Abi Talib La fatah illah Ali, La saif illah Zulfikaar 13th Rajab Mobarak ! "Qud Tawatarul Akhbar Inna Fatimah Binte Asad woledat Aliyan Fi Jaufil Kaaba " It was Friday 13th of Rajab 30 Amulfeel Hazrat Fatima binte Asad (as), the wife of Hazrat Abu Talib (as) entered the precincts of the Kaaba and prayed to Allah saying O’my protector ease my pain.’All of a sudden the wall of the Kaaba opened up and she, as if by some unseen force went inside the Kaaba and the wall closed. Ali (as) the youngest son of Abu Talib was born inside the Holy Kaaba. http://www.al-islam.org/kaaba14/4.htm The Prophet (P.B.U.H) said, “Ali (A.S) holds the position of the Kaaba.” The Prophet (P.B.U.H) said, “I am the warner, and the guide after me is Ali (A.S).” The Prophet (P.B.U.H) said, “Ali (A.S) stands in relation to me as my head to my body.” The Prophet (P.B.U.H) said, “Of whomever I was master, Ali (A.S) is his master.” The Prophet (P.B.U.H) said, “Exemption from the Hellfire comes with love for Ali (A.S)." The Prophet (P.B.U.H) said, “There would not be one sufficient for Fatima if God had not created Ali (A.S).” The Prophet (P.B.U.H) said, “No one is permitted on the Bridge except by the wilayat of Ali (A.S).” The Prophet (P.B.U.H) said, “Ali (A.S) is the partition between Heaven and Hell.” The Prophet (P.B.U.H) said, “Ali (A.S) is with the Qur’an, and the Qur’an is with Ali.” http://www.sibtayn.c...lias&Itemid=335 From the East to the West if filled with the Imams Ali and his household is enough for us To kill the evil soul in the body is not the work of the secular prince While to tear into pieces the snake in the cradle is the work of Heydar The reputation of his sword has spread all over this world The fame of his sih Nan has spread even beyond this world Since the mystery of ‘ata’ he is sincere because of the sih Nan seventeen verses were revealed in his praise He became the gate of the city of knowledge in such a way that he truly became the divider of paradise He became immersed in spiritual poverty in such a way that he divorced silver and gold three times If his knowledge were to become a running ocean in it the green ocean became like a drop of water ~ Shaykh Farid al Din Muhammad ibn Ibrahim ‘Attar Nayshaburi (ra) Muhammed Mirac’in yaluna girdi Bu su gayet sir icinde sir idi Sir donunu, Hatem muhrunu Verdi Bu sirrin kim eder Ali’den gayri Muhammad entered the way of ascent This secret was a secret inside a very secret He gave his seal to the form of a lion Who could be this secret other than Ali ~ Kul Himmet (ra)
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