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Ratohnhaketon

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    Ratohnhaketon got a reaction from funklebits in Why Stop At Only 12 Imams? An Intellectual Query   
    You are more than welcome to provide some kind of refutation brother. As the Qur'an says, "bring your proof if you are truthful."
    Salam
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    Ratohnhaketon got a reaction from funklebits in Why Stop At Only 12 Imams? An Intellectual Query   
    Salam alaikum brother
    It's a pleasure to have the opportunity to interact with someone who demands logic and reason, just as the Qur'an demands from us.There are multiple functions of the Imams but among the most important are two.
    1) To serve as protectors of Islam, both in keeping the teachings pure (which has been successful most prominently due to the events with the third Imam at Karbala, Hussein ibn Ali, and the other Imams that were able to spread their teachings to such an extent that it would not leave the people such as Imams Jaf'ar ibn Muhammad and Muhammad ibn Ali al-Baqir) and in serving as mercies for those who have the chance to interact with them.
    2) To give people a chance to have leader, and thereby a government and a source of knowledge, that will serve to show the true potential of a human being, and demonstrate to us that we ourselves are capable of being mahsum (pure and sinless).
    The question as to why twelve Imams, and why an occultation is similar to the question, why was Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family) sent so late after Hazrat Isa (peace be upon him)? Could not Allah (Swt) simply send the last message earlier so as to help more people? The non-Muslims often ask this question, and it is a perfectly valid one to think over. Allah (Swt) has not sent the Qur'an, The Prophet (or any prophet), or the Imams as a necessity for ourselves to understand the principles of Islam. That is to say, if we had our divinely established intellect but no Qur'an we would be capable of fulfilling our purpose in life, but if we had no intellect and a Qur'an we would be unable to make use of it. And as Allah (Swt) says in the Qur'an: "They will also say, 'Had We listened or used our minds, we would not have become the dwellers of hell.'" (67:10) The Qur'an in of itself acknowledges that the faculty of our intellect is on par with the Qur'an, and the Qur'an's constant call to ponder on its verses demonstrates that the intellect is the means by which you distinguish truth from falsehood. So then, these three things (Qur'an, etc.) are mercies given to us to rid us of our excuses on Judgement Day and to assist on our journey towards the Almighty. The gap between Hazrat Isa and Muhammad is the same as the gap between Mahdi's occultation and his return from occultation. If Muhammad had come at any other time and at any other place in history he would have been killed, and you can see this by observing the perfection of the timing and location when he came between two dying empires and among a community ripe for something new. Likewise, if any Imam were to be appointed now they would be killed, and the occultation continues not due to the reservations or fear of the Mahdi but due to the fact that in general the people are not ready. Whether there be 12 or not is irrelevant to these previous factors being the case. Hadiths and things like the fact that Allah (Swt) has always instituted leaders (not just prophets) and not allowed the people to be the ones doing so (a good example is the story of Talut in Surah Baqarah) serve as reinforcement for what we see philosophically.
    Salam.
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    Ratohnhaketon got a reaction from Altaay in The Sufyani(La), The Yamani And The Khorasani   
    "And they have no knowledge of it; they do not follow anything but conjecture, and surely conjecture does not avail against the truth at all." - (Qur'an 53:28)
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    Ratohnhaketon got a reaction from Ali al-Abdullah in The Sufyani(La), The Yamani And The Khorasani   
    "And they have no knowledge of it; they do not follow anything but conjecture, and surely conjecture does not avail against the truth at all." - (Qur'an 53:28)
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    Ratohnhaketon got a reaction from Mohd ibrahim in Does A Convert/revert Really Need To Change Name?   
    I've kept my name, Andrew (warrior), and I've chosen a sort of nick name Abdul Haqq only as a reminder to why I'm Muslim in the first place. There is absolutely no need to change a person's name, your parents named you while keeping in mind who they want you to be and what you are as a human being. Unless they named you after a Pagan deity or something haram there is no need to change your name. In fact I would say it would be unwise to convert and change your name, imagine what that does to a person's parents.
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    Ratohnhaketon got a reaction from igat1969 in Overwhelming Support For Assad By Shias   
    It is the duty of all Muslims to take the uncompromising stance towards justice that the Prophet and Imam Ali, Bashar is a tyrant. Unfortunately the contenders to replace him are tyrants as well, so I oppose them all, I've yet to see a "lesser of two evils" approach work out in favor of the rights if the common man.
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    Ratohnhaketon reacted to Murtada98 in Question To Both Shias And Sunni Bros/sisters   
    Here in Michigan it's all mixed and everyone gets along, nobody avoids the opposite sect. There has never been an issue because someone is Sunni/Shia so Dearborn Heights is a Muslim utopia!
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    Ratohnhaketon reacted to Kamranistan in Question To Both Shias And Sunni Bros/sisters   
    (wasalam)
     
    I don't care enough about who I randomly see on the street tbh, I've got bigger things to worry about lol.
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    Ratohnhaketon reacted to mahdi servant.01 in Question To Both Shias And Sunni Bros/sisters   
    I see such occasions as a good opportunity to get close to the Sunni one. I do not mind discussing with them rather I like having fair conversation with them as I trust Shia reasoning and believe it may effect them providing that there is friendly atmosphere.
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    Ratohnhaketon reacted to Qa'im in Debate On Ghadeer - Invitation To Shia   
    Just a way to advertise their website - no need to feed the trolls.
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    Ratohnhaketon got a reaction from Abu Nur in Overwhelming Support For Assad By Shias   
    It is the duty of all Muslims to take the uncompromising stance towards justice that the Prophet and Imam Ali, Bashar is a tyrant. Unfortunately the contenders to replace him are tyrants as well, so I oppose them all, I've yet to see a "lesser of two evils" approach work out in favor of the rights if the common man.
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    Ratohnhaketon got a reaction from Qa'im in Overwhelming Support For Assad By Shias   
    It is the duty of all Muslims to take the uncompromising stance towards justice that the Prophet and Imam Ali, Bashar is a tyrant. Unfortunately the contenders to replace him are tyrants as well, so I oppose them all, I've yet to see a "lesser of two evils" approach work out in favor of the rights if the common man.
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    Ratohnhaketon got a reaction from David66 in Overwhelming Support For Assad By Shias   
    It is the duty of all Muslims to take the uncompromising stance towards justice that the Prophet and Imam Ali, Bashar is a tyrant. Unfortunately the contenders to replace him are tyrants as well, so I oppose them all, I've yet to see a "lesser of two evils" approach work out in favor of the rights if the common man.
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    Ratohnhaketon reacted to Lordofgemini in Neutral With Abu Bakr, Umar Etc..   
    So you can also use logic .
    So umar is supposed to be a prophet if prophethood had not ended.
    1. No prophets were polytheist during their entire life.
    2. Prophets were good tempered and loving. They would go and plan on killing anyone.
    3. Prophet never committed any heinous crimes. Like burying their daughters alive.
    ^ unlike umar.
    But then there is a narration which is present in both Sunni and shia Hadith.
    Prophet said. O ali you are to me like Haroon was to musa except there will be no prophet after me.
    If there was a prophet it would have been who, Ali(as).
    And he fits the criteria. Etc.
    As he was never a polytheist. Never sinned. Bravest of em all. Most knowledgeable etc.
    So just look at the hadith which are present both in sunni and shia hadith books if you want an open-minded approach. And consider rest as fabrications.
    (Wasalam)
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    Ratohnhaketon reacted to Saintly_Jinn23 in Is The Quran Created?   
    No, the man'a (essence) is found within the ism (name) and through the name the object is recognized but the ism is not found within the man'a. That is the name itself and the meaning of the name, what the name alludes to, cannot be the same.
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    Ratohnhaketon reacted to Repentant in Is The Quran Created?   
    Logically, it wouldn't make sense that it was not created because then it would be eternal like Allah  and Allah does not share characteristics such as Eternalness with others. 
     
    If the Qur'an is not created then it has no creator. Then that would mean Allah is not the creator of all. This would mean there are things which fall out of the power of Allah. This limits Allah. And we can all agree that is not possible. Thus the Qur'an must be created. 
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    Ratohnhaketon reacted to EthidiumIodide in The Old Atheists   
    You are going to hear people in this forum who quite loudly state that natural selection and mutation can't produce the diversity of life that we see today. Therefore, God created "kinds" of animals that can undergo micro-evolution but not macro-evolution. I happen to disagree and think the universe is odder than we imagine, or can imagine. 
     
    Just because these modern atheists feel "intellectually fulfilled" because evolution is, to them, an irrefutable fact doesn't mean that you can't believe in God and also accept evolution. People do it all the time. And in any case, evolution being true or untrue does not refute God's existence in Islam. 
    Sure, neo-darwinists say we came from one cell, but Islamic traditions of Adam and Eve can be slightly adjusted, such that the fossil apes or neanderthals, homo erectus etc can be "pre-Adam" and Homo Sapiens can represent when human bodies gained a soul (ie in Adam's time). Read some articles and watch some videos about Shia Islam and evolution, I know Hassanain Rajabali is a molecular biologist and knows quite a lot about evolution. He has made some good videos on the topic.
     
    So in summary, don't let current science prevent you from losing your religion, as Islam has a healthy relationship with Science. 
     
     
    I don't understand the question. Can you re-phrase it?
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    Ratohnhaketon got a reaction from Praetorius in I Am An Atheist. Who Wants A Debate?   
    Welcome to the forum,
    That's quite a large claim for a human being to make, the thread would likely proceed smoother if you brought up specific problems you have.
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    Ratohnhaketon reacted to mesbah in I Am An Atheist. Who Wants A Debate?   
    So what made you say I'm not a university student? the very thing that made you say there's no God. As I said earlier, you're in the habit of denying things you don't know anything about for sure.
    And you say there's no intelligent design in the universe, it is all a chaotic bunch of accidents. Me and you and this thread are all parts of this chaos.
    when it is possible for this universe to exist as a result of bunch of accidents, it is as well possible for these posts and letters to get combined as a result of bunch of many minor accidents.
    Therefore I don't think it is logical to waste my time responding to these accident-born chaotic posts.
    I didn't expect you to say anything else.
    I'm glad that now I can leave you in this chaos.
    That was fun!
    Happy accident!
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    Ratohnhaketon reacted to EthidiumIodide in I Am An Atheist. Who Wants A Debate?   
    He didn't give an expiration date. He stated that the teleological argument held sway 150 years ago, before Darwin refuted Design. 
     
    I will now quote Thomas Paine.
     
    “To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture.”
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    Ratohnhaketon got a reaction from Al-Hassan in I Am An Atheist. Who Wants A Debate?   
    A finite universe is one in which indefinite regression of finite causation would have to be occurring, but this is impossible due to each cause needed a cause for itself going on forever. This chain would need to find itself at a beginning in order for it to be a valid explanation, however there can be no true beginning in a finite model since that beginning will likewise need its own causation to occur. The universe itself is easily proven as finite due to the very nature of our own thoughts, it is not even necessary to employ empirical data to prove such a thing, but rather we are consciously aware of the separation of our own thoughts as independent, and in need of causation. Therefore, these models being insufficient explanations (as well as magic, since this would just be another finite source of causation), then there is the need of an Infinite Being that is the source of all things, relying upon nothing, outside all constraints that define a thing to be finite (time, and all other dimensions).
     
    Indeed, direct understanding of God is not possible for a finite being, but what I have spoken on does not rely on direct understanding or limitation upon God, rather it demonstrates an evident need for the existence of such a Being to sufficiently explain finite existence.
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    Ratohnhaketon reacted to mesbah in I Am An Atheist. Who Wants A Debate?   
    Goomba is not a pure atheist, he is an agnostic.
    A pure atheist is able to prove the "non-existence" of God; so far goomba has failed.
    All he could prove was his dizziness because of diversity of "millions of religions" which led to him being an agnostic atheist who is a little emotional.
    Goomba! Don't you worry about the validity of our arguments, bring forth your argument about non-existence of God if you claim he is not out there; but if you lost your grip on reality and can not differentiate between reality(God) and delusions(magic) that's fine but remember in such a case, you can't make any judgment on these issues, neither denial nor approval.
    Be an agnostic and lead a happy life!
    An agnostic can't engage in any kind of debate about God, since he can't prove nor deny anything about God.
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    Ratohnhaketon got a reaction from Abu Nur in Unity   
    Alhamdulilah, the importance of a mind that is oriented toward honest, kind debate and discussion is immeasurable. Surely, the most important thing to remember in this issue of Sunni-Shia is that these different ideas do not render us any less open brothers and sisters in Islam, enthusiasm should exist for this type of discussion for, just as your video said, the Muslims have bickered and complained while separating from each other based on race, tribe, school of thought, etc.
    Meanwhile, we see Muslims all over fleeing, dying, and starving. May Allah grant those minds oriented in such a fashion the most illuminating light that reveal all truths. :)
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    Ratohnhaketon reacted to Just the truth in Unity   
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m4cUkGV-4ok
    Come on brothers and sisters lets all unite forget all this debating....only the kafir benefit from us hating each other...
    I stretch out my hand in unity to my shia brethren who is willing to grab it from among the sunni and shia...
    Come on brothers the ummah is on fire and under artack...
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    Ratohnhaketon got a reaction from Mahdi_theguideforall in I Am An Atheist. Who Wants A Debate?   
    Magic, even as an invented concept, is not Infinite, it is lacking in a plethora of qualities that render it a limited thing, a finite thing. If you demand that we treat this word, 'magic' as something without limit, then indeed it is the same as saying God, but that wouldn't address the points I made.
     
    I never said time does not exist.
     
    Some men say it (the universe) is eternal, therefore this is an argument? Your abilities of debunking are not what I expected from a man who opened with a boast.
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