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So in the sequel to the mega hit Disney animated movie frozen, the main character Elsa crosses an ocean at the end of which is a big wall of ice. And entering or maybe crossing it (I didn't pay much attention if it was entering or corssing, was too busy updating my status on social media '#watchingFrozen2') so anyway the wall of ice took the girl to another realm or world. Here are the pictures So just now it occurred to me that one of the theories of flat Earth is that the world is surrounded by a thick huge wall of ice that prevents peoole from falling off. See the eerie similarity?? In your opinion 1.do film makers at disney believe in fact Earth theory and they are subtly trying to inculcate that into our kids?? 2.Does disney know something about Earth that we don't? 3. Shall I let my kids watch the movie again? Thanks.
As salamu aleikoum, Although the Qur'an has absolutly no issue with a round earth rotating around the sun, I found several weird hadiths from Sunni sources (the narrator is Abu Dharr) which seem to claim that it is the sun which is rotating, rotating around a flat earth: It is also found in Sahîh Muslim (159,205). Its text, as related by Abû Dharr al-Ghifârî, is as follows: The hadîth is also found in Sahîh al-Bukhârî in a highly abridged form (4803, 7433). Its text reads: I checked the references and they are correct, although I did not find such an hadith in Sahih Muslim 205. According to some people, there is an hadith which says the earth is round: I did not find the reference though. Is this a fabricated hadith or does it really exist? You can find everywhere. But according to a website, it is fabricated (https://islamqa.info/en/145202). According to a shia hadith, the earth is round: There is no reference for the "logical East and West" hadith though. Does someone know the reference? Also, can someone check in Wasailush Shia, Vol.I to see if it's there (maybe here: https://books.rafed.net/view.php?type=c_fbook&b_id=280)? If possible, it would be better to find another book of hadith, since Wasailush Shia is a quite late compilation (17th century, after the heliocentrism theory was already famous I think)? What do you think about those hadiths? Are they authentic? If they are authentic, how should they be interpreted (I did not read the arabic)? Are they any other hadith talking about the shape of the earth and/or helio-/geocentrism? Jazak Allah khair.
Flat Earth Model Belief assumed earth was completely flat Day and night could not happen simultaneously Earth fixed and sun orbiting the earth Myths were ripe surrounding where the sun set and rose from Model could only support a single sunrise and sunset point Model could not support different time zones across the world Spherical Earth Model Earth is almost spherical with a few minor exceptions around the poles Earth orbits the SUN Earth is spinning to give us day and night simultaneously SUN is static relative to the earth Each point on earth has its own sunrise and sunset point Different time zones supported across the world Before I present the verses of the Quran that describes the earth, I will start of with the following verse. Sura Az-Zukhruf (43:3) We verily, have made it a Qur'ân in Arabic, that you may be able to understand (its meanings and its admonitions). This verse is clearly telling us that the Quran is meant to be easily understood and not what Dr Naik assumes, by taking us around the universe. Galaxies were not understood at the time the Quran was revealed and hence would have confused the people at the time. Also, as you will notice, all suras I have pointed out were revealed in Makkah, at a time when the prophet was under immense pressure to explain every verse of the Quran clearly. Naik is using fallacy and creating his own science in the Quran. These are the Descriptive verses Sura Al-Kahf (18:47) And (remember) the Day We shall cause the mountains to pass away (like clouds of dust), and you will see the earth as a levelled plain, and we shall gather them all together so as to leave not one of them behind. Sura Taha (20:53) Who has made earth for you like a bed (spread out); and has opened roads (ways and paths etc.) for you therein; and has sent down water (rain) from the sky. And We have brought forth with it various kinds of vegetation. Sura Az-Zukhruf (43:10) Who has made for you the earth like a bed, and has made for you roads therein, in order that you may find your way. Sura Az-Zukhruf (43:38) Till, when (such a one) comes to Us, he says [to his Qarîn (Satan / devil companion)] "Would that between me and you were the distance of the two easts (or the east and west)" a worst (type of) companion (indeed)! Sura An-Naba (78:6) Have We not made the earth as a bed, Sura An-Naziat (79:30) And after that He spread the earth; These verses would only be applicable to a flat earth belief Sura An-Naml (27:61) Is not He (better than your gods) Who has made the earth as a fixed abode, and has placed rivers in its midst, and has placed firm mountains therein, and has set a barrier between the two seas (of salt and sweet water).Is there any ilâh (god) with Allâh? Nay, but most of them know not. Sura Al-Kahf (18:86) Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. And he found near it a people. We (Allâh) said (by inspiration): "O Dhul-Qarnain! Either you punish them, or treat them with kindness." Sura Al-Kahf (18:90) Until, when he came to the rising place of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We (Allâh) had provided no shelter against the sun. Sura Yasin (36:38) And the sun runs on its fixed course for a term (appointed). That is the Decree of the All-Mighty, the All-Knowing. Sura Yasin (36:40) It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor does the night outstrip the day. They all float, each in an orbit. All these verses support a Flat earth model that the Quran is describing. I strongly encourage you to read these Suras in their entirety, to prove to yourself that I have not taken or used any verse out of context. If you feel that I have missed any verses which describe or support a spherical model, please provide me the verses from the Quran. Any imaginations not supported by a verse from the Quran will NOT be acceptable.
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