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Read the Reddit comments to understand what the thread was about, since the post has since been deleted. ....................................................................................... I'm so tired of the utterly nonsensical and VERY COMMON Sunni notion of 'I am happy to seek unity with Shias as long as they don't curse/insult/abuse any Sahaba, and especially NOT Aisha, Abu Bakr, Omar, Uthman. Firstly, any Shia claim regarding the sahabi that happens to go against the Sunni narrative is considered insulting. Secondly, and more importantly, is that the same notion is true for Shias... You are insulting the Ahlul Bayt by not accepting them as divinely appointed leaders of Allah, and infallible individuals, and perfect preservers of the religion of Islam, and a high means of seeking closeness to Allah (intercession). Not only are you insulting revered Shia figures by not following them, you are commiting MAJOR shirk by giving a false attribute to Allah, by saying that Allah has not always appointed an infallible leader on this Earth, and that there currently isn't an infallible leader. Furthermore, the real kicker is that plenty of revered Shia figures, such as Abu Talib (رضي الله عنه), are considered kuffar by Sunnis. Is this not insulting? So, how can we Shias unite with Sunnis based on their own fallacious logic? Shias are the minority, and Sunnis are the majority. It makes Sunnis think that they are Orthodox and that they have to unite with Heterodox for political and humanitarian reasons, and that Shias must make [ridiculous] compromises. Shias are far more receptive to the unity message, because we actually understand Sunni Islam, and can see the commonalities. We understand that we can't make Sunnis compromise on their beliefs. Simply by being the minority within Islam, by nature we Shias already understand Sunni beliefs, whereas Sunnis have a basic strawman understanding of Shia beliefs... which is natural, considering that they are the majority. Anyways, the point of my post is the following: Let's compile a list of revered Shia figures that are not given their proper status by Sunnis, according to Shia Islam... with an explanation given. ...This is to show that we Shias and Sunnis can unite, but we cannot unite upon revered figures and imamah. ...This will also serve as a way of showing Sunnis that this argument of theirs makes no sense. Another important question we may ask is "What about commonly revered figures like Imam Ali (عليه السلام) who is given different status in both sects? Can we unite upon Imam Ali (عليه السلام)?" ...a common Sunni criticism of political unity is that "Ali ibn Abi Talib (رضي الله عنه) is given an improper status in Shia religion because they call upon him... tawassul (intercession) of the 'dead' is Shirk! So there is absolutely no room for unity since we can't even agree on the status of the sahabi" [yes, I am aware that the Imams (عليه السلام) are still alive, but Sunnis don't believe this...] I would love to hear your thoughts. Wassalam. JazakAllah Khair. Fi sabilillah.
SalamunAliekum, I (along with some of my friends) am planning to start a website about the magnificent personality of Ali Ibn Abi Talib (A.S). Although, we are planning to keep it humanitarian instead of religious. We ought to show Imam Ali as a warrior, a scientist, a judge, a friend, a husband, a father, a son, a supporter, a leader; in short as a great man, instead of an imam or a religious personality (which he undoubtedly is). The idea behind keeping it this way is that people from all religions, casts, colors, creeds, races should be able to relate to him and see him as their role model. At this point, we are in a phase of designing our website and building our database for the content. We need some good (authentic) sources for anything and everything that relates to Imam Ali (A.S). Be it his quotes, stories from his life, his lifestyle, his spirituality, history of the people who followed him, loved him, obeyed him, praised him. ANYTHING that relates to him. We need that. So I ask for all your help. Please help us gather some material so that we can at least kick start this site of ours, with something instead of nothing. If you have anything like: 1. Links of the websites where we can get material from. 2. Any blog that might be worth reading. 3. Name of the books that can shine some light on his (A.S) life. 4. Any sources where we can find Hi-res images of his shrine. 5. Short stories from his life are much needed. (THIS IS ESPECIALLY NEEDED). 6. Anything else that you think might be of use. Plus, if any of you wants to help in any way. Feel free to get in touch. More people, more minds, more thoughts are always better. P.S. We already have hundreds of his sayings from authentic sources in good designed way, so if that can be of any help to anyone. We would be glad to share. Wassalam.
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