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Read the Reddit comments to understand what the thread was about, since the post has since been deleted. ....................................................................................... I'm so tired of the utterly nonsensical and VERY COMMON Sunni notion of 'I am happy to seek unity with Shias as long as they don't curse/insult/abuse any Sahaba, and especially NOT Aisha, Abu Bakr, Omar, Uthman. Firstly, any Shia claim regarding the sahabi that happens to go against the Sunni narrative is considered insulting. Secondly, and more importantly, is that the same notion is true for Shias... You are insulting the Ahlul Bayt by not accepting them as divinely appointed leaders of Allah, and infallible individuals, and perfect preservers of the religion of Islam, and a high means of seeking closeness to Allah (intercession). Not only are you insulting revered Shia figures by not following them, you are commiting MAJOR shirk by giving a false attribute to Allah, by saying that Allah has not always appointed an infallible leader on this Earth, and that there currently isn't an infallible leader. Furthermore, the real kicker is that plenty of revered Shia figures, such as Abu Talib (رضي الله عنه), are considered kuffar by Sunnis. Is this not insulting? So, how can we Shias unite with Sunnis based on their own fallacious logic? Shias are the minority, and Sunnis are the majority. It makes Sunnis think that they are Orthodox and that they have to unite with Heterodox for political and humanitarian reasons, and that Shias must make [ridiculous] compromises. Shias are far more receptive to the unity message, because we actually understand Sunni Islam, and can see the commonalities. We understand that we can't make Sunnis compromise on their beliefs. Simply by being the minority within Islam, by nature we Shias already understand Sunni beliefs, whereas Sunnis have a basic strawman understanding of Shia beliefs... which is natural, considering that they are the majority. Anyways, the point of my post is the following: Let's compile a list of revered Shia figures that are not given their proper status by Sunnis, according to Shia Islam... with an explanation given. ...This is to show that we Shias and Sunnis can unite, but we cannot unite upon revered figures and imamah. ...This will also serve as a way of showing Sunnis that this argument of theirs makes no sense. Another important question we may ask is "What about commonly revered figures like Imam Ali (عليه السلام) who is given different status in both sects? Can we unite upon Imam Ali (عليه السلام)?" ...a common Sunni criticism of political unity is that "Ali ibn Abi Talib (رضي الله عنه) is given an improper status in Shia religion because they call upon him... tawassul (intercession) of the 'dead' is Shirk! So there is absolutely no room for unity since we can't even agree on the status of the sahabi" [yes, I am aware that the Imams (عليه السلام) are still alive, but Sunnis don't believe this...] I would love to hear your thoughts. Wassalam. JazakAllah Khair. Fi sabilillah.
We all know that there were many people at the time of Ahlebait a.s who were ghaali (exaggerators) who exalted Ahlebait a.s on the name of their love for them. I think following narrations are from such type of people. Because regardless of their authenticity they are clearly against the explicit commands of Allah swt in Quran. Below are the few examples. And they all are taken from this thread. Akhbari Shias accept and mention these narrations and other similar ones in their majalis, gatherings, books etc. Here I want to know, do Usuli Shias (majority of shia chatters) also accept such narrations in merits of Ahlebait a.s.? 1. "Imam Ali (a.s) was asked about the knowledge of the prophet (pbuh). Imam Ali (a.s) said: The prophet (pbuh) had the knowledge of all the prophets (a.s), and he had the knowledge of what has occured (in the past) and what will occur till the day of judgement. Then Imam Ali (a.s) said I swear by the on who conrols my life that I have the knowledge of the prophet (pbuh) and what will has occured (in the past) and what will occur between me and the hour (i.e day of judgment) ". Reference: Basa'er Adarajat volume 1 page 262 2. Imam Al-Hadi (a.s) said: The only reason why Allah regarded Nabi Abrahem (a.s) as his khalel (beloved friend), was due to the excess amount of Salwat he sent upon Muhammed (pbuh) and his Ahlu Al-Bayt (a.s). Reference: Ilull Ashara'e volume 1, ch #32 hadith #3 3. Holy Prophet (pbuh) said to Ali (a.s): "If all the oceans were ink, all the trees were pens, and all human beings were writers and all the Jinn maintained the records, even then, O Abu'l-Hasan! Your virtues could not be numbered." Reference: One hundred virtues for Imam Ali (a.s) #100 4. A number of our people has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad from Ali ibn al-Hakam from al-Muthanna al-Hannat from abu Basir who has said the following. "Once I went to see abu Ja‘far (a.s.) and asked him, "Are you the heirs of the Messenger of Allah?" He said, "Yes, we are his heirs." I then asked, "Was the Messenger of Allah the heir of the prophets and knew all that they knew?" He said to me, "Yes, it is true." I then asked, "Do you have the power to bring the dead back to life and cure the lepers, and the blind?" He said, "Yes, we do have such powers by the permission of Allah." The he said to me, "Come closer to me, O abu Muhammad." I went closer to him and he rubbed my face and my eyes and saw the sun, the skies, the earth, the houses and all things in the town. Then he said to me, "Do you like to live this way and will have what others have and be responsible for whatever they will be held responsible on the Day of Judgment or like to live as before and will have paradise purely?" I said, "I would like to live as I lived before." He rubbed my eyes and I found myself as before." The narrator has said that he told it to ibn abu ‘Umayr who said, "I testify that this is true just as the day is true." Reference: Al-Kafi, vol 1, Page 470. 5. Ali ibn Ibrahim has narrated from his father from ‘Abd al-‘Aziz ibn al-Muhtadi from ‘Adallah ibn Jundab to who Imam al-Rida (a.s.) wrote the following. "Thereafter, (thanking Allah) Muhammad (s.a.) was the trustee of Allah for His creatures. When he was taken away from this world we, Ahl al-Bayt inherited him, thus, we are the trustees of Allah over His earth. With us is the knowledge of the sufferings, the death, the genealogy of the Arabs and the birth of Islam. We know the man when we see him in the truth of faith or hypocrisy. Our followers (Shi‘a) are listed (with us) by their names and the names of their fathers. Allah has established a covenant with them and with us. They land wherever we would do so and enter wherever we would enter. There is no besides us and our followers as living the Islamic culture. We are the noble saviors and the descendents of the prophets and of the children of the successors of the prophets. We the ones to whom the book of Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High, has come exclusively. We, of all people, have the first priority (closeness) to the book of Allah. We, of all people, have the first priority (closeness) to the Messenger of Allah. For us He formed His religion. Reference: Al-Kafi, vol 1, Page 224. 6. According to traditions attributed to the 5th and 6th Imams the Prophets and Imams are endowed with 5 spirits. 1) the holy spirit (Ruh al-Quds) who obtains knowledge for them and because of whom they can carry the repository of prophesy 2) the spirit of faith (Ruh al-Iman) through which they have faith, fear of the Lord and justice 3) the spirit of strength (ruh al-quwwa) through which they can expend effort in obedience to Allah 4) the spirit of longing (ruh al-shawah) through which they desire to serve Allah and satisfy their natural needs 5) the spirit of movement (ruh al-madraj) or the spirit of life (ruh al-hayat) which allows them to move Reference: Basair section 9 ch. 14 pp. 445-50, al-Kulayni Usul volume 2 pp 15-16 These types of narrations are clearly in contradiction to Quran. Say, [O Muhammad], "Invoke those you claim [as deities] besides Allah ." They do not possess an atom's weight [of ability] in the heavens or on the earth, and they do not have therein any partnership [with Him], nor is there for Him from among them any assistant. [34:22] And intercession does not benefit with Him except for one whom He permits. [And those wait] until, when terror is removed from their hearts, they will say [to one another], "What has your Lord said?" They will say, "The truth." And He is the Most High, the Grand. [34:23] And to many other verses.
Asalamunalaikum...please can anyone help me...i want to become a good muslim ..how can i....other than namaz ..roza..quran...1)everyone tells to follow sunnah of prophet but where can i find it ??? 2)i want to read about life and sayingd of ahlul bait..wherr to find it..any books i can downloaf or links 3)like we have nahjulbalaga for saying of imam ali..what books are for prophet anf other masomeen ..please help
Salamun A'laykum Here is my attempt at poetry. This is probably my second time writing a poem, so please don't judge me :donno: Midnight comes along and wakes up the sleeping soul Who was dreaming of his beloved without any control Without any tiredness he wakes up with incitement While his feelings show signs of utter excitement He rushes toward the sink to make ablution So he can purify his body before the ascension He sets up his prayer rug and begins to utter words As his body breaks into pieces and his flesh turns into birds He begins to fly toward the sky high above To meet his beloved and to confess his love As he reaches the highest level of heaven He begins to feel his sins being forgiven After an hour of meeting the most High He ascends down to earth with a wish to die The lover then supplicates to his love with a yearn To protect Al-Mahdi and hasten his return He then remembers Imam Hussain And beats his chest with sorrow and pain After hours of Munajat and supplications To get rid of his desires and all of his addictions He gets up to solute the prophet and his family And continues the day with faith and certainty
(bismillah) Ya Ali Madad La'nat on the enemies of Ahlulbait Rahbar Faqat Khameneist Salamun Alaykum. I will make a (hopefully) quick rant here. My goal is to awaken a few brothers and sisters who have fallen into a serious trap. What is up with you oh brothers and sisters?! Do you know what happened to our Ahlulbait? Do you know how much of torture and pain they suffered?! All for what? So we can simply laugh and curse at their enemies and make jokes about them?! Suppose someone kills you father, are you going to laugh and curse and make jokes about your father's killer?! NO! You will feel the sorrow and the pain and every time you remember your father's killer you will weep! Why don't we treat the Ahlulbait the way we treat our own family members? Don't they have higher authority over us then we have over ourselves? HOW DARE we make jokes about the KILLERS of our Ahlulbait and laugh as if nothing happened?! DID THE AHLULBAIT SUFFER FOR NOTHING?! NO INDEED!! They were tortured, suffered, and murdered ALL in the name of saving Islam. When we turn around and start using foul languages and cursing their enemies by using the worst language possible, do you think the Ahlulbait are happy with us? Is this truly the love we show to our Ahlulbait, by using disgusting language to refer to their killers?! It is very shocking when I hear a few people going so far into saying the F words when referring to the enemies of Ahlulbait! DO YOU KNOW WHAT LA'NAT IS?! It is a dua which asks god to remove his mercy from the killers of Ahlulbait! THERE IS NO HADITHS WHICH THE AHLULBAIT ASK US TO CURSE, MOCK, AND LAUGH AT THEIR ENEMIES! WHY DO WE DO THAT?! IF we truly want to follow the Ahlulbait, and if we truly hate their enemies, we should show our love to the Ahlulbait by using them as guides. We need to follow them as role models... Simply hating their enemies and loving them for the sake of it won't get us ANYWHERE. The kulafa and the oppressors of ahlulbait also claimed to love them!! Please remember this in our gatherings and special occasions, especially in Eid-e-zahra. It is unfortunate that people laugh with one another calling names [to the 3 people] without realizing how much destruction these people did to Islam. If anything, we should MOURN when we remember them! La'nat is something serious, its worst than simply cursing people!
salam aleykum there is this question that has been bothering me for quiet a long time. how did the ahlul bait deal with the loss or death of a loved one? how did they stop the pain etc etc... I mean we are all going to lose or have lost our parents at some point in our lives. Not just parents but a sibling or a spouse or whomever we think is the close to us. how do we deal with it? how do we deal with it so it is less painful, less stressful, etc.. and what is the islamic way of dealing with such a situation? thank you
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