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In the Name of God بسم الله

Muhammad Ibrahim

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  1. بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

    السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركته

    I sincerely hope you brothers do not confuse the Qur`aan into an encyclopaedia or into a science text book. It came as a book of moral guidance and godly knowledge, not as a science textbook.

    و السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركته

    Uhh, what? How do you even come to that conclusion from the OP?

  2. Ok kids you keep going, ive wasted enough time as it is :D

    Knock yourselves out, but remember to finish your homework.

    Little gang of teen bullies lol, you wont stop women posting here.

    Peace out.

    Really? I waited 10 minutes for you to come up with a response and the best you could think of was "I'm leaving"?..... And AFTER everyone already said they were leaving first. That was just sad. Please try again.

  3. 1. Do your Sunni brothers/sisters believe in the hadith of the twelve Imams?

    Yes, the hadith is authentic according to both Shia and Sunni sources.

    2. How is the hadith of the twelve Imams interpreted? Do you regard that Islam will only have Twelve Caliphs until the Day of Judgment or not?

    The Prophet said:

    "The matter (life) will not end, until it is passed by twelve Caliphs." He then whispered a sentence. I asked my father what the Prophet said. He said, the Prophet added: "All of them will be from Quraish."

    [sahih Muslim, Arabic version, Kitab al-Imaara, 1980 Edition Pub. in Saudi Arabia, v3, p1452, Tradition #5]

    Is this hadith understood that the Prophet will only have Twelve Caliphs?

    Yes, as the the world will be destroyed after the 12th one.

    "This religion shall always be upright till there are twelve from Quraish. When they are no more, the earth will be destroyed (swallowed) with all its inhabitants"

    Kanz al-Ummaal, vol 12, pg 34, Tr. No. 3386

    - Kash al-Astaar, part 1, pg 99 narrating from al-Ebaanah

    - E'laam al-Waraa pg 384

    - Muqtazab al-Asar, pg 3-4

    - Manaaqeb of ibn Shar Aashob, vol 1, pg 290

    - Behaar al-Anwaar vol 36, pg 267, Chap 41, Tr. No. 87

    - Al-Insaaf, pg 361

    3. The Prophet (S) received the revelation about the number of his Caliphs. According to Sunni Islam, is it possible that he also received the names of these Caliphs? if not, why did he only receive information from Allah (swt) about their number, but not who they were?

    A Jewish man named Na'thal, went to the Prophet and among the questions he asked who would succeed him. The Prophet said, specifying them, "After me, 'Ali ibn Abi Talib and then my two sons, Hasan and Husayn and after Husayn, nine Imams will follow from his children." "The Jewish man said, 'Name them.' "The Prophet said, "When Husayn leaves this world, his son, 'Ali, and after him, his child Muhammad and after Muhammad, his son Ja'far and after Ja'far, his son Musa and after Musa, his son 'Ali and after 'Ali, Muhammad. After Muhammad, his child, 'Ali and after 'Ali, Hasan and after Hasan, his child Muhammad al-Mahdi. These are the twelve Imams."

    Yanabi' al-Muwadat, p. 431

    Plus the Prophet (pbuh) said several times that Ali (as) is his successor several times. In fact, it was one of the first things he did as a Prophet.

    4. What is the significance of these Caliphs?

    They maintained true Islam and protected it from all deviations that would lead people astray.

    "Surely this religion will always overcome its opponents and no enemy or deserter can ever harm it while there are twelve caliphs from my nation in it. All of them will be from Quraish"

    Musnad-e-Ahmad, vol 5, pg 87

  4. There is no evidence in The Qur'an that the Imamate system is valid. It all comes from the imagination of the Shia.

    Durrrrrrrrrrr, it clearly says only Allah can choose our leaders several times, says Ali (as) is the Wali in 5:55, says that blood relatives are more entitled to inherit from the Prophet (pbuh) than Sahabah, says that authority can be passed down through lineage, says that Allah has appointed Imams to guide by his command, etc. But maybe you've never actually read the Quran or just went blind at those parts.

    If as you say, Hadith of thaqalain refers to Imamate, then how come the first thaqal (Qur'an) never mentions the 2nd thaqal (12 imams)?

    He you go again with your flawed logic. 1) The Quran does say Ali (as) is the Wali in 5:55, 2) Why would this requirement of yours have to exist? Because you want it to?

    The aaya of Surat Al-Ahzab refers to the wives of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) so they are also included in the 2nd thaqal it seems.

    Except that Ayah uses the words Ankum (from you) and Yutahhirakum (to purify you), which are both in the masculine plural form, which would mean it's not walking about his (pbuh) wives. Wives are not part of Ahl al-Bayt:

    Hussain Ibn Sabrah asked Zaid Ibn Arqam, "Who are the members of His household? Aren't His wives part of the members of his family?" Thereupon Zaid said, "His wives are members of his family [in a general sense], but (Islamically), the members of his family are those for whom acceptance of zakat is forbidden." Hussain asked, "Who are they?". Upon which Zaid said, "Ali and the offspring of Ali, Aqil and the offspring of Aqil, the offspring of Jaffer, and the offspring of Abbas." Hussain said "These are those for whom the acceptance of zakat is forbidden?" Zaid replied, "Yes."

    -Sahih Muslim #31.5920-2.

    Hussain Then asked: "Aren't the wives (Of the Prophet) included amongst the members of the household?" He said, "No, by Allah, a woman lives with a man [as his wife] for a certain period; he then divorces her, and she goes back to her parents and her people. The members of his household include his own self, and his kith, and kin, for whom the acceptance of zakat is prohibited."

    -Sahih Muslim #31.5923

    The aya about wiping the feet follows grammatical rules which therefore can also be interpreted as washing the feet.

    It cleary says to wipe a part of the foot, not wash the whole foot. Simply doing to whole foot contradicts the Ayah.

    The hidden Imam concept is pure mythology.

    1) You just made a baseless statement with no backing whatsoever. Can you actually prove it or are baseless statements all you're capable of?

    2) Occultation is mythology? Too bad it's in the Quran when referring to the Prophet Isa (as):

    Surah An-Nisa, Ayah 157-158:

    {157} "and for their saying, ‘We killed the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, the apostle of Allah’ —though they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but so it was made to appear to them. Indeed those who differ concerning him are surely in doubt about him: they do not have any knowledge of that beyond following conjectures, and certainly they did not kill him."

    {158} "Rather Allah raised him up toward Himself, and Allah is all-mighty, all-wise."

    I'm sorry but it is unacceptable to invent things and expect people to follow them blindly.

    Obviously you don't think so since you have no problem following an invented caliphate and following them blindly despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. The irony and hypocrisy of Sunnis is unmatched by any other group in the world.

  5. Its not only Sunnis who hate Bashar - I am a Shia and hate Bashar too, as well as every dictator in the world out there (and let us be honest, Bashar is a leftist, secularist dictator). However, the FSA is arguable worse and will turn Syria into a civil war zone.

    How is he a dictator when he has given protesters (and I mean real protesters, not FSA terrorists) everything the've demanded of him? The real protests ended soon after they started because he agreed to all their demands right away.

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