Search the Community

I know its a shia chat forum, but have seen many syeds related threads here. What is your take on people claiming they are Naqvi/Bokhari Syeds with immediate grandfathers migrated from Iran (places close by). I am not able to find any sources that link them to Iran apart from that a lot naqvi syeds still reside in Iran. Also in Pakistan Naqvi and Bokhari syeds are both the same, is that true? Also if bokhari syeds were from Bokhara how come they claim their grandfathers were from Iran?

Reuters FollowView Profile Pakistan's Musharraf, military ruler who allied with the U.S. and promoted moderate Islam Story by Reuters • 8h ago 1565 Comments ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Pervez Musharraf, the four-star general who ruled Pakistan for nearly a decade after seizing power in a bloodless coup in 1999, oversaw rapid economic growth and attempted to usher in socially liberal values in the conservative Muslim country. Pakistan's former President, Pervez Musharraf, addresses his supporters after his arrival from Dubai at Jinnah International airport in Karachi© Thomson Reuters Musharraf, 79, died in hospital after a long illness after spending years in self-imposed exile, Pakistan media reported on Sunday. He enjoyed strong support for many years, his greatest threat al Qaeda and other militant Islamists who tried to kill him at least three times. But his heavy-handed use of the military to quell dissent as well as his continued backing of the United States in its fight against al Qaeda and the Afghan Taliban ultimately led to his downfall. Born in New Delhi in 1943, Musharraf was four years old when his parents joined the mass exodus by Muslims to the newly created state of Pakistan. His father served in the foreign ministry, while his mother was a teacher and the family subscribed to a moderate, tolerant brand of Islam. He joined the army at the age of 18, and went on to lead an elite commando unit before rising to become its chief. He took power by ousting the then prime minister, Nawaz Sharif, who had tried to sack him for greenlighting an operation to invade Indian-held areas of Kashmir, bringing Pakistan and India to the brink of war. A television screen displays the news after Pakistani court sentenced former military ruler Pervez Musharraf to death on charges of high treason and subverting the constitution, at a shop in Karachi© Thomson Reuters In his early years in government, Musharraf won plaudits internationally for his reformist efforts, pushing through legislation to protect the rights of women and allowing private news channels to operate for the first time. His penchant for cigars and imported whisky and his calls for Muslims to adopt a lifestyle of "enlightened moderation" increased his appeal in the West in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks in the United States. He became one of Washington’s most important allies after the attacks, allowing U.S. forces to operate armed drones from secret bases on Pakistani soil that killed thousands and ordering domestic troops into the country’s lawless tribal areas along the Afghanistan frontier for the first time Pakistan’s history. That helped legitimise his rule overseas but also helped plunge Pakistan into a bloody war against local extremist militant groups. Related video: Breaking News | Former Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf No More | English News Latest Updates (Times Now) Breaking News | Former Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf No More | English News Latest Updates In a 2006 memoir, he took credit for saving Pakistan from American wrath saying the country had been warned it needed to be “prepared to be bombed back to the Stone Age” if it did not ally itself with Washington. Former Pakistani President Musharraf arrives before his speech, in the commercial centre Karachi, Dubai© Thomson Reuters Musharraf also successfully lobbied then-President George W. Bush to pour money into the Pakistani military. Still, the army's allegiances were never unambiguous: its powerful intelligence services cut deals with the Taliban and al Qaeda, and bolstered an insurgency fighting U.S. troops in Afghanistan. To match Interview PAKISTAN-MUSHARRAF© Thomson Reuters In other areas of foreign policy, Musharraf attempted to normalise relations between New Delhi and Islamabad. At a regional summit in 2002, less than three years after launching the military operation against India, Musharraf shocked the world when, after finishing a speech, he suddenly moved towards Indian Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee to shake hands and offered to talk peace. Analysts say the issue of Kashmir – which remains the most potent point of contention between India and Pakistan – was close to being solved during the Musharraf era. But the peace process was derailed soon after his rule. Under Musharraf, foreign investment flourished and Pakistan saw annual economic growth of as much as 7.5% - which remains the highest level in nearly three decades, according to World Bank data. The later years of his presidency were, however overshadowed, by his increasingly authoritarian rule. In 2006, Musharraf ordered military action that killed a tribal head from the province Balochistan, laying the foundations of an armed insurgency that rages to this day. The next year, more than a hundred students calling for the imposition of Sharia law were killed after Musharraf shunned negotiations and ordered troops to storm a mosque in Islamabad. That led to the birth of a new militant group, Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan, which has since killed tens of thousands in suicide bombings and brazen assaults. Later in 2007, a suicide attack that assassinated opposition leader Benazir Bhutto, triggered waves of violence. His efforts to strong arm the judiciary also led to protests and a besieged Musharraf postponed elections and declared a state of emergency. In 2008, the country's first democratic elections in 11 years were held. Musharraf's party lost and facing impeachment by parliament he resigned the presidency and fled to London. He returned to Pakistan in 2013 to run for a seat in parliament but was immediately disqualified. He was allowed to leave for Dubai in 2016. In 2019, a court sentenced him to death in absentia for the 2007 imposition of emergency rule but the verdict was later overturned. (Reporting by Islamabad bureau; Editing by Edwina Gibbs)

Why are more Pakistani women choosing to divorce? (msn.com)

Bismillah, salaam. There was an attack on a Imam Bargah in Peshawar, Pakistan, during Jumu'ah prayers. 30 martyred, over 50 injured. Please pray for the maghfirah of the martyred, well-being and patience for the injured and afflicted families, and of course for the swift advent of our Imam a.j.t.f (عليه السلام) so the enemies of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), His Messenger (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم), and His Messenger's Progeny (عليه السلام) may be brought to 'Adl. Wasalaam.

I read an Articalsome where, when shia women in pakistan resort to prostitution and they have mutah brothals, is this trueor propaganda.

https://www.disinfo.eu/publications/indian-chronicles-deep-dive-into-a-15-year-operation-targeting-the-eu-and-un-to-serve-indian-interests What are your thoughts about this? I am particularly annoyed because both of these things affect me, propaganda against Pakistan, and targeting of the EU.

Salam, Anybody who could add knowledge to the title, naming who and how many ashaab of Prophet Muhammad s.a.w.w travelled to the sub continent? Wasalam

I made a video recently on how the current content of education material plays a role in the oppression of Shi'a Muslims. I posted the video in General Islamic Discussion before, but just now realised that since it is so focused on Pakistani education, I should post it here. JazakAllah

In the name of Allah, I have made a video touching upon my country's education system and how it effectively contributes to Shi'a oppression. JazakAllah

https://youtu.be/fwTB9FNtbos

اے ظالموں لعنت صرف مجھ سے ہی نہیں ماں باپ سے نہیں صرف عزیر سے نہیں جن پر کرب و بلا لائے، کل کائنات سے بے شمار کہ خالق نے خود کہا یہ ہے سزائے ظالمین

salaam is there any shakhi shias on this forum or idoes any body know anhy in india or pakistan or in iraq are they sufi like?

Assalam o Alaikum In the name of Allah most high. I have questions about, requirements for men entering howza. 1. What kind of requirements are there when it comes to your appearance like hair, clothes and style. 2. Should you as a man shave your head off before traveling to any hawza in Asia? 3. Should you grow beard?

Asalam O Alaikum! I am from Pakistan. I have one my fsc Inter. I want to take admission in hawza ilmiya Najaf, I m not getting which institute in Pakistan will lead towards hawza. Please help how can I get admission there. It will be a great help.

Salam, I am a very old visitor ShiaChat. This is my very first post here with this ID because of the type of Topic and because of needing help. I have been living overseas for a decade and now moved to Pakistan to make my religion stronger. One thing that is bothering me is the companionship of the opposite sex. I’d like to tell you I am a new convert to Shia from Sunni and my family disowned me and blocked me from family acitivities on that ground, but mashallah say by the grace of Allah, I have a high paying job and so it was easy to move on but feel lonely, left out and often wanders around. I need companionship, love as all of us. I don’t want to indulge in anything wrong such as prostitution or adultery or porn and after much through thinking and trying to be as close to the religion as possible I understand that a Mutah Nikkah or temporary marriage is my only solution. I am desperatly seeking your help and guidance. I am looking for advice on how to find such proposal. Society in Pakistan has become very hyper sexualize to the point that temporary nikkah is the best solution. I have thought about some ways, I thought about giving an ad in the local Newspaper here, but then do not know the legal repercussion that may come with it. I searched online and found only a few posts regarding this that gave me no help, I even approached marriage agencies in Lahore but it like most of them do not even cater to Shia let alone mutahnikkah. Please help and advice. I feel lonely, desperate and often times vulnerable. I do not want to go on the path of Shaitan and carry illicit activities (which has become all too common in Pakistan). Please let me know if you know A) Which local newspaper I should post this ad to B) Which marriage agency will work best for me C) Any family that is in need of such

Hi, if someone could please translate this noha for me, I would really appreciate it. I love this noha so much but struggle to fully understand everything that is said. It is called Taqseer te nai koi syed di https://youtu.be/kVosTwtDSGQ

Salam. I’m being forced to have a haram walima. The walima will not be partitioned or segregated and this is a obviously a big issue. I’m the groom and I’m feeling trapped. On the one hand, the right thing to do is not attend but on the other hand I will be cutting off my parents and obviously any family we’ve invited. My wife is on my side obviously but she has decided to be quiet now as she does not want anymore issues. I got into a fight with my parents over this and here I am on the night of qadr feeling like none of my amaal mean anything because I’m upset with them. I’m trying very hard to forgive them but how can I when I’m being forced into a haram situation. It would be one thing if they did something in the past but this is something they’re planning to do. The whole idea of segregating by gender is so “strange” to them since all Pakistani weddings are usually mixed. It’s also about saving face for all the guests. I feel I can’t do anything. How do I cope? Will I be liable on the day of judgment for being part of this? Do I continue to fight this or shut up so my family can have “peace”? I wish I had access to a maulana for this issue but I have to resort to this forum.

Salam Aleykum, I am a 23 year old girl who live in the UK. I graduated university this year and among other things met a man that I can finally see as my future husband, I am completely and utterly in love with him because he was able to put a smile on my face in a period nobody else could. For my studies I relocated to London alone as a result I stayed here for nearly five years away from my family, meeting occasionally a few times a year. Alhamdullah I am successful in my career and was successful in my studies and I am from a sort of open-minded family hence, the did not mind me staying here to see my future although I am alone and I do feel very lonely at times but they have never pressured me for marriage and I was not ready. However, this has now changed and I am most certain about the guy I have met, he is Shia Muslim from a good family treats me like I deserve but the only issue would be that he is not Arab, like myself. I am from Iraq and he is from Pakistan and this is the only difference between me and him. I tried to speak to my mum over the phone just telling her that I am in love and want to get married, she told me off immediately and basically in very simple words told me that SHE will NEVER approve no matter what and that if I desperately wanted to go ahead with the marriage I am more than welcome to but she did not want anything to do with me past that. Now he reasons my mum is furious is that I brought a guy from a completely different country meaning he has different cultures and traditions but also most importantly he will have a MAJOR language barrier with my family as there is NO language in common whatsoever. But to me this isn't an issue body language and eye contact can say more than verbal words. I want my parents approval please advice me, help me, I do not want to get married without their consent. How can I convince my father who has never missed a prayer or a day of fasting that rejecting this man because he is not arab is so haram. How can I convince him. If you have had similiar experience please advice.

Israel Vows to create two more occupied lands Yemen and Afghanistan are the bulls eye.

[POLL] Pakistani General Elections 2018

Asalam o Alaikum, I'm from Norway and 28 years old, I want to become a Shia scholar and study in Hawza Pakistan. Are there any, good hawzas in Pakistan? Best regards Qasim

السَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ اللهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ (May Allah Shower His Mercy, Peace & Blessings upon You All) I hope My Shia Muslim Brothers and Shia Muslim Sisters are Living a Good Life by The Grace of Allah. . Alhamdulillah. I would like to know any Information about Turkic (Don't get confused with Turkey),Mongol Shias. And Persian Speaking Turk-o-Mongol Shias. Let me tell you My Lineage first: My Shia Muslim Brothers, I am actually a descendant from a Chagatayid Mughal family of Pakistan. My family lineage traces back to the Turk-O-Mongol Warriors of Genghis Khan -> Chagatai Khan -> Ameer Timur and then Mughal Emperors. As far as I know and I am told, My Ancestors were Sufi Sunnis who followed Hanafi Madhab and Naqshbandi Sufi Chain (and we are still Hanafis to this day). Persian was Mother tongue for centuries. My Grandparents used to speak Persian and my father knew some Persian because of my Grandparents. I know nothing or very little about Persian because of Surroundings. My Family uses Khan, Shah, Chughtai & Changezi as their Surnames. My Ancestors were Weapon Makers and also fought Battles for Mongol Kings. Majority Family lineages in Pakistan are Indian and Afghan. Turk and Mongol families are very very few and rare. If there is any Brother from Subcontinent here who is from Turko-Mongol Lineage and a Shia, then I would like to meet my Cousin . So My question is : Are there any Central Asian Turkic Shia Empires and Mongol Shia Empires? Most Turk and Mongol Empires I find on the Internet are Sunni Hanafi, Not Shia. I am Curious about Shia Turkic and Mongol Empires. And one more, are there any Shia Turk and Shia Mongol empires who later were Persianized or Indianized? I am Curious for Answers May Allah Reward You all for your Answers <3

Syed Mumtaz Hussain Rizvi who is an engineer by profession and a PhD student has been missing after he left home a week ago on 23rd Jan2018. All security agencies have failed to tell the family about his whereabouts. Mumtaz Rizvi remained a close aide of Dr. Mohammad Ali Naqvi founder of Imamia Students Organisation. This is yet another case of a notable Pakistasni shia being taken into illegal and undeclared custody. Around 30 Shia mourners were picked up earlier this year by law enforcers in plainclothes a few days after they returned from Karbala, Iraq. In 2016 alone more than 700 people went missing in Pakistan, most of them Shias.

Pakistan is Majority Sunni but you can find Shias in Significant number. Since it is believed that Quaid-e-Azam (Founder of Pakistan) was Ismaili Shia. But I see Wahabis and Deobandis are very much in Power. Barelvi is the only Sunni Branch which you can say is Shia Friendly but even Barelvis have lost their Control. Multan (City of Pakistan where I live) is City of Saints and filled with Shrines but people are are now thinking celebrating death anniversiry of Saints is something wastage of time. So SHOCKING point for me is Founder of Pakistan was Shia but today Wahabis are in power. It feels like in some years Pakistan will just be like Saudi Arabia.

There's a guy named ali and he's selling stones of every kind and has lot of rings..has anyone visited him and are his stones authentic not fake and does he brings turquoise from iran iraq in bulk. Anyone visited him is he selling real stones