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Read the Reddit comments to understand what the thread was about, since the post has since been deleted. ....................................................................................... I'm so tired of the utterly nonsensical and VERY COMMON Sunni notion of 'I am happy to seek unity with Shias as long as they don't curse/insult/abuse any Sahaba, and especially NOT Aisha, Abu Bakr, Omar, Uthman. Firstly, any Shia claim regarding the sahabi that happens to go against the Sunni narrative is considered insulting. Secondly, and more importantly, is that the same notion is true for Shias... You are insulting the Ahlul Bayt by not accepting them as divinely appointed leaders of Allah, and infallible individuals, and perfect preservers of the religion of Islam, and a high means of seeking closeness to Allah (intercession). Not only are you insulting revered Shia figures by not following them, you are commiting MAJOR shirk by giving a false attribute to Allah, by saying that Allah has not always appointed an infallible leader on this Earth, and that there currently isn't an infallible leader. Furthermore, the real kicker is that plenty of revered Shia figures, such as Abu Talib (رضي الله عنه), are considered kuffar by Sunnis. Is this not insulting? So, how can we Shias unite with Sunnis based on their own fallacious logic? Shias are the minority, and Sunnis are the majority. It makes Sunnis think that they are Orthodox and that they have to unite with Heterodox for political and humanitarian reasons, and that Shias must make [ridiculous] compromises. Shias are far more receptive to the unity message, because we actually understand Sunni Islam, and can see the commonalities. We understand that we can't make Sunnis compromise on their beliefs. Simply by being the minority within Islam, by nature we Shias already understand Sunni beliefs, whereas Sunnis have a basic strawman understanding of Shia beliefs... which is natural, considering that they are the majority. Anyways, the point of my post is the following: Let's compile a list of revered Shia figures that are not given their proper status by Sunnis, according to Shia Islam... with an explanation given. ...This is to show that we Shias and Sunnis can unite, but we cannot unite upon revered figures and imamah. ...This will also serve as a way of showing Sunnis that this argument of theirs makes no sense. Another important question we may ask is "What about commonly revered figures like Imam Ali (عليه السلام) who is given different status in both sects? Can we unite upon Imam Ali (عليه السلام)?" ...a common Sunni criticism of political unity is that "Ali ibn Abi Talib (رضي الله عنه) is given an improper status in Shia religion because they call upon him... tawassul (intercession) of the 'dead' is Shirk! So there is absolutely no room for unity since we can't even agree on the status of the sahabi" [yes, I am aware that the Imams (عليه السلام) are still alive, but Sunnis don't believe this...] I would love to hear your thoughts. Wassalam. JazakAllah Khair. Fi sabilillah.
Asalaamualaikum brothers and sisters, I have recently been reading about the amazing Islamic figure, Imam Zayd Ibn Ali (RA). I have to say this is one of the greatest people I have ever read about! I had a few questions to my Shia brothers and sisters. Apart from his uprising against the oppressive and corrupt ummayads and his beautiful character, one of the things that caught my attention about Imam Zayd (RA) is his respect for some for the sahaba. For example Imam Zayd refused to speak ill of Umar ibn Khattab (RA) and Abu Bakr Siddique (RA): The people of Kufah were now called upon to honour their oaths and fulfill their pledges .They did gather around Zayd ibn ‘Ali but not to protect him, rather to question him about his beliefs (after inciting him to accept their oaths and rise up against the rulers): They asked: “What is your view, may the mercy of Allah be upon you, regarding Abu Bakr and ‘Umar?” Zayd ibn ‘Ali answered, “May Allah forgive them. I did not hear anyone of the Ahl al-Bayt dissociating from them and I only speak good of them… They ruled and displayed justice and enforced and practiced upon the Qur’an and Sunnah.” (Narrated by Tabari and others) ALLAHUAKBAR, So a serious question I want to ask to the twelver shia is: Are'nt these people that deserted Zayd ibn Ali (RA) the same ones that deserted Imam Husayn (RA)? and isn't this proof (among many more proofs) that we should curse abu bakr and Umar?
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