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  1. Salam to all honorable members of the forum. I have seen many narrations and sermon of Nahjul balagha in condemnation of women. Obviously those narrations don't mean women in general are to be condemned. Those narrations condemn women like Aisha. Nevertheless, please post reports of imams especially imam ali praising women because I have been searching a lot but failed to find any narration of imam Ali praising women. Therefore, kindly post such narrations here. Thank you. May Allah give you Ajar. @Qa'im @Cake
  2. Avicenna states: "The knower seeks the First Truth not for anything other than itself, and prefers nothing other than knowledge and worship of it alone.This is because the First Truth merits worship and because worship is a noble relation to it and not because of desire or fear. If desire or fear were present, the desired object or the feared object would be the motive, and the object of the search.The Truth then would not be the end, but a means to something other than it, this something being the end and the object of the search, to the exclusion of the Truth"[Isharat wal tanbihat,namat#9,bab#5] Explanation: Avicenna identifies three distinct kinds of worship and consequently three distinct kinds of worshipers; first there are those who worship God because of the desire for the attainment of the eternal pleasures of paradise, where they use worship as a means to an end, that end being Paradise itself; the next category of worshipers consists of those who worship the divine out of fear for the eternal hell-fire. Here also the divine is not sought as an end but only as a means to something else, that something being the avoidance of hell; and the last group consists of those who worship or adore the Necessary Being not as a means to an end but because they deem him worthy of admiration, adoration and worship; they seek the Face of the Divine because of what the Divine is Itself and not due to some object other than the divine. This Avicennan classification is absolutely identical to the exposition on the degrees of worshipers laid down by Imam Ali (عليه السلام).
  3. This series of articles will highlight and elaborate the sundry points of concurrence shared by Dharmic wisdom and Islamic wisdom. In Qur’an we read: “For every nation/community there has been a guide” {Qur’an 13:7} “And verily, We have sent among every community a messenger” {Qur’an 16:36} The two verses substantiate that the Primordial Divine Guidance has been present in each and every epoch. When metaphysical elements found in the corpus of Hinduism are objectively analyzed then it is not abstruse for any objective reader to decipher that Dharmic wisdom is the derivative of the very same Primordial Divine Guidance that has been manifested in every epoch. The Spiritual Adept/ The True Worshiper Krishna in Gita has classified different forms of worshipers according to the intention with which they submit before God. "O best among the Bhāratas [Arjuna], four kinds of pious men render devotional service unto Me—the distressed, the desirer of wealth, the inquisitive, and he who is searching for knowledge of the Absolute." ~ Bhagvad-Gita This verse divulges the following types of worshipers: 1- “The Distressed” these are the people who have been subjected to excruciating experiences in their life and to alleviate the pains of their agonies they take shelter in the worship of the Absolute. 2- “The Desirer of wealth” these are the people who worship the Absolute out of their greed for materialistic desires. This is the reason it is very common to see a plethora of religious lecturers explaining the nature of heaven in a literal and materialistic fashion. These speakers motivate their audience to submit before the Absolute for the sole purpose of attaining Jannah/heaven. Such people only submit before the Absolute out of their desire to gain Jannah or pleasures. 3- “The inquisitive” these people take shelter of the Absolute out of their curiosity to know. They have heard about others finding beatitude in the spiritual realm and this makes them curious to know what it is all about. So, to satisfy their curiosity, they approach the Lord. 4- “who is searching for the knowledge of the Absolute” these are the people who worship the Absolute only because they want to increase their proximity to the Absolute. Their submission before the Absolute is unconditional. They only desire the Absolute and nothing else. After identifying various categories of worshipers under the light of the verse of Gita, let us now understand who is the Spiritual Adept or a True worshiper among various forms of worshipers in the light of the saying of Imam Ali (عليه السلام). Imam Ali (عليه السلام) states : “O Allah! I do not worship thee for fear of punishment or in hope of reward; rather, I know thee worthy of worship so I worship thee”[Bihar ul Anwar,vol#41,p.14] Explanation: The relation between the Absolute and the Spiritual Adept is similar to the relation between the Beloved(God) and the lover(Spiritual Adept). The lover loves his Beloved unconditionally. There is nothing that can extinguish the fire of his love for his Beloved. The only thing that fills the heart of a lover with sheer ecstasy is the company of his Beloved. The lover desires nothing but his Beloved. His love for his Beloved has no conditions and he continues to render his services to his Beloved independent of any desire. The saying of Imam Ali (عليه السلام) makes palpably clear that among various forms of worshipers pointed out by Krishna in Gita the True worshiper or the Spiritual Adept is who seeks nothing but only Divine.
  4. we do know. After giving it much thought, I have concluded there is another way we can tackle this question. Every soul was tested first in Alam Al-Dhar. Our Hadith say our Prophet was the first one to acknowledge and recognize God in Alam Al-Dhar. Therefore, we can deduce that the reason why he was bestowed with the rank of Imamah and Prophethood is the very fact that he (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) was the first one to recognize his Lord. Muhammad Bin Yahya, from Muhammad Bin Al Husayn, from Ali Bin Ismail, from Muhammad Bin Ismail, from Sa’dan Bin Muslim, from Salih Bin Sahl, (It has been narrated) from Abu Abdullah(عليه السلام) having said: ‘Rasool-Allah(صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) was asked, ‘By which thing do you precede the children of Adam?’ He(صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) said: ‘I was the first one to acknowledge my Lord. Allah took the Covenant of the Prophets [7:172] and made them testify against themselves: Am I not your Lord? They said: Yes! So I was the first one to answer’. what do you think of this approach?
  5. Ahsant Akhi! The example of Salman Farsi comes into mind. Salman is an epitome of a spiritual adept who transcended to his true nature I.e. attaining theosis by bathing himself in the love of Ahlay bait (عليه السلام). This is the reason Imam (عليه السلام) said "Salman is from us". The example Salman is worth contemplating upon for every person who has the will to transform spiritually
  6. Let me elaborate his stance 1- The wisdom behind the immaculate nature of prophethood and imamate is not under question. The question is why certain people were conferred upon the honor of being an Imam and Prophet. why there was no test carried out to assess which soul is eligible for being a Prophet or an Imam? 2- why God bestows greatness upon some people without their test and bestows greatness upon other people after testing them (spritual greatness such as infallibility)? 3- Let us contemplate on a hypothetical example, there are two persons , one is born with a silver spoon in his mouth while other person is born into a poor family but by working very hard he becomes a wealthy person. who is a better role model between these two individuals? One who was simply born with a silver spoon in his mouth or the person who didn't succumb before adverse circumstances and changed his state by perseverance and sturdy willpower. who is a better person to emulate in this context? Of course it is the latter person. Likewise the question is , why individuals who defeats their evil intentions are not greater than Imams or Prophets because they struggled to defeat the evil intentions because they were not bestowed with infallibility ?
  7. This is what I am trying to decipher I.e. the wisdom behind this. Your point is very logical and it clicks to the mind. Agreed, this point also sounds rational but there is one thing point which has not been addressed yet why an individual in present times cannot become an Imam or Prophet by his spiritual struggle ?
  8. This answer creates more problems then it actually solves. God is acquainted with the actions of each and every soul since the beginning then why was it necessary to create the spatio-temporal material world and test people? why He didn't throw them into hell and heaven without taking their test or creating this material world? Atheist will use the same logic and will argue that it defeats the purpose of the creation of this universe. weren't they infallible since their birth? is not a Prophet or Imam a Divine Guide since his birth? why deprive other person from this rank?
  9. Aslamoalaykum to all the venerable brothers and sisters. It has been quite a time since I have benefited from the wisdom of this forum. Venerable fellows, today an atheist adduced some questions and I was not able to articulate my answers to those questions effectively. Therefore, if any brother or sister can provide a bit comprehensive answer to his question then I shall be very grateful. " How God is not an unjust? As He has appointed and elevated certain individuals over rest of the creations according to His own will. why He did not test those individuals prior to making them Imams and Prophets? If God was Just then He must have taken the test of everyone before giving any person the status of Imam and Prophet but He didn't. How does that not refute His justness? why He did not make me an Imam what was my fault? To me it is an act of absolute injustice and why should we call any Prophet or Imam great because God made him intrinsically great unlike us? Prophet or Imam didn't achieve greatness rather they were born into it then how can they be called as great people? ." How to answer this question ? Thanking you in advance @Qa'im @SoRoUsH @Intellectual Resistance @Sumerian
  10. This is not a valid argument. In present days, Kabah is in the custody of Yazeedis. They opting the black cloth for Kabaa in no manner validates Black dresses. Most probable, Imam Mehdi (عليه السلام) will change the color of Kaba's cloth. It is because our Aimma(عليه السلام) despised black dresses rather their favorite color was white. There are Ahadith in condemnation of Black dresses but not a single one that encourages black dresses
  11. Random women are no Hujjah on us. Only the words of Aimah (عليه السلام) are binding. There are Ahadith on condemnation of Black dresses but not a single one that encourages Black dresses.
  12. Is the following Hadith talking about electing a Divine leader or any leader? @Cake @Ibn Al-Ja'abi Imam Mahdi ((عليه السلام).), when Sa’d b. ‘Abdillah al-Qummi asked him the reason why people cannot elect an Imam for themselves, replied, ‘Would he be a righteous man or a corrupt man?’ I said, ‘Righteous.’ He said, ‘Is it possible that the selected individual be actually corrupt, for no one really knows what passes through another’s mind, in terms of their righteousness or corruption?’ I said, ‘Yes’. He said, ‘That is the reason why.’[Nur al-Thaqalayn, v. 2, p. 76, no. 283]
  13. Brother what is your take on the OP ?
  14. They don't argue in support of this by this logic. They vindicate it using verse of Shura in Qur'an
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