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Why was the belief of the Trinity not rampant within the first 300 years of Christendom? Do the scholars of today know more than the Church Fathers of old? Why did it only come during the time of Tertullian as opposed to everyone preceding him? Why did the Apostles not mention any of this in their writings? Why are the four synoptic Gospels attributed to the Apostles when it is clear that they are anonymous?
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Salaam, Who taught or revealed the Gospel to Jesus? Since we believe Jibraeel revealed the Qur'an to our Nabi and Jibraeel is the Arcangel of Revelation, who revealed the Gospel to Jesus and is there any evidence? Same question for Ibrahim and Musa... Did Allah speak directly to Abraham and Moses? Did Allah also speak directly to Jesus and Muhammad and is there any evidence? By "evidence" I specifically mean Ayats in Qur'an, Hadith or anything from our Imams stating these things. Thank you!
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Hi friends. While reading up on the topic of Imam Mahdi, I came across the following narration: Jabir Ibn Yazid al-Jo'fi from Imam Muhammad Baqr: "...The reason why Hazrat Mahdi (as) is known as Hazrat Mahdi (as) is this; he will be directed toward a secret matter, will extract the Torah and other Divine books from a cave in Antioch and will judge among the Jews with the Torah and among the Christians with the Gospel." (Al-Mahdiy al-Mawud) It leaves me with a few questions. 1.) I came across this narration on a non-Shia website, but it seems to be from a Shia source. Is this narration considered reliable? 2.) Is the belief that the Mahdi will restore the true form of previous scriptures generally held within the Shia IthnaAsheri community? 3.) What happens after the true form of these scriptures is restored? The same website had a narration that some Jews and Christians become Muslim, presumably observing the Shariah of Muhammad. What about the rest? Does a restoration of the true form of Jewish law occur (based upon "will judge among the Jews with the Torah")? If so, does this render Judaism a purified sort of Jewish Islam? 4.) Any theories on how a pure version of the Torah might have come to a cave in Antioch? I have some thoughts about the gospel, but the Torah has me stumped. Thanks so much for your thoughts and knowledge.
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Mahdi will rule like Solomon and Dhul Qarnayn. why should not we ask Jesus (as) himself about Mahdi (as) !? since the majority of humanity is Christian. in my view point Jesus will return to repeat what humanity has forgotten and what humanity has hidden among the altered Gospels. Matthew 24:24-27 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and show great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. 25 Lo, I have told you beforehand. 26 So, if they say to you, `Lo, he is in the wilderness,' do not go out; if they say, `Lo, he is in the inner rooms,' do not believe it. 27 For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of man. 28 Wherever the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together. Matthew 24:30 then will appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory; Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only. 37 As were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of man. 38 For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, 39 and they did not know until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of man. 40 Then two men will be in the field; one is taken and one is left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill; one is taken and one is left. 42 Watch therefore, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming Matthew 24:43 43 But know this, that if the householder had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have watched and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 Therefore you also must be ready; for the Son of man is coming at an hour you do not expect. 45 "Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom his master has set over his household, to give them their food at the proper time? 46 Blessed is that servant whom his master when he comes will find so doing. 47 Truly, I say to you, he will set him over all his possessions. 48 But if that wicked servant says to himself, `My master is delayed,' 49 and begins to beat his fellow servants, and eats and drinks with the drunken, 50 the master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know, 51 and will punish him, and put him with the hypocrites; there men will weep and gnash their teeth. Luke 12:35 Let your loins be girded and your lamps burning, 36 and be like men who are waiting for their master to come home from the marriage feast, so that they may open to him at once when he comes and knocks. 37 Blessed are those servants whom the master finds awake when he comes; truly, I say to you, he will gird himself and have them sit at table, and he will come and serve them. 38 If he comes in the second watch, or in the third, and finds them so, blessed are those servants! 39 But know this, that if the householder had known at what hour the thief was coming, he would not have left his house to be broken into. 40 You also must be ready; for the Son of man is coming at an unexpected hour." What are they hiding !? Jesus (as) says Mahdi (as) is like ark of Noah : But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only. 37 As were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of man. 38 For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, 39 and they did not know until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of man. 40 Then two men will be in the field; one is taken and one is left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill; one is taken and one is left. 42 Watch therefore, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming ark of Noah ! Son of Man !! Ahlul Bait !!! Mahdi !!!! prophet of Islam pbuh said : أهل بيتي فيكم كسفينة نوح عليه السلام في قومه ، من دخلها نجا ، ومن تخلف عنها هلك my Ahlul Bait is like the ark of Noah. whoever enters it get saved and whoever broaches it, he would get perished. http://library.islamweb.net/newlibrary/display_book.php?bk_no=85&ID=&idfrom=5296&idto=5391&bookid=85&startno=68 Christians should answer why they are not ready, prepared like a good servant for their master, Son of Man, son of the most perfect Man (prophet of Islam pbuh), the second Muhammad, Mahdi !?
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In the Quran we have verses like Quran 5:46 SAHIH INTERNATIONAL And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel, in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous. and others like, which show us that Allah (swt) sent Jesus a scripture and holy book of God inspired by Him. Now we have the belief that a book truly inspired by God can never be altered or played with. This is the very reason we say that the Quran is a perfect and clean book because It is the revelation of Allah (swt), which came to the Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) by Angel Gabriel. We know that the Prophet was given the knowledge of the Quran in it's entirety,(sub-question: was the Quran sent down physically as a copy?), and the Prophet slowly began to speak verse after verse to the people at specific times in specific amounts ( 1 or more verses ). At this point, we had many people taking the Quranic words, writing them down, and compiling it. This is where we get sunni narrations of Uthman having these Quran compilations and that whole situation, as well as other scribes who wrote the Quranic words and compiled them. ( non-muslims seem to use this as a tactic to say how the versions of the Quran from the beginning were always different) ---- this part needs correcting as I don`t fully know if this is how we think the compilation of the Quran is believed to be like. If I am correct, the Shia belief is that from apparent narrations, thirteen (or around that) days after the death of the Prophet, Imam Ali (as) stayed entirely indoors, and compiled the same exact Quran we have until this day from beginning to end. More clarification later... _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Now when it comes to Jesus Christ (as) and his Injeel (Gospel), Islam says that , just like the Prophet, the Gospel came from Allah towards Jesus Christ (as) through Angel Gabriel as well. Jesus also told the people of the revelation the same way and spoke of verses from the Gospel Allah (swt) sent down to him (right?). My main questions are: 1. What is the differences between the way Jesus (pbuh) obtained the revelation of God and the Holy Book, and the way Muhammed (pbuh) obtained revelation of God and the Holy Book? 2. What is the differences in the way they were preserved? Better yet, are the books in the NT Bible words that came from God or are they personal entries from the apostles who wrote them? 3. Did Jesus know they were going to create the NT Bible after him? not the most important question in here but curious if there was any mention of Jesus saying that he wanted this after him. 4. What happened with the Injeel of Jesus (pbuh)? Was it a physical copy like the Quran or was it a full revelation that was in the mind of Jesus (pbuh) which was not revealed as a book? NOTE: I know I have probably been terribly inaccurate with somethings I brought up so clarification and corrections are needed. EDIT: I ask because we know that a book truly inspired by Allah can never be altered and corrupted, so I am trying to learn how the Bible, or even the Torah were revealed and what happened to them. I heard narrations like the inspired books of God (Psalms of David, Torah, Bible) are all in possession of the awaited Imam (af), and will be revealed to us in the end.
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I am under the general impression that Muslims view the bible as either corrupted or wrongly interpreted by Jews and Christians. Most of what I know, I learned from Wikipedia. Many people in the western media seem to portray Islamic culture as underdeveloped and violent. I personally feel their is some truth to this reality. What Assyrians, Copts, and Maronites go through at times seems awful. But, I can't overlook the Violence in the Judeo-Christian scripture. This is a command from Moses in the Torah, " so kill all the boys and all the women who have had intercourse with a man" Numbers 31:17. This is an actual statement from Moses in the Torah. Moses ordered his military commanders to kill the native inhabitants of Canaan (Palestine). The Judeo-Christian God seems far more violent than the God of the Quran. Do Muslims see the reestablishment of Israel as a prerequisite of the coming of the Kingdom of God?
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As-salaamu `alaikum / šǝlāmā Ahl as-sunnah wa l-jamāʻah and Shīʿah assume that the ˀewangelīōn [= Gospel, ܐܸܘܲܢ̈ܓܸܠܼܝܲܐ] and ˀōrāytā are entirely corrupted, thus, there is no truth and guidance therein. Furthermore, they assume that the original ˀewangelīōn and ˀōrāytā were lost, however some parts can still be found, they say. Verily, the Qur'ān do acknowledge some corruption, however, it's not tantamount to wholesale corruption of the ˀewangelīōn and ˀōrāytā, truth can still be extracted from the previous scriptures. Alāhā ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì also pardoned the people of the book [= ahl ktab; yahuwd/hadoo and nasraya/nazarenes (ܢܨܪܝܐ)] for concealing their scriptures. “Have you any hope that they will be true to you when a party of them [= fariqun min'hum] used to listen to the word of God, then used to change it, after they had understood it, knowingly?” [2/75] Kindly note that this is not referring to all 'ahl ktab' but some of them [= ... when a party of them ...]. Some verses afterwards, one gets further information that some of 'ahl ktab' were also gentiles [= ummiyuna, Syr. arāmāyā; ˁammǝmāy (ܥܡܡܝܐ, root ˁmmy)] who had no understanding of the scripture, but only followed their own desires and speculations: "And there are among them 'Gentiles', who know not the Book, but (see therein their own) desires, and they do nothing but conjecture". "Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say: "This is from God," so that they may take from it a small price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby" [2/78-79] Comprehension of the context and audience is the clue. This statement was mainly in relation to the Arab Jews and Nazarenes at the time of the Prophet (pbuh) and what they recognized as scriptures in the 6th-7th century. There were amongst them people of the previous scriptures that did distort the scriptures for some reasons. However, this did not mean that the complete ˀewangelīōn and ˀōrāytā was corrupted or had become wholly impossible to perceive or discern due to the alterations. The Qur'ān never tells the believers that the previous scriptures are wholly altered and therefore truth and guidance can't be found therein, in fact, the veracity of the ˀewangelīōn and ˀōrāytā is vouched by the Qur'ān: But why do they come to you for decision, when they have (their own) Torah before them? therein is the (plain) command of God; yet even after that, they would turn away. For they are not People of Faith. [5/43] The cogitation that the ˀewangelīōn and ˀōrāytā are wholly corrupted and therefore truth and guidance can't be found therein is unwarranted from the Qur'ānic point of view and this is caused by misapprehension on the part of many Muslims who don't know the contents and history of the ˀewangelīōn and ˀōrāytā.
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In the name of God. Quote: Those to whom We gave the Scripture know him (prophet of Islam pbuh) as they know their own sons. But indeed, a party of them conceal the truth while they know [it]. Koran 2:146 most likely even name of grandson of prophet of Islam pbuh was mentioned in Gospel, let alone name and specifications of prophet of Islam pbuh, himself ! yes it is really odd. once I heard this from a scholar who is a specialist in Jew and Zhionism issues. he is somehow familiar with old languages like Aramaic, Hebrew. Aramaic and Hebrew are roots of Arabic language and they are similar to each other interestingly. it is believed that Aramaic was the language which Jesus pbuh would speak with. I am speaking about Mathew Gospel, chapter 3 and verse 12. this version is in Aramaic. Pe[Edited Out]ta Aramaic Mathew Gospel. and I want to show you a familiar word there. I hope what I am saying is right In Sha Allah and everyone can search and study more. you can find the Aramaic (Syriac) alphabet in the following link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_alphabet Pe[Edited Out]ta Aramaic Mathew Gospel is in the following link. http://biblehub.com/aramaic-english-gos ... thew/3.htm in the link above, the first four words, at the left side of nineteenth line are as follows : ܚܗܝܢ ܗܘ ܡܢܢܝ ܗܘ ܗ equals the arabic letter ه or english letter h ܘ equals the arabic letter و or english letter w ܡ equals the arabic letter م or english letter m ܢܢ this equals arabic letter ن or english letter n ܝ this equals the arabic letter ی or english letter y ܚ this is the arabic letter ح or خ and it's english is either h or x it seems that there is no difference between them in Aramaic. ܣ this is the arabic letter س or english letter s ܝ again another ی , since it is used in the middle it is attached to adjacent letters. ܢ this another form of ن or n which appears at the end of words. please pay attention, the shape of letters can be a bit different when you put them together and make words from letters. this is the characteristic of Aramaic, Hebrew and Arabic languages. so the arabic translation is as follows : هو منی هو حسین or هو منی هو خسین and in English we can say "he belongs to me (is from me) he Hussain" when you take the mentioned words from it's Aramaic text in the second link and put them in google translator you get : hw mny hw xsyn. which can be equal to هو منی هو حسین very well. honestly, I can not understand the English translation of that site. but at least we see that they have translated this part as : he than me he is stronger ! so they have translated the word H-S-I-N or Hussain as stronger or mightier but remember they have also translated names of prophet of Islam pbuh in Bible already to alter the truth. again what are they hiding !
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