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  1. So Abu Bakr went upto Hassan and Imam Husayn (ASWS) and they where children rather they were playing (Abu Bakr was a bit older But still played alongside) then Al Hasnain (ASWS) you are our slave so do as we say (or something like that God forgive me if i'm wrong) so like just how kids play kings and other stuff today too). So then Abu Bakr went home to his father and told him what they (ASWS) said then his father said "This is great news please just get them to write down this statement for they are the kings, leaders of heaven" so he went and got it written down so HIS father was overjoyed
  2. Read the Reddit comments to understand what the thread was about, since the post has since been deleted. ....................................................................................... I'm so tired of the utterly nonsensical and VERY COMMON Sunni notion of 'I am happy to seek unity with Shias as long as they don't curse/insult/abuse any Sahaba, and especially NOT Aisha, Abu Bakr, Omar, Uthman. Firstly, any Shia claim regarding the sahabi that happens to go against the Sunni narrative is considered insulting. Secondly, and more importantly, is that the same notion i
  3. Asaalaamualaikum, I'm a Hanafi Sunni and I have recently been researching the conquests conducted after the death of Rasoolullah (saw) and tbh this is quite a depressing subject to read about. Abu Bakr waged a war against Byzantium, Umar invaded Persia, Uthman invaded East Africa and Afghanistan, the Ummayads took the rest of North Africa and Spain and so on and so on... etc. But I think to myself... WHY? to me... all of this sounds like ISIS ideology... just expansion on steroids. Is it really an Islamic belief that we should conquer the world and enforce sharia on everyone? Id likes to
  4. The first to enter Islam was NOT Abu Bakr, But it was Imam Ali ibn abi Talib [AS] اخبرنا احمد بن جعفر القطيعي , ثنا عبد الله بن احمد بن حنبل-- قال; ان اول من اسلم مع رسول الله علي بن ابي طالب. Ahmad bin Ja'far Al-Qateani gave us news, Narrated AbdAllah bin Ahmed bin Hanbal -- [A longer Sanad] He said: Indeed, The first of those who entered Islam with Rasul Allah [The Messenger of Allah] was Ali bin Abi Talib. Al-Mustadarak 4223 In conclusion, According to Sunni sources - Imam Ali was the first to enter Islam, and not Abu Bakr.
  5. Asalaamualaikum brothers and sisters, I have recently been reading about the amazing Islamic figure, Imam Zayd Ibn Ali (RA). I have to say this is one of the greatest people I have ever read about! I had a few questions to my Shia brothers and sisters. Apart from his uprising against the oppressive and corrupt ummayads and his beautiful character, one of the things that caught my attention about Imam Zayd (RA) is his respect for some for the sahaba. For example Imam Zayd refused to speak ill of Umar ibn Khattab (RA) and Abu Bakr Siddique (RA): The people of Kufah were now called upon
  6. SalamAlaykum Brothers and sisters A question that came in my mind was, Do we have any narrations of the Caliphs attacking the Daughter of the Prophet in our Books? And if yes are they Authentic. I'm not doubting the event but one must look through subjective lenses. Would really appreciate if brothers/sisters share Hadiths on this platform.
  7. I'm a sunni I want to know 1 aya that says imam Ali is imam in the quran. I don't want to hear the ruku argument cuz abu bakr also gave zakat in Ruku.
  8. Sheik Hassan Allahyari. Salam. Last week Sheikh Asrar Rashid issued at challenge to the Shia Ulema based in the West to debate him. I hereby accept the challenge. Having previously debated and destroyed a plethora of Bakri titans via TV debates, I'll happily do the same with you. I'm based in the USA so therefore fulfill your requirement that the scholar be from the West. As the debate will need to be via satellite I'm happy for it to be aired live for all to see. We can show it concurrently on my Ahlelbayt TV channel and whatever Bakri channel (using your facebook live or any other means
  9. Salaam all, I have been watching the Umar series just to allow free thought and invite open-mindedness and to understand the roots of Islam and shism better. I just had a question: The prophet passed away, not long after the event of ghadeer whereby he proclaimed Imam Ali (a.s) as a successor. Upon the tragic death of the prophet, the "muslims" decided to take control of the ummah (as though it was their responsibility and not Allah's command). They treated Islam as a country, rather than a divine message, allowing to 'elect' leaders themselves, whereas, Islam has always been a
  10. a short video definitely worth watching.... Quran: O you who have believed, do not raise your voices above the voice of the Prophet or be loud to him in speech like the loudness of some of you to others, lest your deeds become worthless while you perceive not. 53:2 Your companion [Muhammad] has not strayed, nor has he erred, 53:3 Nor does he speak from [his own] inclination. 53:4 It is not but a revelation revealed,
  11. Sincere Questions for our Shi’a brethren 1. Imamat for Imamiya Ithna Ashari Shi’as is considered as Usul e Deen and in maqam and position it is considered greater than Nabuwwah or atleast equal to Nabuwwah. We would like to ask you that how has this Usul e Deen not stated in Quran al Kerim. Allah Almighty time and again tells us to Believe in Allah and the Ambiyaa in Kutub wa Suhuf e Ambiyaa a.s, in Maa’d in Jannah in Jahannam in Meezan in Malak and many other important matters. But no where in the whole Quran al Kerim are we commanded or told to Believe in Imams or the understanding o
  12. Assalam O Alaikum all shia brothers/sisters. This post is dedicated to @Tawheed313 @skamran110 @BornShia @shiaman14 @yam_110 Lets forget about the reason why Imams had named their children as Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman. Whatever may be the reason behind this, its not important. Because its an established fact that Imams actually did that. The most important thing is that being the true lover and follower of Ahlebait you should also name your children as Abu Bakr, umar and Uthman. And I think there is no any big deal in it for a true lover of Ahlebait. Instead of feeling a
  13. I know the widespread belief of 12'er Shias regarding Abu Bakr (R.A) Umar (R.A). I am curious where Zaydis stand on this.
  14. How can one prove that the caliph after rasullulah was divinely appointed [i.e the sucessor of Rasullulah (SAW) was divinely chosen]
  15. As-Salamu 'Alaikum, I was doing a research on khums in Sunni fiqh. At a point, I wanted to find out how and when Abu Bakr and 'Umar paid Imam 'Ali, Umm Abiha Fatimah, Imam al-Hasan and Imam al-Husayn, 'alaihim as-salam, their shares of khums, in line with the Qur'an: واعلموا أنما غنمتم من شيء فأن لله خمسه وللرسول ولذي القربى واليتامى والمساكين وابن السبيل إن كنتم آمنتم بالله وما أنزلنا على عبدنا يوم الفرقان يوم التقى الجمعان والله على كل شيء قدير And know that whatever of war-booty that you may gain, verily one-fifth (1/5th) of it is assigned to Allah, and to the Messenger, and
  16. (salam) (bismillah) One of our brothers from the HCY forum ([url Edited]) has complied a number of refutations of the RevisitingTheSalaf group (99% refuted apparently) and has asked for the link to this website to be distributed to Shi'a websites and circles for reading. www.twelvershia.net Enjoy. (salam)
  17. Salam Aleikum to you all! In this post i want to know why "a part" of the shiites hate the sahaba's of the prophet (saws). I know that the shiites think that a big part of the sahabs were disbelief or deviants, which offcause is not the truth.. Why does you talk bad about the wife of the prophet, Aisha (ra) ?? Do you really think, that the prophet (saws) would be happy about your behavour? Do you think Allah (SWT) is pleased with your cursing over the sahaba's? Do you think your a better muslim than the people closes to the prophet (saws)? How would you stand in front of Allah (SWT) at the jud
  18. The Conclusion Read here: http://www.revisitingthesalaf.org/2014/07/the-oppression-of-sayeda-faatima-sa_2.html
  19. The famous sermon of Imam Ali (as) , known as Shaqshaqiyya, has raised questions about the authenticity of Nahjul Balagha among the Ahlul Sunnah, but I would like to prove that it was recorded by many well know Sunni scholars in their books long before the compiler of Nahjul Balagha was born. The sermon was reported by ibn Abbas who was present, in the following books (sunni books only):, Majma' al amthaal by al Maydani v1 page 369, Ibn al Athir in al Nihayah v2 page 294, Lisaan al arab by ibn Mandhoor, al Qamus by al Fairuzabadi v3 page 251, and many more.. Here is what Imam Ali (as) sai
  20. According to the Ahlul Sunnah, these will all be in Janah: 1)Imam Ali (as) , 2)Abu Bakr, 3)Umar, 4)Uthman, 5)Talhah, 6) Zubair. I know there's more but I just want to focus on these. Ok, so... The second and third cause the death of the first's wife. Also, the fourth and fifth tried to kill the first. Oh, I almost forgot, the second, third and fourth on that list stole the Khilafah from the first... but, all of them will be together in Janah. Could anyone from Ahlul Sunnah explain this?! And if any Shi'a would like to add to this they would be very welcome. ws
  21. As all Muslims know Grave of Fatimah bint Rasul Allah (sawas){ فاطمه بنت رسول الله } is hidden? It is amazing and questionable that why her ( Fatimah Zahra فااطمه زهرا ) grave is hidden. She ( Faimeh daughter of Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh&hf) dies in time of Government ( Khilafat ) of Abu Bakr. But her grave is unknown it means Khalifa Awwal ( Abu Bakr), Umar hadn't know her grave ! Lets see what happened to Fatima bint Muhammad ( Spouse of Ali ibn Abitalib) who that we recite tasbih ( memorial of her as called tasibihat Fatima Zahra [ i.e. 34 times الله اکبر Allahu Akbar , 33 times
  22. (salam) I haven't posted in this section for a long time due to the same old topics being re-cycled over and over, it got useless; a discussion of ego's. I want to ask all those that believe the first 3 to be superior to Imam Ali (as) a few simple questions. Where are the scholarly works of the 3? if there aren't any why not? Surely if they are so elevated then they must have some books of there own. If not where are their many beautiful sermons/sayings? We all know that Imam Ali's (as) sermons and sayings are compiled; Nahjul Balagha. Please keep it on topic and useful. I just want to hear
  23. This video gives the details of Abu Bakr's behaviour towards Fatima Zahra(sa) quoting from Sahih Bukhari. Link-
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