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    Goswami reacted to eThErEaL in Some tough questions from atheist   
    These are sacred myths which “resemble” what we ordinarily would call “history”.  They merely “resemble” history but are not speaking about a past for there is no real past or real future except in what the mind projects in this moment in the form of images/thoughts (“this moment” being the ONLY moment there is, which is eternally here and ever present).  It is obvious that these mythical stories are not in a historical past, and even if the majority of people take them for an actual past in time, the sacred myth is still effective in conveying its message to everyone albeit indirectly.  The Covenant of Alast, that is mentioned in the Qur'an, (where God asks mankind, Alastu Bi-rabbikum, and when mankind responds, balaa shahidna) is one of many examples of a sacred myth which did not occur in a past, but is happening “in real time”, “live streaming” (If you will).   it is therefore more true, more real, more factual than what we ordinarily would call “history”.
    Again, we are referred back to our previous response in which we said that the reality of the Prophet (S) (that reality which transcends individuality, which is beyond this or that person and who is not separate from our true nature) exemplifies the perfect response to God right here and right now : “Yes!, Bala”.  It is through the reality of the Prophet’s (S) “Yes” that all of us can say “yes”.  We can find our “yes” in the Prophet’s (S) “yes”.  
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Goswami got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Some tough questions from atheist   
    Ahsant Akhi! The example of Salman Farsi comes into mind. Salman is an epitome of a spiritual adept who transcended to his true nature I.e. attaining theosis by bathing himself in the love of Ahlay bait (عليه السلام). This is the reason Imam (عليه السلام) said "Salman is from us". The example Salman is worth contemplating upon for every person who has the will to transform spiritually 
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    Goswami reacted to Flying_Eagle in Some tough questions from atheist   
    1. The atheist's assumption is wrong, there are excellence given by some in relation to other. For example: - If a leader does the toughest job of leading the other creation, the ordinary creation is left without such heavy responsibility. Thus, to me this freedom from heavy responsibility and freedom to walk without any threat is something which a leader does not possesses.\
    2. If God has granted everyone equal status, then there would have been no need for us to be created and angels were sufficient. However, even then you would not have known full knowledge about God and not have known why should you thank him much more than anything in world. For example: - If you have not known that there could be lower creation like ant which dies in one day, would you have been that much thankful which right now you are feeling that you have 100 years of life if you eat healthy and do not be reckless and multiply it with days 100*365 = 365,500 days. 
    3. He saved you from dying for each living creation on daily basis. You do not know grief of Imam brother. Besides, if you are not Imam, it is evidence against you that you are not your own creator so acknowledge the greatness of the one and be thankful to him that he did not make you nothing.
    4. Prophets and Imams came into this world, face human-kinds bad behavior, cried on our sins and asked forgiveness for us, never bedaubed themselves with sins and never were tired for working for our welfare, some of them were sawed, some of them were choked, some of them were cut into pieces, some of them had to see their children being killed and some of them have to live in this world after witnessing the murder of their loved ones even though they did not desire to live long but they bore the burden of grief and living a life without their loved ones. This is earned and it is not by birth achieved. Do you have such strength brother ? If you have, you have achieved it only because you have examples before you of Imams and Prophets.
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    Goswami reacted to .InshAllah. in Some tough questions from atheist   
    Here is one answer inspired by a popular idea in contemporary political philosophy.  The idea is from Rawls who argued that inequalities in society are just only if they benefit the least well off.  For example its only okay to allow the existence of billionaires if their existence ultimately helps the poorest in society.  We could apply this to the case of Prophethood and say inequality in elevating certain individuals is just only if it benefits the least well off, and it does in fact benefit everyone as it provides everyone with an immaculate role model to follow.
    Eventhough I like this answer, I personally I believe there is more to it and some brothers have touched on possible answers above.
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    Goswami got a reaction from eThErEaL in Some tough questions from atheist   
    Ahsant Akhi! The example of Salman Farsi comes into mind. Salman is an epitome of a spiritual adept who transcended to his true nature I.e. attaining theosis by bathing himself in the love of Ahlay bait (عليه السلام). This is the reason Imam (عليه السلام) said "Salman is from us". The example Salman is worth contemplating upon for every person who has the will to transform spiritually 
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    Goswami reacted to eThErEaL in Some tough questions from atheist   
    It is not an instance of God’s Justice, but rather of God’s Mercy that the Prophet (S) was sent as nothing BUT a mercy for all of existence / creation.  The Prophet (S) that is being spoken of here is not something that excludes everything else, but rather a reality that is all-inclusive in its being.  The Prophet (S) that is spoken of here is not an individual or a person but a trans-personal or trans-historic reality.  It is not in the nature of Mercy to exclude but to encompass.  
     


    He actually has chosen everyone, but you and I (as individuals) don’t believe it to be true.  If you and I really know ourselves (by transcending our individuality) we would not see our reality as separate from the reality of the Prophet (S).  But it is our own limiting beliefs of ourselves, our limiting belief of our true nature that we condemn ourselves to whatever we ordinarily think of ourselves to be.   The Prophet’s (S) reality is not a person (he is a reality that transcends individuality).  
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    Goswami reacted to Anonymous-Male in Some tough questions from atheist   
    Imam Jaffar as Sadiq (عليه السلام) said: 
    There was a time when Allah, the Majestic, the Glorious, took the descendents of Adam from his back to establish a covenant with them to testify that He is their Lord and to believe in the prophethood of all the Prophets. The first among the Prophets whose prophethood Allah wanted them to accept through a covenant was Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allah, recipient of divine supreme covenant. Allah, the Majestic, the Glorious, then said to Adam, “Look (to find) what you can see.” ‘The Imam then said, “Adam then looked and saw his descendents appearing as small particles that filled the sky. Adam then said, ‘Lord, how huge in number my descendents are! For what purpose have You created them and for what reason did You make them to establish a covenant with You?’” Allah, the Majestic, the Glorious, replied, “So that they worship Me and do not consider anything else as My equal and so that they believe in My messengers and follow them (for guidance).”
    Adam then asked, “Lord, why is it that I see certain ones of the particles are greater, others have a great deal of lights, yet others among them have very little light and still others among them have no lights at all?” Allah, the Majestic, the Glorious, replied, “Thus, I have created them to place them to test in every condition that they will live.” Adam then asked, “My Lord, will You grant me permission to speak so I may express myself?” Allah, the Majestic the Glorious said, “Speak up; your spirit is from My spirit but your nature is different from My being.” Adam then asked, “Lord, had You created them all just like each other, by the same measure, the same nature, of likewise design, of the same color, of equal life span, of equal amount of means of living they would not act against each other. No jealousy, animosity and differences would exist among them over anything.” Allah, the Majestic, the Glorious, said, “O Adam, through My spirit you just spoke and due to the weakness of your nature you made an effort to give an opinion about that of which you have no knowledge. I Am the Creator of the world. I knowingly have created each one different from the others and through My Own way I will make My commands to take effect and they will continue existing through My plans and measures. There will be no changes in My creation. I have created the Jinn and human beings only to worship Me. I have created paradise for those who obey and worship Me and follow My messengers. I have no regrets in what I have done. I have created the fire for those who disbelieve, disobey Me and do not follow My messengers and I have no regrets in it. I have created you and your descendents not because I ever need you or your descendents in anyway or form. I have created you and created them to test you and test them to see which ones among you do good deeds in the worldly life before your deaths. For this reason I have created the world and the life thereafter, life, death, obedience, disobedience, paradise and the fire. This is how I willed in My measure and plan. Through My all-pervasive knowledge in them I have placed differences in their forms, bodies, colors, lifespan, means of living, obedience and disobedience. I, thus, have made certain ones of them to be unfortunate or very fortunate. Certain ones among them will have eyesight or be blind, others among them will be of short size or tall ones, beautiful or otherwise, knowledgeable or ignorant, wealthy or poor, obedient or disobedient, of good health or suffering from illness, of defective bodies or free of bodily defects. In this way those of perfect bodies will look at the defective ones and thank Me for the perfect body that I have given them and those with defective bodies will look at the perfect ones and will pray to Me and ask Me to grant them good health and exercise patience when and in the way I test them. Thus, I will grant them good rewards. The wealthy ones after looking to the poor ones will thank Me and appreciate My favors. When the poor ones look to the wealthy ones they pray to Me and ask Me favors. It is as such so that the believers will look to the unbelievers and thank Me for the guidance that I have granted them. For such reasons I have created them. I test them in ease and in hardships and in good health that I grant them and in the matters with which I test them, in the matters of what I grant them and in the matters that I refuse them. I am Allah, the powerful King. It is all up to Me to allow all of My measures and plans to take form or change them as I wish to the time that I wish. I may change the sequel of the timing of my measures and plans and allow, that which comes first to come last and vice versa. I am Allah, and I execute whatever I will. I am not questioned for whatever I do but I question My creatures about their deeds.”’”
    Al Kafi-The Book of Belief and Disbelief H 1449, CH 1c, h 2
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    Goswami reacted to ShiaChat Mod in Some tough questions from atheist   
    Creation is more likely to interact with one another if they have different abilities. That leads to growth and development (symbiosis).
    Prophethood or Imamate are not acquired positions by human effort, but divinely appointed ones. The fact that God appoints is sufficient for those who believe. That’s the basic tenant of faith.
     
    When God told Iblis to bow to Adam, the fact that God commanded this should have been enough. Full stop.
    The Prophets and Imams did not struggle? In fact, they struggled more in this world than anyone, because they had the responsibility of all of humanity in their hands!
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    Goswami got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Wearing black   
    This is not a valid argument. In present days, Kabah is in the custody of Yazeedis. They opting the black cloth for Kabaa in no manner validates Black dresses. Most probable, Imam Mehdi (عليه السلام) will change the color of Kaba's cloth. It is because our Aimma(عليه السلام) despised black dresses rather their favorite color was white. There are Ahadith in condemnation of Black dresses but not a single one that encourages black dresses 
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    Goswami got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Wearing black   
    Random women are no Hujjah on us. Only the words of Aimah (عليه السلام) are binding. There are Ahadith on condemnation of Black dresses but not a single one that encourages Black dresses. 
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    Goswami reacted to Vindemiatrix in Voting=Shirk? Please Clarify   
    They do not rule over you. Saying that is idiotic. 
    Which leadership? They just take responsibility for some legal matters.. I don't "follow" them and they have no control or legal power over me... They too are citizens... 
    Again we must use our brain here. If a law goes against Islam you disobey unless it puts your life in danger. If if doesn't argue with Islam where is the problem in obeying to avoid unnecessary punishment?? 
    The key word being government. It must mean the government of the Imam meaning that in the end there will be the one and only government or that the Imams government is the true government, but his government is not currently established (May Allah hasten the establishment). 
    See above (it's not Shirk)
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    Goswami reacted to Reza in Voting=Shirk? Please Clarify   
    Voting is one mechanism of giving influence (which is small). So are voicing opinions, using media, and donating/spending money. Or really just existing and exerting that existence. And like @Abu Hadi said, none of this should not be confused with bayyat. And why is voting being singled out as different from the other things? 
    Government in a nation-state is no different than electing board members for a mosque, non-profit, or school board. They are all organizations with heirarchies, needs for leadership, and have a set of specific (although important) responsibilities. And as far as I know, none of them claim any role equivalent to Imamate (which we know is beyond simple administrative rule, but is much deeper), nor are they in competition. Meaning there’s no conflict. 
    If people refuse to vote in a government election, then that could extend to not giving consent towards anything else as well, if that’s the principle. Your family votes on who should pick up dinner, and you say, “No, I trust only an infallible Imam to know what food is best, so I’m not voting”. 
    So I’m confused about the “I don’t vote because there’s no infallible Imam” argument, because this is propping up a false dichotomy. Also sounds more Jehovah Witness than Islamic. 
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    Goswami got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in "It is not permissible to kill the apostate at all" Sayyid Reza Hosseini Nassab [Marja' Taqlid]   
    Shaykh Tusi wrote: "With regard to the implementation of border penalties (Hudud), its implementation is not allowed except the God-appointed rulers of the time or that which the Imam to appointed to carry it out." [An -Nihayah, page 300 ]

    قال شيخ الطائفة الطوسي رضي الله عنه: فأما إقامة الحدود, فليس يجوز لأحد إقامتها إلا لسلطان الزمان المنصوب من قبل الله تعالى أو من نصبه الإمام لإقامتها
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    Goswami got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Voting=Shirk? Please Clarify   
    They don't argue in support of this by this logic. They vindicate it using verse of Shura in Qur'an 
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    Goswami got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Voting=Shirk? Please Clarify   
    No system can be purely Islamic in the absence of an Infallible Imam be it democracy , autocracy or monarchy . Let us suppose I live in India . So can I vote for Congress in order to stop BJP from coming into power because they are oppressive toward Muslim community provided the fact that the policies of Congress itself are also not Islamic ?
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    Goswami got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Voting=Shirk? Please Clarify   
    I agree completely with whatever you are saying but I am seeking the context and understanding of the Ahadith which say that fallibles are not allowed to form any government. Some Akhbari people say if we fallible people will form any government then we are no different than Abu bakar and Umar who were the first to deny infallible rulership and were the first to lay the foundation of fallible leadership through vote of masses. 
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    Goswami got a reaction from Mahdavist in Voting=Shirk? Please Clarify   
    They don't argue in support of this by this logic. They vindicate it using verse of Shura in Qur'an 
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    Goswami reacted to notme in Voting=Shirk? Please Clarify   
    There is a difference between rebelling against the ordained infallible Islamic government and attempting to maintain order in the absence of incorruptible leadership. 
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    Goswami got a reaction from notme in Voting=Shirk? Please Clarify   
    No system can be purely Islamic in the absence of an Infallible Imam be it democracy , autocracy or monarchy . Let us suppose I live in India . So can I vote for Congress in order to stop BJP from coming into power because they are oppressive toward Muslim community provided the fact that the policies of Congress itself are also not Islamic ?
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    Goswami got a reaction from AmirioTheMuzzy in "It is not permissible to kill the apostate at all" Sayyid Reza Hosseini Nassab [Marja' Taqlid]   
    Shaykh Tusi wrote: "With regard to the implementation of border penalties (Hudud), its implementation is not allowed except the God-appointed rulers of the time or that which the Imam to appointed to carry it out." [An -Nihayah, page 300 ]

    قال شيخ الطائفة الطوسي رضي الله عنه: فأما إقامة الحدود, فليس يجوز لأحد إقامتها إلا لسلطان الزمان المنصوب من قبل الله تعالى أو من نصبه الإمام لإقامتها
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    Goswami got a reaction from AmirioTheMuzzy in "It is not permissible to kill the apostate at all" Sayyid Reza Hosseini Nassab [Marja' Taqlid]   
    He is right in a sense. Only an infallible Imam can implement Hadd/punishment. Therefore, killing of apostates in present era is haram
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    Goswami reacted to notme in Voting=Shirk? Please Clarify   
    So then what? Anarchy? That is unsustainable. 
    If the people don't at least try to choose who will serve as government, tyrants and kings will take over. 
    We know it will be imperfect - actually very, very far from perfect - but we have to try. 
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    Goswami reacted to Abu Hadi in Voting=Shirk? Please Clarify   
    Salam. When we vote, we are not giving our Bayyat (allegience) to the government. Also, we do not consider them to be our leaders. If you vote with the Niyyat that this XYZ National Government is your leader, like the Imam(a.f.s) is your leaders, and you accept all their policies, then you shouldn't vote. Most people don't vote with this Niyyat. 
    The rational Muslim and follower of Ahl Al Bayt recognizes that they live in a country where they only way you can have a say in what happens in the country is if you vote. So they vote so that they can have a voice. That is why I encourage all the brothers and sisters who are able, and able to have the correct Niyyat when they vote, to vote. That way, as Muslims and as followers of Ahl Al Bayt((عليه السلام)) we can affect the policies of the country where we live. If you don't vote, you have no voice and no say. That is the reality. So we shouid vote for that reason.
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    Goswami got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Voting=Shirk? Please Clarify   
    I have come across a debate between some Shias recently. Most of them were  usooli. However, there were some who belonged to Akhbari school of thought. Akhbari community claimed that voting in a democratic system is tantamount to shirk. Usooli community didn't concur with this narrative. Nevertheless, usooli community failed to defend their stance in my opinion. I believe they could have adduced better arguments but they couldn't and many arguments of the Akhbari community were left unanswered. Equating voting to shirk is something very very odd to me. I believe it is a very regressive approach. No rational person will agree with this stance in my opinion. To this reason, I am putting forward the main arguments of Akhbari community that were left unanswered. I hope knowledgeable brothers and sisters will clarify this issue in detail. Following are the main points of their arguments.
    1- Voting in a democratic country and allowing a person to rule over you is shirk. It is because according to Shia school of thought only God has the right to choose a leader and a leader is Divinely appointed. People have no right to choose a leader for them. Role of an Imam and a President is same I.e. to rule over people. Only the titles are different. How it is different from the incident of saqifah where people denied rulership of a Divinely Appointed Imam and selected a fallible leader for themselves by themselves.
    2- l-Fudail reported that Imam As-Sadiq (a.) said, "He who claims leadership even though he is not one of its owners is an infidel." [Al-Kafi of Al-Kulaini, Volume 1 Page 372 Hadith 2]
    3-Sawrah Ibn Kulaib reported that he asked Imam Al-Baqir (a.) about the verse: "And on the Day of Resurrection you see the faces of those who lied against God turning black. Is there not in hell a abode for the arrogant?" (39:60) He said: "He who says, "I am an Imam". And he is not an Imam." I said: "Even if he is a descendant of Ali (a.)". He said: "Even if he is a descendant of Ali (a.)". I said: "Even if he is a son of Ali Ibn Abi Talib (a.)". He said: "Even if he is." [Al-Kafi of Al-Kulaini, volume 1 page 372 Hadith 1]
    4- In Wasail ul Shia there are traditions which say that Government is only for a Divinely Appointed Imam. Therefore, by voting you and electing a fallible leadership you are going against the teaching of Imams.
    5- A Shia should only vote if government of the area uses oppression and forces people to vote otherwise it is shirk.
    6- No Hadith or Verse of Qur'an says that we are obligated to obey the Laws of Land. 
     
    @Qa'im @SoRoUsH @Ibn al-Hussain

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    Goswami got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in "It is not permissible to kill the apostate at all" Sayyid Reza Hosseini Nassab [Marja' Taqlid]   
    He is right in a sense. Only an infallible Imam can implement Hadd/punishment. Therefore, killing of apostates in present era is haram
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