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*I created this post in thinkers discourse, but its not approved yet so started here instead, mods can move later if they feel like it. First of All, I am no evolutionist in any political sense, but yes i have faith in science and i have faith that all claims of scientists are correct. But now i am really intrigued by reading verses of Quran and I need your guidance and views whether I am interpreting things correctly. 1st, I always thought what is wrong with accepting evolution, it just happens as scientists claims it to be but except Human, who was created, or may be we understand createdness wrong, we were just another better looking ape with much less abilities, and with a magic God gave us "Ashraf Ul Makhlooqat" Level BrAIN. Another view to support above argument is, that in this world only we are intelligent as per our definition of intelligence. There are many brilliant dogs and apes, some of them even learned alphabets, but none of them evolved into an equally or more powerful Mind, which again proof the Words of Quran that we are indeed ASHRAF AL MAKHLOOQAT. Creationist already find it hard to digest the kind of CHANCE Atheist say we are, and then by chance we also have the mind of no other specie (unless Douglas Adams was right in favor of Dolphins) But that is a lesser argument. I read few verses and its looks like Quran itself tells us that we are evolved, though in wiki article, 4 of those verses were put in favour of CREATEDNESS of MAN, & 1 was listed as in favour of Evolution. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_views_on_evolution#The_creation_of_man_in_the_Quran 1) "It is He who has created you out of clay" (Surah 6:2), 2) "It was He who brought you into being from the earth..." (11:61), 3) "We first created you from dust, then from a sperm drop, then from clotted blood, then a lump of flesh, both shaped and unshaped, so that We might manifest to you [Our power]" (22:5), 4) "He originated the creation of man from clay, then He made his progeny from an extract of a humble fluid" (32:7-8) 5) "...and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe?"(21:30) Now Guys here my understanding If i didn't understood english wrong here, RED are Supporting Human Createdness and GREEN supports Human was evolved. Now verse 4 clearly indicate GOD first created us from CLAY, then men developed their generations with we know how Also verse 3 indicates > Clay + Process of Pregnancy We all know how pregnancy works and its indicated in Quran. But why don't we consider CLAY as evolution??? I mean it was Big Bang > A Perfect Earth > Cooled Down to Water + Life + Single Cell Organisms from water and Sand or whatever. It needed water but founding constituent of cell could have been clay or sand or anything > eventually multi cells >>>>> Perfect specie of animals and humans with minds and beautiful auto focusing eyes etc So Whats the hurdle here???? I know one hurdle, in one of the verse God says [ Allah ] said, "O Iblees, what prevented you from prostrating to that which I created with My hands? Were you arrogant [then], or were you [already] among the haughty?" 38:75 This verse indicates that God indeed made humans with hands But Evolution is 19th century issue Gods Beatific vision is 11th century issue Mutazilla didn't believed in Gods beatific vision, asharies did Sunni Sufi also have all kinds of views Wahabi probably believe in Beatific vision while if i am not wrong Shias donot believe as such So if God has no hand, then obviously that whole thing is an allegory. In that sense Quran indicated 1400 years ago how Living things were made from clay, which evolution explained much later. What i am missing here, where is my reasoning wrong???? -
(bismillah) In the name of Allah, the beneficent, the most merciful. May He ward misconceptions from our souls and help us attain certainty. ßóÊóÈó Úóáóì äóÝúÓöåö ÇáÑóøÍúãóÉó He has decreed upon Himself Mercy. (6-12) The question is based upon the attribute of Mercy. It is commonly known that Allah has created humanity out of His Mercy. Therefore, Since we say Allah has created everything out of His Mercy, I raise two questions: 1) Is the attribute of Mercy created by Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì? 2) If it is a creation, why did Allah allow it to partake in His actions? i.e. Does Mercy govern Allah or does Allah govern Mercy? If Allah governs Mercy, then Allah does not need to create because of "His Mercy." If Mercy governs Allah, then there is a flaw in our understanding, which needs immediate attention, of the Most High, Most Merciful. Please, any opinions or elaborations are greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. (wasalam)
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