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Those who deny the hadith of the prophet saww are called hadith rejectors . They consider normally quran sufficient alone to follow for the religion without recognizing the need to follow the sunna ie sayings or actions of the prophet saww. What the other Muslims brothers consider these hadith rejectors? A muslim, hypocrite, kafir, or mis-guided etc? (Whatever is you opinion ,the evidence of it from quran or hadith may be mentioned too for information /discussion, please). Wasalam
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Salaam. I think out of most members on ShiaChat, I am probably one of the most aggressive ones when it comes to people making accusations against us, our marajae, our belief system, etc. At the same time, I have had good relations with those who seek to learn rather than preach or criticize. One such person was @Fahad Sani. A very knowledgeable sunni who spent quite a few months on ShiaChat. Him and I went back and forth on quite a few topics and he even listed me as his biggest "competitor" on ShiaChat. He started of politely for the most part but grew more and more frustrated with the knowledge and wisdom displayed by so many SC members. He went from cordial --> aggressive --> abusive to the point that he eventually got banned because his efforts to show us the 'truth' were constantly negated. That is one type of 'attack'. Then there is a type of attack from within. This is where a person claims to be a shia but questions everything shias do in the name of reform but the real attacks are on our beliefs, our marajae, our adherence to the Ahlulbayt. This is an example of one such person who was monitoring SC for 5 years (admitted himself) and finally made an account and first post in Sept 2017: I became suspicious of him when he said he learned a lot from a random shia internet blogger who just happened to live in the Middle East (UAE I think). Recommendation against Shias for celebrating the birth of Imam Ali vs that of the Prophet Comment on a post against Khums and vaguely accused our marajae of corruption. Made another against shias who may fall into the category of either loving Imam Ali (as) too much or too little A topic posed as a question on whether the Prophet is part of his Ahlul Bayt or outside of it Another topic on “Ya Ali Madad” as salutation by some shias. A topic on Ghadeer questioning why Shias celebrate Imam Ali (as) succession as opposed to the completion of the Prophet’s (saw) mission. Topic questioning shias whether Imams were killed or not because of their “unlimited knowledge” While it seems like he is trying to reform shias, when you look closely he is actually attacking our belief in Imamah and trying to drive a wedge between the Prophet (saw) and the Imams (as). Conceptually, his topics may make sense but peel the layers and one can easily realize the game being played. This became most apparent on the last topic created where once again he was questioning shias but really attacking the Imams, their martyrdom and the knowledge bestowed upon them by Allah. I would urge all my SC brothers and sisters to be very aware of the games being played and to thwart the fitna as soon as it arises because most wildfires start with a small spark.
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مراجع تقلید-Maraj'i First and foremost I would like to introduce myself. I am Althaqalayn12 a Jaffary twelver shia muslim who is a researcher and inshallah will join a hawza soon. Also I would like to inform you that on top of having enemies from outside the followers of Ahlul Bayt a.s. like the wahabis who spread lies and fitna, we have enemies from the inside who are creating fitna. Second of all, our enemies found a way to try to penetrate us from the inside by criticizing our maraj'i which unfortunately is happening and we must be aware of it. Among the Shia there are those who are misguided, who listen to the lies of our enemies and follow blindly and criticize our maraj'i which is funny, because those who criticize our maraji, have not an ATOM of knowledge from the knowledge that our fuqaha know. Also, those who criticize our Maraj'i can not even READ the Quran correctly which is the simplest thing you can do, not understand, but not even READ. Third of all, a marja (مرجع) is a faqeeh (scholar) who spends 15+ years of his life studying in a hawza (Shiite religious school) and learn the sharia and know what's HALAL and HARAM after reading 30+ books. Also our beloved infallible imams a.s. used to have students who wrote down their teachings which not many of us have read. In return, when we have problems that we want figured out and know about haram and halal such as asking HOW TO DO MUTA or ask questions about Tattoos etc. It's like going to a doctor, but Fuqahaa and maraj'i are the doctors of religion. Also Allah told us about fuqahaa in the Quran =========================================================================================================================================== بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم وَمَا كَانَ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ لِيَنْفِرُوا كَافَّةً فَلَوْلا نَفَرَ مِنْ كُلِّ فِرْقَةٍ مِنْهُمْ طَائِفَةٌ لِيَتَفَقَّهُوا فِي الدِّينِ وَلِيُنْذِرُوا قَوْمَهُمْ صدق الله العلي العظيم -->Why, then, does not a single person from every group from them (mumineen) make a group that become fuqaha in the deen and inform their followers? <-- ATTAWBA 122 ===========================================================================================================================================Clearly talks about how one person from each group of deen should become a faqeeh who tells us how the deen works.
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"Fitna" is worse than killing :shaytan: :shaytan: :shaytan: (Video)
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(salam) Once Zeid Ebne Arqam came to Moavieh and saw Amro Aas sitting beside him. He sat between them. Amro Aas told him: Did you not find any other place as you intervened us? Zeid replied: In one of the battles in which both of you accompanied Prophet (s.a.), he worried when looking at you. On the second and third day, he looked at you for a longer period. On the third day, he said: «ÅÐÇ ÑÃíÊã ãÚÇæíÉ æÚãÑæ Èä ÇáÚÇÕ ãÌÊãÚóíäö ÝÝÑöøÞæÇ ÈíäåãÇ¡ ÝÅäøåãÇ áä íÌÊãÚÇ Úáì ÎíÑ» Whenever you saw Moavieh and Amro Ebne Aas besides each other, intervene between them, because these two do not gather each other for a good deed. Ebne Mazahem has narrated the story in the book, æÞÚå ÕÝíä, so. Please refer also to the book, ÇáÚÞÏ ÇáÝÑíÏ by Ebne Abde Rabbeh too. 2, 3 1- æÞÚå ÕÝíä: 112 (page 218) 2- ÇáÞÏ ÇáÝÑíÏ 2:290 (145/4) 3- Shafiei Mazandarani/a general extract from Alghadir, page 172
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