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Some so-called Muslims accuse Shias of ‘worshipping’ shrines. They take visitation of shrines of holy personalities (a.s.) – Ziyarat as a sign of polytheism and are quick to level allegations of polytheism and disbelief against the Shias. Reply The charge of these so-called Muslims is similar to the claims of the polytheists who accuse Muslims of idolatry for visiting the Holy Kaaba and perform its circumambulation (tawaaf). Such accusations are baseless and only go on to show that these Muslims have no understanding of true monotheism and polytheism. They issue edicts of disbelief based on their narrow and inaccurate interpretation of Islam. Had they been present in the time of Prophet Adam (a.s.) and Prophet Yaqoob (a.s.) they would have condemned both the divine Prophets (a.s.) for prostrating to other than Allah! SERATONLINE.COM There is an interesting anecdote between the Saudi king and a Shia scholar on the subject. Sayyid Sharaf al-Deen, a famous Shia scholar and author of such books as ‘Al-Muraajeaat’ and ‘Al Nass wa al-Ijtehaad’, went on pilgrimage to the Holy Kaaba during the time of King Abdul Aziz b. Saud. He was among the scholars invited to the King’s palace to celebrate Eid al-Azha in accordance with the customs there. When his turn came to shake the King’s s hand, Sayyid Sharaf al-Deen presented him with a leather-bound Holy Quran. The King took the Book of Allah, placed it on his forehead and kissed it in reverence. Sayyid Sharaf al-Deen asked, “O King! Why do you kiss and revere the cover which is only made out of goat’s skin?” The King answered, “I meant to revere the Holy Quran, not the goat’s skin.” Sayyid Sharaf al-Deen replied, “You are right, O King! We do the same when we kiss the window or the door of the Holy Prophet’s (s.a.w.a.) chamber. We know it is made of iron and cannot harm or render a benefit but our reverence is directed behind the iron and wood. We intend to glorify the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w.a.) in the same way as you meant with the Holy Quran when you kissed the goat’s skin cover.” Impressed by the Sayyid’s argument, the audience exclaimed, “You are right!” The King was forced to allow the pilgrims to ask for blessings from the Holy Prophet’s (s.a.w.a.) relics, until the order was reversed by the successor of that king.

Building Mosques Over Graves - ON THE SAD OCCASION OF THE DESTRUCTION OF THE GRAVES OF JANNATUL BAQI BY THE WAHABIS ( 8TH SHAWWAL -1345 AH / April 21, 1925) Pre-Islamic instances of mosques built over graves:The following list is merely indicative and should not be treated as exhaustive:1. Prophet Dawood (a.s.) in Quds, Israel2. Prophet Ibrahim (a.s.) in Hebron, Israel3. Prophet Is’haaq (a.s.) in Hebron4. Prophet Yaqoob (a.s.) in Hebron5. Prophet Yusuf (a.s.) in HebronAll these graves were elevated structures of stones and remained in this condition even after the spread of Islam in Quds. (Kashf al-Irteyaab, pg 306)Even Ibn Taimiyyah admits that the structure over Prophet Ibrahim’s (a.s.) grave existed when Islam reached Hebron and in the very presence of companions, none of whom raised any objection. Only thing is the door to the mausoleum (of Prophet Ibrahim (a.s.)) remained closed till 400 AH. (Majma’ al-Fataawaa of Ibn Taimiyyah vol 27 pg 141) FOR MORE ARTICLES CLICK HERE list of some instances to prove the point that building graves is as old as Islam itself:1. Existence of the structure i.e. Prophet’s (s.a.w.a.) chamber inside which he (s.a.w.a.) lies buried. (Akhbaar al-Madinah vol. 1 pg 81)Initially the Prophet’s (s.a.w.a.) room where he lies buried did not have walls. It was Umar b. Khattab who first constructed walls around it and gave it the shape of a structure. (Wafaa al-Wafaa be Ikhtiyaar al-Mustafa, vol. 2 pg 521)In fact, constructing and re-constructing walls around the Prophet’s (s.a.w.a.) grave was an ongoing effort with Ayesha, Abdullah b. Zubair (during his brief reign in Medina) and Mutawakkil, among others.2. Constructing a mosque over the grave of Hazrat Hamzah (a.s.). (Ibid)3. Grave of Ibrahim – son of the Prophet (s.a.w.a.) in the house of Muhammad b. Ali b. Zaid. (Ibid)4. Building a structure over the grave of Ameerul Momineen (a.s.) in the year 372 AH. (Sair-o- Aalam-e-Nobala vol 1 pg 251)5. Building a structure over the grave of Zubair in the year 386 AH. (Al-Muntazim, vol. 14 pg 377)6. Building a structure over the grave of Sa’d b. Maaz in the second century. (Sair-o-Aalam-e-Nobala vol. 13 pg 285)7. Embellishing the grave of Imam Bukhari – compiler of Sahih-e-Bukhari in 256 AH. (Al-Tabaqaat al-Shaafiyyah al-Kubra, vol. 2 pg 234)8. Abbaside Emperor Haroon al-Rashid constructed a dome over the tomb of Ameerul Momineen (a.s.) during his reign in the second century. (Sair-o-Aalam-e-Nobala vol. 16 pg 251)If leveling graves to the earth was ever mandated in Islam we can be certain that Haroon al-Rashid would definitely have done it given his animosity with the Ahle Bait (a.s.) of the Prophet (s.a.w.a.) and his role in the murder of the Prophet’s grandson – Imam Moosa b. Jafar al-Kazim (a.s.). On the contrary, we find that he has constructed a dome as a mark of respect for someone who he did not particularly love.9. The respected companion of the Prophet (a.s.) – Hazrat Salman-e-Muhammadi (r.a.) passed away in 36 AH. Khateeb-e-Baghdadi writes about his tomb – His grave is present even today near the palace of Kasra in Madaaen, Iraq. It is well-known heritage site and has a structure over it. (Taarikh-e-Baghdadi, vol. 1 pg 163)10. Regarding Talhah b. Abdullah – who died while fighting the caliph of his time, Ibne Batutah writes in his journal, “His grave is at the entrance of the city and over the grave is a dome and a mosque.” (Safarnaameh Ibn Batutah, vol. 1 pg 208)When this is the respect accorded by the Muslims to the grave of a companion who died on falsehood, graves of those like the Imams of the Ahle Bait (a.s.) who were martyred on truth and were in fact Imams of truth, deserve even more embellishment, veneration and respect.11. Muhammad b. Idris al-Shaafei – Imam Shaafei, one of the four jurists of the Sunni school, passed away in 204 AH. Zahabi writes, “The entire city collectively constructed a dome over his grave.” (Duwal al-Islam pg 344) Building mosques over graves is advocated by Sihaah-e-Sittah (the six compendiums of traditions regarded as highly reliable by the Ahle Tasannun)While these Muslims are quick to advance traditions from Sahih-e-Bukhari and Sahih-e-Muslim that suit their motive to brand accepted Islamic practices as apostasy, they appear oblivious to the scores of other traditions that reject their contention.1. Umar’s grave has a structureBukhari narrates in his Sahih in the Book of Janaaiz:When Umar was stabbed, he sent his son Abdullah with a message to Ayesha to – ask her – If I can be buried with my two companions i.e. in her room, next to the Prophet (s.a.w.a.) and Abu Bakr.Ayesha replied: I wanted the spot for myself, but I will prefer him (Umar) to myself today.It had been her custom that if a man from among the companions requested her for that spot, she would always refuse. She herself gave the following instructions before her death: Bury me with my lady-friends (the wives of the Prophet in al-Baqi but do not bury me with the Prophet in the house, for I dislike to be held in reverence).Ibn Umar came back with the news whereupon Umar said: Nothing in the world was more important to me than that resting-place. (Sahih-e-Bukhari, Book of Janaaiz)2. Elevation of gravesAbu Bakr b. Ayyaash narrates that Sufyan al-Tammar told me that he had seen the grave of the Prophet elevated and convex. (Sahih-e-Bukhari, vol. 2 book 23, tradition 473)It is established that the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w.a.) placed a rock on top of Usman b. Maz’un’s (r.a.) grave. (Sunan-e- Abi Dawud, Al-Bayhaqi in al-Kubra, vol. 3, pg 412)The detailed report states that the Holy Prophet (s.a.w.a.) asked a man to place a rock on top of Usman b. Maz`un’s grave; when he was unable to move it, he rolled up his sleeves and helped him till the whiteness of his arms was visible. Usman b. Maz`un was the first of the migrants buried in Baqi. Ibrahim, the Holy Prophet’s (s.a.w.a.) son, was buried next to him.Kharijah b. Zaid states: I can see myself when we were young men in the time of Usman (b. Affaan). The strongest one of us in high jump was he who could jump over the grave of Usman b. Maz`un and clear it. (Sahih-e-Bukhari in Chapter: (Placing) a stalk on top of the grave; Ibn Hajar in Fath al-Baari vol. 3 pg 256 of 1959 ed., Al-Bukhari in his Al-Tarikh al-Saghir vol. 1 pg 42)These references are clear evidences for raising the grave and elevating it above the surface of the earth.Al-Shawkaani, a leading Salafi scholar, admitted that the Salaf built up the graves high as proved from above references.Ibn Hibban (in his Sahih-e-Ibn Hibban) who according to many Sunni scholars ranks as the most reliable scholar after Bukhari and Muslim has documented his visitation (Ziyaarah) to the tomb of Imam Ali b. Moosa al-Reza (a.s.) in Mashshad, Iran:I have done ziyaarah of his tomb many times, during my stay at Tus. Whenever I got into any difficulty I went to the grave of Imam Ali b. Moosa al-Raza (s.a.) and asked Allah for the fulfillment of my need. Every time I was answered and my difficulty was removed. This is such a reality that I found it to be true no matter how many times I did it. May Allah grant us death in the true love for Prophet (s.a.w.a.) and his blessed Ahle Bait! (Ibn Abi Haatim al-Raazi, Kitab al-Theqah, vol. 8 pg 457, tradition 14,411) Interpretation of traditions that prohibit building of gravesIt is clear from the Holy Quran and the Prophet’s (s.a.w.a.) Sunnah and actions of the righteous ancestors that building of graves is permitted and even recommended in case of esteemed personalities. Then, how does one reconcile the apparent prohibition in some traditions?The answer is simple for those who understand the tone and tenor of such traditions. Many scholars have explained it in their works – only if these so-called Muslims would have referred to these books. Perhaps, they have referred but chose to hide the truth!Both the Ibne Hajars (Haythami and Asqalaani) among other scholars have advanced a rationale for such traditions, which is so plain that even a Muslim child will understand it.Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, who had no love lost for the Shias, in his al-Zawaajir an Iqtiraf al-Kabaair elaborates on the tradition under question that the prohibition for building graves is if the prayer is performed towards or on the grave and this is only if one prays so close to it that if while praying the prayer of those attentive (looking down), the grave would be within one’s sight. (Al-Zawaajir an Iqtiraf al-Kabaair)This was the method of the prayers of Jews and Christians and hence the prohibition. No one in the history of Islam took this tradition as proof of prohibition for the building of tombs/shrines over righteous Muslims as Muslims do not worship in this manner.Likewise, Ibn Hajar al-Asqalaani states: In view of the fact that the Jews and Christians were taking the graves of their Prophets (a.s.) as their Qiblah for the purpose of respect, and were paying attention towards them at the time of their prayers, their graves took the position of idols. Hence, Muslims have been forbidden from this action. However, if someone constructs a mosque near the grave of a pious person for the purpose of seeking blessing (tabarruk) and not for prostration or paying attention towards them, he will never be included in this prohibition (as mentioned in Surah Kahf (18): Verse 21) (Ibn Hajr al-Asqalani, Fath al-Baari vol. 3 pg 208)

21 Ramadan Shadath of Imam Ali (as) in art. http://www.khanwadeabutalib.com/public/ilm/article/766/51#.U8yppeNdVA0

(salam) I am just a minor student of Islamic knowledge and It is my humble observation in this regard. I think that in Shia fiqh the rijal is not that important as it is in Sunni fiqh. We have twelve holy Imams (Golden Chain) of narrations. The narrators who reported from these twelve holy Imams (a.s) in their respective times hold less importance. Our faith is based on direct sayings of Imams (a.s) in their respective times who were being heard by many people/followers and there were less chances of deception and lie. On the other hand the Sunni reporters are common people. Their were reliable as well as non reliable reporters and they are separated in times from Prophet's times to the next generations. It is also important to note here that there is so much diversion of opinion regarding a reporter in Sunni side. Most of the time personal bias is also involved in weakening a reporter in Sunni side. Most of time we see in Shia side the hadiths are narrated in the following manner... SHIA REPORTS: Narrated A from Imam Jafar Sadiq (a.s) who reported from his father Imam Muhammad Baqir (a.s) who reported from his father Imam Zainul Abideen (a.s) who reported from his father Imam Hussain (a.s) who said that Prophet (pbuh) said ....... SUNNI REPORTS: Narrated Abu Huraira that prophet (pbuh) said or Narrated A from B who narrated from C who narrated that Hazrat Aysha (r.a) said that prophet (pbuh) said... It appears in Sunni side the reliability of narrators is more random and diverse while in Shia side the weak narrators are easily picked up. Even otherwise, the authenticity of reports in Shia side depends more on "matan" and whether the report is in accordance with Quran and settled Sunnah.

(salam) EXPLOITATION OF PUBLIC TREASURY BY USMAN BIN AFFAN It has been written in the book of Tarikh Tabari –quoted by Abdullah ibn Amir– that: “I broke my fast in the holy month of Ramadan. He brought foods that were more soft and delicious than Umar’s foods. Grilled young goats were provided in Uthman’s table every night.[1] It has been quoted in the book of Ansab al- Ashraf –quoted by Salim Abu Amir– that: “Uthman put on a cloak that was worth one hundred Dinars”.[2] It has also been written in Tabaqat al- Kubra –quoted by Muhammad ibn Rabi’ah ibn Harith– that: “I saw Uthman wearing a flamboyant furry cloak which it was worth two hundred Dirhams, and he said: “this is my wife’s, Na’ilah , I dressed her in it and now I am wearing it to make her happy”.[3] It has been quoted in the book of Al- Sawa’iq al- Muhariqah that: “Abu Musa brought some jewels made of gold and silver to Uthman, and he shared all of them among his wives and daughters. He spent most of Muslim public treasury on his farms and houses”.[4] It also has been written in Akhbar al- Muwafaqiyat –quoted by Zuhri– that: “when people brought the jewelry of Kasra [belonged to the king of Iran] to Umar, he said: “because it is so expensive, we put it in Muslim public treasury, maybe Allah enriches Muslims in the future, and one of them can buy that. Umar was killed, and that jewelry was in that state, and when Uthman became caliph, he took it and made it jewel of his daughters”.[5] It has been stated in the book of Duwal al- Islam that: “Uthman has acquired many properties and had one thousand slaves”.[6] It is mentioned in Muruj al- Zahab that: “Uthman built his house in Medina, stabilized it with stone and lime, and put some doors made of Saj[7] and sylvan cedar, and he took properties, springs and gardens in Medina”. Abdullah ibn Utbah says that: “in the day that Uthman was killed, one hundred and fifty thousand Dinars and one million Dirhams were in his treasurer’s hand, and his lands in Wadi al- Qura, Hunayn and etc were worth one hundred Dinars, he left many horses and camels”.[8] It also has been quoted from Ubaydullah ibn Abdullah ibn Utbah in the book of Tabaqat al- Kubra that: “in the day that Uthman was killed, thirty million and five hundred thousand Dirhams and one hundred and fifty thousand Dinars were in his treasurer’s hand. He left one thousand camels in Rabazah[9], and lands that he left in Baradis and Khaybar[10] and Wadi al- Qura[11] were worth two hundred thousand Dinars”.[12] [13] References [1] - Tarikh Tabari, vol. 4, p. 401. [2] - Ansab al- Ashraf, vol. 6, p.102; Al- Tabaqat al- Kubra, vol. 3, p. 58 æ Ýíå "ÈÑÏÇ íãÇäíÇ Ëãä ãäÉ ÏÑåã" “and in that Yamani cloak is worth one Dirham”. [3] - Al- Tabaqat al- Kubra, vol. 3, p. 58; Ansab al- Ashraf, vol. 6, p. 102 æ Ýíå "ãäÉ ÏíäÇÑ" ÈÏá "ãäÊí ÏÑåã" “and in that Dinar is instead of Dirham”. [4] - Al- Sawa’iq al- Muhariqah, p. 113; Al- Sirah al- Halbiyah, vol. 2, p. 78 æ Ýíå "Șáíå" ÈÏá "ÈÍáíå" “and in that balance is instead of ornament. [5] - Al- Akhbar al- Muwafaqiyat, p. 612, tradition no. 396; Sharh Nahj al- Balaghah, vol. 9, p. 16. [6] - Duwal al- Islam, p. 16. [7] - Saj is kind of sylvan tree that is high, big and having a hard and resistant wood, and it is used mostly to make ship (Al- Durus, vol. 2, p. 1154). [8] - Muruj al- Zahab, vol. 2, p. 341. [9] - It is one of the villages of Medina near to Zat Irq in the way of Hijaz which the distance between it and Medina is three nights (Mu’jam al- Baldan, vol. 3, p. 24). [10] - The area at a distance of 200 kilometers from Medina to Damascus (Mu’jam al- Baldan, vol. 2, p. 409). [11] - It is a prairie between Medina and Damascus from dependencies of Medina, and many villages are placed in that (Mu’jam al- Baldan, vol. 5, p. 345). [12] - Al- Tabaqat al- Kubra, vol. 3, p. 76; Tarikh al- Islam lil- Zahabi, vol. 3, p. 461, äÍæå æ áíÓ Ýíå ãä "˜Çä ÊÕÏÞ" Çáí "ÇáÞÑí"; Al- Bidayah wa al- Nahayah, vol. 7, p. 192 æ Ýíå "ÈÆÑ ÇÑíÓ" ÈÏá "ÈÈÑÇÏíÓ". [13] - Muhammad Muhammadi Ray Shahri, The Encyclopedia of Amir al- Muminin, vol. 3, p. 99 – 103.

Salam, So all Sunni brothers and sisters, do you think a person becomes kafir by insulting (or hurting) sahaba?

News confirmed: Paki Army exporting Armaments and Salafi Shia killers to Syria. Worst part, its going to line the pockets of a few generals and a few political families and would not have any triclle down economic benefit to the cursed land of mass called Pakistan. http://www.dw.de/is-pakistan-aiding-syrian-rebels/a-17528187 http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/islamabad/01-Apr-2014/senate-concerned-over-change-in-policy-on-syria http://www.nation.com.pk/national/31-Mar-2014/arms-supply-to-syrian-rebels-to-damage-pakistan-more-us-expert http://www.brecorder.com/general-news/172/1168385/ There are unconfirmed reports circulating around Islamabad inner circles on almost 100,000 Paki Salafi terrorists being exported to Syria, Iraq, and Yemen to create more destabilization in Shia dominated regions. I wonder when would the payback hit the GCC nations? September 2014 maybe?

So the terror export deal is sealed. Pakis sold it cheap this time. Paki government recently received the 1st installment of the $3 billon deal with Saudi government to ship battle hardened Takfiri Talibans to Syria. The terror man power will be shipped along with the paki made anti-tank and anti-air launch pads. Although a very bad news for Syrians and resistance there but also a sure shot doom and gloom for Pakistan too as the blow back would reach Pakistan this time which is already sandwiched between three of the BRIIC nations. Would Syria be able to counter this new waves of trained fighters? How far the Paki terror exports would take the Syrian 'revolution'? Of late these Paki Takfiris have been slaughtering defenseless men, women, and children; how would they fare against the revved up Syrian Arab Army and it's Shia allies? Would Pakistan be able to counter the anti-takfiri political forces with deep pocket allies in its immediate neighbors? Would Pakistan become the new Syria with Takfiris on the receiving end? http://www.ibtimes.com/sunni-side-saudi-arabia-seeking-acquire-arms-pakistan-supply-syrian-rebels-1557572 http://www.voanews.com/content/saudi-pakistan-military-ties-getting-stronger/1855116.html http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/13/us-pakistan-saudi-idUSBREA2C13G20140313

So the House of Saud is stockpiling weapons. Check. Saudi Arabia's Prince Bandar bin Sultan, financing/weaponizing his growing army of mercenaries in the Levant. Check. And the House of Saud is up to something with its ally Pakistan. Check. The House of Saud is trying to amass as many Pakistani "advisers" as possible to train its paid goons in Syria. The official Pakistani non-denial denial is that they won't be sending their army to Syria. But in a remix of Afghanistan during the 1980s jihad, a bunch of seasoned "advisers" will more than suffice. Former paki spy chief was recently given a key job at Saudi "health ministry"! Until recently, every leadership of every hardcore Islamist gang on the planet shared three traits: they studied in Saudi Arabia; they were financed by Saudi sources (public or private); and they reached their "maturity" in Afghanistan. Now with Syria, the jihadi landscape is getting more diversified. http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MID-03-210214.html http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-13-28614-Pak-Saudi-defence-cooperation-agreed Comments!

Some street/school names in Saudi Arabia (occupied Hijaz). A school named after Yazid (the murderer of Imam Hussain) A school named after Abu Lahab (one of the greatest enemies of Prophet. Sura Lahab in Qur'an admonishing him) Abraha Al Habshi Street (the Abraha who conspired to destroy KAA'BA. Sura Feel in Qur'an adminishing him and his army) Mosaylma Street (Mosaylma Kadhab, the first Arab declared his false prophet hood)

Cat is out of the bag. USA is mulling over paying salaries to Al-Qaeda terrorists in Syria. USA is also allowing Saudis to ship manpads, the shoulder fired anti-aircraft weapons to 'selected' rebels. So this is the rewind of full scale Afghan war of the 1980s. Too bad we don't have the new age John Rambos to cast in hollywood movies for the "mo-ja-hay-deens". Some interesting parallels and a few questions: 1. Turkey playing Pakistan of 1980s. Is Turkey ready to be the Pakistan of 2014s? 2. Suadis playing again what Suaids played in 1980s. Would Saudi Arabia remain "Saudi" Arabia once things go off balance? 3. Can regional minions aka Jordan and UAE take the blowback of open support to the evil forces of Takfiris? Again Pakistan of 2014s come to mind. 4. What will happen to the 'entity' across Jordan river? Isn't Syria too close to take the risk? Are NY bankers suddenly too risk averse? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/19/opinion/what-next-for-syria.html?hp&rref=opinion http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/syria-rebels-reorganize-push-for-arms/2014/02/18/fb313546-98d9-11e3-b1de-e666d78c3937_story.html http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/18/world/middleeast/russia-is-scolded-as-us-weighs-syria-options.html

1. Unchecked growth of Salafism in Syria which exploded into what Syria is today 2. Unchecked Salafism in Lebanon which is causing monthly attack on iranian interests in Lebanon 3. Loss of Iranian embassy in Afghanistan a few years back and rise of Taliban again 4. Iraq which has become literally a play yard for Salafis 5. Various Drug cartels using Iran as a conduit, 6. Routine killing of Iranian border guards at the hands of ragtag Saudi sponsored Baluchi Salafis.... 7. ... And the list goes on and on IRI's pre-emptive security apparatus seems to be utterly incompetent. Even Uganda secures its out of borders interests better than Iran. Somebody needs to look into this kiss-axx culture of IRI's bureaucracy and work on these incompetencies. Is the Wali Faqih watching this or are they even duping him too with the all rosy picture? And now this: http://presstv.com/detail/2014/01/05/343876/saudi-terrorists-death-suspicious/ How could any country allow such a big fish, tantamount of Mulla Umer in Afghanistan, to be so easily slipped away to the grave without having him share some of the secrets.

Bism Ilaah Arahman alraheem Allahoma sali ala Mohammed waali Mohammed PBUT The video below documents the tragedy of Al-baqi cemetery. I hope that we will live the day in which we see these tombs re-built and get the respect and the attention they deserve. Allahoma aajil liwalyika alfaraj https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfj97uvxb7U

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Asslamoalaikum, I have a query to Sunni fellows here as i have seen they have flooded the forum with their threads and posts to prove Shia Islam wrong. So i thought this is good time to ask them some serious question so that they may get a Shia converted to Sunni faith. Here i go.. 1. Who was Abdullah Bin Saba? What was his real name? When did he convert to Islam? 2. How many companions did he have? Can you name his companions who were able to decieve good number of Muslims? 3. How many reports, hadiths or any other documentation we find in Sunni and Shia history? How many hadiths he reported? 4. Was Abdullah Bin Saba so intellegent that he managed to deceive good number of muslims even companions and even their elders like Muawvia, Aysha, Talha and Zubair that they fell easy prey for him and entered into battle with Imam Ali a.s? 5. Does it not prove that Abdullah bin Saba was quite intellegent while companions especially Aysha, Muawvia, Talha, Zubair and many others who rebelled against Ali a.s were quite stupid, blind and foolish that they were easily decieved by Abdullah Bin Saba? 6. Is it not the hadith of prophet that "A Faithful can not be decived twice from the same hole"? Did prophet (pbuh) not say that "A beleiver never lacks wisdom"? 7. Does the answer of preceding questions not prove that basically Abdullah Bin Saba is just a scapegoat invented to cover the crimes of Sunni elders? The fact is that Aysha, Muawvia and co were slaves of their desires and hard enemy of Imam Ali a.s therefore they reblled against fourth Sunni calph and first Shia Imam just for their carnal desires? Wasalam

Warning *** Violent Video*** A Saudi beating the back out of this expat worker: http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/31/world/meast/saudi-arabia-beating-video/index.html?hpt=hp_bn2 Maybe the Saudi wife invited the worker home to make him Mahrem this way: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2575674/posts

http://www.abna.ir/data.asp?lang=3&id=406652 I recently came across this online book on a revert brother who saw the light of Islam after being misled into Salafi-Satanic cult. I'm posting the Preface of the Book. Read the book on the link above. Keep the SC community members in your Ramadhan duas. wassalam................................ Chapter One: PrefaceThe motivation behind the writing of this book came about from my personal experience. From my humble Christian background Allah (swt) guided me to his deen (religion). The brothers who converted me were themselves Salafi and hence I was indoctrinated to their aqeedah (ideology). The earliest thing that I was told was that I should be weary of the enemies of Islam disguised as Muslims such as Shi’as who portrayed Islam on the outside but were infact kaffir, on account of the “facts” such as: They believe that the Qur’an has verses missing from it. They curse the Sahaba and wives of the Prophet(s). They believe that the revelation should have gone to Ali, but Gabriel (as) accidentally conveyed it to Prophet Muhammad (s). As such they curse Gabriel when they complete their prayers. They beat themselves in Muharram and fornicate in the precincts of their mosques on the 10th night – any male product from this illegal union is named Hussain, and any girl is named Zaynab.You can imagine how this made me feel, being constantly told about this, time and time again. Hence I bore extreme hatred towards the Shi’a in my heart. As a brother told me “You should hate the Shi’a with a vengeance”. Two years after I reverted I married a Salafi sister of South Asian descent – whilst practising, she was rather less exuberant than I was in active Dawah activities. A few weeks after we married, very close friends of my wife invited us both to dinner. It was only when I arrived there that I learnt that the family were Shi’a, had I known earlier I would have probably never gone. The host was very kind, but kept asking me questions on my beliefs etc. I tried to side-track, but he kept prying and this made be feel very uneasy. This was our first meeting but we met many more times in the coming weeks, on account of the fact that his place of work was next to the University where I studied. He tried his hardest to convince me that the Shi’a were correct in their beliefs, but I simply programmed myself to believe that he was a kaffir who was practising Taqiyyah. Despite this after a year of heated discussions my heart was starting to accept some of his arguments. Whilst I would simply regurgitate whatever my Salafi brothers had taught me – he would always reply logically and would back up his comments by citing traditions from classical works such as Sahih al Bukhari. In truth I had not discussed any of these conversations to my Salafi brothers, until I was out one day and visited a market stall that was run by two Salafi reverts. After our general salutations I informed one of the brothers that I had a friend who was Shi’a and inquired whether he knew anything about the Shi’a faith. No sooner did I say the name “Shi’a” that the brother’s face changed colour, he said: “Brother don’t talk to them they are kaffir (infidels), they believe that the Qur’an has verses missing”. I told him that the Shi’a I had spoken to denied this and countered me by presenting a tahreef tradition from Sahih al Bukhari – with Umar stating that a Surah on stoning is missing. The brother was shocked and after about a minute’s silence he said: “brother they did black magic with your eyes you didn’t see it!” This really made me laugh and I walked off. I proceeded to do my shopping and was just passing the stall again when the brother called me over and introduced me to a revert who he acclaimed as an “expert on Shi’aism”. The ‘expert’ said: “So you wanna know about the Shi’a kaffir, all you need to know is that they believe in 12 Gods”. Even I from my general conversations with the Shi’a brother knew that this was a blatant lie. I then decided to test him by quizzing the fact that Shi’as believe ‘Ali to be the Prophet (s)’s legitimate successor and I cited the Sahih tradition ‘Ali is to me as Harun is to Musa except there shall be no Prophet after me’. The ‘expert’ then countered this by asking: “And what did he (s) say about Umar[r]?” I knew exactly what he was asking and said: “If there had to be a Prophet after me it would be Umar”. The expert patted me on the back and said: “Exactly brother”. I then asked him “That being the case why did Umar not become the first Khalifa? Is this not an insult to Hadhrath Umar?” The expert looked bemused, smiled and said: “Brother you’ve just used your Aql (reason) and that’s haraam”. It was that reply that will act as a permanent memory for me. I still remember looking over to the revert brother who owned the stall following this reply, he smiled a half smile, that to me suggested that he was about as convinced at the reply as I was. For me this was the turning point in my life. The sheer stupidity and lies I heard at that stall convinced me that the Salafis were trying to cover something up. Alhamdolillah, the ‘expert’ achieved greater success in guiding me to the Shi’a than the Shi’a brother had, despite a year of rigorous debating! It was his blatant lies and lack of logic that repelled me away from the Salafis and attracted me to the Ahl’ul bayt (as). You might ask ‘what has this to do with the preface?’ – well only a handful of brothers are fortunate enough to ever meet knowledgeable Shi’as and learn the actual truth. As the vast bulk of reverts are brought to the Din by the Salafi’s the opportunity of them ever actually meeting and discussing matters with Shi’as is highly unlikely. This is increased when one takes into account the level of propaganda and lies that are pumped into a revert’s mind with regards to the Shi’a and what they allegedly believe. When I look back at my time with the Salafis I recall that they never talked about ‘Ali (as) – why? Well since becoming Shi’a, truth has been made manifest – they are the Nawasib, his enemies – and are hiding their enmity behind the “Sunni label”. That’s why I had asked the brother who sacrificed so many hours of his time to guide me, to write a rebuttal of their lies and expose their actual aqeedah to the world. I hope that this book opens the minds of my fellow reverts who have been deceived by the Salafis. It is indeed sad that these same reverts who embraced Islam having researched the truth with an open mind and logical reasoning, abandon these same principles when being indoctrinated into the Salafi movement, preferring to blindly follow every word of their Nasibi Shaykhs. I also hope that the book acts as a source of inspiration to my down-trodden Shi’a brothers and sisters who have to put up with the Salafi Nasibi propaganda onslaught on a daily basis. Your brother in Islam, Abdul Hakeem Oranu. Chapter Two: Introduction .................

I've seen many false gods prevalent among Muslims. Just a warning in case your heart inflicts from one: Some prevalent gods of Sunnis/Wahabis: 1. Hatred of Shias 2. Shirk -as if it's more important to find shirk in everything than to find the work of Allah swt 3. Sahabas - as if these early believers were more important than the prophet himself 4. Saudis - as if an occupying family of thieves are always right and to be followed just because they manage Makkah and Madina Some prevalent gods of Shias: 1. Unity with Sunnis - as if unity is more important than the religious principals themselves 2. Tabarra - although an article of faith according to Quran but for some it becomes more important than the faith itself 3. Azadari - as if it's not the part but the whole of Islam - for some Aza of Imam Hussain becomes more important than following the Prophet and Imam Hussain

Why is that for past decade or so, Israeli and Saudi interests in ME and in the global politics almost always align with each other? Does it mean Saudis and Israelis are natural allies? Why don't they start a formal diplomatic relationships between Saudis and Israelis and consider each other the Most Favored Nation? They have exactly the same stance on Palestine, Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon. Both complement each other in investing money in US media to buy American goodwill, both have powerful lobbies supporting each other and their own causes in Washington, both countries intelligence agencies act like twin sisters when it comes to ME and the outside world. A recent example is they both are equally mad and concerned about the beginning of US and Iran establishment of relations. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/29/world/middleeast/israel-and-others-in-mideast-view-overtures-of-us-and-iran-with-suspicion.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

"International investors from the U.S., Europe and Asia are betting that sanctions will be lifted sooner rather than later, and many think Iran is the Next Big Thing: an underdeveloped, oil and gas-rich country that -- with foreign money and expertise -- will generate profits on an epic scale. They're getting ready to plunge in." The rest are details. What set the stage for all this though was the Great Retreat on Syria. The gigantic events which unfolded in front of our eyes in the month of September 2013 created a whole lot of winners and losers. Winners: 1. Syrian Regime - Got rid of 'good for nothing' CW at UN's expense. Bought time to crush the Suadi led insurgency. Regime will remain intact. 2. Syrian People - Will first time taste some semblance of democracy. Regime will offer sweeter governing deals to citizens making it a citizen inclusive government from the 2014 elections forward. 3. Russia - Managed to regain some of its lost place in international politics and has become relevant again. 4. Iran - Gained respect and legitimacy as a pivotal Middle Eastern player. Can't be ignored or sidelined from here on. "Supremacy of Iran" what the dictator Shah of Iran dreamed as only a political slogan would finally come to fruition at the hands of People's Government of Iran lead by WeF. 5. USA - Being in North American continent gives you some advantages. One of those is, if you play both sides right, you could come out with some gains in every situation. For everybody else, that includes Iran, Russia, China, Turks,and Saudi sphere, it was Win-Lose game. For USA it was a Win-Win game no matter how the events turned out in Syria. Losers: 1. Israel - It will be all too evident what Israel lost in Syria. The loss is beyond the borders of ME and the 'gift keeps giving' till North America. Left wing Liberal Jewish are definitely coming out as winners at the expense of crazy psychopath superiority complexed but immensely fearful right wing. 2. Saudis - Takfiri Saudi evil alliance is soon to be abandoned by big powers (another 3-4 decades don't mean much in the game of worlds). Saudi financed Wahabism as we know it would get a serious beating soon, almost like Star-Wars scenario when the forces of evil just vanish in the end. 3. War Profiteers - USA, UK, French war mongers have not been handed such an immense defeat in past 2 decades. Not to mention, they are planning to resurface themselves in African conflicts, but ME for now will be spared. Smart countries and nations would start aligning their interest now seeing the new direction of the world. Old world losers will remain stagnant holding their proverbial baggage.

Here's a rare footage of Iranian military advisors in Syrian conflict. True or not but seems like this war is not-winnable for Wahhabis anymore. http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/15/video-offers-glimpse-of-syrias-war-through-the-eyes-of-iranian-military-advisers/?_r=0 Here's the news of Israelis fighting on the side of Takfiris from Israeli media. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/172034

Salam, I urge you to read this news: http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/09/22/open-season-on-christians/ See how the writer shows three different countries having major violence on Christians. Notice how powerful this message becomes. Now take us lousy Shias. Unlike our Christian brethren (who face this violence every once in a while), we SHIA Muslims face this violence in Iraq, Lebanon, Pakistan, Syria, Afghanistan, Bahrain, Malaysia daily. Literally daily.... Daily, every day, yes all 365 days of the year, there are more than 100 SHIA Muslims are killed, maimed, or injured at the hands of Wahabi-Saudi terrorists the world over. .... And you dont see one single concentrated news showing this. Not one single news gets this kind of message out. Not one. Why?????? Side note: Shia Muslims and Christians; living in Sunni Muslim dominated countries have a great chance to actively unite against the Sunni-Wahabi-Saudi alliance of beastly terrorists. This has already happened in Lebanon and is happening in Syria. We need to replicate the Shia Muslim and Christian alliance model in Pakistan, Egypt, Malaysia, Indonesia, Turkey and in other Sunni countries. Just hope that Christain Right wing don't use these events to break the Shia Muslims and Christians alliance.

Salam brothers, I hope you all doing good. This is my first topic. I was wondering if anyone could please tell me if there are any extremist branches in Shia sect like there are extremist branches in Sunni sect such as Wahabi, Salafi etc. Can you please list them, it would be great of you. Thanks