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Do Shia sisters prefer Mutah or Permanent marriage?

A quick search of thread topics yielded the following results: 529 threads on Mutah 334 threads on Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) 56 threads on Patience 46 Threads on Akhlaq 17 threads on Piety And only 11 threads on Discipline! It certainly serves as a reminder for us to examine our priorities from time to time.

Salaam Alaykum, I have a question about morality and fairness in this situation: Say a newly wed have arguments which are always instigated by the husband's parents. When they fight, the parents go to the son and tell him what a horrible woman the wife is for fighting with him and that he should either divorce her or go and do mutah so he can find peace with other women. The husband doesnt divorce the wife but he does go and do mutah and enjoys with the women while neglecting his wife. He is not there emotionally for her and doesnt want to do anything with her - intimacy, going out, watching movies, etc. The husband brings the women to their house where he doesnt help with anything. The wife is the one who cooks and cleans and manages the house while she also goes to work. He lies to her by saying that he is at work while he goes to his women. He takes vacation time from work to spend time with the other women. She's basically being treated as a maid and a front to show the world what an honest pious man he is while he leads a double life behind the scenes. The husband's family know of this issue and are supporting him. They even know his mutah wives and encourage him to visit them with her and not with his wife to their house. What I want to know: Is this Islamically acceptable what the husband and the family are doing? Thank you.

Salam alikum, old time member of Shia community. I am moving to Iran to resettle there from the London. I want everyone's sincere advice on this new move. What seems to be the best bussiness to start there ? What seems to be the most Western country in Iran ? Is Mutah Nikkah possible in Iran and if so where can I find it and how much will the Mehr be for that ? Will it be hard for me as a British Pakistani who doesn't speak too Farsi? What are the event prices there ? Would anyone give their daughter for Mutah Nikkah to me ? And last but not least how is the Shia culture there. Thanks for reading this, and I hope you guys can Give me a better advice.

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Salam, I am a very old visitor ShiaChat. This is my very first post here with this ID because of the type of Topic and because of needing help. I have been living overseas for a decade and now moved to Pakistan to make my religion stronger. One thing that is bothering me is the companionship of the opposite sex. I’d like to tell you I am a new convert to Shia from Sunni and my family disowned me and blocked me from family acitivities on that ground, but mashallah say by the grace of Allah, I have a high paying job and so it was easy to move on but feel lonely, left out and often wanders around. I need companionship, love as all of us. I don’t want to indulge in anything wrong such as prostitution or adultery or porn and after much through thinking and trying to be as close to the religion as possible I understand that a Mutah Nikkah or temporary marriage is my only solution. I am desperatly seeking your help and guidance. I am looking for advice on how to find such proposal. Society in Pakistan has become very hyper sexualize to the point that temporary nikkah is the best solution. I have thought about some ways, I thought about giving an ad in the local Newspaper here, but then do not know the legal repercussion that may come with it. I searched online and found only a few posts regarding this that gave me no help, I even approached marriage agencies in Lahore but it like most of them do not even cater to Shia let alone mutahnikkah. Please help and advice. I feel lonely, desperate and often times vulnerable. I do not want to go on the path of Shaitan and carry illicit activities (which has become all too common in Pakistan). Please let me know if you know A) Which local newspaper I should post this ad to B) Which marriage agency will work best for me C) Any family that is in need of such

Respected All, I shall be thank full to you if anyone makes me aware of the right source of doing Mutah. I have an strong desire to make Mutah, Thanks.

Can we apply rule of mutah on married women? left by his husband more than an year and he is not taking care of her as well, no divorce file yet and I don't want any haram relation between us, she was my first love and now we want to continue our relationship. Please help with the query I am in taqleed with ayatollah khamenai

Salaam everyone, I was actually wondering about a Shi'a girls stance on marriage. I mean, I was wondering if say a Shi'a girl says her consent to the marriage 3 times to the niqah, but her niyyah isn't for it, meaning she doesn't actually want to get married to this person, does the marriage still count? If she says yes outwardly, but no niyyah inside to say yes, and doesn't want to, but is being forced to say yes? Especially in the case that the girl does not plan to have any "relations" with this person after the forced marriage anyway. Btw, for that, say if the marriage is valid, is it necessary for the girl to do acts of marriage with this person? Or if she doesn't want to she doesn't have to? I would appreciate any rulings or any information that could be found on this. Jazakallah & FiAmanAllah

Salam, dear brothers and sisters in Islam I have recently contracted a temporary marriage with a girl from Ahlul-Kitab (Catholic) she is a virgin girl and I was seeking to inquire if the marriage contract that I have done with her is valid, I hope to not God forbid have this be an invalid contract in which would lead me to disobeying Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) the permission to "date" was granted ( I was told that would be considered عرف) I explained to the girl that there will be a fixed term and I chose one year and also for the dowry I said it was like a gift and instead of providing a specified gift I just gave $20 I am not sure if she remembers that the term was for one year but I did state it clearly to her through text and as for the oath I also explained what it meant in English on text and then in person I told her to repeat after me the words in Arabic in which she complied the words were a bit broken, but understandable. The father of the girl has passed therefore the permission to “date” was given by the mother the girl knows that this is a form of marriage contract in which I stated briefly would protect her rights and honor her If this is not a valid Mutah contract how may I make it as such (the more thorough and concise answer the better) And if this is a valid Mutah contract thank you for clearing my conscience may Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) grant you all the intercession of the Prophets holy progeny I really love this girl and I hope to one day marry her if she is guided to the path of the Ahlul Bayt ((عليه السلام)) she has shown great willingness to debate and discuss religion and has told me if she is shown the truth she would adhere to it therefore I am trying fervently by the grace of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) to provide the evidences needed in substantiating Shia Islam and in rebuking any deviated beliefs posed by the Catholics and their traditions respectively Side note: the mother allows us to date and perhaps is knowledgeable over certain intimate acts that may occur in which are known to be evident between “dating teenagers” but by no means would accept or agree to any act of copulation and or most likely oral gratification and the use of the other partners hands to aid the other in reaching ecstatic relief would the use of such means of intimate acts between one another; other then the means of osculation be prohibited for the acts listed above such as oral gratification and the use of the other partners hands, aid in demolishing any deviated acts of self-gratification as the role of a Mutah contract does so evidently and respectfully through the protection of the rights of the female counterpart If this marriage is a valid one would such intimate acts be prohibited and would copulation be allowed or not We are both virgins I am 19 and she is 18 if such acts are prohibited how may I seek to make them permissible and in what way is it deemed fit to do so May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) bless you all and grant you all the intercession of the Ahlul Bayt thank you for reading and aiding this lost soul in maintaining his faith clinging on to the rope of Allah through the aid of such pious and forbearing lovers of the truth

This brother on Reddit needs help... Let's focus on the etiquette [adab] of Mutah as described by Rasulullah (S) and his Ahlul Bayt (A). Let's NOT focus on the rulings [ahkam] (we have thousands of threads on this already, we all know the rules by know, and it's not hard to figure out the rules anyway, all you have to do is check your Marja's risalah)

Salaam I have met a nice girl. We both want to get married. Everything is in place, the families have met each other and everyone is on board and we have everyones support. Only thing her father does not permit a mutah. Her parents prefer us to remain na mahram until nikah. The nikah will happen in July or August. My family are non Muslim so they are not in a position to be able to help. The girl wants to do mutah too, we both now want to become halal for each other. She has tried to convince them but now its my turn. It will be too difficult to remain na mahram for 8 months for both. I don't mean from a sexual perspective (we live in different countries), just generally because we are both getting more and more attached to each other and developing feelings. The parents argument is we have already hung out, whatsapped etc so just carry on doing that but that was different- those things were happening when we were still finding out about each other. Now the situation is different as we have reached certainty about each other, have feelings etc. I don't mind whatever conditions he wants. Its just appropriate to become halal now. What religious and practical arguments can I use to convince him? Duas

I honestly never understood why twelvers make Nikah Mutah. 7 of the eight madhabs forbid it. With only twelvers being the exception. Zaydis also forbid. We have narrations from Ali (r.a) that the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w.s) forbid mutah after Khaybar, now you can argument that Omar (r.a) enforced it as Haram, but you can't make argumentation that Abu Bakr (r.a) didn't do it and only Omar do it if you think that Abu Bakr (r.a) was wrong in a number of issues. Obs - Omar was closer to Ali.

Salam I don't know if you can do mutah over the internet. I have trouble in finding a fatwa on it. Jazakullah

Hello, I just want to give a brief background on my past situation and then my current situation. Can you please help me by telling me the truth backed with sources if it is halal for me to do this? Thank you I was proposed to by a man (he is Shia) who I know to be extremely respectful, hard-working and kind (which is very hard to find in general and especially in our society to be honest). However, my family prevented and forbade me from marrying him for one reason only- and that is his nationality. In our country, nationality is as important as the sect (due to culture/traditions etc.) and I had too much respect for my parents to disobey them and I know in Islam disobedience to parents is haram. I also didn't have the heart to hurt my mother even though I have never wanted anything as badly as to get married to that specific person. Please note that I did not do anything haram with this man. I became very depressed as I am already in my very late 20's and it was my first time actually wanting to get married. The same night I cried and did ziyaraat ashura for 40 nights because I wanted God to let us be together. I found out months later that there was a very high chance he will be able to get the same nationality as I have but it will take around 3-5 years. It has been two and a half years since he proposed and we are still good friends and it is very obvious that he has the same intentions. I know you might think its easy to find someone else but I don't want to get married just for the sake of getting married. I want someone who understands me on an intellectual basis, respects me, motivates me to work harder, is not an angry person etc. and he has all those qualities. Is it possible to engage in some sort of mut'aa marriage even though I don't want to have sex (I only would do that if its a permanant marriage). i just want to feel like I am with my partner (hold hands, kiss etc.). We have every intention of getting married when he gets his nationality but the wait is just very frustrating. I feel like my whole life is on hold over a very stupid condition from my parents. I have decided that even if they do not allow me to get married when he gets his nationality- I will still get married as I believe it is something they will be able to tolerate long term. But for now I feel very frustrated that I can't marry him due to something so small and I don't want to lose him as he is the most respectful person I have ever met. Please can you help guide me if I am doing something wrong or have parental advice on how to handle this situation?

Salam everyone. ive been with my partner for 2 years and we haven’t done anything yet. My parents know of him but are delaying the conversation of marriage due to him being a different nationality. we both are getting impatient and recently he has been told that we could do mutah without sexual intercourse? Apparently if I am a virgin, you need to ask for a fathers permission but if I am not then I don’t need to? I am 22 living with my parents, however I consider myself cable of financially supporting myself. (I pay for everything for myself, I give my dad rent money every 2 weeks). I follow sayed sistani and so does he. Thank you in advance

Salaam Alaikum everyone. I am wondering a lot about Mut'ah. I feel like I've made a mistake agreeing upon a Mut'ah. - We are a young couple with different backgrounds. I've met his family and they are all were nice to me and I was very happy meeting all of them. He's met my family recently but it feels like we don't fit to be together. My family is a Catholic though they don't practice it, my father drinks and my mom is a smoker. I recently converted and I am learning a lot about Islam through him and through reading the Qu'ran and reading a lot of fatwas. Anyway, I feel like we are drifting away from each other as he sees my family as sinners. I feel so bad because I do love him and I do know that with Islam, I'll shed light to my parents about these bad habits. I believe that with a stronger belief and a strong will- I will be able to help them to understand that with these vices- not only it deteriorates their body but it's not good in a long run. - We haven't been dating for quite a long time but under Mut'ah, he got me pregnant. I am still pregnant with his child but I am reading a lot about what could happen if he breaks the contract- would I be able to get the custody of my child or it will be all on him? I am financially stable and I know that I'd be able to take care of myself and the baby but I've read that it will be all in his custody. Is there anyone out there can clarify me about this situation? - Would it matter if he hasn't given me his dowry? I can't find any details on this matter. I've got so many questions and I feel like all the questions I have right now are all quite tricky but please, I need your help. Thank you so much.

Salaamz All - Just recently I was listening a lecture from one of the Sayed Qazwinis (there are so many Qazwinis) where he talked about the risks of reckless Aqd -e- Mutah. Most of his opinions came from the fact that we are not robots, have emotions, get emotionally attached, touch other person's life in many intimate ways, and an eventual culmination of the Aqd may leave emotional, physical, lateral (pregnancy), marital (comparing future spouses with the muta partners), social (living among Shi'a who follow the thoughts of Umer and consider Muta wrong) hangovers. This thread is not to seek your opinion on the validity of the Aqd of Muta, instead share your opinions of how to mitigate the risks of during and post Aqd issues. A few risk mitigation items that I could come up with are below. Please comment on these and add others. 1. Stipulating the end terms with the stipulation of how to detach emotionally. 2. Making the woman write terms of what will happen in case of pregnancy. 3. Issues around discretion.

Why Shias perform Mutah??? Please don't mind sorry to say, isn't it Disgusting??? Men having Muta with different Women and Women having Muta with different men.

Far too often, you find that Shias are attacked at permitting temporary marriage. They accuse Shias of permitting something akin to prostitution (which is really odd, given the companions performed Mutah and the Prophet (saw) permitted it, and it would be strange to permit prostitution). What many Shias may not really know is that aside from the Hanbalis and a number of the Salafi scholars, two major Sunni Madhabs permit a man and or a woman to get married, with the intention they will divorce, so long as they do not explicitly make it a condition in their marriage. So in effect, a man can choose to marry a woman for a month, and then divorce her after a month and return to wherever he came from. In fact, not only is this essentially like temporary marriage, it actually throws the poor woman into confusion as she was not expecting someone who committed in marriage to suddenly change in that manner, and this can have adverse effects upon her. With Mutah, both parties are aware of what they are getting into. This sort of marriage is supported by the Hanafis, Shafi's, and Salafi scholars like Ibn Baz (a major scholar). Don't bother telling Salafis about ibn Baz because they will pull their classic cop-out card 'but they aren't infallible like your infallible imams , we use the word 'infallible imams' because like an election technique we drill in the same catchphrase again and again so put forth a message and so here it is 'infallible' imam'. However, a number of scholars within the Hanafi and Shafi' Madhab even permit a man and a woman to both know that they will cut off their marriage after a particular time period and so long as they don't explicitly put it into the marriage contract, that marriage is permissible. PS: This kind of marriage is valid according to most Sunnis anyway, but the distinction is in whether it is Harram to do or not, but once you do it, you become Halal for each other. If you aren't aware Hanafis comprise of the largest denomination of the four Madhabs, and along with Shafi'i muslims would make up well over half the number of Sunnis we have today. If you also take into account those who accept the Fatwah of ibn Baz and other fringe opinions among the Salafis purported by major scholars, Sunni Islam permits based on the dominant view for a man and or a woman to get married with the intention of divorcing after a certain period, and among those that permit it, some permit a man and a woman to both know the intentions of the other but not to add it in the official contract. Did i also forget to add, 'great' Salafi scholars like Ibn Taymiyyah, ibn Qayim (they love to quote him in motivational quotes), Ibn Hazm, Shawkani, Subki and others permit a grown man to be breastfed by a woman? You might think i have gone into an extreme to claim this and that it can not possibly true, but there is nothing more to it, it is a fact. They try to bury this truth and reality so you don't know about it! While the majority of their 'sect' permits what is effectively Mutah, and a number of notable scholars of theirs permitted what is essentially grotesque contact between those of opposite sex, here they are accusing the followers of Muhammed and ale Muhammed (peace be on them all) of allowing prostitution! The same people who among them have youth abusing Shias on Mutah, yet have girlfriends they procure outside of it! Quotes/Useful material to use: [IBN BAZ - A MAJOR SALAFI SCHOLAR, PART OF THE 'HOLY' SALAFI TRIAD OF SCHOLARS THAT ARE IBN UTHAYMEEN, AL ALBANI AND IBN BAZ] "If, on the other hand, a man sees that the woman and her former husband really want to get back together, therefore with the intention of helping them out, he marries her then divorces her after consummating the marriage, then this will be permissible with the condition that no one knows of his intention."https://hanafilegalrulings.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/halala-after-divorce.htmlIn fact, the marriage is Valid and it is permissible according to a number of scholars in the Hanafi Fiqh, if the man and woman know their intention is to marry for a week, or a month, or a year, but do not explicitly stipulate it in the contract. It is clear cut temporary marriage, and the only thing differentiating it is the explicit inclusion in the marital contract:"If both the man and the woman marrying each other know of each others intention (i.e. that they are getting married for halaala), but at the time of marriage, the condition of halaala is not mentioned, then in this case some ulama (scholars) say that it is not permissible (although, just like in the first scenario, if someone does it, the marriage itself will be valid and the woman will become halaal for her first husband). Other ulama say that such a marriage is permissible. It is therefore better to avoid this."https://hanafilegalrulings.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/halala-after-divorce.html(Ahsanul Fataawa: 5/154, Saeed)(Fataawa Usmani: 2/278, Maktaba Ma’ariful Quran)(Qaamoosul Fiqh: 2/426, Zamzam Publishers)(Raddul Muhtaar: 5/51, Darul Ma’rifa) " Similarly, if the woman gets married to a man with the intention that after the marriage and its consummation, she will ask for divorce and thereafter get married to her first husband, it will be permissible with the condition that no one knows of her intention."https://hanafilegalrulings.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/halala-after-divorce.html(Ahsanul Fataawa: 5/154, Saeed)(Fataawa Usmani: 2/278, Maktaba Ma’ariful Quran)(Qaamoosul Fiqh: 2/426, Zamzam Publishers)(Raddul Muhtaar: 5/51, Darul Ma’rifa) PS: Other than Ibn Baz, who goes against most of the Salafis in his ruling, the Hanafi Fatwahs are not just 'rouge' rulings by 'individuals'.

Salam all, I was looking for some guidance on something. Alhamdulilah I have just came back from Ziyarat and after speaking with a Alim there, he made me make a promise and that was to drop my most dangerous sin. Ashamed to admit, but as a young male, my worst sin is istimna(masturbation). The Alim advises that I get married to stay away from sin and take care of human needs in halal fashion however since I will not be getting married for at least another 2-3 years due to school and parents not willing til completion, he recommended mutah with Ahle kitab. my issue is that I feel guilty doing Nikkah mutah solely for the sake of justifying pleasure, and just because it is better than istimna. Also, to pay someone willing here as a dowry, I feel like is very similar to prostitution and have a hard time accepting that. I am only asking because I want to take care of my human desires in a halal fashion and it’s getting to the point my mind is consumed by these dirty thoughts. I usually controlled this by astagfirullah but I have stopped that now. please looking for some help or advice. Jazak

Assalam Wa Aleikum, i really need some help here, as I am so confused, In regards to whether i am a free woman and my iddah is over. It might be important to note that i follow Sayed Sistani. So I am a sister from Denmark and i contracted a mutah with a man for 1 year. We were together for 8 months, but then We decided to end our mutah and gift me back the remaining 4 months. Since none of us really speak arabic, (although we could pronounce the actual mutah contract - and so, we did do that In arabic, because we found that easy) But he did not say the "divorce-formular" In arabic (I am aware of the fact, that there is no actual divorce in mu'tah, but for the sake of making it easy, I'll refer to it, as "divorce") so he pronounced the "divorce formular" In english and then In danish. So one of each language. The reason for this, and our intention of saying it In both languages, was so that we could make sure, that he had pronounced it properly and that i was sure, to have been given back my remaining time of 4 months. Now i am confused, since i read the following; in mut’a there is a waiting period which must be observed after the time period of the marriage has expired or the man has returned the remainder of the period to the woman. It consists of two menstrual periods, provided she menstruates. This statute is based upon the following two hadith: 'To divorce a slave, one must pronounce the formula of divorce twice; her waiting period is two menstrual periods' (the Imam Musa). It has been related that al-Shaykh al-Mufid,al-'Allama al-Hilli, Ibn Idris, and a number of the other ulama' hold that the waiting period of a wife by mut'a is two fuhrs i.e., two major ablutions following menstrual periods. They base this opinion on the hadith related from the Imam al-Baqir: '. ..If he is a free man married to a slave girl, he divorces her by pronouncing the formula of divorce twice; her waiting period is two fuhrs.' And in the hadith quoted above, it is seen that the waiting period of a wife by mut'a is the same as that of a slave girl. so now i am confused if whether or not, he did actually gift me back the time correctly. Because although he did say it twice, In two different languages, we did NOT have the intention of doing it Because we thought we had to do it. I did not even know about the hadith until a few days ago. So my first question is: did he really gift me the time back properly and is my iddah valid? My second question is, i already had 2 menstruations since he left me. He left me on the 29th of september, i got my first period on the 9th of october. Then it ended about the 14th - 15th of october. Then i did ghusl. then i got my second period on the 15th of november and it lasted until the 21th - 22th of november. Then i did ghusl. Does that count as 2 menstrual cycles or do I have to wait until it has actually been 2 months, counted by days. So for example, 1 month of 31 days and a second month for 31 days = 62 days? And if so, did my iddah start on the 29th of september, when he left me, or did it start the 9th of october, when my first period started? OR do i In fact, have to wait another 3 weeks, until i get my period for the third time? My last question is, i don't remember if i was pak from my earlier menstruation period, BEFORE he left me, as i did not pray at that time, i never used to do ghusl that much, after ending a menstruation. I Think i maybe was pak, But i just dont remember. On Sistanis page it says following; 2518. There is no question of of divorce in the case of a woman with whom temporary marriage is contracted, for example, for one month or one year. She becomes free when the period of her marriage expires or when the man forgoes the period of her marriage by saying: "I hereby exempt you from the remaining time of marriage", and it is not necessary to have a witness nor that the woman should be Pak from her Haidh. so it says that I did not need to be pak BEFORE he left me? My very last question is, if it is haram to start talking to some one else, about marriage. Because i am talking to someone at the moment. i have had my period 2 times, But i just don"t know if i really am free or not. I pray that one of you, Can help me with my questions, as my Sayed from Denmark is out travelling and very busy, and i just need to know. Assalamu Wa Aleikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh

I am a revert.. and the lone in a house full of wahabis.. i reverted 3 years ago. And i am from [EDIT]. Now i know i cant have a sunni nikah which is not a nikah actually.. how can i find some shia revert for marriage or for mutah in [EDIT]. It is serious. No pun no exaggeration intended.

Can anyone explain Can a person do mutah with jis own sister or mother?

Asalamaalykum My cousin entered a Mutah Marraige without asking her Wali's consent. She was not aware about this rule and wanted to do everything in a halal manner. She was a virgin before the Mutah Marraige but she now she has had sexual intercourse. She is very scared what can she do about it now?