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Batriya, are people, particularly in zaidiya, who believe in the imamat of imam ali after prophet Muhammad saws, but do jot reject Abu bakr and umar, unlike us the Shia Rafidha who believe that doing tabarrah from the enemies of ahle bait and doing lanat on them as important as believing in wilayah. Does these batriya have perpetuated believes in shia also, like nowadays we hear lots of scholars giving farwa that cursing abu bak r umar, aisha etc is HARAM, even though we many hadiths from the infallibles that they used to do it an d recommend it.

I've seen from nahjul balagha that Ali said to Muawiyah in a letter that "Verily those who swore allegiance to Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman have sworn allegiance to me on the same basis on which they swore allegiance to them." What does this mean? Are batris the true shia?

Salamun alaikum, Does anybody know the most authentic version of why Zayd ibn Ali (AS) was deserted by some of his alleged followers in Kufa? I read many contradictory things about his desertion including: i.) For his refusal to do tabarra of Abu Bakr and Umar, as neither did his parents etc Sunni/Zaydi view ii.) That he studied under Wasil ibn Ata the Mutzailite and did not do tabarra to attract a greater following, but this ended up working against him (there's even a hadith allegedly by Imam Baqir [AS] criticized Zayd for obtaining knowledge from someone like Wasil). Wasil or Mutazilism allegedly influenced Zayd [AS] into accepting Abu Bakr and Umar's caliphates as legitimate, albeit less superior compared to Ali's [AS]. Sunni/Shia view iii.) Zayd [AS] was deserted by people who didn't do enough tabarra of Abu Bakr and Umar so Zayd [AS] told them to get "cut off/out" (batara) which is how they got their name "Batriyyah" Thus the remaining uprisers were loyal to the cause of the illegitimacy and tabarra of the above. Shi'i/Zaydi. - Imami Shia view I was wondering if anyone knew the official Imami line that is taught these days on what happened and whether some share the Sunni version, it wouldn't surprise me given the mentality of some Shia's. But likewise it would not surprise me if this was propaganda to support the Sunni line that Imams [AS] were supportive and accepting of the 3 Caliphs... Thanks in advance

Salam. New Sect: ''Teaching / Learning the Book (al-kitaab)'' There is a new sect, the leader is Muhammad Effendi Al-Qurashiy Al-Amjadiy. He propagates his doctrine on facebook. He claims to have access to 'al-kitaab' etc. [see the screenshot]. I think, he had thread on ShiaChat also.